S2E32: Trump's Sovereign Fund EXPOSED

I woke up to silence But the war had begun They froze my account Said I'd done something wrong Wasn't no crime Just living free Now the system Got a chain on me They took my savings My future,

my land With a single cold line and a government hand Said it was safety Said it was green But all I see is tyranny behind the screen This ain't innovation It's a trap in disguise We watched all your lies. Genius ain't freedom. Creality ain't clear.

It's a cage they built while we cheered. I believed in the truth. But the same old swamp just changed its brand He banned the front door, opened the back Signed the bills that launched a fire

This ain't innovation It's a trap in disguise You'll own nothing Be watched all your life Genes ain't freedom It's a case they build while we chill Your gold, your guns, your voice,

your name They'll digitize it all then shift the blame Palantirizing AI chains Freedom dying slow in patriotic flames This ain't about safety It's control in disguise With your ID, your face, your tears, your time They wrapped it in stars, sold it with pride But freedom's bleeding out From the inside

DEFCON won And they call it peace But I still got breath I still believe We can break the code, escape the scheme Turn this nightmare back into a dream Whose fingerprint is on the cold? Whose breath inside the mold?

A billion dollar prayer answered in a Petri dish. Tell me, is that heaven? Or just a hostage with a halo? Blueprints signed by ghosts in suits, white coats, offshore loot. Epstein Island, Santa Fe, secret pay, recruit the youth. Gamey code and mantra, chant of conscious evolution. Metamask for technocrats who harvest data like communion. Noah's fear surveillance, tell our dreams in server racks. Pierce and teal bankroll to stack, AI gods on proxy tracks. They weaponize redemption, Code of spirit, keep the shell, edit sins with crisper pens. rewrite the meek to fit their ends. Ghost in the genome, code on the throne.

Rule tomorrow when the seeds not our own. Pray in the data, kneel to the screen. Creepy! Devils they serve. Swapping our doubt for dopamine. Selling a scound reserve. Anti-rivalrous. Sermons match the prophet.

lost in an nft traded for service labs upload the conscience auction the flesh legislate death through a silicone mesh run that test bet your breath who's your god when the cold out lives your chest though If the future's a marketplace and the souls aren't clearance, remember,

a bargain with a ghost still costs you your breath. Mmm, who's holding the mic on me?

They call it free, but honey that fee ain't free Three suits in a smoky room riding what's real on cue Cronkite moon, they told the noon said, that's the truth to you. Mockingbirds and satin ties, singing what power buys. Change the page, same stage, and the chorus never dies. Turn down the glow, I feel the pull, if they own the show. Whoa!

Rise in a sugar sky. If truth don't trend, it never gets told. Speak all you want if the reach is sold. The ads.

To an empty hole Your loudest thunder That are the beat-bop danger to our demo craze

They said it's We don't bow We don't break We don't give what they can take We don't bow We don't break We don't give what they can take Roger stood with fire in his hand We went built a haven on free land Roman wrote the code they fear the most Now they're ghosts in the machine they

boast They dress it up as law and order But it chains across the border We don't.

We are told, we don't bow, we don't break We owe fourteen, oh six, seven A law that kills the hope we're given Every cage they try to build Will break

when voices won't be still Roger, we will stand for you We will fight it through Your code will run

We won't do what we are told We we don't break We don't give what they don't bow, can take A twenty-five year scam Dressed up in light They sold you freedom But caged you in night Love's invention Congress never signed that fiction From Goodwin's lie to the scam's new fame Politicians now baptize the flame RV next week pulls you deeper

inside Every promise a chain you can't untie Pay to play, the auctions are like pieces vanished Systems fade, same con, new suit Same con, new suit Coinbase paid the gavel drop Kraken bowed, the charges stopped Gemini's millions,

Greece For money in the family's hand TV castles built on sand Genes Act, the backdoor keys, twenty-seven trillion under watchful eyes,

no CBDCs, a hollow please, surveillance dressed in a new disguise. Pay to play the auction. They sell you freedom, but deliver chains. Different scale, same remains.

welcome back to The Aaron Day Show. All right, This is season two, episode thirty-one. This should be an interesting episode for sure. This is an episode I wish I didn't have to do. And I'll get into why as we get through this a little bit more. But before that, I will kind of walk through the last do some housekeeping before we tee couple of episodes, everything up for today. I encourage you to check out the last episode with Craig Blankowitz entitled The Illusion of Free Speech. This was a pretty in-depth analysis of what's going on with alt media and social media in general. I think there's this belief that we now I mean, have free speech because of the election

somehow or Elon Musk. And when you watch that video, you'll find I break through what's going on. Seventy percent of the traffic is fake. They're bots. The algorithms are completely manipulated to manipulate your limbic system to create fear, to create rage, it's rage baiting. It's not a public square. It's certainly not a public square when you have people that deploy psychologists to figure out how to manipulate you to drive more traffic, to drive more stickiness, and to create division. So that is not a public square by any stretch of the imagination, but also talk about the fact that these so-called free speech platforms like Rumble

and others are often owned by or have significant investments by sitting presidents, vice presidents, and people in political power. Or for instance, our assistant FBI director, Dan Bongino, is a shareholder in Rumble and Parler. I mean, I think, you know, it's funny to me that nobody points this stuff out, given that if this were on the left, if you had an FBI director as an investor in a social media company and it was you had somebody from the left in the administration, people would be you'd see memes about it all the time. And so I've pointed out the ownership structure of. Rumble and True Social and now TikTok. And I encourage you to take a look at this because we really need to start

switching to alternative platforms and we need to start acknowledging what is going on with the so-called free speech platforms that we have today. The podcast before that was really important and I encourage everyone to watch it. It was profoundly shadow banned and yet I think it's actually one of the most important podcast that I've done simply because it has a lot of implications moving forward, which I'll discuss. I think Curtis Yarvin is probably one of the most influential people in American and possibly global politics today. And what he has been outwardly pushing is the idea that America needs a monarchy or a CEO in charge, someone with, in fact,

he's even spoken on behalf of the proposition that America needs a dictator. as opposed to a democracy, which of course, strictly speaking, we're supposed to have a constitutional But nevertheless, republic. this idea has really taken hold. Yarvin has influenced Peter Thiel, J.D. Vance, Elon Musk. And I think, you know, a lot of his ideas are actually driving what's going on right now. And you may look at the government right now and say, oh, America's broken. It needs to be fixed. maybe we need this kind of strong You know, leadership. But when you really track it down and understand what's motivating it, it's an interim step to technocracy. So I encourage you to watch that episode,

to share that episode, because I guess I'll talk about it now. I'm convinced that essentially what's going on right now is that whether it's manufactured or not, crises like Charlie Kirk, or now the fact that apparently NATO has declared war on Russia, whatever the main event of the day is what you're noticing is a movement towards the consolidation of power in the executive branch and an increase in surveillance and so this is part of why i believe that this entire thing when you watch this episode is designed to accumulate power even including things like the sovereign wealth fund which the us is trying to

start and so then position jd vance as president in which will be a bridge to technocracy so this is just a theory that i have but i am going to in subsequent podcasts start examining and testing whether this idea and this theory i have stands up based on what's going on politically and with respect to these technocratic organizations i encourage you to check out the aaron day show I should be live streaming. There are some issues going on, so hopefully those will be resolved in the background. If not, moving forward, I'm going to be live streaming directly through my own website so that I don't have to be dependent upon these other platforms. I'm certainly going to continue to

broadcast to multiple platforms, but I'm already seeing the writing on the wall. What I'm experiencing right now is eerily reminiscent of when I started doing podcasts, encouraging people to switch to decentralized media, warning people in advance that they're going to try to censor information about COVID. And I immediately got shadow banned. This is happening again. So while there may be pockets of things that you can talk about now that you couldn't talk about before, note that whatever the current tyranny that's being pushed, that is always the subject that's being shadow banned. So it's always fine to talk about something in the past, that happened under a different

administration or where there were political enemies or even business enemies of the people that currently own the platform involved. But once you start talking about the active plans that are going on in real time, that is when you start to see the silencing in a pretty significant way. As I've mentioned, I'm in the process between now and the end of this month, really, at the Brownstone event, My plan is to, um, to launch five websites. I mean, I've already launched many of these. Um, but I'm going to show you, I'm going to launch, I'm announcing one today, which is that I've redone the daylight

freedom. website. So if you take a look at that, it's a it's a complete refresh, completely redesigned from the ground up. And this is really the the big wrapper for all of the initiatives. And so this site is essentially going to showcase all of the things that we're working on and all of the different websites. This is where you can always reach me. This is where my email address is. And then it will largely link off to other websites. And so it has some archives like the Fast for Roger Ver. There's a page here on the ongoing victims of Biden's crypto lawfare. So this is where you can see information about and link to pages for Roger Ian and Roman Storm.

And there will be others. I think I might add some things like links and banners that you can download to link to their sites and so forth. And so this is going to be daylight freedom will be where my efforts to help defend our political prisoners, which I expect is going to actually expand, not shut off. This is going to be the place for that. You can also support daylight freedom here. I'm not going to do this. I haven't actually officially raised any This is technically a money. So contributions are tax deductible. We don't have any salaries. We don't have rent. Any money that we raise goes directly to program costs. And right now, we don't have a bank account.

We have no plans to have a bank And so the only currency we take account. right now is xeno and xeno related tokens so you can contribute to the daylight freedom foundation using xeno freedom dollar btc x which is bitcoin that has been however you want to call it bridged through confidential layer and ethereum x and so i've actually built this entire donation interface and i'm going to go through all the details of that but that's that's what's happened there and then there's a a contact page so this is going to remain a simple clean site but this is kind of a portal because to be honest when i go to an event somebody says how do i reach you it's one of these

things where it's like okay great which website which email address so the whole point is let's make this the one-stop shop where you can stay on top of everything that's that's going on so we have the air day show.com daylight freedom ownnothing.org, which is the site that I'm building that will allow you to analyze click wrap contracts and see how many rights you've given up, which is pretty substantial, by the way. We also have freedomforge.io, which is a website where you can learn about all things xeno it will have online guides that free information on how to get involved with xeno and it's also designed to be kind

of an incubator and a collection point for people that want to build projects on xeno there will be a lot more about that in the weeks to come but i mean at this point as i've said you know many times i think that the solution to technocracy and the centralized tokenization of everything is to create privacy alternatives that are self-custody. And the reason I'm passionate about Zeno is because I think it's the best platform for that. It's not the only platform. I'm not a maxi in that regard, but this is, I think, our best shot. And I want to do everything that I can to help promote it, to build on it myself, and to help connect people that also are interested in building a private,

decentralized future. So let's see, so we have that. And then we have, I'm building a technocracy, kind of an open source version of Palantir so that we can track the technocrats. And so that'll be the last site that I launch at the end of next month, because it's the most difficult. I've already started it and prototyped it, but I figured I'm gonna improve and sharpen my skills before I fully tackle that one. As far as events, for right now, because I'm doing the podcast twice a week and I'm doing a lot of writing and a lot of coding, a lot of building, we're not doing as many events. The next event we have is the Brownstone

Annual Conference, October thirty first through November the first in Salt Lake City. I do recommend all Brownstone events. They are They're awesome events. The people are great. It's a reflection of Jeffrey Tucker and his personality. It is all things Jeffrey Tucker, which is terrific. So these events are really focused on, I'd say, truth, beauty, and freedom, I guess, if I had to describe the vibe for these things. And so I hope you check it out. I don't know if there are tickets left. And then I didn't have time even to put it on here, but it looks like we're going back to Mineratopia again. So I'll get details on that and if there's any discount code or anything. This is a great event.

I love what Doug and his wife, Sunita, are doing with Mineratopia. This is why we partnered with them at Porkfest. This event is February the twelfth through the fifteenth in Mexico City. It's actually an awesome venue. If you haven't been to Mexico City, I recommend it. And I think it's really well. They did a great job selecting the venue. It's a phenomenal experience. So more on that coming. So as we move into the topic tonight, just to if you're new here, I want to remind you that or introduce you to the fact that everything that I'm doing is built around the concept that we're really in a war right now. And the war isn't what people think. Although, as I checked the feed today,

I guess NATO's just declared war on Russia. So I guess maybe there's actually another war going on. But to me, the broader war is actually technocracy versus freedom. There's really a global movement to create a government where elites pick scientists and engineers to essentially make all of our decisions for us on a top-down basis. And so to me, that is really an assault on free will itself. So the war to me is technocracy versus freedom. And I think tokenization is the battleground. So in essence, what they're doing is with things like the Genius Act and centralized stable coins, they're basically tokenizing money. Soon they're going to be tokenizing our stocks. our bonds, commodities,

all of our investment instruments. And they're going to do so in a way where they can program these things or shut them off or even censor them altogether. And that's how we get to this place where we own nothing. That's how you get to a technocracy. The groundwork has already been laid and now they're in the process of actively legally, implementing the technology side of it. This is why I think that it's important to start immediately building parallel systems on Zeno so that you can have private alternatives. You can tokenize and trade any asset without third parties and without anyone being able to see the individual transactions. And so in this technocracy versus freedom

war, I'm focusing on three areas, alerting people to what technocracy is. Most people don't know what technocracy is and they confuse it with, for instance, just technology. trying to help promote the idea that, you know, we have free will and we are, and unless we're aware of it and conscious of it, we're being programmed by outside parties, whether it's media, politics, education, other institutions. And the single best way out of this is to reclaim our free will and to start taking control of our own thoughts, actions, and emotions. And then lastly is to build the decentralized alternatives. So usually on these podcasts, I like to spend a little bit of time in each of these areas.

I'm not going to spend a lot of time on technocracy tonight, but I do have two quick updates that I think further the idea that technocracy is really what's going on here and that what's happening isn't just this thing It's about technocrats jockeying for about nation states. global power. So just today, a couple of hours ago, I saw this. Microsoft terminates Israeli military access to its technology after uncovering mass civilian surveillance system violating its terms. So there you go, apparently the government of Israel didn't read the click wrap agreement that they had with Microsoft. And so now their military's gonna lose access to technology. And so this just shows you who's actually

in charge here. are the governments in charge or the Is it, technocrats in charge? You know, presumably if your tech vendor can shut off your information systems for your military, they tend to have a lot of power in this particular situation. Another development, close to home here in the United States is that Elon Musk's grok was just cleared for use across all US government agencies. So as I've said before, okay, somebody says it needs to be louder. All right, I'm turning it up. Is that hopefully that's better. So, you know, people thought that Doge was all about cost savings. I warn people, In advance, Musk is a technocrat. He's explicitly stated it.

He stated he's for UBI. He stated he's for energy credits. He stated three times that he wants a technocracy on Mars. His grandfather was the head of the Canadian Technocracy Party. When he formed the America's Party, which he then abandoned, the platform was based on technocracy, the application of AI to the military, the application of the AI to the rest of government. People like, oh, wow, he invested all of this money to help Trump to save Western civilization. it's probably a pretty good deal. Well, no, I'm going to guess he's going to probably make a return on his investment by having Grok implemented across all U.S. government departments. And so please don't be fooled by

propaganda and marketing. Follow the money. and look at the technology and follow the information. If you follow the information flows and the money flows, you can understand what's going on. Everything else, frankly, is BS. This week, we had our second technocracy roundtable with Courtney Turner, Patrick Wood, myself, and Craig. The topic of discussion was sovereign wealth funds and robotics. I encourage you to check that out. It's available on multiple platforms. Just go to Courtney Turner's Substack, YouTube channel, X, and I believe it's also maybe on Spotify, Apple Music, and so forth. Really enjoy doing these. These are very important. And the next roundtable we're going to do,

which is, I believe, September the twenty second at six p.m. And I'll obviously give more details as this gets closer. We're going to be talking about artificial intelligence and its application to health, which is a big topic. And I think you might be alarmed to see how AI is being utilized in that regard. So for tonight's topic, I guess let me set the stage here. Hold on, let me find my notes on this. Tonight's topic is one that I was hoping to not have to do at all. And while I'm looking for this,

I will let you know how this even came about. we do a lot of conferences and a lot of speaking engagements all over the place my wife and i who by the way will be joining later in the q a section so that's very excited about that hopefully hopefully she'll be on here a lot more but i've been attending these as i'm doing these workshops you know i will talk about technocracy and then i'll start talking about privacy coins and and building parallel systems and uh what has happened recently is that more and more people have been coming up to me saying oh are you an xrp are

you an xlm are you in ripple or stellar lumens and i'm like okay what is all the interest in this what is the demand in this and and then they tell me well i heard about the quantum financial reset and all this other stuff and so i've heard about this and so i you know i I wish I didn't have to do this Now, again, but more and more people are buying into episode, what is essentially a Q-level PSYOP. And when I say Q-level, I actually think it might even be an extension of Q. So, I mean, I've spent years exposing the technocratic control grid, the WEF's digital ID schemes, UN Agenda, Twenty Thirty, CVDCs and now backdoor CVDCs.

