S2E22 Epstein, Lutnick, Bitcoin, Tether, and a New Tool for Fighting Technocracy

Whose fingerprint is on the cold? Whose breath inside the mold? A billion dollar prayer answered in a petri dish. Tell me, is that heaven? Or just a hostage with a halo? We'll be right back.

We write them neat to fit their ends Ghost in the genome, code on the throne Rule tomorrow when the seeds not our own Pray in the data, kneel to the screen they serve swapping our doubt for dopamine selling the sky on reserve anti-rivalrous sermons match the profit in the plot while drawing

Lost in an NFT traded for service labs. Upload the conscience. Auction the flesh. Legislate death through a silicone mesh. Run that test. Bet your breath. Who's your guy when the cold out? Lift your chest up. If the future's a marketplace and the souls aren't clearance, remember,

a bargain with a ghost still costs you your breath.

I woke up to silence But the war had begun They froze my account Said I'd done something wrong Wasn't no crime Just living free Now the system Got a chain on me They took my savings My future, my land.

With a single code line and a government hand. Said it was safety. Said it was green. But all I see is tyranny behind the screen. This ain't innovation. It's a trap in disguise. Be watched all your life. Genius ain't freedom. Creality ain't clear. It's a cage they built while we cheered.

I believed in the promise. But the same old swamp just changed its brand He penned the front door, opened the back Signed the bills that launched a fire This ain't innovation It's a

trap in disguise You'll own nothing Be watched all your life Genes ain't freedom It's a case they build while we chill Your gold, your guns, your voice, your name They'll digitize it all then shift the blame

Palantirizing AI chains Freedom dying slow in patriotic flames This ain't about safety It's control in disguise With your ID, your face, your tears, your time They wrapped it in stars, sold it with pride But freedom's bleeding out From the inside DEFCON won

And they call it peace But I still got breath I still believe We can break the code, escape the scheme Turn this nightmare back into a dream I heard a story about a ledger in the Well,

dark Names in the pages leaving their mark Back in twenty ten on an island breeze. Brock Pierce talking about currencies. Epstein sitting there taking notes. Tether dreams in a banker's coat. Next door lived a man named Ludnick. Wall Street sharp and his deals came quick. Sister raised a flag on the open sea. Tara Marr sailed where the eye can't see. Names in the ledger, gold in the hand.

Money like water running over the sand. If you follow that trail, son, here's what you'll find. The chains ain't on your feet, they're tied round your mind. Twenty-one dream, Peter Thiel shook hands, Valor ventures in some quiet lands, Reid Hoffman opening the back room door, Carbine watching from the ceiling floor, MIT built a code in the dead of night, CBDC dreams in a lab's cold light, Segwit split that Bitcoin train,

store of value was the new refrain. Names in the ledger, gold in the hand. Money like water running over the sand. If you follow that trail, son, here's what you'll find. The chains ain't on your feet, they're tied round your mind. Project Hamilton, running faster than breath. One point seven million beats in the shadow of death.

They called it progress, but I call it control. It's the same old story in a brand new role. If you follow that trail, son, here's what you'll find. The chains ain't on your feet, they're tied round your mind.

Don't just watch the money, watch the hands that hold the pen. They said it's for safety. They said it's for peace. But they put the cage up first. Then they hid the keys. We won't let them fade away

We will shout their names today We'll be right back.

Free them now! Free them now! Free them now! Free them now! Free them now! Free them now!

In a quiet world, technocracies rise Shadows hide the truth from our eyes Digital chains, freedoms confined Silent whispers fill our minds Wake up from this technocratic dream. Freedom calls. Be on screen. Rise above control.

Reclaim our lives. Awaken now. Open your eyes.

You're not alone, embrace the light. Together we can win this fight. Break the chains, reclaim your dreams. Awaken from technocracy schemes. Beyond the screen Rise above

control Reclaim our lives Awaken now Open your eyes Awaken now Open your eyes When democracy fades, freedom will rise Whose fingerprint is on the cold? Whose breath inside the mold?

A billion dollar prayer answered in a petri dish. Tell me, is that heaven? Or just a hostage with a halo? Blueprints signed by ghosts in suits, white coats, offshore loot. Epstein Island, Santa Fe, secret pay, recruit the youth. Game encoded mantra, chant of conscious evolution. Metamask for technocrats who harvest data like communion. Noah's spear surveillance, tell our dreams in server racks. Pearson Teal Bank wrote a stack, AI gods on proxy tracks. Code of spirit, keep the shell,

rewrite the meat to fit their ends Ghost in the genome, code on the throne Who will tomorrow when the seeds not our own? Pray in the data, kneel to the screen, it's free they serve, swapping our doubt for dopamine, selling the sky on reserve, anti-rivalrous, sermons mask the profit in the plot, while drones carve halos in the air for those they chose to swap,

bot has pipelines, prime belief, influencers are hidden labs. Paradise lost in an NFT traded for service labs. Upload the conscience. Auction the flesh. Legislate death through a silicone mesh. Run that test. Bet your breath. Who's your God when the cold out? Lift your chest up.

marketplace and the souls If the future's a aren't clearance, remember, a bargain with a ghost still costs you your breath.

I woke up to silence But the war had begun They froze my account Said I'd done something wrong Wasn't no crime Just living free Now the system Got a chain on me They took my savings My future,

my land With a single code line and a government hand Said it was safety Said it was green But all I see is tyranny behind a screen to say an innovation It's a trap in disguise Watched all your lies Genius ain't freedom Reality ain't clear It's a cage they

built While we cheered I believed in the But the same old swamp just changed its brand He banned the front door, opened the back Signed the bills that launched a fire

This ain't innovation It's a trap in disguise You'll own nothing Be watched all your life Genes ain't freedom It's a case they build while we chill Your gold, your guns, your voice,

your name They'll digitize it all then shift the blame Palantirizing AI chains Freedom dying slow in patriotic flames This ain't about safety It's control in disguise With your ID, your face, your tears, your time They wrapped it in stars, sold it with pride But freedom's bleeding out

From the inside DEFCON won And they call it peace But I still got breath I still believe We can break the code, escape the scheme Turn this nightmare back into a dream Welcome back to The Aaron Day Show. This is season two, episode twenty-two. Sorry about the delay.

I actually sent around the wrong link, so had to go around and fix that. People were clicking on the wrong thing. So I hope you had an opportunity to share this. If you would, please, I wouldn't mind. My traffic has been down pretty significantly since Musk changed the algorithm, which is not surprising you may remember a few weeks ago he said they were going to change the algorithm to allow smaller accounts the opportunity to get more reach which they did and I actually had some posts thousands I mean in one that got hundreds of case I got a had a post that got a million and a half views and then they decided to switch the algorithm back again and basically they weighted it

so that if you have a lot of blocked a lot of people have blocked you or muted you that actually significantly impacts your reach so I've had this account since. And I've had it through the tea party and a variety of political things. And so I'm blocked by most of the Bitcoin maxis and a lot of political accounts. And so I'm sure that puts an absolute ceiling on how much reach I can get. So if you wouldn't mind sharing, that would be very helpful. This is going to be a very interesting episode today. I have been working on. I've already written an Well, I've been tracking. article about Epstein and his involvement tangentially in Bitcoin. I've been talking quite a And of course,

bit about Tether and stable coins because of the Genius Act. And the more research that I do, the more almost unbelievable the situation becomes. And so tonight, we're going to go into a little bit more detail on this. But it's not just... What I'm going to lay out today is actually somewhat speculative. And I'm going to discuss the more important aspect of this, which is... Technocracy is a very difficult subject because there are a lot of people involved. It is an ever-changing network of people that are pushing for this reorganization of society where elites pick scientists and engineers.

to make decisions for everyone from a top-down basis and and so the players change although some of them have remained consistent for for decades and it is possible to track them but we haven't had the tools for this so I'm going to not only describe some of the things going on with bitcoin and tether but I'm going to also just show you a prototype that I've built for a website to actually help crowdsource research and share information on these technocracy topics. So I encourage you to go back and watch last week's podcast with Courtney Turner, which was a phenomenal interview. She has been covering technocracy for years and

has some of the most in-depth research on this topic. And When I was preparing for the show last week, you know, I was basically binge watching her sub stack and binge watching her YouTube videos. And I realized that, you know, we really do have a problem in trying to not only communicate what's going on with technocracy, but also to understand it, which is that there's so much information involved. And so that's actually part of what motivated motivated me to build this site which I'll show a little bit later on so please uh please take a look at that episode and then the previous episode with mike adams which was a great interview on ai technocracy and decentralized freedom

just as an update here. Well, there really isn't an update. The war on crypto remains on and there haven't been any positive developments at all in quite some time. So Roger is still in Spain, still awaiting extradition still facing a hundred and nine years and his hearing is now on october the twentieth in la so if you haven't already please visit freerogernow.org sign the open letter share that link share it with people and direct messages send it to them personally that's the best way to get this done he's nearing a hundred thousand signatures the signatures matter the signatures show that there is political support and a broad base of people are very concerned about

this issue and you know frankly there should be a million people that have signed this already but you know part of it is it's actually difficult to get information out about the case ian freeman as I mentioned last week lost his appeal so he remains in federal prison for eight years his next stop is the supreme court he really needs some help as well with the petition he started the process a bit later so please visit free ian now dot org and help him out and then roman storm uh was just found guilty of you know one of his charges last week uh conspiracy to commit money laundering and so uh he's awaiting sentencing I think he's probably looking at five years or something like

that which is ridiculous and again you know with roman and ian they they don't get you on the underlying charge they get you on this broad nebulous conspiracy charge So please visit freeromanstorm.com. And if you can donate to his legal fees, I know I saw in my feed yesterday or today that he did get a sizable new donation. he's run up something like five But I mean, million dollars in legal fees. So he needs our help. Just some housekeeping. A bunch of events are coming up. I mean, once the summer ends, it's probably going to be nonstop. So if you want me to attend or speak at an event, I would reach out to me now. I was trying to take the summer off from travel, which...

It was not successful entirely, but it was a little bit. But if you're interested in having me speak at an event, please reach out to me now because the schedule is already getting quite full. And I think last year we were traveling, I don't know, between half and two-thirds of the time. So, I mean, if I did all of the same events that I did last year and then added any new events, I'd be on the road forever. So I'm going to have to all the time. figure out how we're going to allocate time in that regard. So the next events are the Polyface Retreat, which is at Joel Salatin's farm. This is September the twelfth through the thirteenth. That event is sold out. The Peak Prosperity Annual Summit,

which actually goes from the twelfth through the fourteenth. I'm going to be speaking on the fourteenth. So I'm going to leave Polyface and then we'll be there for the last day of that event. It's a shame that these events are overlapping because I really love Brownstone events and I really also tremendously enjoy this Peak Prosperity event with Chris Martinson. So, you know, hopefully next year the schedules will work so they're not overlapping. And then October the thirty-first through November the first is the big annual gala for the Brownstone Institute. This year it's going to be in Salt Lake City, so I will be there And I will be speaking as well. And so these are always

terrific events and great speakers. I've never been to Salt Lake City, forward to checking this one out. so I'm really looking I believe there are still some tickets left for that, but I suspect these Brownstone events sell out fairly quickly. So if you're interested, I would recommend you go to brownstone.org and get your tickets ASAP. So once again, if you're new listening to this podcast, I want to frame what all of this is about. All of the content and everything that I'm discussing is around this very simple fact that the war that we're in is technocracy versus freedom. And literally, free will is at stake. Those really are the stakes. So on the one hand, we have a group of people

who are looking to push towards a single digital currency with an AI surveillance system where scientists and engineers are literally making decisions for us tied up into a social credit system that's completely tracked. This is not a theory or this is not a conspiracy theory. This is a well-documented movement that started in the nineteen thirties and only now has the technology to be able to move forward. But since about the early nineteen seventies, they've been setting the groundwork and making the necessary changes from a legal perspective, as well as influencing government at top levels through commerce departments and trade agreements to set something like this up.

And so now we're in the final stages of this. And so I've been arguing... that the battleground for this is actually tokenization, which a lot of people don't know what tokenization is. And you can certainly go back and read any of my articles or any of the other podcasts, but it's basically the technocrats want to create digital tokens that represent all of our assets. Money being one example. So that's what a stable coin is or a CBDC is. It's a programmable, trackable, censorable form of digital money that's been tokenized. But they want to do this with everything, not just money. All of our investments, stocks, bonds, gold, for one case, property, cars, every asset they want to tokenize,

not just money itself. So this is and the Genius Act and the Clarity Act go a long way towards making capturing well over half of the total assets on the planet, if you look at what is going to be tokenized there. So this isn't a theory. This is something that they're actively working on and actively implementing. The solution to that, I believe, is tokenization in which We have self-custody of the tokens and can trade the tokens privately. This enables us to engage in trade. We can sell our own financial instruments, stocks. We can have our own money free from government interference, printing, censorship, and so forth. And so to me, this is why this tokenization

issue matters. And it actually ties into even the conversation that we're going to have tonight. So I have been going through this process over the summer I'm trying to figure out how to fight this technocracy because most people don't know what technocracy is. They don't even understand or recognize the problem, which is the first issue that we have to address. But then beyond that, how are we going to defeat it? And I would argue we're in the bottom of the ninth inning with respect to where we are in fighting technocracy. Just this year, the Trump administration has passed essentially a digital ID through Real ID. Real ID is digital in eight states and growing. We now have a backdoor CBDC

through the Genius Act. We're going to be tokenizing equities through the Clarity Act. We have Patriot Act two point zero. So this one big, beautiful bill has one hundred and fifty billion dollars worth of spending. that is just dedicated for AI surveillance and the militarization of the police. And we have a whole variety I mean, of other things. if you look at what's going on in Washington, D.C., you see, you know, potentially you could call it some more militarization on a mass scale. And we're seeing things like EBT cards, food stamps are becoming So RFK comes out and says, hey, more programmable. you no longer can buy People on food stamps can no longer buy sodas and people

are cheering this and not realizing that's a form of digital programmable money. So technocracy, oh, and I forgot the biggest of all is Palantir, which now has a contract to build a database on all Americans. And I'll talk about that because this is part of what's motivated this movement. tool that I'm going to show the prototype for tonight. But I've been digging a lot into Palantir. And I encourage you to go... They don't even hide this stuff, by the way. This is the case with all of this. If you've never heard about technocracy before and you hear me talking about it, you're like, oh, that sounds like a conspiracy theory. Where does all this come from? And then you find out you

can go to their websites. They don't hide it. You can look at YouTube videos. They are the primary source. I'm not talking about... I'm not even conjecturing about things. I'm actually... showing you what they're saying and what they're doing directly. They don't even bother to hide it. Palantir's technology is downright frightening. you can go to their YouTube channel I mean, and they'll show an analyst sitting there and it's like, oh, well, you know, I want to turn a satellite on and provide surveillance on this particular person. And it shows them using this app and literally turning on a satellite and using it to to collect data. And they are already involved in a variety of

intelligence matters all over the world. They're interfering with various conflicts, whether it's Gaza or Ukraine. So they're involved at the international level. They're also involved at the local level with predictive modeling for police. And so you will be horrified when you see they're actually showing that they do and that's only what we're able to see that they do and they're now growing they're a four hundred something billion dollar company uh and this is just you know growing out of control so so waking people up to technocracy is one thing and then the way to defeat it is because it is a battle for free will is we have a choice to make are we going to continue to be programmed by

algorithms and by institutions that are manipulate us using fifth literally trying to generation warfare tactics or are we going to reclaim our free will and start making decisions about our own life and that's a very active process but part of this I'm going to put together another website that actually shows and I discussed this last week How we've we're probably already ninety percent of the way towards owning nothing. And this has happened through the signing of click wrap agreements, hundred and fifty of these every year. which we sign over one So whether it's your Microsoft agreement or your rental car agreement or your four one K, these are these electronic agreements where you scroll

and scroll pages and pages and pages and nobody knows what's in there. And so I'm actually going to create a website where you can drop a link and it'll actually give you a score and show you visually what the contract means in terms of your rights and your privacy and your economic ownership. Because I would argue we are not dealing with informed consent. People will say, well, yeah, this is legal because it's a contract. But if nobody reads the contracts because they can't read the contracts, because you'd have to spend an hour a day every day of the year reading the contracts, that's even if you understood it, then is that really informed consent? But the solution to this...

which is typical to my approach, is not to pass a law. The way to solve this is to provide tools that demystify this and expose what's going on with these contracts so that moving forward, people can maybe push back and stop signing these agreements or look for alternatives rather than these, you know, fifty hundred page agreements where you're giving away things that have nothing to do with the product or service that you're buying. So lastly, once we've recaptured our free will and now we have informed consent, then we need to build a decentralized private set of solutions. And that's why I talk a lot about what you can build with Zeno. built by the technocrats So everything that's being

centrally can be rebuilt or built from scratch using privacy tokens and using peer-to-peer marketplaces. And so those are the three areas that I'm focusing on. And I've really spent a lot of time summer trying to figure out how to be effective at this because again I'm frustrated because people don't know about this and we're losing ground what I listed off about what's administration it's only going on under the trump getting worse every every week we're hearing about more acceleration I'm going to lead a little bit into what's next last week I talked about this daily mail article and I spent four or five hours with the journalist who is researching this I'm glad to see, actually,

that this is starting to get some attention and it's starting to get out there. But I'll tell you, it was even hard to explain what it means in terms of Howard Lutnick's involvement with Tether and the fact that his company, Cantor Fitzgerald, manages the treasuries on behalf of Tether and why that's bad and what the conflict is and everything else. It's very complicated, technically speaking. to discuss because people don't know how the existing monetary system works and this is actually part of the challenge that I have in general is not only you know once you start talking about well is it freedom tokenization or tyranny tokenization people don't really have a good understanding of

the existing system works which is by design I'm not faulting people for this because at no point in your educational journey does anybody teach you how fiat currency works that it's money printed out of third you know thin air with this uh cartel of banks in the middle profiting off of it and it's backed by nothing other than the force of you know of the irs you know threatening to throw you in jail or shoot you if you don't pay the debt that's owed to the the federal reserve it's a ridiculous system it's a ponzi scheme people are only taught to comply and to do a very good job of doing addition and subtraction and balancing their checkbook on top of this ponzi so so this is

tricky and tonight's topic is going to get even into more tricky areas what I'm what I'm going to talk about tonight this goes into the area of speculation a lot of it and I wanted to throw it out there because it highlights a problem that I think that we have And I go back to Palantir, this this afternoon. and I was thinking about Think about how this works. Palantir has all of these databases. They have information about us. They've pooled information from private sources. Now, thanks to Doge, they have access to our IRS information. Thanks to Trump, they're going to have access to all of the federal departments and their databases on us. And they're going to be able

to pool all that information. So they're pooling information from everywhere. And We don't get to see our own file. We have no idea what's in it. Shadowy people may or may not be doing things with it. It's not constitutional. But I mean, as Edward Snowden has showed us and as I've learned doing more of the research, this isn't a new phenomenon. This has been going on since the nineteen eighties. So we have a situation where our money is completely tracked. And I've talked about on and on and on how our current financial system is already programmable. It's already trackable. The IRS can look at your stuff. NSA bulk data collection. Our money's tracked. Our financial transactions

are already tracked. And these government parties and deep state entities and other third actors have all kinds of data, thousands of points of data on us. And we have no idea what they're doing with it, but we're paying for it. yet we don't know anything about them essentially you know we have no information about them we haven't really organized who are these technocrats who are doing you know we don't these people what are they have a palantir type system to keep track of that so so they manage to be private with respect to to their information and then their financial transactions aren't tracked know we found out that the treasury department was just basically we had

somebody that wasn't doing any due diligence on transactions he just rubber stamped everything and then they didn't even put notes so the treasury department four point seven trillion dollars for the spending we have no idea where it went there was no accounting for it our own government can't complete audits twenty one says twenty one trillion dollars as captain ross and fitz missing this is the inversion of how the system is supposed to work we're supposed to have privacy both with respect to information and financial transactions and it's completely inverted so we need to level the playing field what I'm going to talk about today is based in part on a really interesting video that I

saw with a guy named dr jack cruz I don't agree with dr jack cruz on everything frankly on a number of things which I'll discuss at some point in here However, this was a really interesting video that he did with Breedlove about who he thinks Satoshi is. and I'm listening to this And so I'm looking at this and it's making a lot of fantastic claims. And I've studied some of the Epstein stuff and I've studied a lot about Tether and everything else, but he said a lot of information in here that I'd never heard before. And so as I was working on my article, I thought, well, how do we know if any of this is true? We don't have any systems for analyzing a lot of this information.

Again, these technocrats, we should have a Palantir-like system. We should be able to analyze all of the information. We should be able to do due diligence. We should be able to assign probabilities. We should be able to say, hey, look, this is interesting. This guy's saying this, but we need to prove or disprove a number of the points that he's made. So I'm going to, for the first part of this, talk about the claims that he's made and then assess a probability that they're true or not, just to kind of get the ball rolling, to start thinking about these things in a different way. this will then lead into this tool, Because again, this technocrat atlas that I think we should launch so

that we can crowdsource information about these people palantir is doing this in the dark they're collecting all this information and then they've got people that are paid to do whatever they're doing with it the solution for us is well why don't we have an open source version of palantir where we pool and open source our research on these people and so I thought this was a good case study for this because as I'm writing my article yeah I'm like well I'd like to know the answer to this Some of this was fascinating for me that I just didn't know about. And I did research what he had to say, and I could validate a lot of it I couldn't, but I couldn't validate it a hundred percent.

So some of what he's saying is plausible, but even in the process of researching what he was saying, that I didn't know about I learned a lot of things the whole history of a variety of things ranging from how the mafia operates, the intersection of the mafia and the intelligence community, uh, uh, The early involvement in digital cash, MIT's involvement, it ties directly into and a lot of the players overlap with Bitcoin. So there's some of the present here is absolutely true. information I'm going to Some of it remains gray areas, going to be interesting for but I think is actually us to take a look at. So I'm going to start out with this guy, Meyer Lansky. And so there's Meyer Lansky

and this guy Moe Dalitz and Buzzy Siegel that were heavily involved in the Jewish mafia in the Midwest. And this is absolutely documented and true. You've probably seen certain movies about this. This guy Meyer Lansky, as Cruz pictures it, is an incredibly influential figure. But he's a math guy. He's a financial genius. And he's, by all accounts, not a violent man. So while he's in the mafia, he's not... He's not killing anybody. There's no evidence that he's murdered anyone or that's his side of things. But he has figured out a lot of techniques for concealing money.