We've shown how to build alternatives with Zeno. And now we face something more insidious. And so while we're fighting real threats from Davos and D.C., millions of people are falling for a different trap and one that leads to the exact same destination, but through a path paved with false hope instead of fear. And so people who understand the who see the control grid being built, technocratic threat, who know we need to act, but have been neutralized by a psychological operation so effective it makes them celebrate their own enslavement. People believe their debts will magically disappear. They think alien medical beds will cure cancer. They're convinced a secret military

alliance is about to implement a quantum financial system that will make them rich. They're waiting for Nasara. They're waiting for Jasara. They're waiting for the quantum financial system. And while they wait, they do nothing. This isn't random. This is Q-two-point-oh, or maybe Q was Nasara-two-point-oh. since this scam predates QAnon by seventeen years. It's the same structure, the same promise, the same results, complete inaction while real chains are forged. So let me be crystal clear about what Nasara actually is. It started as a legitimate economic reform proposal by Harvey Barnard in the nineteen nineties. It never passed. It was never even introduced to Congress.

Then in two thousand, a woman calling herself Dove of Oneness her real name, Cheyenne Goodwin, stole the concept and then claimed Congress secretly passed it. And she said it would have been announced on September the eleventh, two thousand one at ten a.m. And when the towers fell, she had her excuse. The prosperity funds were destroyed. It would be announced next week, she said. That was twenty four years ago and people are still waiting for next week. The scam evolved. Nassar became Jisara, a global economic reset. Then the quantum financial system emerged, a complete fantasy that exploits public misunderstanding of quantum computing. Then medbeds appear,

literally stolen from Star Trek episodes. And now elected officials in Arizona are attending QFS quantum financial system summits, giving political credibility to organized crimes. So far, the FBI reports, three point three billion lost to pig butchering scams in twenty twenty three alone, and many used the Nasara narratives to groom victims. Phil Godlewski, a convicted felon, has over a million subscribers paying for, quote, insider intel. Charlie Ward sells QFS manuals. Simon Parks runs Global Connecting Consciousness Network. They're making millions while their victims lose everything. But here's what makes me sick. The false hope PSYOP is the perfect

companion to the real financial enslavement happening right now. While people wait for Nassar to erase their debts, the Genius Act is creating backdoor CBDCs through stablecoins. While they believe XRP is the chosen currency for quantum system, Trump's launching meme coins with Chinese nationals as the largest holder. While they dream of med beds, real healthcare becomes increasingly unaffordable. The cruelest part, both the technocrats and the scammers target the same people. Those desperate for economic relief, drowning in debt, searching for any escape from financial prison. One side says you'll own nothing and be happy. The other says you'll own everything next week.

Both keep you passive. Both keep you waiting. Both lead to slavery. We have to call this out, not because we enjoy debunking fantasies, but because every person waiting for Nasara is a person not building real alternatives. Every dollar sent to these grifters is a dollar not invested in actual parallel economies. Every moment spent believing in quantum financial systems is a moment not spent understanding how Zeno or other privacy tools actually work. The BBC called it the financial fantasy ruining lives. Bellingcat traced its connection to QAnon. Jordan Sather exposed the entire network. Yet it still grows because desperation makes people vulnerable to anyone offering hope,

even false hope that keeps them paralyzed. So, yes, we're doing this episode. We're naming names. We're showing receipts. We're exposing every grifter, every false promise, every red flag, because the war isn't just against CBDCs and digital IDs and social credit scores. It's against anything that prevents you from taking real action to preserve your freedom. The technocrats want you surveilled and controlled. The Nassar scammers want you passive and broke. We want you free, active, and building. That's why this episode matters. That's why we have to expose both the jackboot and the siren saw. Your freedom depends on seeing through both deceptions. So that's kind of the intro for this.

And I have some videos that I'm going to play that, I mean, I've got to be honest, I kind of became demoralized researching this and watching these videos. I've actually watched some of these videos I watched some of these videos about before. Jassar and Nassar ten plus years ago and realized it was a scam. long before xrp and xlm were introduced to this now a lot of these same people believing that there's going to be a debt jubilee that all the debt is going to be wiped out there's going to be a completely new financial system built on tokenization that's tied to gold and silver using xlp and xr uh xlm these same people believed a lot of them that

and and not only believed it, but more frighteningly promoted and wanted this idea that Trump was going to implement martial law, round up all the pedophiles, hold military tribunals and execute these people on closed caption TV. People actually cheered that on. Now, I think it's worse that people wanted But of course, it didn't happen. that. But we have this white knight situation again. So none of that happened the first time. It didn't happen this first term, but now people are thinking, oh, well, maybe it's going to happen the second time around. So I want to remind people, if you are listening to this and you think Trump is a white knight with respect to crypto,

I encourage you to watch most of my episodes since this season, season two, episode fifteen. I think the last probably ten or twelve out of the last fifteen episodes, I've covered this. But let's look at what Trump's actually done with respect to crypto. One, he's led a bunch of people off, but on a pay-to-play basis. So Coinbase, Gemini, Kraken, all of these folks are free, but they donated heavily to his campaign. Whereas our crypto warriors, people that have been fighting for freedom, the people that promote privacy and peer-to-peer transactions remain in prison or facing prison terms.

He has as one of his biggest allies in this crypto thing, a guy by the name of Justin Sun, who is a Chinese national. Remember, we're to be told that China is our biggest enemy, although maybe today it's Russia. But usually on odd days, at least China is the enemy. And that we have to use these tariffs and we have to win in this battle against China. Well, it's funny that in this process of pushing for innovation, we've pushed stablecoins, which are tokenized versions of fiat currency. And the blockchain that is used the most to mint Tether, which is the most popular stablecoin,

is Tron. Tron is controlled by a Chinese national named Justin Sun, or it's believed that he controls it. It's not decentralized like Bitcoin. There are only twenty six different nodes that control the network and control which transactions are added to the blockchain. And it's widely understood that Sun controls the majority of those, which means he has control over which transactions are added or not for the largest U.S. dollar stablecoin. He was, prior to the election, facing criminal charges by the DOJ. He donated a bunch of money to Trump through various mechanisms, and those charges were dropped. He is the single largest holder, son is,

of the Trump Mean Coin. He invested seventy-five million dollars in the Trump Mean Coin. He invested thirty million dollars in Trump's World Liberty Financial, which is a DeFi play. So this is what's actually going on. So if your belief is that this is all a white hat strategy to wipe out all of the debt and move towards a gold-backed system, the evidence suggests otherwise, completely. That's just Justin Sun. Now we know that the Genius Act is a backdoor CBDC. And what they're doing is they're taking these popular stable coins like Tether and USDC putting them under the control and regulatory oversight of Congress,

which is the body responsible for the financial surveillance that we already experienced, and then requiring them to be audited by the Federal Reserve. And they're doing this so that we can sell more treasuries because no one wants to buy our debt. So they're requiring that these popular stable coins, which previously didn't have to be backed by treasuries or dollars, they could be backed by gold or Bitcoin or whatever, They now have to be backed by U.S. treasuries. And our treasury secretary has stated he believes we'll be able to sell two trillion dollars worth of treasuries. So if you think, well, the whole idea is we're going to wipe out all the debt and then we're going

to go to a system based on gold. What they're doing is expanding fiat. They're expanding debt and they're adding CBDC level surveillance to it. So it's critical. if you've heard of this, If you're out there, if you're excited about this, watch this. Please like and share this, by the way. Ever since I've started hardcore talking about technocracy, the traffic's down a bit, which I expect to happen more. I'm not going to stop talking about this. And that's fine. This is the most important issue. So Trump has been picking winners and Very simply, losers. if you donated to his campaign, if you made hefty donations, if you invested in his meme coin, if you invested in his family enterprise,

Your criminal charges were dropped. If you didn't, they weren't. That is just the reality. So I would argue that what's going on with the Trump crypto casino is exactly the same as the Nasara scam that we're about to go into. so i want to talk about this so now what is nasar and jasar and this is hard it is somewhat hard to follow or it's not necessarily even that it's hard to follow it's that it's so unbelievable i think that's actually more of what it is so i am going to play a couple of videos so that you can get a handle on what it is that we're dealing with. But in essence, this is a twenty five year old scam that is just now really going mainstream. I mean, it's been on an upward trend.

But like I said, the reason we're doing this podcast right now is that I'm finding that when I'm out giving talks, people that I think should know better are actually falling for this now. And I'll be completely honest, if you guys are familiar with a guy named Ivan Raquin, He's this green beret who's all over the place. I run him to events all the time. He works with Michael Flynn. I chatted with him. He's involved in this. Now, I don't know whether he's just been suckered into it or if he's pushing it. That actually remains to be seen. But I've heard about this so much and it's really been increasing over the last six months that we've got to get this information out to people.

and really warn people because this is as big a distraction, frankly, as stable coins and even Bitcoin. So this woman, Shayna Dove of Oneness. So this thing has gone from this woman who has a whole bunch of interesting spiritual beliefs, kind of hijacking an original idea. that this guy came up with to fix our financial system. And she hijacked it, as I said in the intro around nine eleven to now Arizona politicians attending events about the quantum financial system. This multimillion dollar fraud has evolved from an Internet conspiracy to arguably

organized crime. So the evolution is it started with Goodwin hijacking Bernard's real proposal, And then now there are millions of believers worldwide. Now I have a separate conversation about this. Even looking this stuff up, you know, last week we talked about the media being manipulated, the algorithms and so forth, boosting certain content over others. The amount of views this content has on Rumble is disgusting. I mean, there are, you know, for talks on this to get thirty, forty, a hundred thousand views is not fifty, uncommon and i believe that has to be boosted algorithmically i can't imagine that this is an organic situation and

there's certainly a lot more of it on rumble than even on youtube so now again you have elected officials you have people like charlie ward phil godlewski simon parks and others profiting from it i'll go into details on all of these So this scam is accelerating with the crypto boom and political chaos. So let's start with the original lie. So the original lie is this. So this guy Harvey Bernard wrote a real economic proposal about how we could essentially move from a kind of a debt-based system to an

asset-based system. And in the process, wipe out everybody's debt. Your student loans, your credit cards, your mortgage payment, all of it would be wiped out. It would be somewhat of a reset. So if you've heard about this debt jubilee concept, this is I mean, it's referenced in, I believe, biblical situations as well. But this is really the genesis of where this came from. And so this guy got absolutely no traction with this. None. I mean, that's like many people that we know. I know people that have written proposals I mean, and sent it to members of Congress. And unless you've paid the congressman, and donate it to their campaign, they're not going to read it.

At best, you're going to get a form letter or email back saying, oh, yeah, We'll take it under consideration. thanks for this. So not surprisingly, they weren't going to completely upend the system and wipe out everyone's debt. Well, this Goodwin woman decided that talk about never let a crisis go to waste. she used nine eleven as an excuse to say oh they actually had passed barnard's proposal but nine eleven was orchestrated to stop its implementation so you know here we go a conspiracy is born so now we've gone from a policy paper to a cosmic prophecy no law was ever passed

or signed or hidden it was all completely fake now i'm going to play this clip Well, I guess I'll discuss one more item before I play the clip. The clip is, so I watched this original, it's an hour and a half, two hour long video. And I watched it on YouTube probably ten years ago. It's no longer on YouTube in its original form. I actually had to find a podcast of a guy who went through and reviewed the video. So I found it interesting that it has been memory hold. And so what you're going to see is I've taken two hours of a movie and I've condensed it to like fifteen, twenty minutes to try to get at some of the high points.

Now, it might be a little bit hard to but what you have to understand is that follow, this movie is essentially a reflection of the energy and the movement and the understanding and the knowledge of what went into this, twenty-five years ago. So, these were the OGs of promoting this movement. So, I will jump into the clip now. Let me see which one it is. Here it goes. We wiped out. Now they're stuck with all those bills. Gone. Gets rid of President Bush and all of Gone. his cabinet members. Now, this is going to sound so far out, you're going to think this is like from

Star Trek or something. Okay? But I'm getting a witness myself that this is true. Okay? And really, truth is so far from what... how they portray it on the news. It's almost backwards. Everything. They lie to us any chance they can get. in nineteen eighty-four I ran for United You know, States Congress and I had a TV interview. They went and they interviewed me for twenty minutes and they put me on the nightly news and they put a thirty second little clip. They took one thing I said out of context and it made me sound like a right-wing wacko radical.

But this is what we heard happen over in Iraq. As you know, our illustrious president is trying to get us into a war with Iraq against the whole world. The whole world is against it, right? Okay. He's already moved tanks and heavy armored equipment and surveillance teams and all this. Into the borders around what the forces can do to those things right well, here's what the forces did okay now by the forces I'm talking about extraterrestrial forces, okay? They took and removed all the troops up into the ships. Oh beam them up into the ships and left and they left the equipment and then

they disabled all the equipment, so it won't work and Then they drop stone markers, big stone markers with big high letters saying we will return your changing their date. The White Knight leaders are now choosing to do the Nassar announcement several days sooner than they previously planned. The members of the White Knight group who told Pat Sajak to talk about a world-changing announcement this Sunday also have the support of the World Court. The White Knight leaders do not have the ability to stop these other White Knights from getting the Zahra announced. Therefore, the White Knight leaders have decided to change their announcement date in an

effort to be the ones who get the Zahra announced. Who is Dov? I don't think nobody really knows who she is as far as who her real name is, her identity. I know she lives in a... Now, I don't know if he didn't... I'm not... this is an early-to-thousands conspiracy Again, theory. As much as I'm into conspiracy theories, this is quite a small one that really was quite niche until QAnon. And even then, obviously, it's not something... All QAnon believers subscribe to.

I don't know if they knew who she was in two thousand five. I'll have to ask the documentary filmmaker when I speak to him on the kernel is very funny. You guys do that. Also, I want to point out the dove dove. She had her grift planned out much better than Q. Fifty cents a minute. for her phone call updates for the Nisara hotline? He expects us to support Nisara in all we do. Thank you for calling. Goodbye. The way I see it happening is first

the announcement will happen and then that will be followed by the resignations of Bush, Cheney, Ashcroft and all of his cabinet members. They will be replaced by an interim government that's already been selected by the White Knights, who are the human component of who's doing the changes. Within, or within, ninety-six hours following the announcement, we will also have the Ascended Masters appear on our television screens and introduce themselves to us because they play a huge part in the evolution of this planet okay

after that happens the prosperity funds will be released and we will begin to work with our new government that's interim then there will be another more formal long-lasting uh election type years ago I had opportunity. I got work. I'm a friend of mine. It wasn't you. I wish it would be. His name was Matt. Matt and I were very close, extremely close, like brothers, like you and I, and like Jeremy and two of the other guys. A lot of them had small entry fees,

like the farm claims. You had to put down three hundred dollars. I pray to whatever God I pray to. And when I got it, because I had a prepaycheck in March of that year, the last paycheck, I took that entire paycheck and bought myself the papers. Why did people do it? I don't know. they just felt like it was going to I mean, happen. I didn't know it at that time, and I was skeptical. because I just didn't know where it was going to go.

And so, um, I started to open it up for callers. Since he is a guest, we'll take ten minutes per caller with the right to call back. But however, remember this first time callers get top priority over second time callers. The second time callers will get top priority over third time callers. So that's the way it is. Jim, welcome here to this. Just got to say, I think Sam Seder of the majority of poor needs to institute that rule. Let's continue. Thank you, Sherlock. I'm glad to be here. I want to thank RJ for setting this up. I know that he's a good friend of Oh yeah, I like RJ, yours. and normally anybody that he likes, I like, but there's been one maybe.

Forget it, but we're not talking about that. I won't go there. Okay. All right, I'd like to open up with a brief invocation. I'd like to call upon the creator of all this to be here today. that people's hearts and minds will be open to the concepts that we're going to be talking about, that the station will be protected against any problems that we have, sometimes with interruptions. I'd like to start out by telling a little bit about what NASARA is. NASARA is the framework, the legal framework, that will restore a constitutional government to this planet, okay? And it's already passed into law. It's already been through Congress.

And it's already been signed into law by Bill Clinton. And our own government behind it. I did not feel that it was bin Laden. I didn't ever believe it was Iranian terrorists or anything like that. I knew it was planned and executed by elements within our own government. The dark has issued you a monumental challenge that you can and will overcome. Remember who you are and that you are never alone. The pronouncements of heaven made possible much more intensive surveillance of the dark ones. This in turn has allowed increased interactions between those who are working

to transform your world and us. Now, do you understand that part? I'm sorry. Just for a second here. Got to read this. Sally is reading the weekly update from the Galactic Federation. All right, Sally, continue. Remember, nine eleven was allowed to happen on a spiritual level, but even our galactic helpers were clueless that it was going to happen. So it was to see how we could work as a team and what could be. Their sacrifice brought us to a consciousness level unsurpassed. And the Galactic Federation had to find

that out also. We got some good I saw other people caught that too. I made a face I didn't know if I wanted to stop it just to point it out, but he our our main Our main man there Jim's his name, right? Iranian that that that was happy Halloween guys, right? That was intense She's Yes All right, let me get back to that question. It would be the same for me also. Yes. I had my personal UFO.

when I lived in southern Utah, it would follow me wherever I went. If I came up here to Salt Lake, it would travel right along with me. And I was not the only one that saw it. My boys saw it, and whoever was in my car was aware of it also. And if I would go down to St. George, it would follow me. If I went down to Arizona, it would travel with me wherever I went for a whole summer. And I knew it was the same one, because it was just a telepathic thing that I knew that that was the same one and he was communicating with me. Like Michael was saying when he was going up past Hillfield and then you'll... I feel like you really need to be like a level of narcissist to believe that

like out of all the people on earth, there's a UFO just following you personally, just you. And it's just like, it's just you. oh my god all of those they're darker underneath but still some of them are just a different texture than the others that are around them jesus traveling through space because he in on a ship because it's more comfortable than him just like traveling head first as she put it like superman i i'll go with the spaceship under the great

pyramids or the sphinx or whatever it was that she said again uh this one that very definitely is a spaceship right there and we feel that this was a great ship the larger ship And Grim said, I don't know. I can't recall how many times they've mentioned it in this, but I want to make it clear to anyone just tuning in that they're Mormons, right? We're in Utah, so they're Mormons. It should be obvious, I think. But I think they're actually ex-Mormons. I think this is a cult of ex-Mormons technically. These are people who are part of the open mind forum. Yes, they are excommunicated Mormons called the

Open Mind Forum. And they follow the dove of oneness, Shani Goodwin, who is the source of the Nasara tribute, the Nasara conspiracy theory. So for anyone who's lost and needed a quick summary to catch them up here. It costs nine eleven. I had no clue. October twenty first. It is a sign. If if I was a the type of person who believed in that sort of stuff, I would now try to make my pitch

to you guys that you should all follow me. They're reincarnate of the Dove of Oneness. And call my Nasara hotline. It's no longer fifty cents a minute because times have changed. Inflation has set in and Nasara has not. A dollar a minute. uh and uh i give you my number to call and i take advantage of that sweet sweet great grift but uh no it was uh complete it's i'm actually quite surprised i'm i'm excited now to see what happens october twenty first maybe we all ascend as um we're talking to uh the filmmaker zeb uh on thursday

our daughter our son and our grandson and uh what's interesting about that was our grandson was with their the main nasara belief that circulates among q anon today um because they basically the open mind forum here to basically follow her her you know what she's posting right the dove drops again another like q anon-esque thing right Right? Like, is it, like, what did QAnon do on his website? And here they are calling a hotline and going to her site. And when I say QAnon, I don't mean his website. I mean his postings on Aitkun, a.k.a. Aitchan.

Hi, Prince Omni, Pi of Contra, Samaria. binary star system that located the headquarters of Ramadan. Do salute my brothers and sisters of the first wave who have served so well with me and around me and because of me and sometimes I'm booting the NFL. So these were the people behind this early These were the people that were pushing on. this entire And as I recall, there were two documentaries. I think there was that documentary and even a follow-up documentary. And I really wish I could find them because, you know, they were trying to rationalize and make excuses for why it never happened, why these dates that they kept on pushing out were never happening.

And then eventually kind of abandoned the And, you know, project. you can't necessarily find these people anymore. It's a whole new group of people that have come in. the QAnon movement and others and other grifters that have come in and taken an idea that had already fallen apart, a conspiracy theory that had already failed a quarter of a century ago and then just kept it going. That's the part of this that's amazing because I remember when I watched that video, the whole video, not just this guy's edited version of it, I'm like, I can't believe this is happening. I can't believe people believe this. But more importantly, people... even knowing it didn't happen, have revived it.

So these are some of the names and some of the people that you should familiarize yourself with, because amazingly, they're still actively promoting this And again, content. what really broke my heart yesterday was to go and look at Charlie Ward and some of these other guys and look at the comments, hundreds and hundreds of comments. Oh, this is what we've been waiting for. All of these people that are pinning all of their hope to the point that what actually would happen is people would stop paying their bills because people would say it's coming next week. It's going to be here tomorrow. It's going to be here the next day. So people are like, well, I'm not going to pay my mortgage then.

They're just going to wipe it all away. I'm not going to pay my student loan. I'm not going to pay my car. People lost their homes over this. People committed suicide over this. This is the extent of the hope. And then it all got wrapped into spirituality. I didn't show some of these clips. They bring in, well, they touched on it. The Ascended Masters in St. There's a whole narrative around this that Germain. is just absolutely heartbreaking to listen to because they basically used a combination of Ascended Masters, the Intergalactic, or the Galactic Federation, aliens, the whole nine yards. I talk about preying on people.

the problem is that grift continues. But again, And I think it's at an order of magnitude worse today, maybe two orders of magnitude than it was twenty five years ago, which is why we're here today. So these are people that you should familiarize yourself with. You know, and I do want to take a step back. the funny the funny thing about this is You know, I actually encountered some of these people. So we talked last week about how the new alt media is essentially owned by, you know, politicians and Peter Thiel and all these other people. But there's this whole other layer, which is not I don't even know how I'm trying to actually figure it out because I got caught up in part of it.

I'm not going to go through it here, but I got involved in that lawsuit with this wacky guy. And that's actually, it's a whole series. It's probably a Netflix series. But this guy who lost two hundred and seventy five million dollars worth of defamation cases and was still committing death and still commits the same defamation today. He lost these cases eight years ago and he was being platformed by some of the very same people that are pushing Nisara, Jasara and the quantum financial system. And so it got me wondering, the one thing is there's this whole other layer of podcasters that bring on whistleblowers. And I don't necessarily know if it's an op or if it's just these are people

that do zero research. And these people have never checked a fact in their entire life. You can watch podcast after podcast. Here's a whistleblower. Or why now I can't even talk about Here's an insider. these guys. But I talked to this other guy that talked to white hats. we're talking about thousands of hours. I mean, We're talking about people that have massive followers and there's not a single fact in any of it. So I can't tell. I don't necessarily think that these people are, you know, like work for the CIA. I think their stuff is elevated because they've created an ecosystem of fake information that is it's mind boggling. So again, just to make it a clear point,

quantum computing is real, although some people think that's not even But the quantum financial system does not true. exist at all. There is nothing true about it. There is no plan to wipe out the debt. These people are pushing things like ISO standards, which are just standards for information. Somehow it means that they're taking control of the banks. I actually argued there's a guy on X called Ariel. And I want to dig into his account because I'm convinced that this is another account where I think a lot of these accounts are bots and that the whole thing is a construct. But he was trying to argue with me about CBDCs and he was trying to tell me that changing ISO standards about how

banks and financial institutions share data was the equivalent of taking away control over the actual financial assets It was, it was asinine. themselves. And I went back and forth. I explained to him what all this stuff was, and he didn't want to have anything to do with it. I wrote a book about this. I'm like, oh, And then he's like, oh, you wrote a book. I mean, and then he has all of these followers that are just like, oh yeah, we agree with Ariel and they all pile And I'm like, are these bots? on. Can this, can this be real? I don't even know. I don't know the answer to it, but I know this is an account that wasn't even verified and grew to like, hundreds of thousands of followers and

I don't know, frequently trending on X. I mean, how does that happen? And how does it happen with these narratives that happen to be very convenient for the current administration? They're very convenient Because and there are some other clips. Well, I do have some other clips about the aftermath. What I showed you was twenty five years ago. Then I want to show you what it's evolved to today with a selection of clips across a bunch of different things. But it's just. it's just it's mind-boggling to me this entire other area of podcasts so look these guys up and just you can see for yourself look at the views on these videos and look at the comments they they

have truly captured people then this other concept is med beds this is all tied with this there's going to be a debt jubilee everybody's going to be rich they're going to create a token that's backed fractionally buy gold and distribute it to everyone, and everyone is going to get med beds. So these med beds, when you watch these videos, a lot of these are like, they're taken from actual Hollywood movies or they're AI generated. And there are a whole bunch of people that think they're gonna have their cancer cured because of this. So we're in a new level of hell here. So here's this video. And methods to return your physical vessel to optimal good health.

These beds represent a quantum leap in the business of health care all over your beautiful world, for there are currently enough of these beds to begin rollout in every country that wants them. Just imagine a health care package with no chemotherapy, toxic chemicals, radiation, organ removal, or having to live long term with scars, disease, and dysfunction. If you're thinking all of this sounds too good to be true or something out of a sci-fi movie, we understand your reservations. However, we would ask you to remember that Hiding in plain sight is one of the

Deep State and Secret Space Program's favorite tactics. For a very long time, the Deep State has been showing you technology beyond your wildest dreams in your movies like The Avengers and The Kingsman. Just because you think you're watching fantasy is on you as far as the Dark Ones are concerned. As far as they know, they have been showing you the truth. You just haven't been asking the right questions, or demanding the right answers. It's a nasty trick that's been perpetrated on you, and it's one of the dynamics that is about to change in a dramatic way with the announcement of Nasera and Gesera,

as these new technologies will be released as a part of that exciting and life-enhancing package. Now on to the details of these quantum therapy med beds, which come in three different varieties, holding three unique functions and four... So if you... I don't even know what to say about that. But again, go to Rumble. and type in med beds. Some of these videos have a million plus views. And once again, read the comments. You read the comments about somebody, oh, I have cancer. I hope this is out soon.

They are just absolutely preying on people. And that format that I showed you is a common one where it's maybe that's a real person's voice or not. The images are fake. They're AI generated or they're clips from movies. And these things get shared around and again, get hundreds of thousands, if not millions of views. So there are people that are waiting for this for their health care, that are not taking other action. The whole point of this, all of this is designed to make you inactive. You don't have to pay your bills. You don't have to build anything. The white hats are going to completely revolutionize the financial system. You're sick. You don't have to go to a doctor.

Wait, med beds are coming. It's actually a pretty evil situation. So this has turned into a gigantic pump and dump for XRP and for XLM. And the basic pitch that they're making is that XRP and XLM are the chosen currencies for the new quantum financial system. In fact, it's kind of a tokenization play. Everything's going to be tokenized. Banks are going to use XRP. This has been a scam that's been going on for years. I mean, it's really kind of the Mer to me, this is like the merger of the Nassar thing and the Q thing. And then XRP, which had its own ridiculous bot army that was pushing this idea that XRP is going to go to five hundred and eighty nine,

which is five hundred eighty nine. XRP would be worth more than all of the total assets on the globe, something that's actually literally impossible. But people were trying to mean this into existence. And so the press releases, and I've dug into this, the press releases, XRP has paid banks money to do pilots that went nowhere. But it's been more fuel for the fire. So there is no quantum financial system is being worked on. There's no international thing. And again, I've studied this with CBCs, but this is kind of like the whole situation with executing all the pedophiles and military law. Part of the problem here isn't, it's not just that this isn't happening.

It's why would you want it to happen? I saw a series of clips last night where what they're saying to people is, well, you know what? I can't remember which one this guy, this doctor something or other, who's a big religious guy is like, you know, The problem with Fiat is that the mafia and the criminals are involved in sex trafficking and human trafficking. And if we move to a system based on XRP, everything is gonna be transparent. So you don't have to worry about it. If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear, but this is how we're going to stop. This is how we're going to stop human trafficking. I mean, this is an absurd concept, but if you think about what it's doing

is they're actually getting people, they're selling people on the idea that, oh, if everything is transparent, no one will cheat and crime will go away. So this is ultimately a priming people. Along with this is people like, oh yes, stable coins are great. So this is now like they're taking a spiritual movement and turning it into something where we're going to save humanity and stop crime by having all of these transparent transactions. I've studied CBDCs more than probably anyone. And I will tell you that when you look at the design of the CBDCs, There are a few interesting phenomenon. One, for some reason, the government itself is never actually using the transparent currency,

but also they are building their own currency so that they can have more control over it. So in the US, we have Project Hamilton, Regulated Liability Network and Project Cedar. They're not looking to use these other platforms. They want control over the platform. So if you think the government is going to be signing up to be on a transparent ledger, I encourage you to study any time period in human history. It's literally not going to happen. And if you're being told that it's white hats that are doing this, but no one names who the white hats are, it's absolutely a gigantic scam. So now politicians are joining. I watched some clips. This guy, Mark Fincham and Leo Biasucci,

I believe is his name in Arizona. So they're participating in these scams. And of course they have, their XRP bag holders and actually going to quantum financial summits, system summits, which of course is just building more credibility. So now people, it's kind of like the, oh, Bitcoin strategic reserve. We have Cynthia Loomis talking about a Bitcoin strategic reserve. And so now everybody's like, oh, wow, this is great. It's legitimized. And so now these guys are further legitimizing. They're taking something that was a hijacked scam from twenty five years ago and adding credibility to it. So. Just absolutely disgusting. Here's a clip. I didn't want to play the whole video

because at this point it was getting a bit ridiculous. But you can see these are the two politicians talking to this guy, M Carmine, who runs Quantum Summit, seventeen seventy six. And this guy is a clear scammer. So then we have you know, if you look at this, there's three point three billion dollars lost in what are known as pig butchering scams. These are romance scams, and it turns out a lot of these romance scams are powered by Nisar and quantum financial system fantasies. So basically, it's a lot of men that are going to women and tricking them into giving

them money. based on a fake fraudulent relationship. And they're using that somehow this money is going to be tied into this reset and quantum financial system. So, I mean, again, how much lower can you get when you're preying on people spiritually or taking women that are in a vulnerable state and then stealing their money using a completely debunked conspiracy theory as the justification for it? So there's been an estimated three point three billion dollars in confirmed loss for these romance games in general. But a big percentage of that is not a big percentage, but some percentage of that is related to to this concept. And there's almost never any. Recovery on that.

So how are people making money on this? So these people, Phil and all the others that I mentioned. So what they're doing is they're making money in a variety of different ways. One guy is selling PDF guides for four hundred ninety seven dollars. Another person is charging between fifteen and thirty dollars a month. I mean, that guy, Phil Godlewski, may be making as much as a half a million to a million dollars a month based on the number of subscribers that he has for that. So you subscribe and then you get insider information on what's going on with the quantum financial system. And so people have been subscribers. You know, it's one of those things where it keeps on getting pushed off,

keeps on getting delayed. Oh, the black hats got in. Oh, Trump was They're interfering with Trump now. And so they keep these people in suspense and they keep on generating subscription revenue. You have people that are paying five thousand dollar registration costs for med beds. There are events with ticket sales. And so a lot of this is based on there's there's a blueprint for this. This kind of financial scam is not uncommon, unfortunately, or unheard of. There's something called the Omega Trust scam. which uh involves stealing twenty million dollars in the nineties some guy clyde hood got fourteen years in federal prison for this using the same playbook uh it

you know it's basically that you in fact it's actually the exact same playbook you you use language about prosperity funds secret government programs and imminent payouts and so these are really these are the triggers these are the things that they're getting people excited about and thinking is actually going to happen so again i you know part of this is i i still think we need to investigate q anon and find out fully what's going on there because i think these things are linked nasara predates q anon by nearly two decades But it's a shared a shared situation. Secret war, mass arrests, a financial reset.