And some of this I've got to say, I mean, you know, a lot of what he did was a response to the Federal Reserve Act in nineteen thirteen. And he got involved in a lot of things related to prohibition, which aren't necessarily bad things. So it's just interesting to kind of document the history of this. And so not only was he involved with a lot of the... The money laundering. one of the things that Cruz says In fact, is that money laundering comes from Lansky, who used laundromats as a way to conceal the money. That's where the term money laundering, he says, comes from. I was not able to validate that. There were other groups. So I don't know if it's a hundred percent that he was

the mastermind or the first person to use laundromats for money. laundering money but certainly he was you know of the same class of people that were doing that um and by all accounts he was a bright bright guy from a financial perspective And so we know that. We also know that the Bronfman family worked with him when Prohibition kicked in to distribute alcohol in the United States through his networks. And this actually does play into a lot of other things. The Bronfman family gets tied into other organizations as we go down the line. So we'll just say it's pretty clear this guy was an accountant, very good at laundering money,

very well connected in terms of not only with the Jewish mob in the Midwest, but then later working with the Italian mob as well. So then Cruz makes a variety of other claims. And I'm trying to... figure out if these are true or not. But his claim is that Lansky was actually involved in blackmailing J. Edgar Hoover at the FBI. it's pretty well known that Hoover was Now, blackmailed, and it's not clear if it was Roy Cohn or Rosenstiel. There were definitely these camera parties that were going on at the time where blackmail was used. We've certainly seen some of the photos.

I mean, it's pretty well acknowledged that J. Edgar Hoover was being blackmailed. Whether it was specifically Lansky or some of these other folks, I'm not entirely sure either. And so, you know, again, because it may matter and I'd like to find out it may lead into some of these other concepts. Lansky then had an alliance with Luciano and Murder, Inc., So he was involved with a variety of things. And these guys built Las Vegas. Lansky, Segal, and others actually literally built all of Las Vegas because they knew this was a deserted area where they could engage in these activities. And they were very...

intelligent about the approach that they took. They learned quite a bit. For instance, they learned to not put clocks in casinos and they learned to give people alcohol as a way to keep them gambling. I mean, there are a lot of things that they did a lot of trial and error and experimented with to increase revenue. But there really truly was a huge syndicate here. And in fact, it's alleged that Lansky helped Luciano get out of prison because of a situation where during World War II, the claim is that because of their involvement with

the shipping industry, They were able to detect German spies that were coming in. And it's alleged that eighteen out of the nineteen spies were killed. But this one spy doctor was was spared. And there was a lot of gratitude for this kind of patriotic mood move by Lansky. to protect the us uh from from these german invaders and so this is alleged to be part of why luciano was able to get out of his legal situation so So this is all going on. Some of the stories here then become even more interesting. There's another story that in this process,

Lansky learns that there's an agreement. There are a bunch of Zionists that were Jews that were cutting a deal with Hitler to get out of Germany. and moved to palestine which is now israel which was against all of the agreements and the boycotts everything else and I guess against germany and lansky as crew says was was very incensed about it and you know revealed this information to the roosevelt administration I have not been able to determine whether that was true or not um other involvement not only in las vegas but cuba there weren't just casinos in the U.S. Of course, for a time.

There were also casinos in Cuba. And Cruz makes the claim that Lansky was able to move three million dollars out of Cuba and launder that money in a way that was untraceable and that that money was then involved with funding a lot of other a lot of other things um again I I don't even know some of the stuff I I'd be curious as to what his source is because I haven't been able to validate any of it but it's it's certainly not impossible because, again, this is how a lot of this functions. When I was digging into this and doing a lot of research, we didn't have a big, robust CIA. A lot of these organizations formed kind of

post-World War II, didn't have any budget. And so there were known tight alliances between the intelligence community and the mafia. And so this involved a lot of things, including funding, you know, basically what we now call black ops, and even, you know, moving munitions and potentially being involved with cryptography and other things like that and so it's so again this stuff is is interesting part of it is definitely true or at least part of it's true in that those things were happening in general we just don't know if lansky was involved then there's this issue of Blackmail is a political weapon, which I actually think I already discussed. So we know blackmail was

involved not only of Hoover, but then that became a technique of Hoover, right? Blackmail against Martin Luther King, JFK, I mean, I often... you name it. joke quite a bit that, you know, the FBI is a, is and always has been a but I'm actually not kidding. blackmail operation, This has essentially been the currency of the organization since the very beginning. So Cruz paints this picture that basically Lansky controlled the FBI. And because of these sex parties and these pictures and everything else that from a very, from the very beginning of the FBI, essentially Lansky had control of this. And It was also alleged that I

want to see if I think I missed a slide here. Actually, let me see if it's all right. Yeah, I did miss a couple of these slides. So I'll just state what was in here. I mentioned that it's alleged that Lansky, that they uncovered nineteen spies from Germany. Eighteen of them were killed. And then this guy Plotner was spared. And that Plotner actually had a whole bunch of information and may have been the precursor to the MKUltra program. So this was a doctor within kind of the Nazi party that was working on those kinds of techniques. So what's alleged here is that Lansky, you know, had knowledge of MKUltra before

it was MKUltra. And a lot of ties then with General Groves and Dulles as a result of this. And also the statement that Cruz makes is that Operation Paperclip, which was Nazis getting involved and coming over to the United States and becoming embedded in things like NASA and the FBI and so forth, which we know is true, that did actually happen. But Cruz is suggesting that this actually happened before World War II. Again, I've been unable to validate that, but he states that in part, some of the early funding for DARPA might have come from the mob,

from these relationships. So at this point, the way he's told the story is you've got Lansky blackmailing the FBI, figured out that germany and hitler was essentially conspiring with the rothschild banks to allow some jews to move to palestine now israel and um and also had advanced knowledge of operation paperclip and the precursor to mk ultra now again I'm not saying that it's certainly possible that this is the case but he made a lot of these claims and Some of it you can determine is true and some of it you can't. Some of it we may never be able to find out for sure. As we go through here,

then we start learning about other things. And I don't know if you've This was probably one of the heard about this. largest claims that he made that I can't substantiate totally. But this is another one where when you look into it, you find out that... There is definitely a lot there that I was unaware of that should be frightening in and of itself. And the first is this whole promise technology. for prosecutors. It was basically a database and technology that was sold to many governments and exported to countries all over the world. And it turns out that one of the guys heavily involved in selling and brokering this was Robert Maxwell,

Ghislaine Maxwell's father. And what it's alleged is that there was a backdoor. Well, it's not alleged. It is known that there were backdoors in this software. So you basically had various entities had access backdoor information to very sensitive intelligence in this country and abroad. And it's alleged that Lansky had access to this information. And again, the backdoors have been verified, but the claim that Cruise makes is that Lansky found out through these back doors how corrupt the Federal Reserve was. And in fact, that corruption and the

exposing of that corruption is actually what caused Nixon to go off the gold standard. we're in a situation where So in other words, up to that point, the dollar was actually backed by gold. But, you know, the claim here is that Wolanski uncovered the fact that the gold isn't there to back the currency and there's all kinds of fraud going on, so on and so forth, and that this is what pushed Nixon forward. to abandon the gold standard I have found nothing to pretty important point support that and that's a right that's a that's a major point of what he has to say I I think that um I mean again there's not a shred of evidence that I've found but if he has it it would be very interesting to see

So we're laying out this Lansky guy. It basically has all kinds of access to information in the United States, overseas, has a good working relationship with the U.S. government and or the ability to blackmail the government to get what he wants and manages to avoid any kind of prosecution himself. Although I talk often about the Bank Secrecy Act in nineteen seventy and it is in no small part Lansky's activities that caused the creation of the Bank Secrecy Act to attempt to stop money laundering, which, of course, completely and totally failed. Now, this is where the story begins.

gets even more interesting. So we now have a situation where, again, you imagine you're the mob. They are engaged in illegal activities. They are engaged in money laundering. This is a fact. Now money laundering laws are put into place through the Bank Secrecy Act. You're going to look for alternatives. And again, this is something that I haven't been able to completely fact check as being true, although parts of it It's alleged that, you know, after nineteen seventy three, that. There was mob involvement. In the funding, as well as CIA involvement in the funding and the

creation of DigiCash. And if you're not familiar with DigiCash, DigiCash is a was a anonymous cryptocurrency before Bitcoin. And it had some issues. It didn't get a lot of adoption at the time. I think they had one bank that signed up. And based on the timing and everything, there wasn't enough demand for it. They ended up filing for bankruptcy. But one of the other issues that it had was that it was centralized. Even though it was private, there still needed to be a central authority to make it all work. And so... So Cruz is trying to make the claim that Lansky or subsequent people in the Lansky network tied to another group were actually

involved in funding this. And so, once again, that's a pretty big claim. I think it would be pretty interesting for people if it turned out that DigiCash was funded by the mob and or the CIA. Now, what is interesting about it is the chairman of DigiCash is a guy named Nicholas Negroponte, who... ran the MIT multimedia, the MIT Center before Joy Ito took over. He was there from nineteen eighty five until two thousand. And so Negroponte was the chairman of the board. And Negroponte has been on the record as saying, you know, he knows or knew at the time,

eighty percent of all of the billionaires on the planet personally, or maybe it was just in the US. I mean, he would brag about this. But one of the other interesting things about Negroponte is that he was friends with Jeffrey Epstein and had visited, not only visited Epstein's Island prior to two thousand and eight and prior to his initial arrest, but actually supported and vouched for Epstein after the conviction and encouraged Joy Ito and encouraged MIT to take his money. Even though. And even though he knew about the criminal charges, he's like, look, just take the money. his statement was that it Basically, doesn't matter where the It shows that there was a money comes from.

complete lack of any kind of ethical standard with respect to the source of funds. But it also shows that Epstein was directly tied to MIT fairly early on and with the guy that was the chairman of the board of the predecessor to Bitcoin. so that is an interesting story which I'm going to get to more as we go further so then again this uh digi cash collapses files for bankruptcy wasn't demand it was a little bit too centralized maybe it was just the timing but uh cruz's last claim is that len sassaman is Satoshi Nakamoto.

And here's how he lays this out. He says that Len Sassman was a student of Chom who created DigiCash and had the technical expertise. So obviously he was already in the field of anonymous digital currencies. He'd also worked on Tor and and and he claims that sassaman created bitcoin learning from the mistakes of digi cash and based on his experience and knowledge and have having you know intersected with some work that adam back did so on and so forth realized that you know you could solve the problems of digi cash with time stamps

and and proof of work so and he claims that He wanted to build a system because it was a proof of work system. One of the faults of DigiCache was that there was a central entity involved. Even though the signatures were blind, it still required kind of a central server, if you will. And that he wanted to put forward a digital cash solution that couldn't be controlled by the CIA or the mob. So I encourage you to watch This is his claim. his video with Breedlove. I'm not saying whether this is true or Now, not. I find it interesting, though, as I've examined the individual claims, I've learned a lot about

the fact that it is actually plausible, but it isn't proof that And then I realized we need a system it's actually the case. to be able to track down whether stuff like this is legitimate or not. Because Cruise is getting a lot of attention for this. This video has over two hundred and fifty thousand views. And if it's true, I'd like to know it. If it's not true, we should probably not continue to push this particular narrative. So again, I came at this from the standpoint today of putting out information that is some of it's speculative, some of it's not, but to just try to start to lay a landscape that will build into this tool that I want to launch so that we can ask these kinds of

questions and try to crowdsource solutions to them. One of the things that I have found frustratingly so, is in being involved in crypto since twenty twelve. But then, you know, in the last three years since I've been doing the book and speaking engagements and everything else, when I interact with the media, the media doesn't have the background knowledge to even do investigation in this area. There is not a basic understanding of crypto or digital currencies or the existing financial system at all I mean we're basically starting from from square zero so you don't need to be an investigative journalist a lot of you that are listening to this and people that I know know these people and were

involved during this so we just need a a mechanism and a way to kind of measure and track some of this stuff So again, I'm not saying what he's saying is true. I'm saying there are a lot of claims that he's made that we should see if we can validate and verify. To me, it doesn't change the ultimate conclusion because even if Sassaman, even if everything that he said is true, it doesn't change the fact that Bitcoin is transparent and non-fungible and trackable and so forth. And so I don't, you know, Cruz is a Bitcoin maxi, and that's one of the main areas where I disagree with him. So, you know, whether he's right or whether he's wrong, I don't think it changes anything.

you know where bitcoin actually is I mean sassaman may have improved on digi cash but he didn't create peer-to-peer digital cash for the world or something that we can use as a medium of exchange to escape technocracy so anyway I know this if you're looking for something definitive it's not definitive for a reason which is that I want to begin a process of figuring out how do we start tackling problems like this so again check out that video and if you've got information about this let me know anything that can either refute it or support any of these claims but I will tell you as we get into talking about the tool I've been going down a lot of rabbit holes to try to learn about a number of

different things and from my talk last week with courtney turner I will tell you, it is fascinating what Epstein's connections are. Everybody's focusing on the sex trafficking, which, of course, is a horrible thing. And and that kind of blackmail operation is unfortunately a commonplace situation. But. The way I look at it is that it's very probable that Epstein's role is he's Meyer Lansky II.O. And essentially what he is is he's kind of the money guy for the technocrats. Because as you dig into who his networks are and the kind of research that he's funding, he's at the center of all of it. He's at the center of genetics research. He's at the center of AI.

He's at the center of digital currencies. I mean, this isn't a... There's a reason for this. There's a specific ideology that's pushing this. So this guy is a major financier, not directly, but he's the guy connecting all of the people that have been pushing the technocratic agendas that... I talk about being against and so I find it interesting as I've gone through and explored this how many things he's funded how many organizations he's been involved in whether it's things like he was on the board of the council on foreign relations he was on the board of the trilateral commission he wasn't a public guy but man this guy was behind the scenes interconnected in a whole bunch of different ways

through a variety of different organizations. So I'll put that out there for now. Now, of course, prior to this podcast, I wanted to see what Jack Cruz was talking about. I follow him. And this is one of those areas where I disagree with him. Somebody commented on... There was a post today, you may have noticed that Our Treasury Secretary has said that the U.S. is not going to buy more Bitcoin. I guess there's more involved in this. They may, I don't know, reevaluate, revalue the gold holdings, because we haven't even which is interesting confirmed that we have the gold holdings. They may come up with some scam. And by the way, civil asset forfeiture.

That theft strategy is still on the table. So, you know, we have built our strategic reserve off of civil asset forfeiture, which is theft. So many of our friends like Ross and Ian and so forth, their crypto holdings are part of the Bitcoin strategic reserve. And they have not stated that they're going to stop civil asset forfeiture. So that's still on the table. But this guy, Horatio, commented that, you know, it's why Rogers held captive. So the fact that they're not buying this Bitcoin is why Rogers held captive. And Jack says, no, it's because he's a shit coiner. Well, I mean, I disagree with him. completely on this point roger is in the position that he's in for a variety

of reasons interconnected with all of this interconnected with epstein bitcoin and everything else and the hijacking of he's in this because he was promoting and continued to promote not just bitcoin but he's always been dedicated to promoting Peer-to-peer digital cash is an alternative to central bank digital currencies and to be used for day-to-day trade in a way that's censorship resistant. This is not what any of these people are promoting. This is not what Bitcoin is. And then I'll get into some of the tie-ins there, which relates to the article that I wrote. Then we have... So that's the Jack Cruz stuff. So check this out. And again, I'm giving you kind of half-baked stuff that I've

been working on related to my research into Tether. But there are some fascinating overlaps here. I talked about some of this last week, but it turns out that Epstein, Pierce met Epstein... possibly earlier than this, but in a conference on Epstein's Island, on the future of money. And at that point, Brock Pierce started advising epstein on cryptocurrency so there's this was a kind of a long-standing relationship and this has been confirmed uh in in other documents um I guess

some of this stuff was unsealed in two thousand and nineteen about all of this that that um that he was epstein's crypto council there's a next web article from twenty seventeen so this was a conference called excuse me mind shift And so I don't know how many of you were aware of that. I find it interesting that Brock Pierce, who's been involved in crypto heavily and heavily involved with Bitcoin and other projects, was consulting Epstein on crypto starting in twenty eleven. I know when I wrote my article suggesting that Epstein was tied to MIT and not only the hijacking of Bitcoin, but also US CBDC pilots,

a lot of people's response was, oh, this is just a conspiracy theory. Epstein didn't even have anything to do with crypto. Well, no, I mean, it's documented that Brock Pierce was advising him on crypto going back fourteen years ago. So that that is a. A true thing. And Brock Pierce was one of the first people involved in funding Tether. I mean, this is actually, I don't even know why this is. Ninety five percent. This is absolutely the case. Then we have Howard Lutnik's involvement with this. And so what's happening here is Lutnik in twenty seventeen somehow approaches Tether. And I'm guessing that Brock Pierce was involved in one way or another and decides, well,

you know, I'd like my firm to have the business of managing all of the treasuries for Tether. But the relationship and the dialog begins in twenty seventeen. And now we know So not only does later after twenty seventeen, does Lutnik negotiate a six hundred million dollar investment in Tether? And by the way, it's not an equity investment. It's a debt investment that can convert to equity. So he would get his money back, you know, first before equity holders. And he put up that six hundred million in exchange for his firm being able to manage the treasuries. Now, this is what's interesting about this story, which is that. Tether's never passed an audit.

It's unclear what is backing Tether or even if it's primarily treasuries at all. at a bitcoin conference last year their ceo said they have a million bitcoin or I came a hundred thousand big a large a large amount of bitcoin and tons and tons of gold so not entirely sure even what percentage of the hundred and fifty billion dollars worth of tether they claim are backed by treasuries so all of a sudden lutnik comes in and says well I want to manage these treasuries it's like okay well I mean, at this point, stablecoins don't even have to be backed by treasuries, but he negotiates this deal, then comes out of nowhere, gets involved in politics, never been involved in politics before,

and becomes the head of Trump's transition team, which is involved in vetting and selecting candidates for the cabinet. He angles and tries to put And what does he do? himself up to be treasury secretary. this guy cuts a deal to manage treasuries for the largest stable coin. And then all of a sudden puts himself up to be the guy selling the treasuries. And so, I mean, this is a, I don't know. I don't know how much more corrupted ends up getting than that. And then pushes the genius act. And what does the genius act do? The genius act forces stable coin issuers to back their coins a hundred percent by treasuries and dollars, right? So, as I said last week,

and I said in the Daily Mail article, Lutnik is... probably the single largest beneficiary personally, his firm, he'll say, well, I divested myself and, I don't have any ethical issues. you know, His sons run Cantor Fitzgerald. So, I mean, you know, again, there are always legal ways for these people to weasel their way out. Just like insider trading isn't, it's not technically illegal, but boy, it certainly doesn't look, look very ethical. And so now he's controlling the actual, uh, treasuries that back the largest stablecoin, or put differently, the digital dollar, while he's the Commerce Secretary. And so it turns out when you

dig into this even further, I mean, it just so happens he was Epstein's next-door neighbor. I believe he lived at nine. His address was nine and Epstein's was eleven. People were trying to make a lot out of that. That seems to be... I don't know. perhaps a little bit of stretch, but not only was he Epstein's neighbor, but he bought the house from a firm owned by Epstein. And so then when I dig into this a little bit more, I'm thinking to myself, well, Brock Pierce seems like a pretty interesting guy to bridge Epstein and Lutnik. interesting things happen. But then some other So I've talked about this before,

the Bitcoin Foundation. And I know people that were involved with this. And so certainly if anyone wants to correct me, happy to hear from this and entertain this. The Bitcoin Foundation was founded by five people, one of them being Roger Ver. And the idea is that, okay, Bitcoin is an open source project, which means there's no funding. There's no token sale. How are you going to fund development? So they put together a nonprofit. Well, Pierce gets involved and becomes the chair in twenty fourteen while there's a whole bunch of chaos going on. There were some people on the board that got involved in some legal issues. I believe there were some funding issues at the time.

so somehow he finds himself in But anyway, the position of being the chair of the Bitcoin Foundation. At the same time, you have Epstein involved with the digital currency initiative at MIT. So he basically, vouched by Nicholas Negroponte, the former chair, who was the chairman of the board of DigiCash, he's investing money into Joy Ito, the new chair of the MIT group that's doing all this digital currency stuff. And at that point in time, a couple of things happened. So we went from the Bitcoin Foundation funding most of the development to this interim period.

Brock Pierce is chair during this time, where MIT comes in and fills the gap. And this is the time period in which Bitcoin narrative shifts from digital gold, I mean, excuse me, digital cash, something you use for peer-to-peer commerce, to digital gold, something that's slow, expensive, but you hold it. This is when the whole narrative shift happens. So as this narrative shift is happening, MIT is funding, and then Joy Ito through his garage ventures, they're funding things like They're funding SegWit. Lightning Network. They're funding the changes to Bitcoin that make Bitcoin digital gold. and move away from the original vision of digital cash. At the exact time they're doing this,

they start funding all three U.S. CBDC pilots, Project Hamilton, Project Cedar, and Regulated Liability Network. And remember, at this point, there's a funding crisis from this organization that Brock's now the chair of. And so some of the Bitcoin developers actually go to work for Project Hamilton. They start working on the US retail CBDC. And then Brock ends up the chair, you know, after whatever the tumultuous period was, he may even still be the chair of the Bitcoin Foundation. So anyway, the guy he's been advising, Jeffrey Epstein, on crypto since twenty eleven is funding. The MIT guy who's funding all three U.S.

CBDC pilots and funding cementing the changes to Bitcoin to make it digital gold instead of digital cash. I find that to be interesting. And Epstein didn't talk a lot publicly, but he did do one interview. And he happened to, in that interview, give a very long and lengthy statement where he basically said, Bitcoin isn't a viable medium of exchange, well, but it is a good store of value. So I think this is problematic. who's the chair of the Bitcoin So Pierce, Foundation while this is going on, is then also starting Tether as one of the early investors, maybe even the first investor in Tether.

And then obviously knows Lutnik. So this I find to be not only interesting, but all of this deserves a lot more investigation. And by the way, as I'm talking about this, I'm only scratching the surface. And if some of this is confusing, this is why we need to put together a website. This is why I'm launching this website. It's not just for this issue. It's for all of technocracy. It's for everything that's going on, whether we're talking about AI surveillance systems or digital cash or whatever area it is, Palantir, PayPal Mafia. these guys have all of the Again, remember, information about us and all of our financial transactions are public. We don't know anything about that.

But there is information out And the more that you dig into it, there that's available. the less you're probably going to be comfortable with it. So again, we have foundation funds essentially flowing to MIT. I don't know if Bitcoin foundation funds. Actually, I should do this. So this actually says, Oh, yeah. foundation cash redirects to MIT digital cash initiative. So I want to check and see if that's true, but it's conceivable that some of the funding from the Bitcoin Foundation actually went to MIT to fund some of these changes. This really needs to be investigated. Again,

you've got MIT right at the center of DigiCash, then you've got them right at the center of all three U.S. CBDC pilots, and then behind the change in the narrative at a very crucial time for Bitcoin, making it digital cold. So now, have we validated that the money that Epstein gave MIT was earmarked for this particular purpose? We haven't, although, and I want to confirm the source on this, I do believe he gave money to Garage Ventures. So certainly, wrote my article initially was, one of the things when I uh which I wrote over a year ago I was kind of surprised because I'd never heard of epstein being involved in crypto of course we now know he's been involved in

crypto since and he's had brock pierce advising him that so that changes things and then um and then research somewhere I'll find what the source is that he also invested in this garage venture so I think it's very likely that he was funding or at least supportive of what initiative was doing at the digital currency this time period where the Bitcoin foundation was faltering. I'm going to suggest this isn't Again, definitive proof, but to me, Brock Pierce seems to be the guy right in the middle of this that bridges Epstein and Lutnik. There's so much that I haven't even gotten into with this that, again, I know this one even sounds a little bit unorganized. This is why we need tools

for this to map all of these relationships. Some of the stuff that I've found about Les Wexner, who is essentially... Epstein's only client, but then he's tied into other groups that were tied to Lansky. All of this stuff is connected. And what we need to do is map it out and then validate, confirm, or reject whether or not these relationships are important or matter. So that's essentially the overview for today. So again, I'm working on an article. So this isn't anything definitive other than take a look at this Jack Cruz thing. And if anybody has any information that can validate or not invalidate his claims,

please let me know. And then there are clearly ties and overlap between Bitcoin and Tether and a lot of these same people. Again, we can find all of this stuff out. To me, it doesn't change anything. But as I'm looking at this, I read Creature from Jekyll Island, and I had the privilege of speaking at the Red Pill Expo with G. Edward Griffin last year. And we sit and look at this now, and we say, man, the Federal Reserve, what a scam. Can you believe all of these backdoor deals that happened? What a corrupt system. And I'm sitting here saying we're living through in real time something that seems as bad or maybe even worse with Bitcoin and stable coins.

I mean, I think arguably it is worse. But it's actively happening right now. So, yes, we can sit here and chant end the Fed and do whatever. my conclusion is going to be the same. And again, Ditch the dollar. But, you know, we should also be ditching Bitcoin and we should be ditching stable coins like Tether for very similar reasons. I mean, think about the Federal Reserve. Right. Well, the Federal Reserve, it's not backed by anything. It's a cartel of banks issuing currency backed by IOUs. We don't know who owns it. And originally it was backed by gold. which they abandoned that standard. owns the Federal Reserve. So we still don't know who

And if you listen to what Cruz has to say, Lansky was able to find through this back door that the Federal Reserve was not fully backed one-to-one by gold, which of course now wouldn't surprise us. Okay, well now we're moving into a new world where we have a digital dollar, tokenized fiat. And the largest player, in that world, has never completed an audit. And the guy that's supposed to be managing the stuff that should be audited, that's supposed to be backing it, is the Commerce Secretary, who happens to be Epstein's next-door neighbor with all of these other interesting ties. I find that, again,

this is not a compelling situation. We should be ditching the dollar, but we should also... look outside of these solutions stable coins I think are probably these regulated stable coins are worse than fiat and in many ways it's worse than the federal reserve and very much in the very same way it's a shadowy group of people we don't fully know who they are we don't know if it's actually backed but now we have programming and surveillance on top of it so I think the public will like to learn about some of these things again it's hard to explain which is why We need a tool. So I'm going to pop in and open this. This is a very crude site. So let me say this as an

introduction to this. All right. Here we go. Let me go back to the front page. So here was the genesis of this. So basically... I've been studying technocracy for three years or so now. And the real grandfather of this whole thing is Patrick Wood. He's been studying this for forty years. And I only learned about it three years ago. And I found that almost nobody has heard about technocracy. And when I wrote my book, the whole first half of the book, I was trying to lay out why

CBDCs are a threat. And who's behind them? And we all get into this conversation of, well, who is the they? And there are a lot of people that have various conspiracy theories and everything else. Well, I tend to, if you haven't noticed, I continue to ask questions and push and push and push until we either find an answer or where either the hypothesis is proven true or it's nullified. But I'll keep asking the questions. And so when I was writing my book and I did this, And I started to look at, well, who's the WEF and who's behind this and who are the organizations behind the scenes? it turns out you can figure out who Well, these people are. And it's not a particular religion.

It's not a particular race. None of that is true. It is a network of people. Those people change, but it's not a very large network. It's not a huge number of people. And some of the people do remain consistently there forever. over a long period of time so as I'm looking at this I'm finding okay you have the trilateral commission you have the council on foreign relations builder group others but it's like well who are these people so I reached out to patrick wood and he told me well I have the list I've been keeping track they don't say who it is publicly but he's been tracking it personally and building a database for forty years so he sent me the list he sent me the list of everybody

that four hundred or whatever people are part of the trilateral commission and he's written books about this and he'll tell you you know you can see the pie chart I'm going to be by the way on with him uh with patrick wood and courtney turner on august the twenty fifth so we're going to be talking about a lot of this but you know you look through this list and it's it's their top people in the united states europe and Asia, mainly Japan. And it's a cross-section of people, probably half from large multinational corporations, and then some percentage are high up politically, some are high up in academia, some are high up in media. And he's even tracked where these are from.

And they rotate in and out, and they stay on the board for whatever, two, three years, whatever their term is. So Larry Fink is currently on there. Jamie Dimon used to be on there. I mean, there's an alumni of who's on there actively. And then as you drill into it, you find, particularly with the Trilateral Commission, you look at what the intention of the organization is, and it's been to push... globalization and to push technocracy since the early nineteen seventies and to do this through trade relationships. it's a very concentrated focus strategy. And I mean, There's no conspiracy theory. You can read what Rockefeller has said himself. They've put out booklets.

They've put out information. You can see what the Club of Rome has to say about these things, about manufacturing and using climate hysteria as a reason to push to this new arrangement of society and Brzezinski and so forth. And so most people are unaware of this. And then it does get into this, well, it's got to be this one... um one group or this one faction the other it's like why don't we actually look at who the people are why don't we objectively figure out who these people are who who is participating in these organizations who's on the board of directors how does this change over time how do we track this this will help us to understand where the power and influence is and so

that we can kind of know what we're up against and so it's a massive undertaking After I interviewed Courtney, and as I was doing research on this, the Epstein ties and Lutnik tether and Bitcoin, I realized after talking to Courtney, wow, there's so much information here that we just don't have it compiled anywhere. And in fact, a lot of the language models, when I wrote my book originally, I was using AI for research and I would use it to not only give me the answer, but always to give me the source. Cause I have never trusted whatever AI's output is, but it can give me a link. And then you have to go to the link is valid because the link and find out if sometimes they even make up the link,

but it could be useful for Well, early on when I was using Chad GPT, things like that. I don't even know what the model was. I was able to inquire, do things like, who was on the board of directors of, well, has anyone been on the board of directors of all four of the Trilateral Commission, Club of Rome, Bilderberg Group, and Council on Foreign Relations? And, you know, it spits something back. I think it was Kissinger's been on three out of the four boards. And then there was somebody involved with the Carnegie Foundation that was on all four. I can't run those queries anymore. I can't get that kind of information out. I mean, I haven't tried it recently,

but I know there's a period of time where I used to be able to get a certain type of research, research that I'm doing and but for the kind of the topics that I'm covering, it hasn't indexed. I mean, I got into a fight one time with Chad GPT on the creature from Jekyll Island about the history of the Federal Reserve. So I'm reading all of Courtney's articles and I've read all of, or not all, but a lot of Patrick Wood stuff. we need to put this in a common platform. I'm like, So I started building a... I won't get into the technical details, but a database, not a typical database, but a Node.js database connecting and linking and indexing all of this content from these sources.

So all of Courtney's stuff and all of, getting Whitney Webb stuff and you know, Catherine Austin Fitz and all of these books and G. Edward Griffin and everything else and putting it into... a relational structure so that you can start to see the connections between people. And then what you can do is actually see what the relationships are between the people based on themes, and then you can actually color-coat and weight how strong the evidence is. So if we think Meyer Lansky is... connected if you can see it on the screen now to david chum then okay well how strong is that and if you can see on the screen now I have that as a red bond so that that connection is not that not that strong but

then you can see david chum obviously is connected to digi cache and so I've started building this master database and just ingesting all of this information about technocracy going all the way back to the nineteen thirties. So we're going to be able to start visualizing this and taking the mystery out of it because it is it isn't again, it doesn't need to be this a lot of what it is. It's a lot of people speculating. There shouldn't be any speculation. organizations that actually These were these are a lot of them had meetings and minutes And we can track it. Just no one has. And it's actually been or not that they haven't, but no one's done it in a way where we can make it

accessible for people to look at and also use it as a tool to track down more information and figure out where we're confident or where we're not. So the idea behind this and just the sample UI. what you're seeing here is for what we've been talking about today. So for the, you know, the Jack Cruz thing, the Lansky Bitcoin connection, right? So we lay out, all right, well, who are the connections? And then you can, you know, click on the nodes and you can get kind of like a little, it's like, again, it's like an open source version of Palantir. You can start to get information and a dossier on, on these people and then people can collaborate over time and put in systems to

to validate and change the confidence level of the information so that you're able to then go in and look at these things well what's the relationship between palantir and you know military operations in gaza or you know whatever it happens to be because the overall map of this stuff of all of the things that are in there I mean obviously you're going hundreds and then in the to have hundreds and future thousands of different notes so yes you could go in and drill in and look at it but there's they're going to be these filters where we can say understand how this works all right well we want to what is the association between this and this and this is a tool

that gives us the power to do that. So again, this is crude. This is just the mock-up of the front end, but I've already been doing the work on the back end. And it is kind of overwhelming. A lot of this is going to be to try to figure out how to filter this information and make it more usable. But I thought if we could do this in a way where, again, it's visual, Because I'll listen to Courtney or I'll listen to a talker. I bet you're listening to what I've said. And you're like, oh, what the hell did he say? I mean, how are you going to remember all of the names and the timeline and everything else? it's one of those things you listen to. I mean, It's like, oh, that's fascinating.

And then if you go to tell somebody else what you just heard, oh, was it this guy? Is this actually accurate? Was it this? How vetted was it? So I thought this would be a kind of a cool way to do like an open source version of Palantir. And so in addition to, laying things out. the UI is going to need a lot of And again, work in terms of what are the nodes that connect the people and the ideas and the relationships, but then to also be able to map out timetables within these various projects that are defined. So this to me is a way where again we we can't you know we can't beat them in terms of they're using our money and they've they've got employees doing this in shadowy behind the scenes

but we can take all this information and make it publicly available and then what I thought might be interesting and I'm not committing to whether I'm going to do this or not but would be to gamify this to actually put out bounties so let's say we say you know like what I was talking about earlier all right well Cruz alleges that DigiCash had funding from Meyer Lansky's group or group associated with Meyer Lansky. I don't know if that's true or not. we could put together a token I have here certainly as an example this is an example of a tokenization project on xeno so we can create in this hypothetical example I've created daylight tokens you know maybe this ends up being

freedom dollars I I don't know how this might work but where we can say all right well we we want to find out the answer to this and and then can actually pay people to submit findings which we then of course validate before we put it in as is something that's kind of officially part of the the node structure. But this is a way... Because again, I know my personal network can probably answer half of I mean, I know this is the case, right? these questions. And I wouldn't even know where to go otherwise. And I've learned enough. I used to advise Ben Swan with his truth in media. And I know James O'Keefe from some of the activism in New Hampshire. And again, look at what he's put together.

What he's put together is a decentralized group. So this is a way... for us to crowdsource uh technocracy and so you know again this is crude but here's where you would be findings and then you know able to submit your we can have leaderboards and you know different experience levels and everything again don't take this too literally this is a this is more conceptually in terms of how all this stuff works I've been building the database what's what's the back end behind the scenes but for the purpose of being able to talk about this today I wanted to put together a pretty simple front end that is oriented around the two topics that I've been talking about which is the

jack cruz information about bitcoin and then the the ideas around tether and again I haven't even captured a fraction of what I've learned in doing my research so I do apologize if this seems a little scattered even the the explanation um of both of these because in part even it's like there are other as I'm thinking about it ties to all of this and rambling so um so what I'm then you can end up doing is aggregating all of the information and at some point when I put out an article you know for me if I put out an article that had inaccurate information in it I would get crushed right I mean there are enough people that don't like the stuff that I'm talking about already already been kind

of blocked by all of the bitcoin maxi so if I put out something and the information is wrong you know it's going to to crush my credibility so even as I was talking about this today I'm like okay here's what we know here's what we don't know and then I think we need a tool like this but I would like people's feedback I'd like to see if anybody would actually shares my enthusiasm and interest in this obviously I'm going to be talking to the people that I know are already actively involved in technocracy and are already excited about kind of spreading the word as to if they would like to participate but I would love to to get any Any feedback that you have regarding whether this is

something that you would participate in? You don't even necessarily have to participate in it. It's just something that you would use. Would you find a tool like this useful? Do you find conversation? I mean, do you find if you listen to Whitney Webb or you listen to these things or even if you listen to some of these conversations on Tucker Carlson, do you ever find yourself in a situation where you're like, eh, you know, I can't follow that or you can't remember... what it was exactly. You may not even remember all of the details. I think this can address that. So anyway, I'm going to be putting out more on this. I'm going to build kind of the first version of it. We'll see how quickly the

hardest part is going to be scrubbing this data. I see somebody in the comments says, you know, Have you read Whitney Webb's two-volume investigation, One Nation Under Blackmail? Yes, I have. It's great. It's great material. And by the way, this is exactly the point of this and why I'm excited about building this. When you go to use AI or you go to use a search, when you try to research these topics, it will say, well, Whitney's not a valid source. So these AI models are still waiting. Even Grok will wait, oh, if it's the New York Times or if it's a court record or whatever, but it's not going to give credibility to what Whitney Webb has to say. And I think that's a mistake.

Her information is incredibly well-researched and well-documented. I think we need to take all of that information and all of Courtney Turner's information and Patrick Wood and And you get G. Edward Griffin, Catherine Austin Fitz, all of this information and make it searchable. But more importantly, connect the people and the ideas and the timeframes in a way that people can view visually and can move and follow along and navigate. to learn more about these ideas. So again, I think that I know for me, so as I started doing this, I'm like, I write a lot of these articles. all right, I do a lot of research, but I can only do so much. It would be far more effective.

And I'm not one of these kinds of people that's like, oh, I want to be protective of the information that I have. The whole point from my perspective is I want as many people to know this information as possible. I don't want to be a gatekeeper. If anything, for this information. I want to take all of the source information that I have and make it easier for me to use and make it easier for everyone to use because the whole point of this is to shine light on technocracy and to learn what's going on. But I will tell you, the more I learn, and the more connections that I see and everything else like you know there needs to be a sense of urgency here there's a complete lack of sense of

urgency and you know other than saying it's extremely urgent um I think a tool like this when people can start looking through it will you know open their eyes and say oh wait well okay this is more of a problem and In fact, this is a serious, serious issue. This is something that I've actually... It's funny as this sounds. I mean, I've kind of been working on this idea for twenty years. I mean, Foundation now, I have the Daylight Freedom but I actually started Daylight Network... um, in two thousand and eight. And so I guess that was seventeen years ago. And that the original idea behind that was, you know, this is naive. This is my my view of, well, hey, maybe we can crowdsource, you know,

auditing the government. Right. And looking at politicians and looking at the federal departments and analyzing bills and everything else. And I realized after a long period of time of being actively involved in politics and everything that That's a completely rigged system and nobody cares. I, I, I found that, I mean, I built the site and we were, you know, at the time analyzing bills I had a prediction market and I actually even had a, in two thousand and eight on a variety of different things. And I know when we were in the financial collapse, I'm like, you know, will the bill, will the tarp bail bill bailout pass or not? Will it be more than seven hundred billion or five

hundred billion or whatever? It was at the time. And there wasn't a lot of active interest in this. And I'm not saying this is going to be millions of people are going to want to use this, but I think this is going to be a tool. More people are waking up every day to technocracy. And the problem is when people wake up to technocracy, it's hard to have a real simplified way of getting your hands around what's going on. So anyway, that's the site. Certainly, well, feedback on now because there's not much to give this is a crude design, but this is kind of the direction this is heading.

And like I said, I think this gives us a chance to kind of compete at least with what's going on. Go look at Palantir's own videos on YouTube. Check out their own channel. I mean, this is, again, one of these examples of where you don't even have to make a theory or conjecture what these people are doing. They'll show you what their apps are. look at how cool this technology is. And they're like, oh, And it's like, okay, somebody's sitting there saying, oh, yeah, I want to tune this satellite in to spy on this world using this app. person anywhere in the How cool is that? And I'm sitting there like, okay, well, great. They're violating everybody's rights.

They're violating everybody's privacy. We're paying for it with our tax dollars, and they're bragging about it online. And meanwhile, what do we know about them? We're sitting here saying, oh, well, These guys are just going to it's great. make government more efficient with technology. Not when you actually study what's going on. Not when you study the ideology of this, what technocracy is all about. And so the challenge is going to be figuring out how to lay out all the information, it's going to be a work in progress I mean, get the views working. for a while. I'll set up a sign-up form. It's going to be free. probably put a sign up email and if people want to uh to

get early access to kick the tires that'll be great but um but I'm definitely because I thought this going to launch this would be a far more powerful thing than you know it doesn't mean I'm write articles I am going not going to continue to to continue to write articles but What articles are you going to write? You know, when I sit down and write something, it's like, okay, you know, the whole reason I'm doing this is not just to write. The only reason I'm doing this is to warn people about technocracy. Well, what are the areas? What are the things that What are the gaps? people don't know about? Oh, yeah. So, yeah, I see in the comments, Whitney uses all public available information.

You can link it all you want. You can link to it all you want. But I would credit her. Yeah. this is one of the things I No, I mean, I want to... want to credit. promote all of these people that have been creating content. I want to link to them. I like, I don't view them as, I view them as sources that we should be listening to. And it's hard for, for people that have been collecting this information, including Patrick Wood and others to, how do you find this? If it's not indexed, if it's not considered a primary source, I mean, even these AIs now, frankly, they're kind of a bit, I mean, you have to be such a, well-informed prompt engineer just to be able to get information out of it.

Because otherwise, if you're not, generic questions and if you're just asking you're not giving this a whole bunch of specificity on how it should look for things, then you're going to get health information from WebMD and Healthline, just like you get if you use Google. The default sources of information for these things are not trusted sources. They're the sources that many have just learned since COVID and the censorship industrial complex shouldn't be trusted. So I want to get that other information. And again, we'll make it transparent what the source is and then have a mechanism for making decisions or for people to be able to make a decision. Maybe you make your own

decision about what you think of the source. integrity of the source but um but to me this is a start and this this allows us to all kind of work together and contribute to learning about and understanding and finding the gaps about what's going on so so that's um That's what I've got on that. Like I said, crude overview for now. More to come. Autonomy Reboot, I'll move on to some other things and then we'll open it up for Q&A. Autonomy Reboot. So again, I'm going to create a website related to this. And the idea is we're all programmed and I've talked about this all the time. We're programmed by mainstream media or

government schools or now increasingly algorithms, I want to create a site that indexes that, that shows people all the different ways they're being programmed. But then the most important thing that I think I can contribute to this site is the ability to provide true informed consent by taking these agreements that we're signing and stripping away the thirty, fifty, hundred pages of legalese. And actually coming up with a visual representation of what it means. This is how much of your privacy you've given up. This is how much of your economic ownership you've given up. This is how much of this you've given up. It's so that you just, you look at it. You don't have to, you know,

just like they've trained us to not even bother to read it or even think about the consequences. Now this is something you can look at and immediately know why it's bad and why it's wrong without having to read it. Because I think this is the I know there are a lot of way we fight back. people that are like, oh, well, let's just change the laws. Let's get more informed consent. And I've spent a lot of time in the healthcare field before realizing it's something that we should be boycotting. And every time you're going to get an informed consent form, it's going to be a bunch of big pharma executives, hospital executives, and lawyers. click wrap agreement. It's going to be another

It's going to be something nobody reads. But then people are going to be able to stand up and say, well, yeah, but look, they got informed consent. They signed a you know, stating that, you know, they understood what they were doing. No, they didn't. They didn't read it just like they don't read anything else. So the way to solve this isn't through more government and more lawyers. It's through market based solutions in that. So let's again, let's use A.I. against them. I know there are a lot of people that look at these technologies and say, well, I'm just anti-AI, or AI is going to be, it's either never going to work, it's never going to do what they say it's going to do, or whatever,

they're afraid of it and they don't use it. But it would be foolish to not use these technologies, but use them in a way that promotes freedom. I like the idea of an open source version of Palantir. that's free, that people can contribute to. The code is publicly available. We're not hiding anything. To me, this is how we can actually level the playing field or or even get an advantage. Let's not avoid AI. I'm using AI in helping to code and design that. Why would I turn away from using AI? The same thing with the let's fight them back they used. And I've mentioned this before. Actually, click wrap agreements work. With my second company, I was able to reduce my sales cycle from eighteen

months to ninety days. We sold to HR. in large corporations, which is a horrible experience, by the way. That's a whole other separate story. But by the time you're going through this process of dealing with HR, then the HR person is like three layers down from the financial decision maker. And so then once you get a lawyer involved, you send them a thirty page document. and then it's flagged and legal has to Oh, go through it. Right. So then it's sitting in the queue for legal. And then there's all this back and forth and everything else. You send over a click wrap agreement, they sign it. It's literally, so I mean, I've used it. I know it works. It was actually, had I not done it,

our company probably wouldn't have been profitable. But I know how it works the other way around it. I also know in working with a lawyer to draft the agreement, how much bullshit is in there and how we've gotten to this point where everybody just, well, yeah, there's three pages at the back that are all in all caps. Well, that's just boilerplate. we've conditioned everybody boilerplate just means you can't change it everybody signs it don't even read it that's essentially what what they're trying to convince people of when they say something is boilerplate so I think that's going to be a very effective tool for informed consent but informed consent is only useful if

you're actually exercising your free will which is why I and I'm not sure how to do this or if the website's the most important thing but teaching people much they've been programmed there's that clip that I've played before you've probably seen it where it shows these tv news anchors local tv news anchors around the world saying the same thing about you know spreading misinformation and everything else and I actually have a collage of clips where you can see how the script that the you know one thing I like about england is they at least called it call it right they call them news readers instead of anchors or or whatever whatever we call them here because that's what they're doing they're

reading they're reading the news And it's clearly syndicated from the top down, even across networks. So you could have a Fox affiliate in Nevada and a CBS affiliate in Montana, and they're reading the same thing. That's how programmed that is. So that's a really great way of showing people how programmed they are. What's more difficult, though, are these algorithms. it's this whole freedom of speech, You know, but not freedom of reach. This is an absurd idea. I mean, that is algorithmically determining. So we have a whole bunch of people now that think they have free speech.