And many of the people that believed in Q moved to Nassar post twenty twenty one. So this is part of the problem. Right. You literally are seeing like a merger of conspiracy theories. And I'm going to look more into Bellingcat's findings, but that, you know, he's actually suggesting that there's a direct lineage between Nassar and QAnon. So we need to get at this. Again, one of the things I've talked about doing is creating, and I'm building it, is this graph database for collecting information about technocracy and finding connections and validating or invalidating whether information is true or not. I think we need to go on a hunt on this because this is really a

dreadful thing that's happening to people. and the fact that it's gone on so long. And again, I'm more worried about the fact that it's picking up steam right at the wrong time, right? I was worried about CBDCs and then, you know, people are like, oh, you must be happy Trump won. And now, you know, no, now we have backdoor CBDCs and then we have this. So when I say, That we're distracted. I mean, I don't even appreciate the degree to which we're distracted because this is also part of it. So how many people out there are actually acknowledging, yes, we have technocrats pushing this. We have backdoor CBDCs. We have this, which is another another psyop. Like when you carve out all of those

people, it pretty much takes all of the air out of the room and you have and you have people, almost no one. taking active steps to build alternatives because sitting and waiting just like buying bitcoin and then waiting for the price to go up and then somehow the world is going to change all of these things are just multiple different paths to get people to do nothing to suspend reality and to give up their free will and to put all of their hopes into white knights and anything outside of themselves. And so we always should be calling those things out. But I'm very curious about this one because I think that there are people, I think the administration is complicit with this in some way.

So, and by the way, it kind of uses like a dopamine hit too. We talked about the algorithms of social media and how all of this works. it's almost like you know you know you would think if somebody says hey you know the debt jubilee is going to happen next week right and then it doesn't happen for years you'd think people would you know start to ask questions and unfortunately they happen it's like a dopamine loop so so people keep on it's like an addiction cycle so people like oh what's the next thing and then people it's turned into a drama and then you're telling a whole new story about why it didn't happen and then it becomes a community reinforcing belief.

This is essentially operating like a slot machine. And there's the single person that has made, Judy Byington has made over one thousand failed predictions. So she posts daily on Before It's News, and she has had over one thousand failed predictions. She still claims to be a therapist, but she's never right. and never stops. So on Before It's News, she posts on this almost daily. She's had over a thousand total wrong predictions, including days, ten days to darkness, the scam I was telling you about before, and also about Nassar. So it's like a perpetual motion machine of

lies about these things. And again, it still goes on. And the content still goes viral. It's baffling to me. I don't even know how to explaining. So there are real victims. The BBC did a podcast that I listened to today. They've documented retirees losing their entire savings over this, mortgage disasters with people that stopped paying, divorces, estrangements, depression, desperation, suicide, and people choosing med beds over real treatment. So this has had a gigantic impact. So, I mean, again, and to go back to this idea that Trump is a white hat.

So, again, look at who has had their cases dropped. No one's going after them. So you're telling me in all of the time that we had all of these scams going on and all this crypto enforcement, somehow this went under the radar? How did this go? I mean, it certainly wasn't undetected. This is actually highly public. I mean, and if you're on Rumble, a platform that JD Vance and Vivek and Peter Thiel and Howard Lutnik and others have a huge ownership, and you have to know about this because these are some of the most high trafficked website content that you have, which is not an accident. So anyway, I mean, you know,

I'm sure if you're listening to this, I talk about how to well, we've been talking about, you know, Bitcoin being a scam, a lot of things being a scam. But, you know, here are some tips for how you can spot the scam. You know, is there any kind of fee registration, activation or processing? Are there any military claims, secret operations or white hats? By the way, when has that ever worked out, ever worked out? Why would we believe that there are white hats? In the military, it doesn't make sense. These people have been sitting around murdering people, killing children, and expending resources and spilling blood, but they're just waiting and biding their time for the right moment.

How does this even make sense? It's bullshit. If you keep on hearing the dates move, it's perpetually next week. Um, and you know, and then when you see exchanges and, and, you know, a lot of third parties and intermediaries being involved in holding the assets and everything, you know, again, don't, don't leave your crypto on exchanges, but these are the exact kinds of projects where you're going to end up having somebody holding people's coins and, and, and everything else and trying to help people along the way, looking like they're being helpful. I'm just shocked that the people. that have been the big promoters of this that have, you know, some of these people,

they present themselves as ex CIA, this guy, Nino over here, he was a boxer or something. I'm like, how do these people still have traffic? Why, why are people paying for these subscriptions? Like, how does this even, how does this even work? It's, it's mind boggling. And I encourage you to look these people up and see for yourself and read the comments. Cause I think that that'll be a real eye opener for you. So in any event, you know, we're pretty much near the end of this so I can open up to Q&A. But I'm beginning to think I want to not only study when we get the site up for the technocracy thing, try to study and figure out. Cause even using AI, doing research and everything else,

I'm like, okay, who was the first person to talk about this? Who was the first person to announce quantum financial system? And it's amazing how difficult it is to get to like the original source documents on all of this. And so this is why I think there may be something more to it. I mean, they're taking advantage of people that already believe in conspiracy theories, but I actually do think that they're behind the scenes. Some people laughing about this, knowing. that they're directing people who are in pain and desperate towards this and also knowing it's going to lead towards inaction and essentially the greater consolidation of control. So I'm a big advocate that we should

break the silence on this again i will talk about bitcoin i will talk about these things a lot of people don't like talking about this a lot of people like oh well you know i have xrp or i have stellar lumens like i'm not those projects may be good on their own independent of this and i don't even think necessarily that the projects are themselves involved i don't think that these are the crypto projects driving it. But at the same time, um, I am really sick of giving talks and having people come up and listen to me talk about CBDCs and they're like, oh yeah, are you, are you excited about the quantum financial system? Do you have XRP? And, and just it's happening more and more and more.

And so again, we have more people uninformed and we have more people doing nothing that are losing massive amounts of money. So with that, I think we've hit the key takeaways. I'll just, you know, put a plug in here for freedomforge.io. Check that out if you want to learn more about Zeno and building projects. And, you know, we'll be talking about that more in future episodes. But with that, you know, honey, you ready to do this? Are you ready for me? Yeah, I'm going to bring my better half over for this as well. You saw her maybe for five minutes when we were, wherever we were in Virginia. doing the episode on why voting doesn't matter in twenty twenty five.

And hopefully she'll be doing doing more and working on actually building decentralized medical freedom and food marketplaces on Zeno. So hopefully she can be all of that heading up some of those things we're going to have to. So I'm going to if you want to hop in here, let me I see direct from Philly is there. Let me put the link and putting the link into the chat for anyone else who wants to to hop in. And if you could share this, I mean, we're thirteen hundred views. I mean, we're down again. I mean, it's not horrible, but it's you know, it's a lot less than it was. And I can tell I can tell right

away when I launch. how shadow banned it is by how many people see it in the first ten minutes. It's pretty much an indicator of what's going on. So truly sharing and liking this either online or in groups or Telegram or however is very helpful. I want to get more people to see all of this content because the whole point is that this content is intended to help people and empower people. So if you would be willing to share, I would be greatly appreciative. Hello. Hi, everyone. You're going to introduce me? Well, I did introduce you. I already said you're a group chat. This is just a group chat. This is not a formal thing.

My name is Eileen. Your name is Eileen. Thank you. That one. That one. That name. Yeah, that's true. You don't have your own separate thing here. I don't have an identity there. There you go. All right. All right. Let me go up here and see if there are any. Not a lot of comments today either. So how many people are aware of this? How many people have heard about this or have friends or family members or an uncle or something that is talking about this? This seems like the kind of thing that would come up at holiday parties or something or Thanksgiving. So if you're in the comments, if you have any personal stories to share,

that would be helpful. Because again, a lot of people are getting ripped off here. I see direct from Philly, Georgie there. I sent you an email with a bunch of questions in no particular order. Some of them in jest, but I think they're worthy of addressing. All right. Let me pop that up. I also just sent Dan, if you're listening, I sent you a note as well. All right. Let me find my email.

So George, do you know anybody caught up in this? I came in a little bit late. So define this. So what I think you mean that are basically being romance scammed into a quantum financial reset. Is that what we're talking about? The romance scam is one part of it, but it's just in general the idea that there's going to be a debt jubilee. Everybody's debt is going to be wiped out. The new currency is going to be backed fractionally. Surprisingly, I know less people that have any concept

of a debt jubilee concept. only less so than, uh, people that know anything about Charlie Kirk and only thing, uh, and even less than, uh, people that might even be aware that Jimmy Kimball was canceled and then brought back in. I mean, the, the, the vast majority of people I know that are living in, uh, the normal world, for lack of a better explanation, they're so tuned out of mass media that

they're oblivious. And how many years have we known each other? How many years have we fought a fight? uh the reason why i have so much respect for that woman next to you named eileen is uh because she's been a fighter uh about things that i a small percentage of the people i know are even aware of it's something they should pay attention to i mean you know one of the things that we often talk about is that we only need three percent to make a difference. I mean, at the end of the day, how many people threw tea into a Boston

Harbor, right? Very true. And so, you know, if not us who, if not now, when? And if you want to rally the troops, they just want cheap cheese. Yeah. That's very true. It's unfortunate. It takes effort. It's reality. Yeah, but it takes effort. You have to make choices on how you're going to spend your time. Are you going to spend your time being entertained? Are you going to spend your time educating yourself so that you can either help yourself via your health or your food

freedom? I know, I know. I'm trying. All right. But if somebody came up to me and said, how can I make a lot of money in a short period? I tell them, if you have no scruples, sell Tylenol to pregnant women. I mean, there is a giant disconnect. There's a giant disconnect. And Erin, you were somebody that... Open my eyes to this concept a long time ago. And that concept was don't expect everybody to be as smart as you.

Yep. Well, I mean, this is a question of, yeah, well, people are not aware. And a big part of what we're doing here is trying to make people aware of the fact that they're programmed. And to whoever, we're all programmed. And so we have to recognize that we've been programmed and then figure out what our own individual programming was so that we can strip that and start making conscious decisions. I think what I've been trying to do, which is incredibly difficult, by the way, is to try to make people aware that if you don't understand what's going on here, you're literally going to lose free will. This isn't a matter about how much money you can make, how much fiat you can make.

Fiat's not going to matter. You're not going to have rights. You're not going to have property. And so this is the challenge, which is that This isn't in any way about how much money you can make. This is this is literally about a battle for free will itself. And people are not aware at all. And most people do not want to acknowledge it, even though even those that should know better. Listen, you know, unfortunately, you and I have been friends for a long time. And I. Why I say it that way is because, you know, I I believe what you know. And, you know, maybe look through my questions if you

haven't found that. Answer them in no particular order. I think it'll generate some good content for this podcast. We'll have a little fun with it. And I think it touches on the things that we're alluding to right now. And Paul, you say in Nineteen Sixty-Four, author Eric Berne, a Canadian-born psychiatrist, wrote Games People Play. The Psychology of Human Relationships, should I have AI help me rewrite an updated version titled Games Technocrats Play? Nobody reads books, but sure. I guess as long as you don't spend too much time on it. I was going to have AI do it all with the voiceover.

No, I throw that out there. I'm never going to write that book. I have a lot of things to do, but I throw that out there because maybe it plants a seed to somebody who is listening now or in the future to explore that book, explore technocracy, and maybe profit from it. Yep. I mean, most people don't even know what technocracy is. That still remains a big problem. The next question is, do narcissists know they're narcissists? Probably not. No, they don't. They just have a belief that they're superior. I had asked you that same question in a different way years ago, which is,

does evil know it's evil? And the reason why I'll never ask that question again is because I'm not going to try to recall your exact words, but you you changed my mind on the um the limitations of thinking in uh the paradigm of evil and good okay well i so this narcissist thing is actually a challenge because on one hand i'm a big

advocate for free will but then there actually is a question of can a narcissist change and the truth is i don't have any good examples of a narcissist changing i'm open nor do i i i i've i've been fortunate enough to know a few including somebody that you alluded to earlier, that doesn't matter how many judgments that they've been, they've been dealt with, and I'm not a giant fan of the bar, the British judicial system. But you know,

there's got to be somebody who can stop you know, the narcissist. And I have yet to see a narcissist not get all the way to presidency. Yep. I mean, that is true. I mean, there's a whole dark triad personality thing that, you know, that is a tricky one. And Um, I should probably look harder, but we've encountered similar people, several people that are like the person that you just mentioned and some of these in crypto, right. But yeah, that was another one that was an absolute parallel where I'm like, finally, after realizing it,

because it becomes one of those things. If you lie so many times and then the lies get bigger and bigger, if you create a back catalog of lies and you hold onto it long enough, then you can actually accumulate some of the most diehard supporters on earth. Oh, all right. So thank, thank you. I, I know I gave you, uh, ten questions there, but, uh, allow me if I may to, uh, you know, create a, a sub question related to the narcissist part. Are narcissists born or at an early age do they start to believe their own bullshit?

I'll speak a little bit to that. It's a combination. Remember, you have genetics and then you have this thing called epigenetics. It's the environment that you're in that can turn genes on or turn genes off. And so when you're looking at that, so it's a nature and nurture issue, I believe. So, hey, we're learning things in genetics all the time. You know, there's little sense they can say, hey, you have a high propensity of being low in vitamin D regardless of how much you're going to take. And we didn't have that knowledge ten years ago. So we're learning things all the time with regard to that. So narcissism, I think six in one hand, but doesn't have the other.

can we blame it on tylenol in utero well you know i think johnson and jensen have said about this issue for a very long period of time and um it never leaves your liver we've known that for for decades and and um one of the things if depending on on your paradigm with medicine um you know, today, immediately, oh my goodness, you've got a one hundred and one fever. Let's give you Tylenol, or let's give you something to get your fever down. And your body works in a beautiful way. It's, you know, natural immunity. Your body is trying to fight something off. So suppressing your body's automatic response to fighting off a pathogen is

probably the wrong thing to do. So you'll be uncomfortable for a day or two. You may have a fever. You know, as an adult, you don't want it to go away. There's all these other stipulations. But let a fever run its course and build up your immune system as opposed to taking Tylenol or something immediately. And I think some of these things are pushed, like the measles, not measles, the chickenpox vaccine, like that. Those things were pushed not because of the virulence of the issue, but people were losing time at work. They were affecting the GDP. So if you allowed parents, now you have mothers in the workforce, if they stay home to take care of sick children, you're losing money.

So that's why some of these things were pushed too. So totally off topic there, but I couldn't help but go there. No, no, you know, take two aspirin and get your ass to work is what I just heard you say. No, no, it's called take time off and let your body heal itself. So you don't need... Well, that's your advice. Yes, I know. So Sandra writes a friend of mine that passed away in ninety two had been waiting for the Sarah for over thirty years. Yeah, I mean, this is, you know, again, the more you dig into these things and then you look at the videos and look at the comments and again. There's never any retribution. You don't even see people coming back and saying, hey,

it's been ten years since you said this. Maybe you're full of it. No, it's just it's all more hopium. It's more hopium. I mean, maybe it really is kind of a it's that dopamine hit from next week, next week, next week. And I don't know what to do about it. I mean, I guess it's a sign of the level of desperation that we have as well. That's exactly it. It's people are desperate and these are these last little hopes they're holding onto that something's going to save them. And there's nothing coming. There's nothing coming to save them. And they'll believe just tremendous stories, even though they seem, if you take a few steps back and go, wow, that's pretty outlandish.

Where are the facts to back this up? Or even if you just question part of the narrative, something should click and go, wow, like I must be really, really desperate to believe this. we've all been indoctrinated so it's the public you know the education system has indoctrinated us it's it's our parents it's our social circles all of those have have led us down this path to believe some things that seem just pretty phenomenal um so is is the message the white knight is you Whoever you are, you are your own white knight. I am a self-rescuing princess. And I hope a lot of you are there too. Well, at least the ladies are.