They've bought into that as a statement, not realizing how heavily influenced, how algorithmically you can change you can move an election you can move popular opinion on any number of topics with just a slight modification to that algorithm so it's more difficult to explain but it certainly in our modern age these algorithms uh are actually the biggest part of the programming that we have you know it would have been television before but I mean it's not you know it's not magazine ads now it's less tv commercials and it's more these algorithms that we can't even see and that many have convinced

themselves or just out of even realize they're there lack of knowledge don't behind the scenes so people have bought into free speech not understanding what what it is that they're even seeing in front of their own face so anyway that's that's what's going on with that um I mean I'm happy to open it up by the way if anybody wants to come in I've got some more stuff that I can talk about but also would enjoy the the q a part as well and just the general discussion because there's there's so many different other things to talk about you know I struggle with this I want to talk about all three areas every time I do a podcast but usually I have one concentrated topic that

I spend all my time on and then we run out of time so I'm going to figure out how to restructure Because there's been a lot of news on the revolution will be tokenized front. There's a lot of news in crypto. And, you know, if you've been following this at all, you probably saw there's an alleged fifty one percent attack against Monero. I don't even know if that's actually true, if it's an actual fifty one percent attack. But there's a mining pool that has been working on trying to get control of the network, which means they can reorganize transactions and stop transactions, reverse transactions, create overall havoc on the network. This is a kind of a known issue with.

With proof of work, but. The only comment that I want to make about this is. We. We are fighting against the technocrats, not fighting against ourselves. So I'm supportive of all privacy solutions. I don't want to see bad things happen to me. I use Monero. I mean, I actually just did a and got paid in Monero. So I'm not a maximalist. I'm a big supporter of the Zeno platform because you can tokenize other assets. It's not just digital money. It is something that you can use to tokenize stocks, bonds,

everything else. It's kind of a counter to that. But I want to see Monero succeed. And they have a lot of options. this is just normal stress testing. And by the way, This is the other thing that we have to be aware of, which is... particularly after at least part of what we went through. I mean, I talked about stuff related to the hijacking of Bitcoin that isn't even in hijacking Bitcoin. So there's an entire other book that goes into other aspects of this, right? So we know this has been a part of what's happened. Yeah, I see Ed McLean. percent attack yet. It's not a true fifty one If they gain hash rate or the rest of the network hash rate drops, it's a realistic possibility.

Unlikely, but possible. Yeah. So, I mean, you know, look, my viewpoint on this is, I mean, if you're sitting there and you're like, I should stay away from Monero. oh, well, you know, Understand if you're using fiat currency, your money's already tracked and it's losing ten percent of its value plus every year. It's already lost ninety nine percent of its value. It can already be programmed. So don't look at a fifty one percent attack that hasn't even happened yet as a as a reason to be scared off from the project. Understand this is a war. There's going to be a constant. there's going to be constant fighting back and forth. I mean, we're going to have people try to

infiltrate these privacy coin projects. I mean, the question is, what are we going to learn from the hijacking of Bitcoin? What are we learning from what we know about what happened with Tether? What happened with Bitcoin? What are we learning from the creature from Jekyll Island and the Federal Reserve? the problem is we even know about I mean, these things. these things for decades. We've known about some of That doesn't mean we can stop it. You know how absurd it is that the Federal Reserve even exists? I mean, again, it's amazing. We get financial surveillance and we don't even know who owns the intermediary that prints our digital money out of thin air. Where is that in the Constitution?

Or under natural law? And yet it goes unquestioned or unchallenged. I mean, yes, maybe... Massey or Rand Paul will put forward a bill, but, you know, it's not going to happen. It's not going to be stopped legislatively, or it'll be replaced with something worse, like Tether. I mean, this is the amazing part. Right? So we're watching unfold. The creature from Jekyll Island, too, is happening, you know, in cyberspace, right in front of our face. And they're using the same kind of propaganda techniques. I mean, remembering... what they did to kind of push the federal reserve and all the propaganda that was done there. Well, I mean, I should go back and, you know, I got to index creature from

Jekyll Island, put this in the, in the thing, cross-reference this. let's compare tactics with the Let's, genius act and, and, and what went on with the founding of the federal reserve. So here we go. I see deadhead here. Let me get my screen structured properly. How are you? Good, good. And how you doing this evening? Good. I didn't catch the first, I don't know, forty five minutes of your talks. But about this database idea, I missed some of it. this is fantastic. I think it's it's absolutely great. Outsourcing information. Is basically. Except for the vetting process.

Yeah, except for the vetting process. Yep. Although, I mean, again, you can use AI for part... There's like a pre-screening process through AI, but there still has to be a human touch. But even in doing this, even in building this database... Because I'm using AI to basically scrape data and then put it into a format that I can load into Node.js. And so when I'm doing this, I'm asking it to give me a first to rate these things. And what I found when it was doing the ratings is it would discard. It would take something from Whitney Web and would say, well, this isn't sourced. But it would take something from the New York Times and be the gold standard. it would consider that to

So let's just understand that one of the things revealed, this shouldn't be surprising to anyone, but what is considered to be primary source material when these AIs are spitting back, quote, truth? Even Grok is considering, I think, sources that many of us would not believe are viable as the standard of truth still. And it doesn't spit back when you do generic searches, these alternative sources of information. This is why just pooling it Now, is going to be interesting. figuring out how to vet what's true or not, I mean, that is going to be a tough one. And, you know, again, maybe this is one of these where you leave it as you just show people what the source is and let them know.

Let them create their own percentage probability of what they think of the evidence and weight it so that you can weight all these different things. I've looked at this, this, this, And it's like, all right, well, and this. And based on what Jack Cruz said, I think that there's a forty percent chance he's right or an eighty percent chance he's right. but you present the person with the information and what the source is and let them, let them decide. Um, I mean, again, I'm not saying that there's no objective truth by saying that, but I'm, what I'm saying is that we live in a world where what is considered to be objective truth is probably propaganda. So now, so now what do we do?

I totally agree there along that AI can problem. I would say, um, I was listening in through the chicken AI spaces the other day, and this guy was using grok and he had asked it a question. I think he said he is some investigative reporter. I probably remember his name, but he asked rock, you know, tell me about myself. And then he dealt him. Why did you primarily make this an emphasis? Why didn't you talk about this? And then he dealt in, he kept asking, well, what are your motivations? What is your weight on different aspects? And Grok was just giving out all the information about how it was actually programmed to weigh

different things different ways and why it made this decision based on, and I think it even was like talking about who was programming it this way. So have you tried Brighton? Have I tried Brighton? I have for some. Actually, before I do that, hey, There's a direct from Philly. happy birthday. Hey, thank you very much. How's it going? Did you have a good birthday? Yeah, I did. I did. Thank you. Awesome. the same output. I wonder if you're getting Well, so with BradyOn, you submit a thing and then it sends you an email. And so it will become more...

helpful when you can download the local version. That's really what I'm excited about. So I do use it for certain things, but what I found is it just needs to be trained on, we need to train it on our own data set, right? Like that's an issue. I still think there's a lot of room for that. whatever it is that they're using for this is for training these data sets. I mean, again, the weights, I think Anthropic may even have their own their own constitution or effective altruism I was something based on talking to I was actually talking to my son about that I want to look into that so anthropic was backed by sam bankman freed

was it was a bit he was a big uh early investor in that and and I remember digging into that and they have like they have their own constitution they call it but you know you dig into that it's like okay well this is the layer this is the censorship layer and um Hold on. So you know what? I apologize. Courtney just asked when it's going live. Oh, I guess she asked a while ago. So I've found that the information sources that I

use or that I've even found when I was putting together my book, they're not available in AI. Or one of the things I mentioned on the podcast itself is I actually spent a whole bunch of time, I was trying to get it to spit out memes or something. for president and I was This is when I was running trying to get it to do some Reserve and it wouldn't things on the Federal kick back response. It said, well, I can't produce this because it's, it's not factually accurate or something. And then I'm like, well, so then I had to bring in the lens of, well, you know, you're a researcher and an expert in the creature from Jekyll Island. But then they even fought me on that. And so...

So I knew I'm looking forward to the Brideon local app. But in the meantime, I think for the purpose of technocracy right now, I'm just in the process of ingesting all of the wonderful information that's that's out there. you could if you think about I mean, look, Whitney Webb's book, two volume book, One Nation Under Blackmail, how useful would it be to have a visual map? that you can play with of just the interconnections from that. I mean, I got that book on audio. Now I've actually ordered a physical copy of it. But, you know, you can't keep track of that book in audio format. The number of names, the number of connections. But if you could see it visually... And then you combine it with

other information. You're like, holy shit, I didn't realize that. And then some of the stuff becomes pretty obvious once it's all mapped out. So I think it's going to, anyway, I enjoy this, things before and nobody but I've done some of these else gives a shit. So it'll be interesting to see at this point. great people that are, But I know there are some everybody that I've met, people like Courtney, Patrick Wood, that are really interested in technocracy and passionate about it. Once you learn about it, you can't, not inform people about it right it's that bad if you have any sort of moral compass at all you're going to do everything you can to spread the word and so

hopefully a tool like this can help do that and help promote the content of the people who original sources I see courtney in there in the chat. And like, I want as many people to read her articles and watch her videos as possible. how's that going to happen if it's Well, not being indexed by Grok? How's that going to happen if it's pushed aside in the results? Oh, hold on, there she is. Well, could you do something, let's say, like, have AI crawl, you start with a couple of people who are, companies that they're on boards and and you take all the of or were on boards and then match them up with the other board members at the same time frame and you

don't have all the you know information about every person but that gives you a structure to work from and then you can go you know people can go research these individual people submit the information for vetting and we'd probably discover a ton of connections we didn't know about this is the beauty of AI and the Well, ability to use something like Node.js, which is that you can scrape the data and then have it thrown into a database, been really time-consuming something that would have and hard to get mapped properly. can now be automated. I'm not at the point now where I'm like, okay, if I'm going to go on a podcast, I can examine somebody's entire sub stack, scrape the whole thing,

put it into an index and then map all the relationships and ideas and create a mind map from the entirety of that person's body of work from sub stack. Or I can take all of the YouTube transcripts from an entire channel and consolidate into one text file. And then I can do whatever I want with that text file, including map it into the system with nodes and edges. And so to me, this is just a tool for me because I have a hard time keeping track of all of this and it, uh, and it gets worse every day. So, you know, if nothing else, this'll, this'll keep me from having to try to remember all of this stuff. And, but yeah, you could layer in everything. I mean, this is probably right.

Not supposed to legally, but you could layer in, you know, campaign finance information. You could put in financials. I mean, there was that site a while ago. Was it called they rule? I think there was a, they rule.net or they rule something that would, uh, Show the overlapping of corporate boards, public corporate boards. Yeah, that'd be a perfect place to start. Yeah, you could just, you could integrate something like that in an afternoon. So layering the data is something, you know, again, then it becomes one of these things where if you've got this cloud and it's got ten thousand points, then it's obviously not useful from that perspective. But then you create these views,

which is what I tried to show in the demonstration where it's like, OK, we filter by you know, a certain set of criteria and paths. And now we can just see the visualization of the network based on those criteria. So anyway, it's probably boring technical stuff, but this is just user interface stuff is, is what I'm, I studied in, in, in college. So I, that I think is the most important thing. And I love the visual interface you were showing. basically a net, a web, you know, and you could travel along that web in any direction where, where connections were going. If you were doing research, I see this as a fantastic research tool. Yeah. And man, you know, so some of the stuff that

research that I find, I'm like, wow, is this actually true? Once you start getting into Peter Thiel and then, but by the way, and I've been talking about this the last couple of episodes where, um, where this whole fake US-China thing comes in, all you have to do is start analyzing the business relationships and the money flows between US technocrats and China. That will tell you everything you need to know. To watch Musk wrap himself in the flag is absurd. But you have to show people that, because I wasn't lying when I said I think Americans are the most brainwashed people on the planet. People don't know that China's winning in sixty out of sixty-five categories,

but they also don't know that the people that are wrapping themselves in the flag and talking about being America first and dark MAGA and everything else are also cutting deals with China. Palantir has backdoor deals and like, and some of this is done surreptitiously through other third parties. And I want to map some of that out. There's a lot of stuff that I didn't want to talk about cause I haven't vetted it and I don't want to go. The last thing I want to do is, is spew stuff that then creates polarization unnecessarily. But the, We really, these intelligence agencies are bad news. Oh, good. It looks like Courtney's going to hop on. Have they ever been good news? Huh?

Have they ever been good news? No, I have not found any kind of like leprechaun gold, you know, bucket at the end of a rainbow kind of situation yet. That's never happened. It's good. Hey, it's possible. The other problem... How do we go to that multiverse? Well, I mean, look, the thing is, as much as I've laid all this stuff out, the answers still end up being the same, right? Just unplug from this stuff and use private decentralized solutions. There is always... I know I often come off as being blackmailed, but I'm not. Once you realize this stuff, just get out of this. Like, I'm watching... Like, the RFK stuff is infuriating. Every day watching it, it's just more government and, you know,

we're going to do this. It has nothing to do with medical freedom. And even engaging in that is a waste of time. But you can just stop. And then this is why I'm like, we need to build a medical marketplace, medical tourism marketplace, global, private, rating system, but still private, using aliases. People should be able to do whatever they want. and and that's it that's medical freedom medical freedom is I don't care what the nih says I don't care what rfk says so what and we can build those things in fact we have to build those things because the longer we're wasting time thinking that we're going to change the system that we have then then you know then we're that much

further behind and the technocrats are moving Faster than, you know, again, that I warned when I wrote the book and people still don't even know it. Right. Like we're actively in it. Some of the connections. Here's one for you. Do you know that Peter Thiel is an investor in Lutonix firm, Cantor Fitzgerald and a blockchain initiative? Yeah. See, that's amazing. I mean, you start going through this. I haven't even mapped the teal network. I'm throwing all these data sets in, This is what I say. and then once you see something, it's like, oh, well, now I should go look at... Now I've got to go scrape data all related to this thing.

And then as the pictures start coming together, because for me, what should we be researching? I want to figure out, What don't we know? Which is almost everything. Once you can start visually seeing this, it's like, oh, wow, I wonder if... Here's a hypothesis. some of the hypotheses might be wrong. And by the way, I think Jack Cruz is wrong on several aspects of what he said. I mean, I can't validate some of it, but then I also think some of it's wishful thinking. I mean, him out pushing, you know, Roger Ver is where he's at because he's a shit coiner. I mean, I don't know. So I don't know how you track the history that he tracks and you're still bullish on Bitcoin,

even if you believe what he said. I don't know how he believes how he believes even what he wrote. And he's still bullish on Bitcoin. Yeah, I agree with you. There's some things that he's needs to turn around. Hey, let me ask you. You mentioned something about you were talking about getting talking to Patrick Byrne, right? Yeah, I've texted him back and forth, and I haven't because I don't know where to fit it in yet in this podcast thing, which I'm going to go to two times a week, but I've got to try to figure out how it fits in, and I need to prep for that one. Oh, big time. And I want to keep it focused, frankly, on the tokenization side and, frankly, the hijacking of overstock because,

obviously, he can talk about a lot of areas, But I mean, when I say that overstock.com was the second biggest rug pull after Bitcoin, I truly believe that and no one knows about it. Oh, yeah. I'm a hundred percent with you on that. I was right there for it. Yep. But what I wanted to mention, have you, you know, he's got a very good friend. He works very close with Martine and I think it's B-I-D-I-L. He's the guy that briefed Tulsi Gabbard for two days, right before Tulsi Gabbard came out and started talking about the twenty sixteen election and that they're all talking about the twenty twenty election. If you look into that guy, he's been an incredible researcher for fifteen, twenty years,

and you can find articles going back many years. And as I can say, if you get to talk to Patrick a little bit, you might mention that you might want to talk to him also. Yeah, I should ingest all the deep capture info, I guess, too, right? Oh, my God. Have you not read all of deep capture? No, I've read all of it. When I say ingest it, I put it into the system and map the relationships. Because there's another example of treasure trove of information. Patrick is another guy that you listen to him talk. And if you can follow twenty percent of it, you're lucky. And it's just because it's like that many people, that many layers, that many names, that many organizations, that many scenarios.

I'm not going to be able to It's like, OK, keep that straight. But boy, I would love to be able to see a visual map of what the hell Patrick Burns is talking about. When you talk to him, mention that we were there at Freedom Fest when those events happened. You know, obviously we didn't meet with him or even I don't even think we knew about him then. But it's just interesting how the universe puts people in the same geographical area. Yeah, no, that's true. There, there were, there were a lot of overlaps, right, right. At that period of time. I mean, in, there was a lot of stuff that was going on, you know, in my basement and at freedom fest. Um, I mean, that's when we were trying to get,

I was trying to get, um, Ben Swan and James O'Keefe together to try to push a collaboration. Yeah, yeah. That was interesting times. And while we had Ben Swan there and James missed his flight or the flight was canceled or whatever, we didn't get to have that meeting, but that was... Yeah, New Hampshire weather. Yeah. A lot of flights. Yes, yes, it will. Speaking of medical freedom, Bill Gates has a new butter out now. And it's not made of any animal products or plant products. It's just a bunch of chemicals with natural flavors to save the planet. And it's going to be all the candy and pushed in

everywhere before the holiday season. Before this holiday season? Yeah, that's what they're saying. It's going to be, I forget the name of it, but it makes you wonder, would you want to have any butter that Bill Gates made? No, I wouldn't want to have anything, Bill Gates Bay. I mean, remember, I can't believe it's not butter. The butter substitutes have never worked. They've always been horrible. And I'm sure this one's going to be the worst. Well, we can make some good memes. I can't believe it's not Microsoft. Do you know the story behind the margarine scandal and everything? Not that I remember it. That's a whole thing. Yeah,

they started making margarine to feed to turkeys and I think chickens, but to fowl. But none of the animals were eating it. And they had this cheap product and they had to do something with it so that they started marketing it to us. I saw something like that with ants, too. Yeah, with the sucrose, with the fake sugars, right? Yep. It's all scammy. Jeff Bezos has something now, I believe. It's some food product. I can't even remember what it was that managed to skate through without even trials. Is it fake fish or something? I gotta look up that.

I just saw something and I can't remember where and I can't find it again. Maybe... You guys know Bill Gates apparently was just given permission to spray, aerosol spray from his bloody lethal. Vaccines in Canada. Yeah. I heard that, but I haven't been able to confirm it from a reputable source. Yeah, I've forgotten where I heard it. Where did you hear it from? Voice of America, I think. Oh, yeah. You know, which they got some wild stuff on there. but you need to back that up before. I read them, Yeah, and I don't believe anything until I've verified it myself.

But it wouldn't surprise me. You know, now the vaccine, what is verified, the vaccines they can do in dental floss. Yeah. Yeah, they've got the vaccines and everything. I mean, we're pretty much screwed. You can't avoid them. Yeah, but the upside is you're putting fluoride in on those things, so you know to stay away from them anyway. Yeah. The first question that popped into my mind way back when they, you know, when they first started talking about the whole world has to be inoculated. Like, really? What's behind that? Why is it so urgent that everyone gets this treatment? That's totally suspicious.

And why people didn't pick up on that? it's it's not just greed and profit that drives something like that there's another intention and as you you read into it you find out what that intention is of course which is to transform humanity and hack the the code Yep. Technocracy and transhumanism, they're all linked. This is why I hate researching this. I just researched it. I didn't realize this either. Bezos Earth Fund commitments. Sixty million investment to establish Center for Sustainable Protein. Aimed at improving the taste, texture, nutrition, and cost of alternative meats. A thirty million dollar grant to North Carolina

State University to build a research facility for manufacturing these things. A hundred million towards alternative proteins. Not co. A driven startup which creates a plant based alternatives, plant based alternatives to dairy meat. no basis is all over this fake food, too. So, yeah, Yeah. So this is all in the name of climate change or global warming or whatever they call it now. And it's all fake stuff. But they have everyone believing this so they can get us all to eat these chemicals where butter itself is actually really good for you. it has cholesterol and fat and You know, other things that your brain actually really needs. But I'm just surprised that people are still buying

into this climate change stuff. I don't know. You know, why people are that naive. It's taxation without representation. It's taxation without global, without national borders. I mean, the upside is as soon as they implement all the bank-issued central bank digital currencies, they'll make it so we can only buy the fake stuff. You know, it would be funny to watch. Has anybody watched An Inconvenient Truth lately? That would be fun to watch. To see Al Gore, like just the fact that that even happened. Talk about gaslighting. Wow. I would love to watch. None of that happened. Podcast. I mean, how long is that movie? It's under two hours.

You could fit that in one of your podcasts. Yep. Oh, there we go. There's Courtney. Hey, how are you? Hi, Courtney. Great. Thanks for coming on. Yeah, thanks for having me join. I love the idea of doing the database. I think that would be amazing. I think we really need it. Get it all compiled. Make the volume a little louder. Yeah. Yeah, that's crazy. I just emailed Whitney because I started reading her... I started reading her too. Oh, now we're getting an echo. Getting an echo. I started reading her two-part One Nation under... Hold on,

we're getting an echo again. Do you have headphones? I think, hang on. I don't know if... Okay. Try it now. Why does that do that? There's a delay in the echo. It was fine until... Is that better? No. Don had this issue last time, too. I'm not sure. Where does it come from? I mean, if you have headphones, I mean, it might be that it's picking up what's coming out of the speaker. Yeah. Oh, okay. so I can't do the headphones. I'm hearing impaired,

Courtney, you're fine. Oh, no, no. The problem is not on your end. It's Don, and I'm not sure what it is, but my guess is that if you don't have headphones, that might be the problem. I'm just using a large webcam mic. Oh, it's not doing it now. It's funny. It kicks in and out. Anyway, yeah, I agree. That's it. Tremendous idea. I was reading Whitney Webb's One Nation under blackmail. completely got overwhelmed by all the contacts there and came up with the same idea that it was absolutely essential like I'm making notes as I'm reading trying to keep track of all these people no way there's too

many of them and there's too many organizations and cross links and time references and all of that stuff and you need to tie it together in a database that's what databases are for so I emailed her to try and get her permission to to to do that and certainly not uh commercialize it in any way and if she wanted to commercialize it fine but just for my own interest so I'm totally on board with what you're talking about aaron thank you for bringing it up I haven't even thought that it would be available on audio silly me so I just scored a deal because I have all these audible credits and sometimes I end up overpaying for the books I buy but uh I just purchased uh volume one volume two of

one nation so uh Thank you. Fabulous book. It'll make you sick. But it's, it's a tough audio book. I mean, I will tell you, it is a tough, that one's I'm usually good it's that, with auditory stuff and that one's not, that's not the best audio book. No. One thing that I've had problems with when I'm doing research is, is like in, did a really deep dive into Ukraine going back a number of years. And I saved a bunch of links. I wrote up an outline. half the links to the articles don't exist anymore. Luckily, I'm able to find them on the Wayback Machine. But when we find information and you link people and you're, you know,

like Whitney links to a thousand different articles that are out in public domain. So you're going to be linking to the same articles. You may need to grab a copy of those articles and store them somehow. Yeah, using IPFS, you know, something like that, Aaron. I mean, even IPFS is tough, right? Because unless somebody's, you know, yeah, but I mean, I'll throw a terabyte on a RPI for and you can just stick them all on there. That's, you know, that that's pretty simple. It's a terabyte now. Seventy five bucks for a for a drive. Yep. All right. You've out geeked me. What is an IPF for? IPFS stands for

Interplanetary File System. Yeah, I'm familiar with that from all the Ravencoin stuff. Exactly. Yeah, it's the same thing Ravencoin uses, George. You know what it is. So you're just taking a hat, you know, I'll just stick the files up there and the database as backup. Okay, okay. Thank you. Yeah. I mean, cause I, I find that like half the files that I look like articles that I go and research, even for my articles and I want to link, like I can't get access to them or the links are dead. Um, so I, a lot of what I put in most of my articles, it has been from the way back machine. So, but that's really hard to,

for other people to compile. So there needs to be some sort of a resource where people can find it easily. Mm-hmm. Go ahead. With the IPFS, I know Ernie Hancock's been pushing that for a long time. So he has quite a big archive on there. And so does James Corbett on his website. And I think Mark Passio does too. Those three guys have a treasure trove of information. I think they're all on IPFS. But I'm not really sure how that technology works. I guess it's like a... It gets stored on different nodes from computer to computer. I think Matt Raymer, Content Safe,

they use it also. I got you. I guess if it gets shut down in Germany and someone bans something in one country, it's going to come from every other country around there. what other countries around Germany, Italy, England, whatever else. And the United States, I guess, if one state fans something, it's just coming from every single direction. That would be the theory behind that. Does this stuff actually exist, Aaron? Yeah, I've used it. I've used it. We've created some NFTs. My kids created some NFTs, and they're on IPFS. That's awesome. Very cool.