That they recognize that nobody is going to come and save them. And that they need to... prepare for that. And some of the people, it's so much easier to just think about how they've set this up. They've set this up to, okay, now you've got two working parents that are on the, you know, the hamster wheel all day long. They don't have time to really raise their children yet. They're having children because there's this idealized version of, you know, the white in the house with the white picket fence and two kids and a dog, right? Maybe a cat in it too, if you're a cat person. you get trapped and then you really don't have time to think. You're dealing with life every day and

every moment between kids and school and your boss and your car payment and the house payment and the mortgage and oh my gosh, you got weeds. And you're dealing with all of that. You don't have time to wake up or to be alert. And sometimes when you're trying to help somebody there okay so you're in a desperate situation there you know that you see the commercials where somebody's going up with her bills and oh honey we're in trouble this month and what do we do we'll call so-and-so or whatever loan company or that would be an ad for what how do you um but then they have this story that's out there that that could be believable and wow look there's already a million people following

this maybe maybe they are onto something that i'm you know, didn't know about, maybe they know something I don't know. So I'm going to follow them. And then every time you listen, it sounds better and better and better because otherwise there's no way out. If you're somebody who's making the average American, the median income for like a family of four, you're making that. And, and you've got any, any college debt or, or anything like that, you know, that looming over you, there is no way out outside of, you know, again, winning the lottery or having somebody die and leave you something. There's no way out. If you are, if you are significantly in debt and both

trying to, and believing something as, as much as some of these people believe this, it's better than facing the reality is, Oh my God, I have no way out. And then, so can I repeat? Yeah. Can I repeat that back to you? So good luck if you think the lottery will save you. Yeah. If you're listening to this podcast right now and you have a business, you're into free markets and marketing that, you know, you know, the most profitable call to action is hitting a pain point for your customer base. And if what an Italian guy told me a long

time ago, that the biggest mob is the government, then maybe just maybe the government knows that dependency is where profit comes from. Yes. And again, keeping you safe. There's no way out of the system. And it's designed to keep you in it just like that. And I'm glad that people here are listening. I may have touched on this in some of the questions I sent you, Erin. Yeah, you did. You did. I see Ken is joining. Hi, Ken. Thank you. Thank you. I'm good, Erin. Can you hear me? Yeah, I can hear you. Thank you. Uh-oh. Oh, great. Hey. Crypto. So I really appreciate your work, Aaron.

Press thoughts on BTC versus BCH versus BSP and you're advocating for Roger Ver. What would you suggest to, or what do you, what do you suggest to, I want to say newbies, but maybe even anybody going forward uh with crypto as a means of facilitating exchange of goods and services amongst people outside of oversight because it's pretty clear that it's not btc and while it might be bsv or something like bsv it's probably going to require some kind of more massive buy-in than bsv and i wonder if you can just speak more uh

however little or much you want to about BSV and going forward in the future, maybe IPV internet version six, et cetera. So I've moved from, in fact, I just updated my book, the final countdown to version two point O and actually the big shift in the book, which is the change that I've made over the last year is I've moved out of all of the Bitcoins and entirely into privacy coins, because what we're dealing with with CBDCs and stable coins, which are backdoor CBDCs, is we're looking at surveillance coins that can be seized, can be tracked, and that's already happening. And so that is the basis for kind

of a digital prison. And I think people thought Bitcoin was pseudonymous early on. And I think what we've learned with chain analysis is that most of this stuff has actually been trapped through chain analysis. And so I've had three different situations this year where people came to me where they were in a dispute, either a divorce or a business dispute, and the other party on the other side hired a private investigator who is now, they're now trained in chain analysis and can get access to a database of linking transactions that are coming from exchanges, coming from crackdowns from law enforcement. So even if you've never used an exchange, if you've done a transaction with somebody

that was leveraged by the government, the government turned over, said, identified who the keys were, you're in a database now. So to me, the biggest threat that we have is technocracy. And so privacy is the answer and privacy tokenization. And I got there after slamming my head. against the wall, you know, first with Bitcoin until twenty seventeen and then with BCH and then with BSV. But then I and I spent a lot of time on BSV, even at some point arguing with Craig Wright because, you know, BSV was for my transaction per second capability was the best alternative. When you're looking at, you know, the CDC that the US was developing, Project Hamilton can do one point seven

million transactions per second. So obviously seven transactions per second isn't going to cut it. We needed a real alternative. So when I started getting involved with the BSV community and I know a lot of the people in that community and I finally started talking to Craig Wright, then all of a sudden he pivoted and the pitch is now that BSV is going to be used by central banks. which of course is not going to happen that I was trying to explain to them that, you know, just because having the, the lowest cost, most scalable thing does not mean a government's going to adopt it. There's a level of naivete on that that was mind boggling. And I tried to explain that.

And I said to Craig, well, Hey, I'm, you know, I've been studying this issue. I've written a book. He's like, Oh, you've written a book while I'm getting a PhD on CBDCs. He wouldn't even engage in a conversation. And at this point I'm kind of like, all right, I I'm, I'm done with this, not to mention the fact that he was suing people like he sued Roger multiple times. I don't even know what the whole range of it is. And so so BSV is not is not the answer. I don't think there's a singular answer either. It's I mean, I like Zeno, Monero, but we need more coins. And then those privacy coins need to ramp up their scalability. So it's going to be. My question was going to be besides Zeno

and Monero. What other privacy coins besides those two? I mean, those are the two that I that I focus on. I guess Zcash is OK. You can use Litecoin with nimblewimble. Dash is OK. I mean, I'm OK with all of it. And by the way, and I hope the ecosystem works together and there is some collaboration between people in some of those projects. And I know I think there's an effort to work jointly in the privacy space on quantum resistance. So I'm all for all of them, you know, being successful and I'll use I'll use all of them to a certain degree. I'm going to be at Mineratopia speaking again. Sometimes there's synergy with the Monero

and Zeno groups, sometimes there's not. But I hope that we continue to understand that the threat is technocracy, not division within the privacy coin space, because no single privacy coin has the ability to onboard enough people. to be a singular solution and nor do we want a singular solution because that's a single point of failure we do want multiple options yeah so would it be fair to say if you believe in fifty states that you might just believe in fifty privacy coins perhaps well yeah i mean you know i'm all for experimentation although at the same time i would evaluate things on the basis of first principles right so it's not know you can still look at something and

evaluate objectively whether it's a good idea or not but i so i'm open to ideas but at the same time if you look at something that's like yeah this doesn't work or this isn't secure this doesn't scale or it has some fundamental defect in the underlying economic model then you certainly point those things out but there should always be experimentation But yeah, I spent a lot of time on BSV. It was it was just devastating. And I got to the point. So this experience that I was in before, which, you know, my lovely wife was involved with as well, where I got involved with a lawsuit with

this guy that was a narcissist. You finally it takes years of being in it to realize how bad it is, and what's going on. And And I know I reached out to Kurt Walker at one point while the lawsuit was going on. I'm like, look, I've traced this down and you know, he's, he, this is not real. He's not going to show, he doesn't have the keys because you can actually track it. So from my understanding, I'll preface everything by saying, this is my opinion, since he tends to have a tendency to want to sue people. Although, you know, the problem is when he was in Australia, What it looks like happened was it wasn't just that he didn't pay his taxes. He got tax credits to work on research

on the basis of making the claim that he had put in some money and it was essentially getting matching funds. That was the whole point. The point of the tax credit was, oh, you put money in, we'll put in alongside you. And it was on a Bitcoin transaction that he never actually made. So then they started investigating it to find the wallet. And I mean, it turns out that then he made the argument, well, it was just an inter transfer from one wallet to another. So technically, it never actually hit the thing. And so then they went after him criminally, and he fled the country. So then he goes to the UK. And he borrows money to get out of some of the situation that he's in in Australia.

So he gets Calvin Air to put up some money. What does he put up as collateral? Well, he puts up a key for a paper wallet. And the address of the paper wallet is one of the wallets involved in the Mt. Gox hack. But the way that he did it was, I guess he didn't use the right design. He used the wrong era design for the paper wallet. So he basically, it looks like, you know, defrauded Calvin Air. So now we've got a situation where it's building, and I've seen this before, where somebody... is trying to get out of criminal liability. And so you're willing to commit civil fraud in order to get out of criminal fraud, allegedly. Again, I'll put it that way.

And so then it just keeps building. So then at this point, you're like, all right, well, I'm chasing these people from this perspective. And then I've just lied to this guy. So then you've got to double down and then double down some more. Because what are you going to do? Because at this point, you're actually facing jail time. And so because I had seen that before, I called Curtin. This is my second podcast of this show. Season one, episode two is all about this. It's all about what? Are you talking about the specific case? I didn't catch the beginning. You said you were in court with someone. Was that Craig or was it someone? No, that was a separate case, not related to Curtin.

Okay, got it. Last five and a half years. But when the case was going on, I was looking at the legal documents of previous cases and I was actually going through and looking at the discovery. And finally I called, I called Kurt and I said, listen, this is BS. And I said, look, it's going to be hard for you to accept this because it was hard for me to accept because the situation that I was in was with somebody who claimed to be fighting corruption. And it turns out they were using the deflection and trying to create a public image of fighting corruption to hide their own corruption. which is a particularly evil thing to do. And that was what was going on here.

So so many people believed and still believe in Craig Wright. And like I said, I told Craig, listen, you're going to have a hard time with this. But I think he still believes it. And, you know, whatever, that's that's his choice. But this is this is one of the downsides. It's hard to imagine that people would lie like that and would continue to do it after it has such devastating effects. But I've seen this. I've seen another person in a different case ruin people's lives ruin his own family relationships with his own family and still won't admit it won't confront or face himself to this day on stuff that's been going on for two decades so hence the earlier conversation about does a

narcissist know they're a narcissist and then you know my my bigger concern on this is i believe in free will but i i i wonder about people that are narcissists because i i don't really have any proof point i've never seen a narcissist like Since I asked that question about the narcissist, knowing if they're narcissists, let me just back you up on this because with and without you, I've dealt with this situation multiple times and I fancy myself not to be of average intelligence, but man, have I been sucked into those black holes.

And in hindsight, you know, I'm getting up there in age, I'm fifty five now. And so, you know, you learn things sometimes the hard way. And although I've always believed that I make my own decisions, sometimes I get lazy and I just defer to someone who seems to know more than I do. And man, is that a black hole. Yep. Especially someone like Craig. Like, the guy's pretty smart. And one reason, one simple, easy, big reason to side with him is that

his bad guys really are bad guys. Like, if you want to talk about Blockstream and some of the Bitcore and the small block people, like, within that fight, he had... You know, it was easy to back him. Roger Vera backed him. Yourself. Myself. But just because he just because the bad guys. Craig Wright. I wanted him to be right. I wanted him to be Satoshi. I, you know, full disclosure, one of my younger cousins works for Coinbase. And a couple of years ago, I was having lunch with him in L.A., Palos Verdes, actually. but uh i told them who i was positive satoshi was and my younger cousin

has not had any conversations or respect for me since yep well but and again just because he had he had some of the right enemies but then he didn't in other cases he sued people like roger and and others he terrorized people with these lawsuits and these defamation lawsuits that he terrorized people with. So the fact that he didn't like Blockstream and didn't like some of these other people, he harmed people that were innocent and he weaponized the legal system, which, you know, he went on his high horse about the importance of the legal system and then, you know, went ahead didn't follow it at all. And then the narrative started to shift. Oh, well, the courts are against,

he spent all of his time, how we have to work within law, welcome to law, welcome to what's coming. And then when he loses now, everybody's like, well, the law's corrupt. And so it, this was never about the law. This was never about the truth. This was all about him covering up his own issues and utilizing what playing off of principled people that actually believed in truth. Aaron or anyone, speaking of BSV, you're closer to Kurt and maybe you're more tuned in, definitely more than I am. Where is BSV right now, practically speaking? Who's using it? As far as I can see, as someone who saw Bitcoin coming up from two thousand nine,

I would say now that it's a big nothing burger other than price goes up, money goes up. Don't ever sell. We're all going to get rich and go to heaven together. Is BSV actually being utilized? Aaron, can I throw in the common guy's two cents here before you answer that question? So often I play back in my mind that good luck building the better mousetrap. so is bsv the right technology probably uh

is raven coin uh probably the best technology for tokenization yeah maybe if you're like gonna live in a world where uh transparency and first principles are the reality but government fucking corruption. At the end of the day, you know, the pen is mightier than the sword. And if you can get five hundred and twenty eight people to pass laws for you, then, you know, are you going to raise an army? You know, and so my the point I'm trying to

make here is You can participate in the game. Hence my first question. Games people play games, technocracy plays or are you going to build alternatives? And the biggest challenge that I have with Craig Wright and, you know, full disclosure, I wanted him to be Satoshi for a short period of time. He was my white knight, but what started to make me question my own opinion was his fallback to british law

and if you're going to i mean this is you know let's if you want to have a conversation about first principles and and where does rights come from and i'm not asking this question right now but if You if your power for your soul loop. Maybe just maybe it's not the path I'll follow you down. Yeah. Yeah. And that became a lot of things that were problematic again to the process and to the court documents and everything else. And then the narrative shift, I don't think So in a way, BSV isn't the answer because again,

it is empowering the technocracy. And that's actually the way that Craig describes it now. I don't even think Craig would be against that at this point. And that was, and by the way, that was a different view because I saw in the discovery, there were some emails that he had with Calvin where he was saying, well, if we get it to this point, then the government can't stop it. So he actually went from, he's either telling people different things or you know his viewpoint was this could be something that could be used because remember at least even by his own description of this and calvin's background this this was a currency that could be used for gambling this is a

lot like you know i did a podcast on this about dr jack cruz and his theory that len sassaman is satoshi but he kind of documented the whole history of the Jewish mafia and, you know, exposing the Federal Reserve and, you know, all the way up to them looking for different solutions. And then there was whatever the cryptocurrency was before Bitcoin, which had a whole bunch of MIT people behind it. It might have also been sponsored by the mafia and the CIA because they were looking for a solution to help with money laundering. And so when you look at the backgrounds of Calvin and Craig, this wasn't a I mean, Calvin wanting to what? Create global transparency for the world?

He was on the FBI's most wanted list and made all of his money in gaming. The whole story doesn't make sense. Right. And so, so it almost seemed like there was, maybe there was a five D chess aspect of this. Well, if it could be built, then maybe it couldn't be stopped. And now it's no, uh, this is built so that governments can use it and everybody can comply with law. That was not early Craig and that's late Craig. And so, and, and so it doesn't even matter, actually, it doesn't even matter what Craig says about it. No one's actually using it, but at some point a few years back, cuz I wanted to. I wanted to speak at the conference, at the CoinGeek conference in London,

and to explain how BSV could be an alternative to CBDCs as opposed to embracing it. And I was originally put on the schedule and then I was removed from the schedule. And then I joined a couple of spaces and then I realized that there are a lot of people in the BSV community that don't know how business works. They don't know how government works. There are a lot of people there that are young and naive. They're very principled, but they've never built a business. They've never interacted with government. They actually have no knowledge. So it's kind of like taking an idealist. A lot of the people that still support are people that are idealists, not realizing that Craig's preying on that.

And this is not the way the world works. So, but I mean, yeah, so much time spent on that. And, you know, last year, what year is it? Twenty five. Yeah. So does a Satoshi wannabe not know he's a Satoshi wannabe? No, he knows. You know, I mean, one thing is not necessarily the same as the other. I mean, although maybe it is possible that he's convinced himself that he's actually Satoshi. But I mean, at this point, I don't even care because I I'm now at the point where, and it takes a long time to get there, even in crypto, because there's so many people that evaluate crypto projects based on Bitcoin. And I now look at Bitcoin and I say, so somebody says, oh, well,

it's open source and it didn't do a fundraiser pre-mine. Yeah, that's how it was hijacked. That's how it was hijacked by Dylan in the deep state. This is why it's a technocrat seven transaction per second thing that MIT and people from, you know, traditional finance and others have completely hijacked. It's not a feature. It's a bug. Not having funding for a project is stupid. That was actually problematic. So Raven Queen harped on that. Well, no pre-mine. This is all the thing, right? Because it's got the same attributes of Bitcoin. At some point, you have to sit down and look at these things on their own merits and say, was this actually a good idea? is proof of work even a good idea

I'm not actually convinced on proof of work anymore so now I take a different approach and I think it's completely possible that Bitcoin was a deep state project from the beginning it's a surveillance Ledger so okay well so what I was interested in crypto because I wanted uh peer-to-peer digital cash separate from centralized authorities I still want that I don't care about Bitcoin and if Bitcoin may or may not have ever been But it certainly isn't that now. And so I'm more interested in, OK, now we're fighting a technocracy in a way, whether it was intentional or not. Bitcoin has turned into the thing that many of us that got in it early. We're trying to avoid and it's been used

as a catalyst for digital currency, surveillance currency. And just so people know and you can stop me, but One of their early Bitcoin adopters that we know that actually put it on their license plate was using Bitcoin to transact on the dark web. And I recall the conversation you had with that short gentleman to discourage him from doing things that he shouldn't be proud of, and to instill upon him that it's an

immutable ledger. So if you think that at some point in the future, this can't trace back to you, then you're mistaken. Yep. A hundred percent. Yeah, no, I mean, that's been an issue. So again, it took a lot of heartache to get to this point. And so what I was about to say is early March of last year, was it last year or two years ago? No, it was actually just last year. It's been a year and a half. So we're at this point where I've got this book, I'm running for president, I'm warning people about CBDCs. The book actually outlines... Two years ago. Was it two years ago? No, no, it was... No, it was last year.