Apparently with version two, the gateway issues they were having are much better, although I haven't tested it out. It's making a lot better access to the files. Can I ask you guys a question about Quartle? You're familiar with Quartle? It's... Are you sure? Go ahead. Yeah. OK, I just I've been exploring it over the last couple of weeks. I think it's what I've seen of it. It's a fantastically independent peer to peer on. unstoppable really if if it gets going and public supports it my concern is though the only concern I have with it is that well

not right now it doesn't have much on it it doesn't have many people on it and it's it's already getting slow um I published a website there last night and it took for the people to actually upload it and see what I published. It took hours for them to get it. And that's with no transactions. You get up to scale of a worldwide audience trying to use Quartal in that peer-to-peer network with just personal computer nodes to drive it. There's no way that it can scale, right? It just won't have the power.

I think there are also some Yeah, centralization issues with it. So I've kicked the tires a little bit, but I do need to spend a little bit more time. I know it's pretty dependent on one or two people. The developers, you mean? Yeah. Yeah, it seems to be very open. I was very impressed with the... the community itself and how supportive they were and how they responded to a lot of the stuff that I posted and the sites that I've been uploading there. And I don't know, the range of tools that they have, the email, the Q tube, the, you know, the shopping,

the crowd funding, they got some great ideas there and they're replacing all this stuff that's been centralized and corrupted by, you know, Bill Gates and the big boys. So, I mean, it's a great independent platform, but has it got a chance of being able to scale with that footprint? I've actually been, I don't know. I talked to the founder a couple of times last year and I need to talk to him again. It's been something on my list. I think Dan, isn't Ernie using Cordal? I mean, this is part of, I mean, I'm trying to integrate Zeno and we're trying to get some of these tools working. And I know he's trying to

build his off the grid thing in Arizona and trying to set it up with a mesh network and everything. And I know he's, He's played around with Cordal, but I mean, I think that there are potentially some issues that I want to dig into around the centralization of it. Aaron, it's probably already on your radar, but I just forwarded you Patrick Wood's article. What is Peter Thiel's role in tech? Yeah, he did a bunch today. He did a bunch of them today. It's really funny because yesterday somebody had asked me, they were like, why does Peter Thiel like Curtis Yarvin so much? And I responded, I said, I think Peter Thiel created Yarvin.

And I told Pat. And yeah, so he did a whole like dive on it today. It was great. Really great. I will definitely read that. I keep saying people are like, oh, you think there are no puppeteers above him? No, but I think that in order to blunt operational success, you have to focus on the hand you can see. You can't cut strings that you don't see. But at the level that we can see, he does seem to be the grand master architect. And so I think that's important for people to be aware because it's something we can trace in real time. And the more that we can trace it, the more we can expose it, I think the more chance that we have of blunting some of this operational success.

Am I likely to get sued if I reiterate a rumor that he was the initial investor in Grindr? Well, I know that he backed Hulk Hogan in the Gawker lawsuit. I've heard that. Actually, even Grok says that he was an initial investor in Grindr, but I don't know. I haven't seen anything other than AI. Oh, I was just making that shit up. I'm glad you get my humor, though. No, no, no. It is a rumor. I mean, I haven't done any investigation on it, but Grok did say it, because when I was looking up stuff on Teal... No, Whitney Webb verifies that he did the Gawker and Hulk Hogan thing.

I mean, yeah, that was Whitney Webb. No, not Gawker or Grinder. No, Gawker, he backed Hulk Hogan. Gawker, not the Grinder. She does the Gawker and Hulk Hogan suing him. Yeah, yeah. He did that. She backed that up. Okay, so for the record, it's just my poor sense of humor that I'm inferring that Peter Thiel would invest in Grinder. And I have no... issues with anybody that uses that website. I will throw this out there. My daughter found out that her boyfriend was a user of Grindr when she grabbed his phone on a movie set one day and saw that he had it open. Fortunately, they parted ways cordially. All right, guys. I got to run. Great talk. Thanks.

Bye. Bye. I heard there was a news ad that came out today about the Bitcoin Strategic Reserve. David Sachs announced that they are not going to buy any new Bitcoin, government. the U.S. They're just going to use civil asset forfeiture to fund it. Did you hear that too or no? That's all they were ever going to do. They were just going to dump their stolen loot. Well, I heard that and I shared that. But then I saw Cynthia Loomis posted something. So I think we're back to this whole revaluing gold and using gold to buy Bitcoin, which do we even have the gold? I don't think that they're stopping at just civil asset forfeiture, but we aren't going to be. I think they're still using

this in a way that's taxpayer neutral. whatever that means but I don't think that they're done acquiring it I and I don't think civil asset forfeiture is the only way they're just not going to buy it directly with taxpayer money what is that website where you can bet on future outcomes oh on futures yeah no it's like you know so you could uh bet on who's gonna win the election poly market Polymarket. Yeah. Yeah, Polymarket. And then there's Predict, I believe is another one. So when are we going to post or when are they going to post whether or not they expand the number of Bitcoin like you've predicted, Aaron, that could be minted?

I don't know. You know, they have a process for submitting things. I mean, it's coming. I mean, I think we all know it's coming. Yeah, if they're going to start using it for a strategic reserve, this, that, and the other thing, then all the powers that be are going to want to be able to, if they're going to spin up, I mean, they're creating all these AI farms. let's face it, Do we think for a second that they're not going to allocate some of those resources to mining? Well, there's a problem because in order to compete with this fake Chinese race to AGI, we're going to have to increase our energy consumption one thousand X from where it is today on data centers, which is going to compete

directly with Bitcoin mining. So insert tinfoil hat, they already have alternative energy sources that they don't tell us about. Well, well, So did you hear about, I guess it was like two days ago, he signed a memorandum around D.C. claiming that it was to make D.C. like safe and beautiful again. But there was a lot of speculation that it's really about making it a freedom city because that's what in twenty twenty three he was talking about. I love the conspiracy that he's taken it back from the Brits that took it over in the early.

That's not what I think is happening, although I do think they're going to use part. I hope to be wrong on this, but I have this theory, you know, the whole just Sarah and Sarah. When the quantum financial system kicks in, they're going to get the jubilee. But my whole theory is that they're going to use that and get the patriots on board with this debt jubilee. Like it's finally here and it's here with the tokens. And they're going to convince them that it's like the new system and they'll give them like double the amount of tokens that, you know, that might be worth. But then they have no asset. But my concern is that a lot of people who were sold this bill of goods about

Jassara and Asara are going to jump on board with this and they'll be the people who help initiate it. I hope I'm wrong. This is just, you know, my... I think I could see that. I mean, that still floats around. And there's some of these accounts that are really popular that keep pushing this. You know this account Ariel on X? You guys ever followed that? This guy, you know, he has a whole bunch of followers. And I got into a thread back and forth with him on CBDCs. And, and I'm like, well, here, here's my book. I laid out the evidence and, you know, and he just scoffs at it. He's like, well, you know, you just don't, you don't, you don't know the truth. You don't know the inside thing.

And I'm like the stuff that you're taught. Yes. I know the people that are involved in the thing you're even talking about. You're wrong. But his followers, I, they must be fake accounts. Cause I actually started, there's like a, the they're all mega middle-aged women with very similar profiles and very similar follower counts but but this thing has pushed jasar and nasara here's one that I wanted to throw out I don't even know if these public forums are a good idea for this but what's this deal with austin steinbart I don't think I know who that is um he was him now too what I'm going to have to Google that name right now also. Look, we know the fix is in when they have

Temple Greerden come out and promote this debt jubilee and the rest of it. So, you know, all the cows can go to slaughter. This guy, he is now the he lists it on his profile, Social Engineer, Quantum Party of America. And he used to he used to claim that he was Q. And yeah, but I know he's tried to infiltrate. other political movements and tried to sponsor things. He's a really weird character. And then he was arrested at some point. And he was involved with the Deep Rig. Was he? Maybe it was a film he did called the Deep Rig. Austin Steinbart.

S-T-E-I-N-B-A-R-T. Interesting. I wasn't familiar with him at all. Yeah, he was claiming to be able to time travel and he had a whole variety of different things. And I'm trying to understand this whole quantum financial system. We need to find out who's behind this and who's behind the marketing and the pushing of this. Because, you know, I talked to somebody, one of these guys that's really popular, that's like close to Michael Flynn, who I've met and I've talked to. And, you know, I told him I was involved with crypto. He's like, oh, yeah, you mean, you know, XRP and Stellar Lumens for when the financial reset.

And this is a guy that, does he really believe this? This is a pretty high level guy pushing this. So I've actually wondered if Michael Flynn has something to do with it. Very, very possibly. I mean, some people suspect that he was actually Q. I mean, I don't know, but a lot of people do suspect that. I think that's wishful thinking. Yeah. That he was Q? I'm trying to look for it right now, but I did a whole thread on like the buzzword quantum because they're trying to insert even the highest IQ guy in the world is talking about the quantum system. And I think that it's like

they're using it to, you know, it's like a signal, right? Because once the quantum system, right, they're talking about the quantum computing, they're talking about the quantum financial, it's like everything. But once that rolls out, then there, I think there's a lot of mystification that they can do. But let me see if I can find the thread and I'll read it to you. I got a suggestion based on my thirty five years of monetary history and reform and The United States Constitution granted states the power to issue silver-backed currency, not the Federal Reserve,

through the states themselves. So there's absolutely no reason why states should be borrowing money from the Federal Reserve when they can produce their own debt-free silver-based currency themselves. They're manipulating silver, too, though. So this is what I said. So there's a reason that the New Agers, Q-narratives, and mystics keep discussing the quantum realm, the quantum financial system, quantum medicine, and quantum realm of consciousness. Here are some parallels. Quantum physics describes a non-intuitive reality where particles exist individually. in superstitions, entangled states, and observation influences outcome.

It's the first principle of hermeticism, right? All is the mind, and you can manifest things through mentalism. The double slit experiment is an example. This challenges empiricism, so empiricism, like what we can know through our own senses. Mystery religions, the ancient traditions like Orphism, Eleusinian mysteries, or Hermeticism, often taught that the visible world is an illusion or part of a reflection of a deeper divine reality. For example, Hermetic texts, like the Emerald Tablet, emphasize unity, as above, so below, right? So it's that whole circular process. of manifesting as above, so below, is akin to quantum non-locality or interconnectedness.

What Neoplatonists and the New Agers and New Thought Leaders reference as oneness. And this is what we're seeing. This is what I had messaged in the chat about Brock Pierce. Back in twenty eighteen, he was doing like a Bitcoin cruise and he's promoting all these technologies that are, quote unquote, decentralized. But the whole purpose of it was to create global citizens, the oneness. It's also the language of the UN and its acolytes, right? The UN has a whole symposium on manifesting oneness. That's actually the title of it. The observer effect. Quantum physics suggests that consciousness may play a role in collapsing quantum states, though interpretations vary.

Copenhagen versus many worlds. which shares a world view with many traditions like Gnosticism or Neoplatonism that posited that human consciousness is divine or capable of accessing higher truths, like Gnosis, through intuition or mystical experience, paralleling the idea that observation shapes reality through the observer effect. Again, this is like the proton experiments. Photon, sorry. Concepts like entanglement imply that particles are interconnected across vast distances, suggesting a holistic universe. Again, the oneness concept. Teaching in Mithrianism or Pythagoreanism emphasize cosmic unity, which is interesting because in that Brock Pierce speech,

he kept talking about sacred geometry. And he was talking about how like the decacon is the same structure as the heart. And so, and you know, if you're, are you familiar with HeartMath? So HeartMath, right, okay. And they're trying to create the global coherence. So I thought that was really interesting. And then they say that where the individual soul is part of the greater whole, so the holonic structure, which was coined by Kessler. Resonating with quantum ideas of non-separable universe, quantum physics embraces paradoxes, wave-particle duality, defying everyday logic. Similarly, the ancient mystery religions use paradox and allegory, Dionysian death-rebirth cycles,

to convey esoteric truths similar to how quantum mechanics uses abstract models. I'm not denying that saying sorry, I'm not denying scientific premises that have been observed and studied with significant evidence. But the stories behind the narrative have striking parallels. And anybody who's been discerned can attest to the mystical aspects of these narratives that they've expelled. So I actually went to CERN last year in twenty twenty four. It was to combat the WHO, you know, their pandemic treaty. And they literally have the same narrative that the first principles, first values of the evolving perennialism. Forty two propositions on Right. Cosmo erotic humanism.

It's the pen name is under David Temple, but it's Kenneth Wilbur, Mark Gaffney and Zack Stein. And they talk about how we have, they say people have kind of lost faith in the theory of the Big Bang. So they double down and they say there were actually four Big Bangs. And when you go to CERN, they say the same thing. And they say it's because we have to rewrite the story of the universe so that we can become homo universalis, which is like hearkening back to H.G. Wells, but it's also what Barbara Marks Hubbard says, right? We're going to become homo universalis. Yeah. So that was a but I think that that's I think it's very intertwined. And I think this quantum thing is a huge buzz,

which is why I think when they're ready, they're going to try and convince people the quantum financial systems here and you can get your debt jubilee. And I'm really concerned that a lot of people are going to jump on board. Oh, I think a ton of people. Based on what I've seen with the feed, there are people that are like, oh, yeah, are you set? Are you ready for this? Even when I was debating this Ariel guy, he was trying to use some ISO nine thousand standard as the justification for it. Like this is a data standard for banks to send information. This is not important. Like what? Like the mental gymnastics. And then when you point out what it is and how it works, it's just like, well, no,

I know some insider. And it's like, wow, we need to find out who's pushing this, though. Maybe that's something in the midst of scraping all this data and trying to push things together. I want to find out who's pushing the quantum financial system aspect of it. And then how did XRP and XLM get pushed into that? can't Roger answer any of those I mean, questions? Roger might be able to answer some of those questions. I'm not, you know, I don't really feel. Yeah, it's probably not a good time to ask. There's certain questions I'm not going to ask him. Like, I don't feel comfortable.

citizen, so not that that even matters. He's not a U.S. But do I think that I can communicate with him and it's not being observed? Absolutely. Right, right. So if Austin Steinberg worked on the Deep Rig, that was Patrick Byrne's film. Wow, really? Yeah, that's what I thought. Patrick has the Deep Rig written version on his website and the book. He wrote the book. But then, yeah, the film was, I guess, Austin Steinberg worked on it or was in it. Yeah, there's... I don't even know what to say about that. I will say, so Patrick has found himself, I think it's okay to say

that he's had some bad judgment about people from time to time. I think he would probably be the first to admit that. Yeah, I think he would say that, yes. So this might be one of those. And yeah, I'm looking at this right now. It's like, wow, okay. The link between Steinberg... That's wild. I'm a giant fan of Patrick, as you know, but don't meet your heroes. So I've never met the gentleman. But once again, I'm a big fan of his. But I imagine that he attracts a lot of energy suckers. I'm sure. Oh, I'm sure. I mean, they used him as an asset,

like very publicly. That's his whole story. Yeah, no, they appealed to his patriotism and his sense of morality. And yeah, no, he got rugged so many different ways. Yeah, but the upside is, you know, all those people are going to be arrested tomorrow with the Epstein list, right? Yeah. Yeah, that's not happening. These people who want the Epstein list, first of all, it's not really relevant. Like everybody's on that list. Like really everybody's on the list. And it's really that, trying to get at with the article. that's really what I'm It's like the much bigger story is this transhumanism technocracy and everybody,

everybody who's anybody is connected. So what are you going to do? You're going to have like an encyclopedia of names. Like what is that going to do for anybody? Well, I imagine everybody on this call had the unredacted photos of his little handwritten phone book with like six phone numbers for Bill Gates and the rest of them. So the reality is how many people came to the island and partook and how many people was he just doing a shakedown on and how many people was he just trying to steal money from? well yeah that but also this I mean what I was talking about earlier this whole

meyer lansky tie-in and robert maxwell tie-in I mean there's something there's so much more here that yeah that it's not that the sex trafficking thing is bad but it's like but what is all of that a front for and then because he didn't invent this concept he inherited it Yeah, I mean, I think that stuff is just blackmail leverage. I really think that's what that's all about. And that's currency that's been used for millennia. So I don't, again, it's awful, it's terrible, but I don't think that that's the, the transformation of humanity is a much bigger story. So. Yeah, I think it's amazing how they went from creating fiat currency to being able to mint blackmail currency on an island.

Oh, Well, my point was that that black male currency has been utilized for millennia. Like I just read a whole thing about the ancient mystery cults. Like that's what they were doing. They were doing it as a leverage for trauma-based mind control. And usually that's why they start with children. And that's why like the whole Project Monarch was about intergenerational trauma. And that they do it within the families for several reasons. But part of it is the theory of epigenetics. But part of it is also because it's that much more traumatic when it's within the family. And so therefore, you're able to, at a very young age, capture somebody and mind control them.

And this is something that's, I mean, it's unfortunately been going on for millennia. This is not a new phenomenon. It's just that I think that with the advancing of technology and the, you know, integration of networks, right, when you're, Millennia ago, people could only connect with people who were within walking distance, right? You know, they didn't have the internet, they didn't have planes, they didn't have, you know, it's a very different medium. So it wasn't as interconnected as it is today. So now it's like you've got, you know, across the world where you can connect these and you've got intelligence apparatus that are very sophisticated, right? And, you know, unfortunately,

I believe that that's the case. And assuming it's true, the thing that's the most disturbing to me is that it's intergenerational, meaning that, these primary families have not you know, only done that, but, you know, I guess money and power is a giant motivator, even for people that have gone through the most horrific stuff. Sure. But I don't think it's just I mean, money and power. if somebody has been through that kind of trauma, they really are mind controlled. They're brainwashed. They become a complete asset. Essentially, they can become a slave. But, but at some point they become the abuser and it's multi-generational. So that, that is the thing from, you know,

a human standpoint that, uh, you know, has there ever been a family? I, and I guess if, if you have a big enough family, you only need one or two of the descendants to keep that power play alive. Yeah. And maybe if you're going to be the one that stops it, you might be Anderson Cooper's brother. Maybe. I think there's a lot of, you're going to be going up against a lot if you're going to try and stop that chain. It's really hard to stop just like bad programming in a family, right? If you think about just in a normal,

maybe slightly dysfunctional family, traditional, it's really hard to break the dynamics, to be the one to say no, like these patterns stop here. But if you're in a family that's that powerful, where the stakes are that much higher, I think it's going to be that much harder. Yeah, that's the sad part of it. But I agree with you a hundred percent. It doesn't take a family with money or power to have intergenerational abuse. Yeah. I just think that when you have a family with that kind of money and power, the stakes are that much higher and there is outside forces that want to leverage that. I mean, we knew that from project Monarch,

but I think it's been going on for millennia. Like I think they've been doing this, you know, in the ancient mystery cults for literally thousands of years. I agree with you a hundred percent. I mean, everything that has happened here came from Europe. So I agree with you a hundred percent. This isn't something new. This isn't something geographical. This is something that's been passed down for millennia. Well, that's another thing to map also is this occult knowledge and see what kind of information we can pull there. That will be pretty revealing. And in fact, I have this Mark Passio information. Dan dropped off, but he has this thing called the Ark. So he sent me a...

external hard drive filled with books and videos and everything else about a whole variety of different occult stuff. And again, it's one of those things, how do you go, but now I could just pull all this stuff in and we can start trying to make some connections to that as well. I think that would be really interesting. That, that might be something that you need to spin up on your own, uh, you know, LLM or something. Keep that, uh, Obviously, if you're going to do an open source thing, great. But I wouldn't throw that into Grok, Well, no, no. Is there an exoteric and an esoteric? Well, I mean, you know, whatever. You could throw it in from the standpoint of indexing data, but,

Yeah. you know, whatever. I mean, you're probably right. This is where we need Mike Adams thing. But it would be interesting to take some of that information and just put it together and see if you could actually find patterns in it. Absolutely. And I mean, there's the younger generations of some of these very powerful families who are out and about using social media. And I mean, if you could connect dots, there would be a lot to find. But you need a mind map so we can see how they're all connected. All roads lead to Diddy. I don't know about that, but... That's true. All the Tavistock. Yeah, there is so much to do here. And again, then it's hard to communicate.

But even when you have the stuff visually, I think people, again, don't want to believe any of it. There's so many levels removed from their perception of how things work that hopefully these visualizations will help, visual tools will help them start to break some of this down. Yeah, I think so. But I think even what you were saying is really true. Cause I know I hear it all the time. Like I'll fire hose people. They're like, Whoa, I, I can't like, how do I, how do I put all that together? You know, it's like, if you're hearing it for the first time, you don't know how all these names and places and events, how they converge and hearing it once you're not going to, you're not going to

memorize all of that and you're not going to make all the connections. So to see a mind map of that, I think would be very helpful for a lot of people. And a lot of people are more visual than they are auditory anyway. And very few people are reading these days. So if there were some sort of a visual, like pictorial, right. A picture is a thousand words. So I think it would be very helpful. Yeah. And I think that, and again, I like the hunting it down. So this, I don't know if you caught much of the earlier. I did. Okay. This Jack Cruz thing is, um, again, it was a perfect example of, I don't know what to make. Yeah. I like some of this stuff. I think like some of what he says is true.