It was twenty twenty four. It was early in the year. And so the book was like, all right, well, we need a combination of coins in order to be able to beat this. But then we're looking at the Craig Wright lawsuit and then the case. And at that point, he's suing Roger. BCH wasn't I hadn't really heard much from Roger in years. He hasn't he hadn't been in public and I didn't even know he was writing hijacking Bitcoin. And so I learned that this book, Hijacking Bitcoin, was coming back and that Roger was kind of reengaging. And that was the only thing that actually gave me any kind of enthusiasm because it was clear to me at that point, I knew BTC was dead and I knew that BSV was dead.

But I thought, well, maybe Roger is going to expose this and maybe there will be a resurgence in BCH or whatever it happens to be. And literally three weeks, you know, I interview him and three weeks later, he's arrested. And I learned about Zeno in the meantime. But I mean, that was a, this is why this has been something I'm so passionate about, because for me, this has been, I see the threat of CBDCs and technocracy. I can't not do everything that I can to warn people about. Literally, I can't even imagine going and like trying to make fiat. or maximize making fiat in this context, knowing that we've got this thing coming over here. But then when Roger got targeted immediately, I'm like,

he's being targeted because he's the most effective person at promoting. He's always been about peer to peer digital cash. He's never been a maximalist and he's always stated that. And so there aren't many people like that on the planet. And I knew why he was targeted. When he was originally arrested, people were like, oh, well, you know, all he has to do is write a check and it'll be over with. I knew it was completely and entirely politically motivated. In fact, that was in my book. The book actually even said, here's the executive order. Here's what we have to watch out for. We have to watch out for CBDCs and a crackdown on crypto. And so then when it's people that I

know that end up getting thrown in prison, then I'm kind of like, okay, well, I wrote this book that nobody read. All of this stuff's actually happening in real time. Like, this isn't even one of these things where I'm like, hey, I'm warning you about something. Now I'm like, we're doing a living autopsy of the situation. And this still is ongoing. So anyway, that's how I got here. Next time, if ever, you get to speak to Roger, and I doubt my name will ever come up, but if it ever does, just say, that crazy fuck thinks you should write a book about how shakedowns work.

Aaron, I want to share with you, and everybody, I want to share with you the work of Thomas Greco. His website is beyondmoney.net, beyondmoney.net. and his life's work for forty years has been about alternative exchange mechanisms, not only barter systems, but actually something other than that. And he's got some good ideas on there. It's not crypto, although there could be some kind of crypto means that would facilitate the transactions. But his work has been promoting utilizing the energy of people to make things and produce things and exchange things based on the credit of what actually is

produced. So it's money In the sense of a means of exchange, you know, it's not money as far as. Wealth accumulation, which BTC is now almost exclusively right? Like, you're going to hold on to it forever and you're never going to move it and you're going to borrow against it. And, uh, it just, uh, I mean, it doesn't make sense. Anyway, I just want to share that with people check them out beyond money dot net. Yep, yeah, I'm taking a look at that. I've got to get to my. bookmarks and yeah if you're there right now i can tell you go check out his article on cofex c-o-f-e-x so he's got an idea for utilizing a factor business which I never knew about until he told me about it.

So factoring business that would buy someone's debt and pay them a certain amount, let's say, ninety percent. And so his idea is the factoring business would be issuing the coins or tokens, Kofax token that then would circulate amongst that community. Thank you. I'm going to check it out. Aaron can back me up on this. I know a thing or two about factoring. Oh, please check it out and get in touch with him or you can contact me or contact him, Thomas Greco at beyondmoney.net. He's working with a few people around the world, including a couple different crypto token people. But it's a means of working parallel or

transcending the fiat money system. It doesn't mean you're going to be outside of the purview of the SWAT team with the handcuffs and the straitjackets, but it's at least getting out of fiat money use. have you read this book have you read this book the end of money in the future of civilization yeah i'm uh narrating it right now oh really he's up he's up yeah he's updating it yeah so i'm ken richings who's doing the narration i'm a couple chapters behind so there's going to be an updated version coming out because well it's it's the quote it's the quote unquote new two thousand twenty four edition conversation okay well i'll reach out to him yeah i'm sure he'd like it Yeah,

but let me know when the audiobook comes out. I know what it's like. You can go to Substack. If you go to his site, it'll link over to my Substack, Future Brightly at Substack. And each chapter has been narrated up through, I think, chapter fourteen. And I think he's just finished chapter seventeen now. We're probably going to have to change the title to be the new two thousand twenty six edition by the time it's all updated. And actually, you know what, Aaron, and whoever else on the call, you are the people he might want to talk to because the chapter I keep telling him to write. Sorry? Substack. I'm not seeing Substack. I'm seeing links to a bunch of other stuff and not Substack.

Then go to future . That's pretty much the only thing I've been posting for the last couple of years. But so what I've been prodding him and encouraging him to do is do a really big take on the crypto space and how it might be utilized within this context. The short answer would be it would be the mechanism by which this credit is exchanged. Right. But then the devils and the details and I'm certainly not an expert, but Aaron and whoever else. So Aaron, especially because your head is definitely deep into all this. You might be someone that might have something interesting to provide to them.

Yeah. And one of the things that I'm doing as part of the Aaron Day show, we're doing this, I normally call it debate, but discussion about first principles. So my viewpoint on this has been America one point O is over and I'm not even interested necessarily in trying to figure out how to fix the us but what we have going on right now is a whole bunch of people experimenting with network states and a whole variety of other things but they're not doing it from first principles a lot of them are repeating mistakes that have been made and and my view is well what's rather than just assuming that the us was right the first principles were right and it just screwed up on the

execution why don't we go back and actually debate what are the first principles All right, do we have free will? Let's have conversations about metaphysics and things so that people can apply it in their own life. You can apply it to whatever situation that you're working on. And this concept that you're talking about, somebody has been trying to reach me about. I think it may be a related concept. And it's been submitted. TheAaronDayShow.com under principles, there's an idea that has been suggested. So this might be a topic and they're not debates. What I'm wanting to do is have somewhere between two and four people and have a discussion. So it's not, you know,

you get your talking points for one minute and whatever. And, you know, we're going to determine who wins at the end. It's supposed to be an ongoing dialogue. And we may have multiple debates on the same topic or discussions on the same topic over time. The purpose of it isn't to get to a definitive answer. The purpose is to allow people to discuss some of these concepts in depth and then allow people to exercise their own free will as to how they want to use it. And this concept is an interesting one. And we're at, in my opinion, we're at a point where these are the kinds of things we should be rethinking the nature of money. We should be rethinking the entire basis of a lot of these things.

And unfortunately the technocrats already have a particular world worldview. So the default situation is we don't have free will. And, you know, we're, we're implementing a system that is based on materialism and determinism, and we're not going to have to say it. People don't realize that that's what's going on, but you know, I want to see if we can elevate a conversation on this. I don't know how many people are going to be interested in this. And it's not a mass market thing, but, you know, I mean, the founders did have these kinds of conversations and it's not like it's unheard of and it would, but it certainly is not happening in any of our political discourse or through any

other channel that I'm aware of. Well, those types of conversations need to come back because they, they, they actually allow for dialogue and thought provoking conversation, which we don't dialogue and thought provoking conversation, which we, we don't have very much of today. No, we don't. So one of the big stakeholders or group of stakeholders that would benefit from a small, from such an alternative exchange mechanism or a group or Kofax kind of token would be small and medium sized businesses. Because practically speaking, and I hear this all the time when I talk to people, especially if they're retired and have limited income and they're just worried about surviving until they die.

Well, how do I participate? Well, this specific thing that I just mentioned, like the factorial business, that's specifically geared towards small and medium-sized businesses. And speaking of going back to first principles of this country, right? Small and medium-sized businesses, people, individuals doing stuff, making stuff, that really can be a backbone of a very strong decentralized economy and society. versus working for however many dollars an hour delivering for Amazon or any other kind of large multinational corporation. As small, medium-sized businesses often struggle getting credit to operate,

let alone expand. And so that might be a part of the conversation. Yeah, actually, I'm pulling up right now. I'm pulling up right now. Oh, they know you're listening to this podcast. Right. They're coming. I'm pulling up, or at least trying to pull up, freedomforge.io, which is the site that I'm using to try to incubate tokenization projects on Zeno. And the whole premise is... I think this is one of the problems with crypto. I think this is one of the problems that we talked about earlier. I think it's one of the problems Craig Wright had. It's one of the problems that Ravencoin

had, which is this belief that the existing systems and large corporations want your technology, that they want efficiency. They absolutely do not. They're part of the technocratic agenda. If you actually look at the WEF, and we already have over a hundred and fifty global companies working with MasterCard to track how much carbon you use with your financial transactions and then that information is being used for instance a credit card that shuts off and you use too much carbon so there's already so the i so most people get caught up with number go up and if i can get these big companies to use my technology i'm going to make a lot of money and they're not understanding how

it's these big companies aren't sitting there looking for your efficiency in most cases they're like the stock market for instance they're making money on things like naked short selling they're making money on things that are based on a lack of transparency so it's not that your your new you know new widget isn't isn't solving their problem it's a threat to them and they will use force to stop you so the whole key of it is what i'm saying is build parallel systems like let's tokenize equity i don't want to tokenize walmart i want to tokenize the lemonade stand or the local business or local farms or whatever it happens to be. This is the way out of this.

It's never going to be about making this technology something that makes large corporations more efficient. That's actually counter to freedom. Yeah, it might be enough just to simply transcend the fiat money system. So if I could cut it in whatever ways we can. Yep. All right. Thank you. So beyond money, you had used the term factoring, which is legally different than lending, correct? Oh, I think so.

Yeah. So the factoring company, they buy your debt. Yeah. So it's not funding. They buy your debts. And will they buy your future receivables? Oh, I don't know. Good question. So those are not that would be the weeds that you might get into with Thomas. And this is actually a new idea just from the past year. Well, so Aaron didn't go through all the questions that I had originally sent him in an email. But one of those questions was, do podcasters know that they're influencers? And You don't have to answer any of my questions, and I'd be happy to speak with you separately about this. But I'm very interested in the website

that you sent us to. But I'm here with you now. And, you know, metaphysical bullshit aside, the universe has put us together. So if I'm going to speak to anybody from my own truth, and I know that sounds gay. And I'm ready to be canceled for anything I say on a podcast. But the important thing is, if you go back through this podcast, you'll hear that I expressed that in the past, I've deferred to people such as Craig Wright, that I really wanted to be the source

of truth. And And I'm making no judgment on anybody that you're involved with or you believe in now, because I've been wrong in the past. And I literally, I'm not saying that you're down a wrong path, but I know a lot about factoring. And so my understanding of factoring is that a factor buys future receivables from a merchant Uh, at, at a discount. So if you wanna go back to some of the things that are, and I discussed with first principles, you know, if you wanna really go, uh, you know, deep into first principles is,

is money lending bad because, uh, around the globe right now, you have different religions that have very different opinions on whether or not. money lending is bad and over the years in our country uh the definite definition of usury seems to be moving up rapidly uh and so at the end of the line uh there is a line in this you know that sounds redundant but from person to person human of being um there's a difference between helping empowering and taking advantage of,

would you and I agree on that? Yeah. Yeah. And, and, you know, depending on the times, the situations, uh, that that's fluid. Right. And so, uh, Aaron, uh, one of my best friends ever, uh, he's been there for me, uh, I could only hope I've ever been here for him equally. He was there when I was trying to elevate a group of guys that truly believed that they were doing the right thing in a factoring company.

And Aaron's opinion was that we were taking they were taking advantage of people and my argument was we're helping them kick the can down the road and how Aaron helped me reassess that situation and why ultimately I left a very financially profitable situation was because he made me realize that maybe the best thing for some entrepreneurs is that they need to fail. So with that said, I'm not asking you a question, I'm just planting a seed for you to think about. Because if, if,

and this is where I'm getting hopeful right now, if you can come back to me and say, I've got a way that we can help entrepreneurs kick the can down the road enough to save the baby, I'm all in. Fair enough? Yeah. So I think ideally, so I never knew what factoring was until Tom came up with this idea. So ideally, there's, go ahead. There's some people that have some comments. I just want to make sure we're... Rob Geddes, Answering some of these because they're tied to the main main topic. They're just a few I did.

So we just, if you wouldn't mind. I just real quick Leah says back to the service our QFS scam side sharing the beginning of this video. Rob Geddes, What else can we do to open our friends slash people's eyes to the scam. I mean, I mean, sharing content is, I don't know what else to do because part of the problem with this is that, I mean, there is that statement. It's easier to fool someone than convince them they've been fooled. And I actually think that we're at the point that we're at right now is if you've bought Trump after the first term, or if you bought the. Ten days of darkness and you're, you're already in on the Sarah, then what it would require for you to face yourself.

And the fact that, that you allow that to happen, that's a really high bar. So I don't know, I don't know how to do that. And one of the things that's built into, I've noticed this in the videos about people pushing the Sarah and just Sarah. You will have people say, oh, well, my best my buddy is, you know, he's a Harvard MBA and everything else. And he looks at this and he says, this is all garbage. And and then he goes on to explain that, well, of course, he would think that because this is something that is, you know, because this is going to be something that shatters their entire worldview. So they're actually getting ahead of anybody that might even question. what they're doing.

And so I don't know if it's, whether it's sophisticated or if these people are scammers or to what degree that they understand what they're doing in terms of manipulating people. But at this point, it's really hard to break out. And Leah says it's the same brick wall I got during convict psychosis. Yeah, no, it is. It's the, so I don't know. So this is kind of like, kind of, even as I do this podcast, I want to expose people to technocracy, but then also say that there are things that you can do You can build privacy alternatives. You can actually make money building alternatives. There's a whole other alternative ecosystem. Because if you were just pointing out bad

news without any alternative, then you're basically going to lead to more desperation. It's actually not going to help at all. And I see that. I can't tell you how many conferences I go to where it's like, oh, you're the only one that's actually talking about a solution. And where people are like, I mean, I went to the Red Pill Expo. And the people at the Red Pill Expo are like, yeah, we, all we hear about is we know it's bad. We're at something called the Red Pill Expo and we've been here for ten years, but what are we going to do about it? And so, um, so, you know, this is why I'm kind of balancing my time between how do we create these alternatives while also warning,

but appreciating the fact that we're running out of time. So, so we've gotta give them a replacement. Um, and so that's part of it. So you can point out the scam, but then just say, Hey, and by the way, did you know, there's an alternative, you know, maybe you don't have to wait for the med bed. Maybe you can, you know, try this or, um, you know, there are some things, actions that you can take in your own life where you're not having to wait. Like, um, like Sandra's friend did for years for this are not to happen. So it's, it's balancing those two things, but I don't have the right, I don't know what the formula is for that. Cause to be honest, it's pretty hard going right now with this.

There's not an understanding and appreciation of the urgency of what's happening. And again, that what they're believing in is not true because then what is the alternative for them? They don't have any way out. No, sorry, so Ken, so sorry, back to you on that. I just wanted to make sure we got Leah's comment in there. I wanted to tell George or just talk a story. When you mentioned usury, when I was running the New Hampshire Liberty Alliance, there was a piece of legislation that was in for like payday loan,

payday loans or allowing payday loans or expanding payday loans in the state of New Hampshire. And there were There were people that came up to testify, obviously against the bill, claiming it was usury. It was usury. It was absolutely horrific that some of these places were charging, you know, nineteen and twenty percent interest rates. And that's that was usury. It was horrible. How could they do this? And for folks that have credit cards out today, like what what is the interest rate on your credit card today when ten years ago, whatever your interest rate is today was considered usury, not a normal credit card rate. So it's a. important and what but as you the story

that you described you know that uh really taking advantage and there's there's many many companies out there that do that to people when they're again in a situation where they're there's no way out they're they're trapped whether whether they intentionally trapped themselves or they had medical bills or you know their children were sick and or there was a car accident and insurance whatever the whatever the the problem or however they got there just trying to live every day Um, that's where they are. And then people, you want to know what I find comical people will spot the weakness. Um, and there are people, there are predators out there that will spot the weakness, um,

and just say the right things that'll bring people on. So some of these, um, the podcasters that, you know, Aaron mentioned earlier, what, what are they doing it just so their numbers go up? Do they not, or do they really believe, um, and what they're selling? Um, when you, we know what they're, they don't do fact checking. If you did a little bit of a little bit of due diligence on this, you'd be aware that, that, wow, maybe, maybe I was wrong on this. And so maybe the right thing to do would say, Hey, I was wrong folks, please. I'm really, really sorry if you bought into this, but I did some, some research and realized that it was, this was a giant psyop or a lie, but if, if you.

That's the best case scenario. Even the umpteenth best case is just stop talking about it and not promote it anymore because it's really hard to admit that you're wrong. So what I hear you saying, there's a fine line between altruism and greed. Maybe we should ask Sam Bankman about that. Maybe. Actually, I was going to say, so on this podcasting question, do they know they have influence? Yes. So the episode that I did on Monday is really eye-opening on this. And because you can track. So this is why I say the feed on X is pure garbage. Seventy percent of it are made up of bots. But then you look at people.

Candace Owen is completely bought and paid for. Ben Shapiro bought and paid for. Steven Crowder bought and paid for most of these people that people think are influencers. Yes, they're, they're actually, they're sponsored ads. They're mouthpieces. It's not even their opinion and it's not even their ideas. Candace Owens used to be a liberal activist and now she's out spinning where she, she, she was of financial interest because she could get the black vote for Republicans. And now she's a mouthpiece that pushes a bunch of stuff, but then it gets worse than that. There's a company called influenceables. run by the spouse of somebody in the Trump family. Influenceables is a site that you go to

and you say, hey, I want to organize a campaign, but I don't want people to know it's a sponsored campaign. And so a lot of the content you'll see online, Ian Miles Chong, Gunther Eagleman, these people that are influencers and you don't even know why they're influencers. They're not smart. They're not accomplished. They haven't actually done anything, but they have four hundred thousand, five hundred thousand million followers. Well, it turns out their tweets aren't even their own. They're paid. When RFK wanted to start cracking down on the soft drink companies, there was a well-funded coordinated attack where two hundred different influencers sent out a tweet all at the same

time opposing it. And it was through influenceables. So most of the content you see is crap. Most of the podcasters know that they have influence because they're literally paid for it. And I would argue that because once you then know who owns the networks, once you know who owns Rumble and True Social and these other platforms, they're also algorithmically boosted. So you basically have people that have rented a persona to push a political agenda. And that is what most influencers are. But then you have this other category. Because, by the way, it's Mike Gill. This is our stuff. This is these are people that had Mike on his show. This was the other thing that made me

sick when I went through this, because then it's this whole industry of they they interview each other. Right. And it's like, oh, we've got a whistleblower. And then, again, nobody could find a fact. This whole group of people, they have hundreds of thousands of followers. They have massive amounts of content and no one's ever checked a fact. And so, but they're also grifting. It's a complete sponsorship game. They're selling gold sponsorships. There's this woman, Michelle Moore, who continued to allow Mike to defame both of us after sending a letter, we even sent it to cease and desist letter. She ultimately ended up pulling all the Mike stuff down when Mike turned on her,

but she's out hawking various goods. And so, so what ends up happening is maybe some of these people start out with good intentions. And they start chasing the algorithm or some of it is scripted from the very beginning. And so, yes, most of them know and most of them are paid for it. They're husks. So I'm going to just throw this out there. So when you have someone like that, Michelle Moore, who claims that she's a foundational, she's a Christian and all of that, and then she is willingly, knowingly bearing false witness without doing any background check. So what does it say about what? where she is, what she really is, because whatever she claims she is, she is not.

And you see that all the time. So I'm not seeing a lot of pie. So I reserve the right to be wrong. But, but it's, you keep making the claim that you're this, you're, you are this thing that you're claiming to be. And then your actions are completely opposite of that. So it's, I'm just calling out the hypocrisy. I reserve the right to be wrong. But one of the arguments that I make to friends and daughters is that the only thing that ever really changes in life is the decimal point. So when I hear you talking about people with hundreds of thousands of followers, I'm like, fuck,

if we can only get to... tens of millions, if we could just move that decimal point, then maybe we can actually enact change. And so the reality is, from my perspective, is if you're in Jim Jones camp or you're waiting for a UFO to come and pick you up because you're wearing the right sneakers, your circle, whether it's ten people, one hundred people, a thousand people, ten thousand people, one hundred thousand people followers.

You feel relevant and I'm old. Not that old. I don't even really feel old. But. Perspective is reality. If you want to change your reality, change your perspective. So, and it's all about the circles you keep. Fear is a bitch. Fear of being ostracized has been a marketer's greatest ally and

how governments uh control by division oh yeah we saw that you know i'm not a fan yeah yeah so i i think we're all on the same page uh and and thank you uh my my point is the gills of the world uh the rights of the world have far less influence on reality than those deep into the reality of it all could ever comprehend.

And if we don't cross the chasm to mass adoption, then the bad guys win. Well, we still need to innovate. We're not even at the cross. I don't even worry about talking to millions. To me, it's a waste of time. In fact, I actually have been going back and looking at my traffic last year. I probably reached fifteen, twenty million people last year. I was on the Alex Jones thing that got eight million views. And I will tell you, there was almost no engagement. I'm pretty convinced his traffic is fake. can i pretty blow some smoke up your ass but it's it's it's i'm breathing deep

to blow the smoke uh i i think both of you know uh that i don't believe in time but incremental steps are fundamental And I, the, the reason why I love the two of you is because you fight the fight and come on, but let's be honest here. Which couple that I know, uh, has made so much progress in such a short amount of calendar time. And my observation,

anybody listening to me pontificate here now is that there is a path. There is an alternative and only you can be your own white knight and join a movement and you don't have to wear sneakers. You don't have to believe in anything other than yourself. But if you choose to build upon an alternative, then maybe just maybe the rest of the world will eventually follow. And if the rest of the world does follow, then freedom and liberty for all.

Yeah, no, I mean, I like that sentiment. I think for me, well, you know this because we came down in twenty twenty during the middle of COVID. And, you know, I was talking about all that stuff that, you know, that we the internal journey stuff and self-actualization and limiting beliefs and all of that other stuff. But part of that whole process is, and I still haven't figured it out because there are a lot of people that know this. There are a lot of people that are very aware of the fact that we're programmable. And that our subconscious can be, can be tapped into, but that we could also snap out of it and we can actually drive our own

destiny. This is not a new concept. The problem is usually when organizations are formed to help people with this, they end up manipulating them because they get people into that state where they're vulnerable or they're, they're starting to, to, you know, get rid of limiting beliefs and they're trying to install their own beliefs. And so the problem is when I thought I've been studying this, we've been studying this and the whole idea was, well, how do you help people become their own white knight without influencing them? Because it's about them becoming their own white knight. So what that means is if you're your own white knight, you're not emulating somebody else.

Being your own white knight doesn't mean you're following somebody else that has become their own white knight. You actually have to become your own white knight. You become unapologetically yourself. Yeah. And that's tough to do because people are, one of the things that people are trained to do is to follow people. And I don't think that that's necessarily inherent either. I mean, by the way, when we talk in some of this, this is why we have that whole thing about first principles. I mean, there's a real, there's a real, so the founders tended to have a view that humans were inherently selfish and, you know, kind of bad people in a and i i would like to challenge is

that true i don't know the answer to that but they made a set of assumptions based on are people like that inherently or is this what has happened this is what happens to have been handed down generation after generation if we know how vulnerable kids are from zero to seven and we know the general pattern is you're going to adopt what you get from zero to seven and that's usually going to come from your parents or certain institutions then what does that say about the inherent evil of man. I don't have an answer to that, but to me that is a question that probably should be discussed if somebody were going to try to decide how to create maybe a new organization, a new political organization,

not meaning a political party, but we're trying to experiment with their own society, voluntary society. That's one example of a thing like that. But yes, people becoming their own white knight People can take control. But, you know, the problem with that is that you have responsibility and a lot of people don't want the responsibility. So can can we all giggle about something? So based on what you were just saying and based on what I agree upon in another tab, I went to Google And, you know, I love chat GPT. I love Claude. But, you know, sometimes just easy to go to Google. And I started to type in what percentages

of and it finished it for me. People are narcissists. And that's exactly what the fuck I was about to type. And so Google listening to us says between one and six percent. So, uh, yeah, you know, one of the first questions I asked you a long time ago, and if people go far enough back into this podcast, I alluded to it before I asked you to narcissist. No, there are narcissists. Uh, but, uh, many years ago, I woke up from a dream, uh, asking myself, does evil know it's evil or does it think it's good? And I can tell you exactly. what was going on in the world at

that time. And it was when I actually believed that maybe there's a group of people in the globe that would fly planes into New York. And I've come a long way since then. But When I asked you that question, you helped me look at it from a new perspective. Thank you. So if Google's prediction about what I was

going to type into it is what's the percentage of narcissists? And it says between one and six percent. So let's even double that. I have an incredible amount of hope that the problem's not as bad as I would fear. And anybody that's listened to me and is tired of all the shit I've said in the past couple hours, don't believe or, you know, just who the fuck am I? But human being to human being, If you hear me now, have no fear. You are your white knight.

And I know I sound like a simp right now tearing up about this, but I'm the father of two daughters. And the only thing I want my great-great-grandchildren to ever know and ever hear is have no fear. Thank you. Thank you, George. That was, thank you, George. Very well said. Well, I guess on to the next question. If the priest class can evoke mythology, why can't meme coiners profit on stability in a world of fear? I'm trying to...

Why can't meme coiners profit on stability? Because I'm trying to understand that one, because, I mean, meme coins are Ponzi schemes, so there is no stability. There's nothing to profit off of. And stable coins aren't Ponzi schemes? Well, yes. Well, so a stable coin... Well, depends. It depends, or you could have an asset-backed token, but meme coins are fundamentally Ponzi schemes. There is no way whatsoever for any It is a zero sum game. There's absolutely no win-win. They're complete trash. So, you know, again,

this goes back to the fact that we have people that are working on things. You can spend your time on whatever you want. There's infinite opportunity. The fact that people spend their time on things that are a net negative for society, it makes no sense. And part, and you know, part of that is probably just people not thinking about it or having perspective on it, but you know, we've lost a lot of, think about how, I mean, I've actually stated this. I think that we are maybe now a couple of generations of people that don't even understand the concept of voluntary exchange. Everything's a Ponzi scheme or a rip off or a rug pull. And they, and they literally don't understand that

you can have an engagement, an interaction with somebody where both parties win. That's actually been lost fundamentally in. in the economy. And that's largely due to the federal reserve. Cut you off for half a second. So could we agree that Ponzi schemes are destined to fail? Yeah. I've yet to see one disprove that. But by definition, they would be run out of people. At some point. Oh, yeah. So there's probably an algorithm. There's probably a mathematical equation. But and we all agree that have no

fear. Right. okay yeah i yeah yeah yeah yeah all right so uh you know if you're ever going to give a young person advice about markets stock markets housing markets whatever the market is the only true thing you could ever say to them is buy low sell high agreed um well yeah you're thinking too much you're thinking too much okay all right but would we agree that you know the optimal is

buy low sell high but good luck buying low and selling before the crash Yeah, I guess I wouldn't give people advice. I give people advice. Get the fuck out of all of the markets and get out of the money. That is my advice. I actually wouldn't give anybody advice to even participate in these games. You're fucked. It's rigged. And this is not financial advice. No, this is life advice. This is life advice. Different. Yet, yet, every week, people buy lottery tickets. So there's a difference between making

decisions on fundamental principles and gambling. Look, every time you walk out the door, every time you get on the road, every time you you talk to somebody on a dating app you're gambling you have all these high expectations about how great your future will be and you underestimate the risk that you're taking what you know who the knows which supplement to buy who knows if

your local stores brand milk poisonous or you should drive thirty miles to get like real cow milk unpasteurized right there's an ebb and a flow to everything everybody takes risks everybody hopes that the downside won't really kill them or their children and they want to believe that the influencers. So to circle back to the previous question that you brought up is that influencers know that they have influence.

And the reality, from my perspective, what the fuck do I know, is that influencers have more influencers than they could hope for because they're just trying to get followers. subscribers interaction and at some point people that put themselves out there and i have the greatest respect for people that put themselves out there because god knows uh the negativity they have to deal with you know whether it's bots or uh organizations or just the average joe

All right, I'm going to pontificate for a second. Anybody listening to this right now that wants to have a social media presence, if anybody out there hearing this now wants to have their voice heard, do your own research. I mean, really. You're your own white knight. it's the internet you may just last forever you may have you may have a presence more than you will ever profit from good luck profiting from it but you

may just may plant a seed to a young impressionable mind and that that's on you so do your own research If you, if you personally wouldn't eat the supplement, follow the advice, or suggest that your great, great, great grandchildren do it, then maybe, just maybe, you shouldn't platform it. But what the fuck do I know? Do your best. Trust your gut. Yeah. yeah i don't know to what degree we

we've kind of lost morality we've lost sense of right and wrong i i don't think people people don't seem to be motivated by by that that's that's part of the problem like that's been lost well there was a concept many many many years ago of that you know well whatever job you're doing you do it well right so so you know legend has it that, you know, the sculptors who did the Sixteenth Chapel were questioned about, you know, gosh, you can't even see that, but they toiled for hours on carving this little sculpture that went up way up in the top of the Sistine Chapel, and their response was, well, but nobody can really see it, but you put through all that effort,

and they said, yeah, but God sees it. So that was, that was kind of like the, the, the adage, but it was, you, you just, whatever you're doing, you do it, you do it to the best of your ability, because I guess that's the right thing to do. That, that kind of mindset's not there. Not, I don't think that's present much anymore. No, I agree with you. I love you, Eileen. And so, uh, early in the podcast, I. uh i tried to position myself as a guy that doesn't believe in time but i do respect uh universal time and uh so the reason why i'm saying this is uh whether you're at global uh global vacate

tempe by and or just screw that up or the pyramids or the hoover dam the guys that understood what if you could write something in stone as people in the past have done and they wanted to just make one statement in stone that could last eternity they might just type in to that stone this too shall pass and People that think beyond that might actually put a star map. So when they built the Hoover Dam, they created a star map of when the

Hoover Dam was built. So regardless of languages, anybody that could understand a star map could look at it and say, oh, we roughly know when this stone was put in place to commemorate a time. Because at some point, you got to make your mark, right? So now is our time. And here's the cool thing. If a blockchain, and based on our earlier conversation, who the fuck wants to bet on any

one blockchain, but some of the blockchains that exist today are not only immutable, but might just pass beyond us. So, you know, it's the same reason why when they launched Bitcoin, not BTC, Bitcoin, that that first transaction marked a point in time. You're your own white knight. Mark your point in time and do good.

Seems like good advice. Yeah. Well, you've got some other questions here. You've got, should anyone be trusted? That's a really, that's pretty deep and philosophical. Yeah. I mean, that's, you should learn to trust yourself, but outside of that, I mean, I don't know. I don't even know what that means because there are dimensions to that, right? You can, you can trust someone's intent. But somebody can have good intent but not be trustworthy because they're inaccurate about something, right? Or there's not trusting someone based on their intent, regardless of that capacity. So I guess it's a complicated question. But I'd spend more time trying to

cultivate being able to trust yourself is a better bet. It doesn't seem like trusting other people is a is a great thing because it's hard to know another person and know exactly where they're coming from or what their perspective is or what their motivations are. So, you know, so it's kind of a situational thing. I actually think in general, though, we're at a point in time historically where if Reagan said trust, but verify, I think we're in a don't trust, but verify. And that is hopefully situational. But I think we're at an accumulation of enough degradation of, I don't know, whatever you want to call it, morality, that it is a wiser thing right now

to not trust and verify. And that may change in the future, but that is certainly how I'm viewing it at this point. That's a good perspective, just because of the fact that we know all of... Just information and belief of some basic things that people's people's well many people on this podcast if they go back to to you know they were they were in one mental frame of mind and thinking, this is how the world works and then. And then something big kind of happened globally. And I don't know if we could say that on the air because I don't know. It's not like I can be more shadowed than you are.

This is true. So COVID happened. And then at some point in time, something made you say, like, something is wrong here. And then as you dug a little bit deeper, then you recognized, well, there is so much wrong here. And I'm being lied to. And wow, that person's lying. And now this one's lying. And there's, there's, there's, there's no truth that I'm seeing on anything on the TV or, um, and any truth that you could possibly get your hand on. You, you, you were getting through, through very back channels and, uh, your, your worldview was shifted. And so that whole idea of having to, you know, not trust, but verify is probably unfortunately where we are today.