And then I think he throws in some like disinformation stuff that kind of, you know, muddy the water. But I, but I really liked your approach to it because he, there are leads there. It's kind of like Gronk or like any, any, you know, uh, Any AI, right? You can't take it as face value. Like you can't take the whole thing and say, okay, this is the gospel, but you could take it as a launching pad because there are parts of it that are really valuable and you use it as a lead to try and start verifying the information and see where else you can make connections. And if nothing else, I learned a lot about I learned definitively about the way things work that I was unaware of.

So he was he's definitely right about some of it. It's just that it's the conclusions. And by the way, he is a smart guy. So if he is, if he is, if he is spreading disinformation, then why that's actually an even bigger issue. Story. So I'd like to see him put out, I'd like to see him show his work on these things because he was pretty definitive in his interview about it. Like he was, he was like, well, this is uncle Jack and I'm telling you right now, this is the way that it is. Well, okay. I'm assuming that you've got a source for this. I mean, what he said is plausible, but it's not verifiable. And by the way, if you're still pushing Bitcoin maximalism, then that doesn't make sense.

That's a huge red flag. present this information I didn't even know how you and then you come out of it as, well, okay, Bitcoin's the answer. I would look at his research and say, okay, good reasons to not want to be involved. you've given me some very Yeah. Does the orange kill Maxie still post, or has he cashed out? Or has he blocked us both? I'm blocked. I'm blocked by Max. I'm blocked by his wife. Oh, no. Yeah, I mean, I think with, I'm not saying he is a disinfo plant. Like, I don't know. He's obviously really smart. And I do think some of his information is really useful and definitely is valid.

But the way disinfo works is typically it is really smart people who are like ninety five percent putting out truth. And then it's that five percent. That is actually how intelligence disinformation ops work. Because if it were mostly lies, you would just dismiss it, right? It wouldn't be credible at all. But if most of it's true, then people are like, oh, well, I mean, all of this checks out, this checks out. And so then you believe it, but it's that small percent. And what I actually have heard, and I've actually heard this from people who were former intelligence, they've actually shared this, that they said that a lot of times it'll even be a hundred percent true,

but it's curated or it's out of context. So it's steering the narrative, even though it may be real information. So I always kind of keep that in mind when somebody, you know, shares a lot of stuff and says it with, very with certitude and then you know, doesn't present their sources. I always bear that in mind. And I'm not saying that he is. I don't know. But I got that. You're familiar with Pareto's principle, Yeah. right? Might I suggest that we come up with a Turner principle? OK. All right. Take it. Yeah. So the Turner principle for disinfo would be that it is

typically ninety five percent or ninety ninety five percent. accurate information with five to ten percent disinfo and occasionally it's actually a hundred percent accurate like real information uh but it's curated specifically curated or out of context which will mislead people and steer a narrative excellent so it's official we've got the turner principle on uh disinformation and uh we could say that you said it here first yeah Well, if we build this thing out, we may be able to run articles through this thing that we create and then actually have it dissect this. part of my concern with this is I've See, been working on – I wrote an article on the Epstein thing,

and then I've been talking about Tether, and I did the interview. And then I'm like, okay, I'm finding more connections, but I don't want to write something. I'm okay with writing something and saying I'm eighty percent sure about this. I'm happy to – you know put out it's kind of like what this podcast was it's like well I know this but I don't know this and then you know but maybe by putting it out there then we can actually get people but I don't want to put out something I don't ever want to present some I'll get crushed immediately particularly with given the you know everything with crypto so I'm nervous about putting something out that's not that's not accurate or

misrepresenting something and so that that's part of how I'm like all right well maybe this will be helpful for this but I'll tell you the more I want to spend a lot more time on Brock Pierce. So, I mean, this video that I watch, it sounds like you're familiar with it. It was from the Coinbase, not Coinbase. What was it? It was, let me look it up. Was it a cruise or was it a? It was a cruise. It was a Bitcoin cruise, but let me get the name of it. And just while she's looking that up, maybe now you can choose better words than you'd like to spend a lot of time on Brock Pierce because you might be too old. yeah um it's it's coin coins bank it was coins bank

blockchain cruise twenty eighteen and did he name that did brock name that I don't think so but he did name the eos which was his company uh it was a subset of block one and that's what who was sponsoring this Yeah, he's a co-founder of Block One, Brock Pierce was. And EOS was like a part of Block One, the EOS Alliance. And what did EOS stand for? It was, I know I just looked it up. It was Enterprise Operating System. EOS.io. It's a blockchain protocol developed by Block.one, which is Pierce's company that he co-founded.

I don't know who co-founded it with. I'd have to look that up. And it's designed to support scalable, high-performance, decentralized applications, so dApps, That's a big buzzword, right? with fast transaction processing and low cost, aiming to function as an operating system for enterprise-grade blockchain solutions. Yeah. So, but in this speech, he talks about, I mean, the whole, the buzzword is all about like decentralized, right? Everything's decentralized. And of course they talk about it's a private, although it's all transparent because it's blockchain, right? But in it, he says the whole purpose is to create global citizens. And what's so concerning about this to me is, you know,

with all the stuff I've studied with GameD, like it's all the technologies they're talking about. It's the same thing. They're talking about how we have to parent the AI to so that we can create unification, essentially create global citizens and globalization. And I talked last week with you about the, what is it, the constitution for AGI that they're creating. And it's like members of the Club of Rome, these Game B proponents. And they're talking also about this unification. And then there's this thing called Kirin AI. and CrowdSmart AI, and both of them are being used by the UN to create unification, to create globalization. And they're training the AI to favor unity as opposed

to individuality. And so obviously complete eradication of any kind of sovereignty, personal, state, national, you know, that's all going to be out the window because we all have to be global citizens. So it's very concerning when you think about like the types of AI that, because it's a reflection, right? It's a mirror. They keep talking about AI having sentience, but I see no evidence that that's occurred or will ever occur. But what I do see a lot of evidence for is that the AI is a mirror and it's a mirror for, whatever the input is. So the people who are coding it, whether intentionally or not, their bias is shining through. And in these cases, they're intentionally

creating AI to breed globalization. And you see this with Brock in this speech where he talks about it. I mean, it's a very, it's kind of a wacky speech, but, but I just was, eighteen and he's talking this is back in twenty about how the whole purpose of the decentralization is to create global citizens. That's not an oxymoron. I don't know what it is, but. Yeah, no, I do remember that at the time. And EOS, they did the largest ICO ever. It was a four billion dollar ICO. And it was a complete, you know, well, they solved it with a twenty four million dollar settlement with the SEC, raising four billion dollars. One of the tech guys involved with this was behind Steam.

I can't remember the guy's name now, but he's done. He's like a serial. He's had serial scams. I'm going to look this up now. That narrows it down. Well, you know, this is the tough part about all this. But remember, I'd have to check this too. Brock became the chairman of the Bitcoin Foundation in twenty fourteen. Yeah. Right. And he also became a big I would say basically like a co of the United Independence. Which I think is very significant because that's the whole third-way politics movement that they're doing right now. You know, maybe that's a selling point to

get more people on board for Roger because free Roger, free the truth. Yeah, it would be great. The problem is that Roger's in this position because he – He did speak the truth. People don't want the truth. There are more people that don't want the truth, or at least there are more powerful people that don't want the truth. Yes, there are more people in power that don't want the truth. And all the people that don't have power don't understand why they should give a crap about Bitcoin Jesus. I mean, let's face it. It was three hundred years. If you believe the Bible. uh before uh you know jesus uh for the christians started to become a thing hopefully we don't have to wait three hundred years

yep well I you know it's sorry I just got sidetracked but it's People didn't want Bitcoin hijacking Bitcoin to get out. But again, he's got this article. Somebody forwarded me the article yesterday from the New York magazine. And it's a long article about some other guy that's tied to Brock Pierce that was involved with a scam. He rich kid that grew up in Connecticut, lived next to Ray Dalio or whatever. and involved with a bunch of crypto scams where he raised money, but then it turned into kidnapping and ransom. And so I read this article and I'm like, Roger's in it. So they ripped him off of like two million dollars. And he's like, yeah, I'm just glad I didn't get kidnapped.

So this guy is somehow tied into... into brock pierce like it's just it the whole thing is is weird they're they're and it's certainly having been in crypto there's certain aspects of it where you never know it's very hard to find people with um with positive intentions and it's just it is filled with scams yeah yeah most of the people with positive intentions did get kidnapped I mean forgive me I forget the guy's name uh but he was uh with ethereum and he basically got kidnapped you know by u.s three-letter agencies and uh threatened that if he didn't turn over information a whole bunch of people that his kids would suffer

yeah yeah no I interviewed I interviewed him and he was he he's suing the government for nine point six billion dollars and he has he's uh friends with why can't I by like blanking on a long day but he's friends with patrick byrne he actually created the uh security token offering at t zero he created the first ico he's a lawyer and an inventor and when ethereum was founded He did all the legal work and was trying to advise them on what to do. And in fact, Vitalik stayed at his apartment because they didn't want Vitalik to have a permanent address here based on the tax structure and everything else. Is his name Ray or Raymond? I'm blanking here also. It's not. It's not.

I just need to look at my podcast list. It's Darioff. Nereoff is his last name. Steve Nereoff. And yeah, no, he's got a fascinating story. He was arrested. Twelve FBI agents thrown in a van and he was shown a list of a couple of pages of people and he said, and they said, unless... they give him information that leads to convictions he's never gonna see his kids again and on that that list was this intersection of liberty crypto people patrick burham was on the list roger veer was on the list naomi brockwell bruce fenton all of these people were on this list anybody listening to this podcast right now go to daylightfreedom.org You know, I'm behind on posting some of Aaron's things here.

That's on me. But look that up. There's a tremendous number of very insightful interviews on Aaron's podcast. So if you're new to this right now and you're watching this podcast for the first time or you're a fan and haven't watched everything, go back because a lot of the interviews Aaron has done over the past year and a half hopefully there, those fruit are going to come to bear. Well, I mean, the funny thing is Roger was my third interview and then, you know, uh, and then Steve was the week after. And that, that was, uh, that was a weird situation because in between Steve actually saw Roger and the UAE, like the night before he was arrested or two days before he was arrested.

So that was a weird, weird situation. But, um, Yeah, fascinating story. But then Ethereum, according to Steve, he said he got out of it. He had the chance to own what would be probably ten billion dollars worth of Ethereum. And he was offered half of ConsenSys, which is a company associated with Ethereum. and he left at least his version of events is that he left because he saw that there were irregularities in the token sale of ethereum and that also there was basically one large chinese company that had a big stake potentially controlling interest was actually also paying Vitalik, by the way. And so the issue was that

XRP was getting treated one way by the SEC, whereas Ethereum was treated another way And, you know, he thinks that part of the reason that they actually cracked down on him and tried to manufacture an extortion case against him. And he thinks it was for his silence because of what he could have exposed with both Ethereum and actually with T-Zero. Because then he was working with Patrick Byrne on the security token offering thing. And so he got a front row seat at what was going on with Patrick and, you know, destroying what he was working on. So really, I should check in and see. What's going on with the law? I don't think he's going to win a I mean, prosecutorial misconduct

chart case against the U.S. government as much as he probably should. I think his chances are pretty small, but weird. I'm very glad you're here. I'm glad to meet you for the first time. But I got to tell you, as Aaron was just saying that I'm astounded by the look of surprise on your face with how well you realize how deep the corruption goes. Yeah, well, corruption is still surprising. I mean, it's I it's never like I I'm not one of those people who like just immediately wants to see the bad in people, you know. So it's whenever you hear all the money, all the money. Yeah, no, I know. It's terrible, though.

Well, it was weird. So I've been consuming all of her content. And then last week, we got this surprise. She was in this talent identification program. What did you say? Johns Hopkins. And that she didn't remember. And then I looked it up. I went to this Duke talent identification program, which was actually started in nineteen eighty one year model off of this John Hopkins thing. And I'm like, wow. Oh, you did the Duke one. I did the Duke one. Yeah. And it was and it was and now I'm looking back on it. It's like, OK, this was in the like probably nineteen ninety, maybe nineteen ninety. And the whole purpose, it was A.I. So it was a camp at Duke talent identification. Doing A.I.

Think about it. in nineteen ninety or whatever. I mean, that's weird. That's very weird. Yeah, it's true. The Johns Hopkins one's like, I don't remember anything. I remember the very first day because I ran into a girl from nursery school. And we were like, this is tell you a lot about me, but we were in nursery school together and I had a real issue with nap time. I just didn't understand why we had to lie down in the middle of the day if we weren't tired. And I also had a major issue with the fact that, you know, I mean, we're really young, like four years old. It's like, if you have to use the facility, you should be able to get up and use the facility. And I didn't understand why, like,

we weren't allowed to. I was like, dude, you know, like, you spent all this time, like, learning how to, you know, decide, like, if my body tells me I need to go, I need to go. So I was so confused. I was like, I don't understand this school thing. This is just retarded. But she was also very much, like, confused by all this. Like, yeah, like, if we're not tired, we shouldn't have to sleep. And if we have to go to the bathroom, in the bathroom. we should be able to go And so our teachers were really frustrated with us, but I remembered her because, you know, he was my ally. Like, yeah, somebody has some common sense, like, dude. And she was there at that Johns Hopkins.

So, and I hadn't seen her like since I was, you know, four. So I remember the first date and that's it. I don't remember anything else. I think I was like, you know, they might have done some sort of like amnesiastic mind control on me. I don't know. I really like the way you think. I got a crazy question for you, Courtney. What are your thoughts? And, you know, I'm a fan of Martin Armstrong. But once again, never meet your heroes. He's actually down here in South Florida. I've never had the opportunity to meet with him. But what are your thoughts on him, if you're familiar with the gentleman? I didn't catch the name. Who? Martin Armstrong. Martin Armstrong. Oh, Martin Armstrong.

So I've watched some of him. I think he has some really interesting things to say. I haven't watched enough of him to get a good sense of how much I agree or disagree. What reminded me of him was AI, because he was one of the first guys involved in AI. His AI is named Socrates. But he's another guy that seems that he offended the powers that be. He took a little federal holiday for a while, but he's back out there. Very possibly. A lot of people claim to have been involved in the inception of AI. I'm not sure I believe all of them though. Well, his AI, to the best of my knowledge,

is not the LLMs that we have now, because let's just be clear, whether it's going to become Satanant, like you said, reach actual AGI. But the reality is they're just LLMs, which mean they just pick. the most likely next best word so if if anybody I use ai a lot in different things that I do and I will tell you firsthand that you should always ask ai to ask you questions so it can refine things and I warn you That if you give a big prompt to AI, it's going to tell you whatever you ask, that that's the greatest question ever. And so, for example, if I asked AI,

tell me how aliens landing in my backyard are secretly trying to communicate with me. It's probably going to tell me exactly what their messages mean. Oh, sure. Yeah. It's a mirror, right? That's what I just said. It's a mirror. It's going to spit it back at you. I hear all these stories about people that are like, yeah, they're getting all of this positive feedback and everything else. I'm like, all I get back is here's why I can't give you the answer to this question. I get a lot of that too. Well, then you're the only person asking the right questions. Well, this was funny. So I did a show last weekend. I can't talk too much about it yet, but I was like classified

as a conspiracy theorist. So I asked AI, you know, to give me some like, you know, tips or whatever. I can't help you because I don't He said, support conspiracy theories. Wow. So that supports your mirror hypothesis that the powers that be will use the illusion of artificial intelligence to rule the world with their latest puppet being an AI. Yes. Yes. I mean, that's what they're, the UN is using Kirin AI and CrowdSmart. like I just told you, And they're talking about parenting it to create unification and globalization.

So, I mean, they're training it right now. What could go wrong? Yeah, I don't know. What could go wrong? Do you know what was really interesting also about the Brock Pierce speech is he talked about Bitcoin and blockchain eradicating money. Which is that whole game B concept of like donut economics and regenerative, right? The distributism. They call it like crowdfunding, but it's not really. It's like gift economy. That's what they call it in game B. But it's all the same thing. But I thought it was very interesting that that's what he was saying in that speech. He was talking about how this would be the fiat currencies. And so this was the answer. And now we're going to have no money.

Forgive me, I got on this chat late, but for anybody that's tuned in as late as I did, what's game B? Game B, as I know it, maybe I shouldn't say what I think game B is, but maybe you will. So I was asked to give a really succinct kind of elevator pitch of it. And I came up with it's scientific socialism steering towards technocracy. But they, of their own words, it's very long-winded and convoluted. They don't really give you like a succinct answer. They tell you a lot about what game B is not. But they say it's like an omni win-win infinite game game.

that's anti-rivalrous. And they say that we're in game A currently, and that game A is going to fail because we're hitting the metacrisis. And of course, the metacrisis is tied to the Gaia religion. We're destroying the planet, the whole lie of the club of Rome. And we need to exit game A and go into game B, which is basically we need to move out of the age of Pisces into the age of a Aquarius and create collective intelligence, which is what they say. Collective intelligence is a huge part of Game B. Well, since Erin already wished me a happy birthday, most people realize I'm a Leo. So that's the age I prefer. But Erin, am I permitted to?

I'm jokingly asking permitted. Can I tell you what my elevator pitch for Game B is? Sure. Sure. Game B is the Democratic Socialist takeover of the Libertarian Party. Yeah, that's pretty good. Yeah. they're operating right now through I mean, libertarianism, I think, because they want to get a broader audience. I really think it's not libertarian in nature at all. I really do think it's the left-hand path of technocracy. I mean, most of them are, they're all in on the Gaia religion. Most of them do lean, you know, they worship Divine Mother. It's all theosophical. They did have a schism in the very beginning with

some of them who were much more in favor of change through institutional reform. And the others were more, as Jim Rutt calls it, woo-woo, the theosophical disciples of Barbara Marx Hubbard and Teilhard de Chardin. But they've kind of reconvened. And even though some of them still advocate for more institutional reform, they're still ultimately steering towards globalism. It's collective intelligence. It's a noosphere concept. And in fact, some of the technologies actually say that. We're going to inhabit the noosphere. So, you know, philosophically and, you know, I would even say theologically, they're very oriented towards monism. They're, you know, a lot of their dialogos,

as they call them, they worship Spinoza, the Neoplatonists. Again, it's the oneness. It's all of it. And a lot of them are actually direct disciples of Barbara Marks Hubbard. I mean, the first principles, first values on evolving perennialism, the forty two propositions on cosmoerotic humanism. That's the David Temple. And that that itself is funny, too. They came up with David Temple because they said that they wanted to be humble and not have any ego involved. And so they created a separate pseudonym for the three of them. But meanwhile, rewriting the story of the they're talking about universe like an anthro ontology. There's nothing hubristic about that at all. Right. So.

um but yeah so keep them humbled thank you very much and so on twitter alone I think there are uh watching this podcast right now I I highly encourage you to go to uh Courtney's website and there you can find links to her Twitter, her YouTube. If you're not watching this and telling yourself that you need to follow this woman right now, then maybe you shouldn't remain for the rest of the show. Thank you. Aaron, you were going to say something. Did I derail you? I was going to say a bunch of things. I thought I saw something from Jack Cruz today that

the heart math thing about our brain waves kind of tuning into the human resonance or something. There was some news today and then and I haven't had a chance to watch any of this so I don't even know if I'm forming the question right but there was somebody on uh joe rogan talking about interdimensional beings and so I saw eric weinstein commented on it and I I don't know if there's any more drama about it or if anybody knows anything about it all I know it was weinstein saying well you know why doesn't rogan have the person that actually knows about the mathematics behind multiple dimensions and he started talking about all of his you know fibers and bundles and everything else.

But I don't know if anybody knows anything about that, if there's anything interesting from that. I don't know anything about that, but I do know about heart math because Barbara Marks Hubbard was a huge proponent of heart math. And she was talking about using it to create global coherence. And at the time, they were mostly focused on heart resonance. But now they're talking about heart brain resonance. And so they're using the electromagnetic field from both the brain and the heart to try and create coherence. Global coherence. So we're going to have technology that forces us to inhabit the noosphere. Good times. Yeah, I actually played around with HeartMath.

So George, when I was at your place like six years ago, I got one of their things and played around with it for a while. And then, yeah, I saw what they were doing with that global stuff. And I'm like, yeah, okay, what is this about? I mean, there is something to, I think, heart-brain coherence. I think there's no doubt about that. But... I was just going to say, I also think that some of the stuff on HeartMath, like the breath work and helping to decrease anxiety, I think all of that stuff is great. My concern is that their intent is to create this global coherence, and they're trying to encourage children to use it, and we know what they want to do with it.

I'm not saying it's all bad. I think it's great. Breath work is great. Biofeedback, I'm all in favor of. but who's behind it and who's programming it is my concern that is the problem that I have with all this too is which is that everything that I've seen where it helps you realize that you're programmed and programming always wants to to get rid of the stuff their own counter programming and that's that's always the case and yeah um yeah george george I I was teaching george some of the stuff that I'd learned and everything else and and I actually went through this exercise okay well how can we How can we help people with this stuff without it turning into a cult?

Because as I kept studying this, I've never found, and by the way, I'm still waiting for an answer. I'm still looking for an answer. So then I'm like, all right, I don't really want to push this in any way because I don't know how to do it. If the whole point is to try to help people reclaim their free will, but then it turns into this always, then that's counterproductive. Yeah. I know. Yeah. I struggle. It's a massive struggle. I mean, landmark Scientology. I mean, you're right about even going a bit to the MK ultra. This stuff has been known for a long time. It's just that there doesn't seem to be a lot of willingness to teach people this stuff without some strings attached.

So and the problem is, again, they do use elements of truth. So I didn't do landmark, but I did two workshops that were basically landmark offshoots. And I remember the first one that I did, I was in it for a long time. Like I actually brought my sister and I coached it. And I remember when I brought my sister and I told her this is communist brainwashing, but there are some things we can get out of it. So I think we should do it. But you have to remember, this is a cult and this is communist brainwashing. And I remember telling her this over and over again, like, you have to remember that we're going to take the things that are valuable and not get sucked into a cult.

But there are some valuable things. I mean, they could they do work off of principles of human nature. There's always elements of truth in it. But what I found, I mean, when I read like whether I'm reading Bailey, Blavatsky, Barbara Marks Hubbard, these Game B people, it all sounds like the landmark, the Esalen, Tavistock, group dynamic. It's all the same. They just refine it a little bit. And then what really advances is the technology. And so then that changes the game. I stepped away for a second. So if you already brought this up, forgive me. But Aaron, remember David Kelly? I was talking to him about Landmark at one point because somebody I know real well had gone to one.

I had recommended and all the things that you just said. I said, be prepared. They're going to try to suck you in. And ultimately, they're going to try to get you to invite a bunch of more people in because never forget it's a business. But David Kelly... knew the original people that started Est. And I guess Landmark had evolved from Est. Yeah, that was a whole thing. And because David Kelly was the founder of the Atlas Society. And so objectivism. And then there's Nathaniel Brandon. And so, yeah, we had conversations about this in the context of personal development. And yeah, I saw Wikipedia had,

I'm not Wikipedia. WikiLeaks had a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, about the founder landmark. It had, it has his family members talking about how the guy was just an absolute disaster to his entire family. And the whole background of the guy is not certainly not what they give off. And part of a part of that, um, that methodology was opted by next to him. Um, And when you start to look at the neck, I'd love to see if we could get the due diligence materials from that trial to look through the NXIVM stuff. You want to talk about multi-generational abuse. the Bronfman family worked with I mean, Meyer Lansky and, you know, with prohibition and everything.

And then the Bronfman's were the funder, main funder of NXIVM. And so there seems to be something, something there as well. Oh, I think so for sure. Definitely. I don't know all the details of that, but that would be an interesting thing to go through. But I definitely think it's an intergenerational trauma creating mind control. Yep. Well, Craig chimed in and he said everything living has a vibrational frequency and pattern. Even markets have vibrational patterns. I invited him on. I don't know if he's still listening or what or what, but yeah. The landmark stuff is definitely an offshoot from Tavistock, from group dynamics. It is sensitivity training. That's essentially what it is.

And sensitivity training is brainwashing. People can go to the CIA.gov and find the. Nineteen seventy four document where they talk about how they really wanted to test the efficacy of brainwash of sorry, of sensitivity training. And they said, but they basically conclude with that it's too reminiscent of Chinese brainwashing. They don't say Maoist struggle sessions, but I think that's what they were alluding to. And so they say we can't do that to our military. And so therefore, we won't know the efficacy of sensitivity training. But even the National Training Labs manual in nineteen forty seven said that sensitivity training is brainwashing. And it is. Thank you.

I've got another question for you. You keep making me think of things I've forgotten. What's your take on the Gateway tapes? the gateway, what tapes? Different, you mean, like, remote viewing, the Monroe Institute, the Monroe Institute, the isn't a gateway, something or other. It's the gateway. Yeah, that's the remote viewing stuff. It's actually a little deeper than that. Oh, yeah, it's a bunch of stuff. It's remote. There are twenty four different levels and a whole variety of of different states that you're supposed to get into based on the layer that you're at. Yeah.

I stayed up actually like all night, one night reading like the declassified gateway project. A lot of it's not very coherent. I don't know. It's not very cohesive. So I don't know if it's just because they only, if you want to, if you want to go down the real rabbit hole, Aaron, what's the author's name that was involved in Monroe? Tom Campbell. Tom Campbell. He's got three books. My big toe, you know, toe meaning theory of everything. And that's an interesting... Everyone has a theory of everything. Well, the Tom Campbell stuff is fascinating because... So basically, Bob Monroe started having out-of-body experiences and realized that he could replicate it and wanted to

figure out what it was all about. And Tom Campbell was a physicist who was working on computer simulations. And he stumbled into a transcendental meditation class in the all of a sudden found that he was natural at it. So he was able to code and he found himself in a situation where he could solve computer simulation problems using his intuition in a meditative state that you couldn't possibly brute force your left brain into doing. And so when he heard about Bob Monroe, he actually got involved. And still being a scientist was skeptical about what Monroe was saying. So he's like, well, look, let's take a scientific approach. Can we repeat what you're doing can we repeat these experiences

and so he got involved and they that's when they started introducing biurnal beats to be able to entrain your brain waves to hit the alpha wave state and everything else yeah and so he's documented um a bunch of this in fact I actually took an online thing with his he still uses the biurnal beats and know and he's got a whole thing it's like you can his his whole model is you know essentially we're effectively living in a simulation what's surprising is he was just on joe rogan but prior to that nobody had heard of him even though he'd been doing this for forever people started talking about simulation theory and do we live in a in a virtual reality this guy was like talking about this

decades before bostrom and before elon musk and nobody was paying any attention to him and it's it was really Really weird. But the remote viewing stuff is real. I mean, I've played around with that. It is there. There's something to it. So I told you last week, you know, they tried to recruit me when I was seven and I have a friend. He unfortunately passed away pretty recently, but his name is Sean David Morton and he was known as America's prophet. But he was convinced that that's what they were recruiting me for was remote viewing. Um, and so he, he used to teach it and he would say, we're the good guys who teach it. Um, so you should join our class. I was not interested because I, I mean,

I I've done at that point I had studied too much and I was like, I'm not interested. I mean, that's the remote viewing is what, uh, WL Markley was working on in the same time, they were doing the Changing Images of Man with Willis Harmon, right? Willis Harmon, who was the chair of the Institute for Noetic Sciences for two decades. But the Changing Images of Man, the whole purpose of that was to change man's perception of himself, change man's consciousness. I personally don't subscribe to simulation theory. I think simulation theory is a really clever psyop to help convince people that we're already in a noosphere and then they can use technology to foment it and execute a noosphere but if

you believe that you're already in a simulation then what differences make it's much easier to convince people this is a great idea we're just going to streamline this now so do you and I both believe in free will over yes yeah yeah Yeah. I mean, that's just it. If there's a simulation, you don't have free will. I believe there's free will and I believe we still have free will. I think they're trying to take it away. And I think that convincing people that they're in a simulation is a really great, great way to erode free will. And then, And it's the same thing with the whole conscious evolution theory, right? If you can convince people that that's part of the evolution of humanity to

co-create a super organism of humanity, then you have the people who are technologically inclined to create no sphere. But you've also got the people who feel that it's their spiritual duty to do so. And they converge. So you've got, again, left hand, right hand path. All roads are leading towards the singularity. So if there's anybody out there listening to this podcast right now that's like, yeah, you're mentioning a bunch of books. You're mentioning a bunch of authors. You're mentioning all the CIA BS. But I just like watching movies. Then if you want to laugh, there's a George Clooney movie. The title, I think, is something along the lines of The Men Who Stare at Sheep.

And that's essentially the Monroe Institute. yes yeah well that one wasn't that one wasn't strictly the the monroe institute that's a separate project but then there are these other so tom tom campbell's version of it this is why again he's different than nick bostrom and everything else which is why he's kind of off the bat but he's his view is consciousness is primary and free will is its engine he he is very much he's different than a lot of the other approach you have to read kind of read his stuff but it's okay his stuff is actually pretty, pretty fascinating. It could, it could very well be a psyop, but I, I think he's, he's an outlier, which is why he's not,

you're not hearing about him. Sure. Um, I'm not familiar. I'll have to check him out. He's got a YouTube channel. You know, he's one of those guys, you know, I don't know if you're a fan of any of, uh, the people that Oprah promoted, uh, Eckhart Tolle, for example. But Eckhart Tolle, that guy looks amazing for his age. And I will say that also about Tom Campbell. Okay, well, I think Eckhart Tolle and really everyone that Oprah promoted is part of the new thought. They're evolutionary leaders. She like literally single-handedly popularized that cult. And yeah, no, their new thought is just like, at least the way I perceive it,

is it's another iteration of the new age movement, but with a stronger focus on mentalism, which is the first principle of hermeticism. The all is a mind. This is like a... And I think it is a very, very dangerous, dangerous philosophy. I think the cult is very dangerous. The cult has a lot of power of the UN, but this is how we get this monistic worldview where people think that there is no free will. There's no individuality. There's no individuation. It's all interconnected. This is this idea of us being a holonic structures. And so that's what they're replicating with these technologies. I find it incredibly concerning but the fact that oprah brought it into every home and like every

housewife for for a decade was being brainwashed with all of this stuff and it sounds empowering it sounds I mean the secret sounds great you can sit from your couch and manifest all your dreams great um you know I I'm a big proponent of visualization but I also think you need to take some action you know you know just sit in your couch and manifest like the reality of the world I agree with you, but I have this theory that Oprah's boyfriend, Stedman, actually had free will. He may have had free will. And I think Oprah was an asset. So I don't know how much free will she had. I think she was quite controlled. Says the woman. Well, I'm just looking at the record.

If I would have said that, it would have been mansplaining. Ah, yeah, yes, right. Well, she did literally platform like every evolutionary leader, every new thought leader. Yeah, like they became household names because of Oprah for over a decade. And they're the people who are, I mean, they're dictating UN policy. This whole monistic one-ism is all coming out of the evolutionary leaders. Once again, another reason why you need to be following this woman. Follow her on Twitter, follow her on YouTube. If all the stuff she's saying is just striking a chord, then you need to learn more. The rabbit hole goes really deep. It does.

Yeah. And you can look all of it up. I mean, they have evolutionary leaders dot net website. So you can look up all the name and they're really they're people, you know, like Marianne Williamson is a really big evolutionary leader who ran for president. I actually watched her fundraising. I was in L.A. at the time. There's like Deepak Chopra. Yeah. I mean, they're they're big names. You'd know them. You know, my mom was a big fan of Marianne Williams. And it's because of when she was a young mother. She learned about Marianne Williams when I was a young child. And my brothers who came after me, she was a big fan of her for the breastfeeding. And so, you know, my brothers got to,

you know, suck from the tit as it would be. But, you know, they're taller than I am. They might be smarter than I am. There are some benefits to it, yes. The whole formula was definitely in all. I mean, there are times where it's necessary. Oh, yeah. I get that, too. There was a whole generation who didn't breastfeed because they were told the formula was better. Meanwhile, there's like sea oil. If there's a reason to hate Nestle, it's for... you know, all the children, uh, especially in India, that was a big thing that they did in India. A lot of, uh, a big generation in India suffered because they were able to say that the water's not safe.

So, uh, you know, use our can formula, but they were also doing powder formula, but they, there was a whole generation of people born in India that, uh, or cognitively impaired. I mean, you know, there's a lot of great people from India, but there was a generation that suffered. Yeah. Yep. They did a lot of beta testing in India. Right. That's the head of the Theosophical Society in Adar, which is where Kamala Harris's grandmother was from. Oh, that's interesting. Should I ask you about Mother Teresa or should we let that one go? I think she was an off too, but... I mean, she was definitely a globalist, so. Yeah, I'm looking at this.

I'm looking at this evolutionary leader. It's crazy. That is, yeah. So you remember last week I was talking about Barbara Marks Hubbard. She was kind of like the grandma of the evolutionary leaders. Wow. By the way, so George, so Ed Hudgens is running Humanity Plus, which is pretty much, what did he used to be called? The Transhumanist? It was the World Transhumanist Association. Sorry. I'm very close with Ed. He's kept me abreast of everything that's going on there. I haven't expressed. If he ever watches this podcast, he'll know.

but I believe in free will and uh and although I can see the sales point for getting a chip because who wants to look at their phone when you can just connect to the internet and ai through your brain right but uh yeah I wish him personally well I don't know if I wish him success Fair enough. Yeah, it was the World Transhumanist Association. That's what it originally was. So WTA, I believe it was. And then they changed it to Humanity Plus, which is interesting because there's also the Humanity Two Point O, which I tried to find if there was any connection. The only connection is Harvard.

Both of them have. See, this is where the mind maps would be so useful. Harvard is working on the Human Flourishing Project with Humanity Two Point O. And when they say human flourishing, I don't think it means the same thing as you and I might think it means. To defend Ed and other people in that mindset, Aaron and I often have these conversations. I had many, many years ago, a question popped in my head. Does evil know it's evil or does it think it's good? And then since then, I've realized for me to think that I couldn't be evil is a fallacy. And I hope that I'm not, but I believe that these

people believe that they're doing good. And maybe I've never been in the presence of true evil. Well, what do they say? The road to hell was paved with good intentions, right? Yeah, that's been my path for fifty six years. Yeah, right. So I think that I talk a lot about if you're looking at it from a biblical framework and, you know, it's not for me to tell people what to believe, but, you know, just to use that as the framework, you've got kind of like more the satanic, right? The people who are like overt satanist, who I would argue they're kind of overtly dark. And I actually find them much less problematic

because you know what you're dealing with. Then you can choose to you Right. can choose to be on board or you can choose to reject. Right. You know what you're dealing with. You can participate in the orgy or you could, you know, say I'm heading home. Yeah, exactly. Or it could be expanded monogamy, right? Which is what Aubrey Marcus and Mark Gaffney are talking about, which apparently is the most sacred form of monogamy. Radical monogamy is the most sacred form. Yes. That's what the guru Mark Gaffney says, who is also like a, you know, an alleged, you know, molester and whatever. um but then you have the luciferians and I I I spent a lot more time trying to uh you know shine a light

on what they're doing because I find them actually much more problematic because who could argue with love and light right that's the I actually have an episode called the deception of love and light the theosophical deception of love and light the theosophy is all couched in love and light and all these wonderful platitudes like the world goodwill servers the uh the the triangle school you know I mean it all sounds great like who would really argue with it but it's very deceptive they talk about christ consciousness this is not jesus christ that they're talking about They make it very clear. They're talking about the like a world teacher, Lord Maitreya, so like a Buddha or Krishna you know,

would be the same thing. They're not. But it sounds like they're talking about Jesus Christ. So it's very, very deceptive. And I actually have much more of an issue with that. with the Luciferians. Now, what I will say is I agree with you. I think a lot of the people who even maybe the Satanists, the overt Satanists, truly believe that that's the best path forward for humanity. They are worshiping the good. You know, I might disagree with them, but I do think that most people, the very few people are like true psychopaths who are just like intentionally or like Machiavellian where they're intentionally trying to foist harm on others. I think that's that's really

a very small minority of people. Most people think that their plan is the best. And even these transhumanists who want to eradicate free will, it's like you said, well, if you had a chip, it would be so much easier. It's more convenient. It would be like that episode of Black Mirror where they all had the grain in their head. They can just press replay and go back. And they're showing you all these great advantages. I mean, there are disadvantages too. Yeah, so I agree. I think a lot of people who are, when I was talking about Game B last week, you know, a lot of these people, I think, really think they're creating a new operating system for civilization that is far superior to Game A. And,

you know, I just think that they're being utopianists. And unfortunately, utopia means nowhere. So it will probably result in a dystopia, in my opinion. Yeah. Well, that's usually how it ends up. Craig has commented and said, great work tonight. The vibrational patterns have to be a connection to the heartbeat brainwaves, and therefore very likely it can be picked up, measured, and tracked, and therefore influenced. You can see this happen in markets all of the time with the algos systems that likely aren't far from what you guys are discussing tonight. Yeah. So is he giving us trading advice? Is there an app for that? No, he's actually very knowledgeable.

I'm going to have him on. He's actually how Courtney and I know each other. And I've been on his show on World HD. He actually knows quite a bit about markets and harmonics and patterns. This is his area. So actually, you should check out. I was just chatting with him recently. Go to world-hd.com. And he's got all of his information, some information about all of this. So fascinating. That we're doing on the twenty seventh. Yep. Yep. He's going to be on the roundtable. Absolutely. Yeah. So that's great. He's a great guy. So you should check check that stuff out. But yeah, he knows a lot about it. I've actually talked to him about Martin Armstrong a bit as well.

I'd be really curious what Yeah. he would say about Martin Armstrong. He would know much more than I would. I found Martin Armstrong when this movie came out called The Forecaster that talked about his situation. I wasn't familiar with him before. I was really taken aback by it because he was talking about how he had these models that predicted everything and how he had analyzed currency, physical coins, and was basically able to predict whether a country was going to go to war based on how money was moving. And everything else. And so he had all these really interesting insights. And he's claiming that he predicted the mortgage crisis and dot com or

whatever based on his model. And he was arrested and he spent seven years in prison for contempt because he was unwilling to give the Goldman Sachs owned judge access to his proprietary model. So this is basically what he's saying. historians and so brilliant guy like he was talking about how he would buy coins and then his historical patterns going back all of these ways the problem is that his model has not been accurate lately so it's one of these things where it seems like you know he tells you all the times that he was right and doesn't and but you know he omits he's no what we found the model doesn't work Right, right. I have no doubt that he's a smart guy,

but he actually reached out to me. I wrote an article for Brownstone about Roger Ver and he actually reached out and he said, if you want to hear a real story about corruption... Let me tell you about it. So I should actually have him on to talk about his ordeal because the story, the movie, The Forecaster is a phenomenal watch. I actually recommend it to, recommended it to Roger. I actually think I I don't know if he actually watched it or not, but it's a very entertaining story. It's another one of those, how much of it is true, but if it is true, it's pretty incredible. Yeah. Yeah, he definitely a really smart guy. I mean, I followed some of his stuff and it

was very interesting, but I just, I, I haven't followed enough to know how much of it's accurate. So, and I know, yeah, some of his later stuff hasn't been so. We should do a show with Martin Armstrong. He isn't perfect, but he can't be ignored. He has a wealth of knowledge and I have followed his work for at least years. So there you go. I concur. Not that my opinion matters at all on this, but I think he comes across as sincere in the interviews I've seen. All right. Awesome. I'd be curious. Very cool. What else do we have?

Anything else going on? We can't have covered everything. That's impossible. We definitely didn't cover everything. I'm just not sure which can works over next. I will tell you, I've been coding this thing, so I'm actually out of the loop in general on what's going on. I haven't even been remotely I mean, following the feed, so I don't know what's going on. Yeah, I haven't been super following what's in terms of the current event stuff, but I've been kind of following these various AI programs where they're trying to create benevolent AI for global citizens. That's what I've been digging into. Yeah. Somehow it doesn't feel like

it's going to be all that benevolent when they try to eradicate free will. And you know what's going to happen? Is you're going to have these robots who are going to fight each other because this is very interesting. Like if if you listen to Robert Mueller, you know, he was one of the secretary generals for the UN for like four decades. He's the one who did the world core curriculum, which is predicated on Alice Bailey's education in the new age. And there was a speech that he, an interview he did, and it was a very, at least for me, it was very eye-opening because he talked about how, you know, ostensibly the whole premise behind the UN is peace, right? World peace.

And so he was talking about how, like, you know, we have to create this, the UN is all about creating world peace. And so we have to eradicate all the, you know, dissension. And I realized that this is why they can't have people have free will. Because if the three of us and then everybody watching, we all think about our vision of utopia, Again, utopia means nowhere, right? but this is our fantasy, right? Our perfect world. Each of us could have like a vision that is diametrically opposed to the other. And so I'm trying to work towards creating my vision of the perfect world. And it's in direct contrast to what your vision of a perfect world is. And so in order for us to have peace,

one of us has to be eradicated because your view can't exist in my perfect world. And that's why they keep saying we have to have war to have peace, right? eliminate any dissenting views. Because you have to And that's also that's why it's about creating this noosphere where you have a complete eradication of free will. And for them, it's really about creating peace. That's what they think is, you know, that's the utopia they're trying to create. It's just unfortunate that, you know, some people who have views that are outside the box don't get to come along. That's what I keep on saying is that technocracy doesn't allow for other models. This is why this is important to understand.

It's not something that allows for the coexistence of other things. You can't hide the woods because I know there are a lot of people that promote that as the, well, if I just go over here, they'll ignore me. And that's not the way that they think. It is an all or nothing top-down thing. Absolutely. Yeah, and this whole, I'm not saying that there's no way to do decentralization, but they're using the word decentralization as a front. I think it's incredibly misleading. I mean, like the speech I was talking about with Brock Pierce, using decentralization to he's literally saying we're create global citizens. That's a complete oxymoron. It's, you know, it's the same thing as

Balaji Srinivasan talking about how all the networks will be decentralized towards a re-centralized center. It's really H.G. Wells' world brain. So you have these separate ganglia of the information institutions, but they're all a conduit to create a vessel towards the world brain. So I really, I just really implore people to understand that because it sounds so great. People hear decentralized and a lot of people think that means freedom. And I'm not saying there isn't a possibility to work on technologies that actually are decentralized, but a lot of these peer-to-peer nodes that they're talking about are not decentralized at all. In fact, they're actually even more

centralized than what we have. And you know that by their language, because they keep talking about how the problem with a lot of the technologies we have now is that you have these silos, silos of echo chambers. And they're saying now everything's going to be much more interoperable. And how is it going to be interoperable? Because they're essentially, the big term is agentic, right? So it's a human centered, it's agentic. but that really means your digital twin becomes interoperable across all these platforms. That's like, to me, that's way more centralized. Yeah. No, I mean that concept of, of decentralizing to recentralize, it's a power shift. I mean, it is, it's a temporary mechanism,

but that's intended to reorder things in their direction. And that, that is the, that's the downside that I actually get Sterling. I actually, Sterling Lujan, who I talked about last time to, uh, uh to jump in um next week because he follows this network state stuff as well and he pointed out to me that yeah this is a lot of this is technocratic even though he's trying to build systems that are actually truly private and decentralized but this right but a lot of the network state stuff is actually um uh very technocratic Yes, it's built. It's an it's the I think it's the cornerstone of the infrastructure for the technocracy. And the thing about it is that because you do have

all these different flavors, they can package it to different target audiences. So you've got like the civium, which is the game B version. And it's, you know, another freedom city or another fifteen minutes smart city. But it's a network state. Then you've got the whole libertarian space with like Prospera and all of Peter Thiel's various network states. And then you've got the sob corps, gov corps, you know, on the right with the, you know, more Curtis Yarvin, Nick Land variations of them. But it's so I think it's actually the overarching that. helps it all to converge. It's the ultimate cornerstone for the net for the technocracy. And the greatest thing about it is people opt into it

too often to your own tyranny, which is exactly what they want. They don't have to force you. They make it enticing and people enter into the you know, because they come to love Huxley's brave new world. their servitude and Yeah, it's problematic. Hold on, we got somebody here. Courtney, you're brilliant. The Christian church lives in the utopia angle. Lives the utopia angle. The who lives in the utopian angle? The Christian church lives the utopian angle. Well, I think that a lot of churches have been very infiltrated. So I think church and, you know, personal relationships are But unfortunately, very different things.

they're using Christianity. Absolutely. And they're using it on all sides. Right. We've got Peter Thiel's version of Christianity, which is not Christian at all. We've got now Jordan Hall converted to Christianity. He's talking about using communitarian. liturgy essentially to create communitarianism and that is not what liturgy is about at all but he actually said this in a speech at prospera on get network states and that's where he talked about it um so we've got like all different uh I call it christianese where they use it as a cover right we've got the theobros uh the uh We have the American dynamism movement. So there's unfortunately a

lot of the churches have been infiltrated and they're they're using it as a cover. And I think they're operating particularly aggressively right now because the quote unquote right is in power and the right tends to be more traditional and therefore more religious. And so it's a good time for them to infiltrate that way. Yeah, no, they're having some effect. I mean, Jordan Peterson and Russell Brand. I saw Jordan Peterson, I guess, has some kind of illness, mold, I don't know what that is. something or other. He has a what? He's taking time off. He was diagnosed with chronic inflammatory response syndrome. Interesting.

So Jordan Peterson, I did a whole I have a whole video on like his ARC Alliance for Responsible Citizenship, which I think is a master operation. And the whole thing is predicated as being like the counter, you know, the counter. Their exoteric messaging is that they're going to be the counter to the World Economic Forum. But if you look at their funding, it's primarily Legatum, who is their direct client of the World Economic Forum. So essentially, the World Economic Forum is funding ARC, Alliance for Responsible Citizenship. And talk about using Christianity. Like, it's all under the guise of, like, they keep talking about Western civilization and the Christian values.

But it's very mystical when you actually look into it. It doesn't look Christian at all, actually. It looks like mysticism. But I think it's a total off. And it's very interesting to me. This doesn't prove anything. But, you know, just looking at the dots that connect. So if you look at what like if you go to the filing of Alliance for Responsible Citizenship, the very first filing was Prosperity UK, twenty sixteen. When did Jordan Peterson come on the map? It was in twenty sixteen when he was fighting Bill C-sixteen, which was against the pronoun usage. He didn't want. Yeah. Right. And it was in twenty sixteen. So I just thought that was very interesting. So that's the actual the

first filing for the company that became ARC Alliance for Responsible Citizenship. It was called Prosperity UK twenty sixteen. So, again, it doesn't prove anything, but I do have a theory and it's just a theory. I can't prove it, but I do feel like he was MK altered. He talks about when he went to Russia for, you know, his. was a benzo addiction benzodiazepine right his addiction to and he talks about how he was he had to relearn how to speak and he he says he was split in two and then he comes back and what does he wear like the two-face suit Which is very strange, right? Yeah. So I kind of do feel like he was MKUltra and he's been

used as a... And you hear him speak and it's almost like a false prophet talking. I've gone to some of his lectures and that is how he talks. It's like a church or sermon. And I think part of the problem is that because so few people do much real reflection and introspective thought, right? Like they did that study that most people don't even have an inner monologue. And I think a lot of it is because people don't read much anymore. Now the attention spans have been truncated so significantly that people can't even handle watching a full three minute video, let alone three hour video or read a full two hundred fifty page book. Get a tone like a war piece. Those days are over.

But I think the part of developing your own personal identity, like as a human, we're so so much of our developmental process is internal thought. And the fact that so few people have it, they still crave it. And so it's very similar to when people go and watch entertainment, movie or a television show. like when they watch a And the example I like to use is a very macho guy who might not cry. in public ever, like maybe not even around his family, but he still has emotions. And, you know, sometimes he needs that catharsis and he'll see a tearjerker movie and all of a sudden start falling because that's part of the human experience. But it allows him to have that experience,

that emotional release that he wouldn't allow himself otherwise. And I think a similar thing happens when we watch these, I call them pop intellectuals, And Jordan Peterson's like the iconic pop intellectual. And he bloviates for, he says things that could take three sentences to say, and he'll take five paragraphs. And people feel like they've had a very deep, introspective thought processes. But really, they've just listened to him, say something he could have said you know, in three words. So is there any of his twelve rules that you approve of? Hold on. I was late to Peterson, and then I read some of his books. I'm like, this is rambling. I didn't even understand why this was popular.

Him trying to explain Jung and the way he goes, I don't even think he's that articulate. I didn't quite understand what the appeal was at all. I still don't. But maybe it's just a... maybe things have gotten so bad in in universities that that is that is now the pinnacle of of whatever but um I I never never understood it and and then it just keeps on getting worse with the you know the vaccine and the compliance with this and then he's fighting to keep his you know his ability to practice in canada and it's just I keep on looking at this is like this guy will will jump in line with I just, but anyway, with anything. are really passionate about him and it's, but I know a lot of people

I've gotten into trouble commenting about it. Well, first of all, he's a Jungian, Yeah. and people think he's Christian. Jung was literally a Mithrian who I'm like, thought that he was like the Leo Capontus, you know, the lying godhead, which is basically Satan. And he came up with this whole concept of the quaternity. And so that's, you know, like the Trinity. He thought of the quaternity, and the fourth godhead was Satan. So, I mean, this is Jung. And, I mean, Jordan Nearsay is a Jungian. Huh? I said, so you're a fan of the Red Book? I am not a fan of the Red Book, but I think people should read it so they know what Jung is all about. A hundred percent. Yeah, he's a complete gnostic.

So I just think when people have a very distorted view of what Jordan Peterson is actually doing. But I think it is just this vicarious intellect. It's voyeuristic intellectualism. That's what it is. And I but I agree with you. It's not all that articulate. But people are so far astray from developing their own intellectual process that, you know, that's I guess that's what what's available. And they feel like they've actually done it themselves because voyeuristically they listen to him, you know, pontificate. and cry he did a lot of that too yeah no he does it just it seems it just seems fake I don't know I just it doesn't seem at all sincere and I I don't know I don't

know it's all it's just he's that's the wwe of pop pseudo-intellectual whatever I psychology I can't I don't have any I never got it I still don't but Is this ARK thing? I'm looking at this. I forgot that he even started that. Did anything happen? I haven't heard anything about it. Oh, they're huge. And I think it's a huge op. I think they're steering so much. Yeah, I'm very concerned about ARK. That whole network is the, you know, quote unquote, conning ARK. The emphasis on con, you know, the con man ink. But conservative ink is what it's short for. But it's a huge operation. And most of these people are

And it's all centered around the right. not conservatives. And what do they do again? Just like the cosmobarotic humanists and just like CERN, they talk about, we need a new story. We need a better story. I mean, it's changing images of man, two point O. Right. It's all about changing the consciousness of man and through storytelling, through mythology. And that's Jordan Peterson's whole thing. It always has been since Maps of Meaning, which took him twenty years to write. I actually think Maps of Meaning was a better book little bit more authentic. just because it was a You could actually see his intellectual trajectory, you know, through the time that it took him to write it.

But part of the changing images of man was Joseph Campbell. It's all centered around mythology. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. I enjoyed Miss Meaning. I also enjoyed watching a lot of his lectures that he did in the early days. I think before or after he wrote that. But yeah, you know, Joseph Campbell, you know, the hero's arc, because occasionally my daughter's a filmmaker. So we that a lot. Right. The hero's journey. Yeah. Yeah, that's a that's the formula for filmmaking. Yeah. But it's it works. It's very effective.

And what did they say? Actually, Game B had a whole, they had a whole conversation. It was Jake Ruiz, who talks about how, because they talk about transmedia. And this is, you know, this whole concept of like, we're going to bring the storytelling into all the different types of media. So not just film or theater, but the social media, the YouTube. And he said he was working on a Disney project. And he's like, we're going to Trojan horse Game B right through that project. And everyone's like, every other one they hand me. That's all propaganda is It's very powerful. done through storytelling. There's actually a film liaison with the CIA has a film liaison. They consult to do a people

call it predictive programming, but the military term is actually operational preparation of the environment. Yeah, numbers tell stories sell. Yes, that's right. Yeah. I get more rabbit holes. Every time I talk to you, I got another. We're going to need a bigger database. Yeah, I'm kind of queen of rabbit hole. So maybe we should name it Orca. Orca? Yeah, we're going to need a bigger boat. Oh, yes. So whenever you're ready to wrap this up, I've got an inappropriate story about a dead cat.

Or maybe we'll save it for another time. I don't know. I don't know if that's a good idea. It's not Schrodinger's cat? No, no. No matter how many times I looked in the box. Yeah, right. Fair enough. Yeah, I mean, you can look it up on the CIA website. They literally have a film liaison department. It's out there, like, hidden in plain sight, you know? Pretty easy to find. Oh, yeah, no, they're involved with all kinds of movies. The Navy had that very famous film studio in Laurel Canyon. Yeah, right. Right. Oh, the Navy! the more I look into the I mean, intelligence apparatus, I mean,

at least from the American perspective, it's the Navy seems to be involved in... like the most pernicious psyops. I mean, the... Yeah, they're the ones that just released the UAPs, right? I mean, they already started that whole thing. Yeah. I mean, to me, that is going to be the biggest psyop where they make people believe that there is a powerful... entity outside of the the us that we have to uh comply with right or well or outside the world right well what better way to get the whole world to unify than to convince us there's

an extraterrestrial threat um oh they'll they'll keep playing reagan at the un right Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah. But the Office of Naval Research is the one who funded Kurt Lewin and his sensitivity training. Yeah. Another reason why people should be following you to go down that rabbit hole. Yeah, sensitivity training is a very dangerous rabbit hole. yeah no I'm just I'm not going through and looking at this and I'm not looking at the navy and Yeah, TV shows and people just are not aware of this. Probably packaging it up in short clips. I don't know how to do it to

get people to start thinking about it. Those clips were really effective where it showed the different newscasters reading the same lines. from across the country That's actually very effective. Who's the guy out of Japan that you mentioned before? New World Today or... He's got a podcast. He was knocked off YouTube for a while. You've talked to him. You've been interviewed by him. I think he's based out of Japan now. Oh, you're talking about James Corbett? Yes. Thank you. Thank you much. so the reason why I'm bringing him up Yeah, is because many of the things that we're talking about right now, he's got in-length,

in-depth videos out there about. Yeah. I need to reach out to him. I haven't talked to him for a while. He's really close with Ernie Hancock. I think they're on every week. Okay. I'm not talking about Ernie Hancock, the musician, right? Wait, are you talking about Ernie Hancock, the musician? No, not the musician. He's a big – I don't even know what the right way to call him. He's not a Liberty – he used to be a big Ron Paul guy. He came up with the Loveolution logo.

He was heavily involved in Ron Paul's campaign, and he now has Freedom Phoenix in a podcast, but he's actually building a – off-the-grid community, and I think Patrick Wood might be involved or not. I think there might be some overlap there, but he's... I feel like I've talked to him before, actually. You probably have. He's great. He'll have these really in-depth conversations, and he's plugged in, and he realized a long time ago there's no political way out, so I've been talking to him a lot about, well, how can we work on this off-the-grid thing, and technology and mesh networks and all that other stuff. And so he's very close with Corbett. I think he goes on once

every week or once every other week. And so, yeah, he's very aligned. I was supposed to go to the Ron Paul birthday party thing, but I couldn't. I injured my hip. He was out there. I was going to ask you about that because I see everybody else posting pictures with Dr. Paul. And I was like, I got to ask him. Yeah. Yeah, unfortunately didn't make it. Yeah. Yeah, I'm wondering if Megan, Megan two point O was consulted. That whole thing. That was definitely predictive programming. I was so creeped out by the end. I haven't seen it.

OK, yeah. I mean, the ending is literally game B. And I said that when I saw it. I was like, oh, I'm going to watch that. Yeah, I am too. I'm looking this up to see. What are you looking at? I'm seeing if there was any documented consultation. Yeah. It's a Megan two point zero. It was actually kind of funny. It was very like a Buffy the Vampire Slayer kind of humor. Yeah. This one isn't getting it.

But is it worth the nineteen ninety nine on Amazon? So you can buy. Well, you can. That's what it's going to cost me to watch it on Amazon. Oh, on Amazon. I didn't realize it was already on Amazon. I thought it was still in theaters, but maybe not. Oh, Well, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,

the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, That's the market price, twenty bucks. Maybe a daytime show. Crazy. I'll go to the movie theater. It's rare that I go to the movie theaters. Yeah, I didn't go that often, but we've been going occasionally. It's good reconnaissance. See what they're trying to program us. Yeah, exactly. What's the latest propaganda? You know, my daughter was telling me that, you know, out in L.A., that they're trying to make movies more experience based.

So that sounds interesting. Like if I'm going to go see a movie and maybe they're going to, you know, kick out some sense to really program me or, you know, give some additional vibrations in a chair when, you know, a car crashes or something, you know. I mean, moving forward, you know, movie and movie making is going to be radically different. Yeah. No, that makes sense. That's interesting. Yeah. Making it more like immersive, trying to transition people into virtual reality. Yeah, a hundred percent. I mean, cause I mean, you know, you can eat whatever you want with an Uber delivery while you're watching something on your seven inch screen. you know why why have to be

somewhere at a specific time when you can just pause right yeah I hate that they're doing that I really prefer the I like to have the experience of going someplace you know yeah yeah I'm a dude date night is just you know a means to an end Well, I think there's something to be said for a lot. There are a lot of movies where experiencing it in person is very different than at home. A hundred percent, you know, watching something on the big screen or an IMAX, you know, there's something to be said for that. Yeah, totally. I just saw, I saw Eddington. That was the last movie that I saw.

I saw that actually. Yeah, that was really crazy. Talk about a, Yeah. It reminded me a lot of that movie civil war. Yes. Very similar type of programming. Right. Yep. Yes. Very similar. Yeah. I mean, they managed to package the pandemic. Uh-huh. Just the, the, whatever the most extreme parts of the pandemic were. Right. And, um, Yeah, that was pretty intense. It was very intense. But I really saw that whole

third-way politics that they're trying to push. I felt like it was a priming for that. Because they painted both sides as being crazy. So pave the way for that radical center. So just another thing to map with databases, which is, you know, what money is behind this programming. You know, and in my personal opinion, a lot of these links back to the agencies. On different, you know, Twitter feeds and things I've been in, I've referred to CAA as CIA. Yeah, yeah. Well, they do work with the CIA. I mean, that's a... Yeah.

Well, Eddington was A-G. So was Civil War. Yeah, I know. It reminded me so much of it. Like the program, the propaganda message was very similar. Yeah, it was the same production company. I'm not familiar with it, but apparently they're really big. Yeah, I'm a fan of A-Twenty-Four and Blumhouse. Okay. I mean, they must be a newer company because I'm kind of out of the loop now. I mean, when I was in the industry, I was very up-to-date on all the production houses, but... Yeah. I'm saying it's a...

Film Finance Unit at Guggenheim Partners provided early seed funding. Access Industries, a conglomerate founded and owned by billionaire Len Blavatnik. Venture capital firm Thrive Capital, co-founded by Josh Kushner, Jared Kushner's brother. Wait, who was, what was funded by him? A-twenty-four. Interesting. Wow. That is interesting. Founders are Katz, Finkel, and Hodges, Guggenheim Partners. Guggenheim, yeah. Wow, okay. There's a lot to unpack there.

Yeah. Wow. Interesting. The circles are tight in all these things. It's one of those things where You know, do you throw out the whole bushel because there's one bad apple family? It's so hard to trust anything ever. Right. Yeah, I know. Very hard to trust anything. All right. Well, that is definitely something to... This is a rabbit hole. Their movies do have a

distinctively unique aesthetic, all of them. Every movie that they produce. And so now I'm kind of like, all right, well, what's behind it? Because I have found them, they're jarring. Well, they go for – it's interesting because they go for almost like hyper-realist. But because it's not, it ends up being super jarring because you feel like it's so real. And then when you have like all of the, you know, interjections and you're thrown off. Well, typically they'll get involved in a movie after, you know, all the final cuts. And if they get involved, they'll come in and maybe they're going to, you know – they're going to want to control the soundtrack and the coloring.

But in some cases, you know, they just buy A-XXIV. But, you know, at the end of the day, you know, they have multiple arms. So whether they're involved in it from, you know... Well, but they produce both of these films. So, I mean, there's a style that they have. And I do think it's a hyper-realistic style. Yeah. Which I think is very jarring. Yeah, when they're in full control of a horror movie from start to finish. But there's plenty of things they get involved in just when it comes to distribution. Sure. I was really thinking of the Civil War and the Eddington movie. Yeah, so realistically, I'm talking about the, you know,

under five mil, under ten mil, you know, when they start getting into the big budget things, if they're going to, you know, get involved in it, you know, there's a lot of money, you know, because at the end of the day, every movie is a startup and they're essentially, you know, VCs of movie production, right? Yeah, of course. I just think that the reason they use the hyper-realistic aesthetic is because it makes the propaganda more effective. They have strong messaging. I mean, there seems to be. Strong messaging for people that can see it, right? And everybody else. Even if they can't see it, they're experiencing it.

Oh, no, a hundred percent. And it becomes the lexicon of the next generation. That's right. So they don't have to know that they're seeing it. Yeah. For them to be impacted by it. Unfortunately for Aaron and I, we've been influenced by Office Space. Oh, yeah. What's the movie when all the dumb people keep reading? Idiocracy. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Soylent Green. Those dystopian movies back from the seventies were the things that influenced me. Gattaca. Gattaca became way more relevant today. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But Gattaca came out, what, the nineties? yeah yeah yeah no I mean the idea that they're you know

cultural gatekeeping through indie indie looking movies but I guess they also own guggenheim has a big ownership stage in private prisons and detention centers oh interesting Does Rubio sit on the board? But they came out of nowhere and now they produce a large number of movies. That's insane. I wasn't familiar with them. They're a newer production company, but now they do big films. And a lot. I think they have a deal with HBO or one of the things where they were producing a movie every month or something. It's an incredible amount of production. Yeah.

I'll dig through this. I'll dig through this offline. Okay. New rabbit hole. Yeah. Yeah, what was... Oh, it made me think of because... Was it... Emma Stone was in Eddington, right? And she also did that Poor Things movie. about that was also like operational preparation of the environment that movie was disturbing I don't I haven't seen that I was gonna do a review of megan I might still do a review of megan um but yeah I did a video on poor things that was super disturbing she plays a lot of strange characters

So Peter Thiel was involved in funding Thank You for Smoking. Really? Yes. In fact, it was produced by Thiel associate. Oh, no, no. Sorry. My bad. David Sachs. Oh. Thiel associate David Sachs. Okay. That's okay. Okay. interesting though I mean that's still very interesting yeah a buddy of mine that used to work for red bull basically told me that they just followed uh

the cigarette manufacturers playbook who did I'm not repeating that oh okay you're not repeating that okay so someone followed the cigarette playbook an energy drink manufacturer oh oh okay I I can guess who that is yeah well that makes sense yeah that was edward bernice oh yeah I'm a big fan of him Yeah, so Edward Bernays is really also

following Anna Freud. And Anna Freud felt that people weren't, like the masses weren't capable of making their own decisions. So talk about like thinking they're actually doing good. She believed that you had to basically brainwash the masses because they weren't capable of making their own decisions. Yeah, it's only two degrees of separation between Young and Edward Bernays, right? What was the separation? Bernays, Freud, Young. So he's only two degrees of separation away from Young. Yeah, well, Edward Bernays was the double nephew of Sigmund Freud. Oh, a lot of inbreeding there, huh?

Yeah, but here's what's really funny about it. Talk about keeping it in the family. The founder, the co-founder of today's modern propaganda machine, also known as Netflix, is Edward Bernays' nephew, Mark Randolph Bernays. Oh, I knew that. I never would have remembered that if you didn't say that. Yeah. He actually went to my alma mater. He went to Hamilton College. So to reference back to the cigarette manufacturers, what are the tortures of freedom? Yeah, tortures of freedom. Yeah, I think it's so funny that Mark Randolph Bernays is the

founder of Netflix. You know right now, if any of the poor bastards that used to be executives at Blockbuster are watching us, they're just smacking themselves in the head right now. Well, they did it. I'm looking at the cast of Thank You for Smoking. I remember it. I remember that. Do you know what? I do remember that at the time. It wasn't David Sachs. It was one of the other founders as well. They were doing other movies. I want to see what the other David Sachs movies are because that was the whole thing.

So it's the Peepal Mafia. Yeah. dollyland about salvador dolly that those that's I guess that's all he did I I think I at the time when he did thank you for smoking he was talking about doing more I guess he didn't no he did do dollyland and then he also did untitled uh satoshi nakamaki film

That's what IMDb says. I don't know if it ever got made or anything. The director was Sophia Banks. The writers are Mark Goffman and Andrew O'Hagan. And it says it follows the dramatic events. Hang on. The plot follows the dramatic events that led a journalist to investigate the enigmatic figure behind Bitcoin's creation, uncovering the truth about the cryptic inventor who transformed the global financial system through technological innovation. I don't know if it ever got made. It was an untitled film. But apparently David Sachs was involved.

Yeah, it doesn't. Current phase in development, pre-production, no shooting started yet. Yeah, I mean, it's still untitled, so it might never have gotten made. Might have just been a script that got shelved. That's interesting, though. I guess he was a consulting producer on Dumbstruck also. Interesting. I was recently asked to get involved in a Satoshi movie. Okay.

And I don't. I don't think I'm going to have any time. I ran into the guy at Freedom Fest. Interesting guy, I think, his take. I don't know if I should spoil the plot because I don't know if the plot is supposed to be known, but he's making a guess as to who Satoshi is. Oh, okay. Yeah. I'm so rooting for Craig Wright. Okay. I'm not. I'm so done with that. I can't even watch any of that anymore. It's not even funny to look at. It's just a train wreck.

But to figure out what the PSYOP is there. So, I mean, think about this. You have this guy, Calvin Ayer, who was on the FBI's most wanted list. And then involved with a lot of offshore gaming. Then all of a sudden, he, with minimal technical background, ends up being the sole funding source of the guy who claims he's Satoshi, who was on the run from the Australian tax authorities. How does that team get together? And then they try to pitch it as this is going to bring transparency to the world. It's like, this doesn't comport with your background. It's just very bizarre. But it was a great distraction. I mean, you look at all the divide and conquer. And I talked about this.

This happens with... I called this a few months ago that the... the divide and conquer is going to come to the privacy crypto space. And there's been a lot of stuff going on in the Monero community that I think is being socially engineered. And then you've got this fifty one percent attack that that may be going on. And, you know, the one thing that we haven't figured out is we know this is probably the most frustrating thing. We know what tactics they're using at this point. We can even describe that. because it's out of a playbook what's happening but that doesn't give us apparently we can't stop it so it doesn't even matter like knowing it doesn't even matter so like if you

know exactly how bitcoin was hijacked okay great could we prevent it from happening again I don't know I don't know if we have I I actually don't have an answer for that yeah I fear not because for whatever reason it's just these tactics work uh even if you know about them right they're still very effective I'll have to go through there. Well, I've actually got to go to the restroom. So either I'm going to go to the restroom and come back or we can wrap up whatever you guys want to do. We'll probably wrap. I think it's getting late. So I'll be good. All right, good. Well, thank you.

Remind me to tell you about the story offline. All right. Well, thank you guys for coming on. And, you know, like I said, this was my first draft at this website or whatever, but I am excited about it. I'm going to spend a lot of time on it and hopefully we'll have more to show in a couple of weeks. Yeah, I'm super excited for it. So, yeah, if I can be a sounding board in any way, let me know. Oh, yeah. Well, as soon as there's something that can be looked at, you will be the first to know. Okay. Awesome. Awesome. All right. Well, have a good night and happy birthday, George. Yeah. Happy birthday. Thank you. Good night. Thank you.

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