And, um, Yeah, and that's just the state of being. And I think one of the things that they want us to be in a place that we don't trust ourselves, that we're so unsure. And many of the things that we've seen that have come about to destabilize foundations. So think of some of our big foundational things that we understand about ourselves as human beings, you know, They've tried to upset those foundations and have people doubt. And if you can't even know just some basics about yourself, then anybody can manipulate you.

If somebody keeps telling you something's white and it's black, even though you evidence that it is black, it's black, it's in front of me, but somebody keeps telling you it's white, then you get so confused, you become destabilized to a point where they can just manipulate you for anything. And they've done that significantly to the, you know, the next generation coming up. They don't, they have no foundation. They are, they're like very, so malleable and, Not necessarily, it's not gullible. I don't know what the word is. So if somebody can come up with a word, it's good because it's not gullible. They're just so malleable and being able

to be influenced on multiple levels because their basics have been destabilized. I'm concerned for their future if we don't succeed with what we're doing. with creating alternatives. Yep. So on that happy note, folks. Yeah, I mean, that is, so I don't know what to do about that. Again, I don't know how we seem to have, although I now question everything, but it seems like we had a period of time where people were more

trustworthy. I mean, we hear these things about people doing handshake deals. I don't even know if that's actually true. Yeah, no, that is true. Well, well, there was, okay, well, you know, I grew up and nobody locked their doors. We were the only household that will lock their doors in my childhood. And it was, and it was, it was, there were agreements. If you, if you made an agreement, you said this was your word, your workers, your reputation. And I think because everybody was You know, you knew everybody in the neighborhood. Like we used to, we would joke, if we did something bad at the top end of our street, by the time we walked home, we were already grounded for two weeks

because our parents would know before we even got there, right? And, you know, this is not the power of the internet. The neighbors knew the neighbor, knew the other neighbor, knew the other neighbor, and they knew whose kids we were. So there was no way of hiding from any of that. So there was a different level of, I guess, trust and knowingness, and then your neighbor would watch kind of your house knowing you were gone. And it was just a different feel. I don't even know if that exists today. Well, I know it's inaccessible. When I was working on the presidential campaign, I know I put out all these memes. And George actually reached out to me and said, listen,

my family member looked at this and said, Like she doesn't believe it because I have like pictures of like families or whatever. It was like somewhat of an iconic fifties kind of thing. And this person's generation is like, thinks that's fake and exist. So, so literally if you're a millennial or if you're a Gen Z and you like, you know, go leave it to beaver, somebody is going to be like that, that didn't exist. That that's actually fake. That's like science fiction. That's not even that the nuclear family, this whole setup that we'll think about it. There are a couple of generations of people that don't even think that existed, that that's a fiction. Well,

there was always an old saying that if you can take something away and take it out of society for a generation, the next generation coming up will never even miss it. So, you know, Big Oil did that with, you know, remember they did that with prohibitions. Because farmers were using, they were making their own moonshine, but they were running their tractors and farm equipment on it. Well, they wanted everybody dependent on big oil. So that prohibition, part of the push for prohibition had to do with the Standard Oil Company. And then it was what, twenty-two years? That was what your average generation was back then. It was about twenty-two years. And then they, okay, well, it was a failure.

We're just letting everybody have alcohol again. Little, you know, the government poisoned people. They would poison the alcohol so people wouldn't drink. We wouldn't even go there. But that was one of the things. And so in this kind of situation, generational information gap happens so much quicker. Like today, driver's ed includes showing your child how to change a tire on the car because oftentimes their father doesn't know how to change or that either parent knows how to change a tire on a car. which was something that like my children weren't allowed to drive a car until they knew how to change a tire. I wasn't allowed to drive a car until I knew how to change a tire and my own oil.

So it's a, it's very, very different, but sorry, George, go ahead. I'm going to invoke, uh, I'm not the hugest fan of Einstein, but, uh, he might be right about time space being one. And so what I hear us talking about right now is that depending on your geolocation and time, let me simplify that. Some people in some places live the fifties reality longer than

others. Does that make sense? Yes, it does. Okay. So the fifties in New England, was far different than I'm going to sound really woke by saying this, but the fifties in Sub-Saharan Africa. So the point that I'm trying to make is that I'm going to circle back to circles.

I'm going to circle back to the reality that you experience based on the fundamental beliefs of those around you. And fuck, this is going to sound woke. Forgive those that do not know, but don't assume that what you hold to be true is currently accessible to those maybe even as far away as dorchester or those that get the

reference to that that my my point is that uh good luck lifting yourself up but maybe just maybe how you can accelerate your own perspective in reality is by giving compassion. You know, when I say compassion, I'm not saying enabling. I'm saying understanding and opportunity to those that are looking for a way out. And for the record, by no means Am I moving to LA? Hope not. Yeah.

I mean, again, I, so to me, a lot of this is yes, you should do that. And you, you also like whether time actually exists, it, it may, it does, it is a variable, even if it's a simulated variable. And so you have to figure out where you're going to spend your attention and how are you going to spend your attention in a way that arguably that maximizes, even maximizes the most good. Because if you're going around and you're working on situations that are hopeless, then that's time and attention that's not going somewhere else. People are at different parts of the journey, but there is kind of a, you gotta push things given the resource

constraints that you have. Thank you. so uh if if if we even end into here and uh you know if you get that down to the lower questions that i put out there in jest uh the point that i hope to make here and now and today is that time doesn't exist perception is reality if you want to change your reality change your perception and if you want to change your perception It's as simple as changing your attention. I'm sure we could have, these are first principles that we can have people that would debate you on that and want to have different positions on.

But I hear what you're saying. I mean, that is actually, there's a whole, whatever, I don't even know how to address that yet. There's watching this jasara nasara stuff was really frustrating and actually somewhat demoralizing and and part of it is that it's there's a whole this whole galactic federation there's there's a lot of fake there are manufactured belief systems that have been planted to

John Gerstle, Basically, cause people to give up their free will and i'm not even sure how i'm going off on this tangent because it's not entirely related at all to what you just said. John Gerstle, But it is something that that occurred to me just as I was even working on this this talk that I don't know if they if I played the clip where they were talking about St germain and you know. St. Germain said that we have to do this prosperity gospel debt jubilee and he manages a trillion dollars and it was ascended masters and all this other stuff. And it's just the level of trying to track down the origin of this stuff is kind of interesting. And some of it actually is the CIA.

Some of the new age movement was pushed by intelligence agencies, but I don't know. I don't even know where I'm going with this other than to say, there are, there are people doing nothing, but holding and while doing nothing, holding a set of beliefs that was pushed by people that want them to abandon their free will. And that's very unfortunate. I think as you were, you were researching this and then you were looking at some of the numbers of followers that people were having, like how many people, how many impressions or how many people saw this? I think that's what was, I think, crushing because it's the same thing with

like the whole QAnon movement, which I guess is kind of built off of this, that you have large groups of people that they could be doing so many other things that are actually going to, you know, move the boat forward or move forward, helping themselves and their families. And yet they're caught up in this. And, yeah, you got really frustrated today. And I could see that you were just disheartened. by the numbers, the sheer numbers of people and for how long this has gone on for. And like, have you done any research? Have people, I mean, the question is like,

what makes, I guess from myself is it's like, so how did somebody get there? You know, they went on some kind of a journey somehow, however their life brought them to the point where they believe all of those things or enough of them that they're willing to go for that, jump on that ride. What brought them there? Those are my questions, wanting to have that deeper understanding of what transpired in their life or what situation are they at, that that was the last thing that made them go, I'm going to sign up and go on this ride instead. Well, I mean, this actually relates to George's next question on this as well, because who should I follow on social media?

Because even related to how people got to that content, I think they were pushed to that content. Yes. And so I genuinely want to know who is behind Q, because it isn't fucking military intelligence. Or if it is, it's for the purpose of disarming people and manipulating them. There's no white knight aspect to this at all. But equally along with this, when you ask the question, who should I follow on social media, I'm now realizing this is all completely sculpted. The fact that these accounts have all of this traffic, I don't think is even because of natural demand. I think that it's been completely and totally manipulated. Now, either it's been manipulated directly by

the social media platforms or by people using buying bots to manipulate the social media platforms. But either way, this stuff is We do not have a public square. We have nothing even remotely. We have an interconnected network of porta potties. We have absolutely no public square whatsoever. And that pisses me off. I am actually pretty upset about the fact That a lot of people think we have free speech, because then when you dig into this, I'm just kind of like, okay, so let me get this straight. I post something and a random percentage of point two percent of the people that voluntarily decided to follow me are going to see it. How is that a public square?

The entire determination of you said your perception changes your reality. Your perception is being determined algorithmically by people that do not have your interests at heart. And that is actually what is driving most people's perception when you look at screen time. So most people's attention is going into these devices, and that attention is so highly manipulated that I'm, you know, Elon Musk is a worse actor than even the people that are pushing Jussara and Nassar. So, okay, when you and I were doing way back when and involved in politics, there were voter lists that you can buy. And how many metrics? Now, this was, what, fifteen years ago? Oh yeah, at least a hundred, right?

You could buy a hundred, and you'd get a hundred metrics on each person. Like, okay, is this person like camping, hiking? What magazines do they have? It was a whole plethora of lists. And this was, this was, Do they have cats or dogs? Cats or dogs. So all of this information was available a long time ago. So just now think of how much that, you know, n factorial this has gone up with AI and the amount of data surveillance that they have from everything. I mean, like, you know, Google predicting flu outbreaks before they actually happened, but based on people's searches. So all of that stuff's been collected. And so of course they're going to target them.

And these are, these are not targeted ads. Like, like you get a targeted ad, you know, I just searched for shoes and Macy's and then I go look someplace else and I get all these, all these, these little ads coming up for Macy's and shoes on the side. It's not the same thing. Um, it's, it's, they're manipulating your perception and driving you through, through clicks to what shows up on your feeds, what shows up where, and that's how I think they're, they're, they're trapping these people. Um, into they're vulnerable to a certain point and then they're, they're just leading them to the place where they want them to go. And the longer you spend on some of these, these things, the,

the worse it gets, cuz your brain, again, you talked about an earlier podcast. I'm sure you know which number, um, your brain hits this, this theta brain state where it makes you so incredibly just to reiterate, I opened a new tab in my browser. and started typing in what percentage and Google guessed that I was going to ask what percentage of people are narcissists. If that's not way fucked up, what is? Yep. Well, I mean, they're clearly, they're listening. So they're hearing, they're hearing this and, and, you know, You can even see it.

So, so here's the thing. Oh, I didn't even play the video clip of, of all of the modern podcasters that are talking. Oh, play this. Did I play that? Can I play that real quick? Go ahead. I don't remember which ones you played. Hold on. Oh, I took it down, but hold on. Let me, let me add this. You are here. I might've played it. I'm trying to remember. Cause I, but the way that I, so to create this video clip, I was able to use AI to say, okay, I found here are ten videos on Rumble. Take the most egregious examples and consolidate them into a five or ten minute clip. And it literally downloaded it, created the transcription,

cut the videos into different pieces, then reassemble them and then put in the title page. And I'm saying that just because what you're typing here, they're transcribing in real time and they're storing, that's literally how it works. So, so now at this point, because storage is so cheap, yeah, they're recording, they're taking the video, they're taking the audio and they're taking the text. And, and I'm saying that from direct experience now, seeing how easy this is to do at this point. I mean, I, I can do it fairly easily. Yeah. All right. Let me see if I can find this. Um, Let's see if this is it. Okay. Student loans have been down. Social security has been down.

Wells Fargo, you can access. So has Citibank, as well as certain credit card services are down. I've been keeping track of what's going on behind the scenes with Deserve for quite some time. So I'm really happy to share with you the positive news that things are wrapping up. No other person can access your accounts and no banks. Banks will no longer be in control. So I know a lot of people, especially ones that never had a lot of money, which is the majority of us, they were real scared about the banks interfering, taking funds and so forth. That won't be possible under this new system. All of these old bankers, billionaires and all that, you have to realize that these beings are

losing this almost exactly the same but it's not gonna save Federal Reserve on it no more. That's only gonna be for maybe a couple months, maybe to the end of the year, maybe sooner. It's gonna just fade away, go away. So just an interesting observation. Obviously, we know our dollar's worth shit. It's worth nothing to toilet paper, okay? So this is a registration paper. Student loans have been down. Social Security has been down. Wells Fargo, you can access. So has Citibank, as well as certain credit card services are down. I've been keeping track of what's going on behind the scenes with Deserve for quite some time.

So I'm really happy to share with you the positive news that things are wrapping up. No other person can access your accounts and no banks. Banks will no longer be in control. So I know a lot of people, especially ones that never had a lot of money, which is the majority of us, they were real scared about the banks interfering, taking funds and so forth. That won't be possible under this new system. All of these old bankers, billionaires and all that, you have to realize that these beings are losing this almost exactly the same but it's not going to say Federal Reserve on it no more. That's only going to be for maybe a couple months, maybe to the end of the year, maybe sooner.

It's going to just fade away, go away. So just an interesting observation. Obviously, we know our dollar's worth shit. It's worth nothing to toilet paper, okay? So this is a registration paper for New South Wales, Australia. Look here, we've got dollar sign, dollar sign, dollar sign, dollar sign. This was six, seven months ago, so this is yesterday. And we've got this symbol now. Now, that's a generic currency symbol. It doesn't mean dollar. That's just a symbol for generic currency. Once that's fading away, they're going to bring the rainbow currency out, and then that's when everybody's going to be like, oh, shit, we got a new rainbow currency. What's going to happen before that,

there's going to be... ...hundred kilometers long, thirty meters wide, thirty meters high. This was reported on Scott McKay. Dr. Charlie Ward, Michael Jotko, Nino Rodriguez, and, and, and, and, and, and. Took many, many C-E-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C-C- In nineteen ninety one, General Lloyd Schlesinger went before a committee to present evidence of the bank's and government's criminal activity. He informed. That was a small segment, I actually had.

They could have gone on forever. I mean, that wasn't the clip that I wanted. There's one where people were praying and was bringing in St. Germain. Like, you watch the stuff. It's like, George, when we had that office building and we have the the one nine hundred number of people that were doing the mind reading or whatever that was. Fortune telling and Dionne Warwick or whatever. It had some celebrities involved, that whole thing. Hold on. I appreciate your perspective all the time. And multiple times have you talked about

the office building and on a floor above us. And for anybody, the reason why I love Aaron is because he's bass rock. and the office space that uh aaron's office occupied was at the ground level and it used to be a bank and we had a giant vault in the center of it but regardless above us was a whole bunch of fort lauderdale and he often references the psychics that occupied a floor doing

their own scam. But my best recollection of going to the upper floors in that building is when we went like, you know, maybe it was the sixth, seventh, eighth, forgive me. And there were some guys up there that were doing a Ponzi. You know, Aaron has always been battling against the Ponzi fuckers. And those guys had this great idea on how they might sell premium steak to a whole bunch of people. And we went into their conference room and for whatever reason,

Aaron invited me to go up there. There was no reason why I should have been up there, but I jumped up to their whiteboard and I explained to them, that one of my previous girlfriends was the great great granddaughter of Charlie Ponzi, true fact. And I asked them, how does anybody that buys into your business not suffer the same fate as all those that followed my girlfriend's great great grandfather down a chain that will never make them

whole and uh you know maybe aaron you you have i that that's as much as i remember maybe you can remember how our relationship with those jackasses on that floor ended i don't even remember i like like i'm i'm failing to remember the details of this What about when Michael Jackson's brother showed up at our offices? At some point, we didn't pursue that investment. Here's the thing I love about you the most. You have turned down more money than anybody else I know.

That is true. I have turned down a lot of money. Yeah, that was Randy Jackson. We were... working with that distributor uh music district cd distributor and they and they came in and it was randy jackson and some other guy i don't even remember what it was that they wanted to invest in but it was the weirdest it was the weirdest thing i mean really i guess i've seen enough scams that that does kind of piss me off and from from fort lauderdale perspective um there was the calling card multi-level marketing scam there was just you know i i Actually, we've met so many shady. I've forgotten a lot of us now. Now I got to go back and think about this. But of course,

the worst ones are the ones on Wall Street. Hands down, those are actually the biggest scammers. But I mean, I don't know. So we're not going to get out of this one pines at a time. This is the problem. The problem is that where we're at is This is why I'm like, if we don't steer people towards business models where there's mutual gain, then we're going to end up in kind of a Hunger Games situation by default because no one's producing anything. If the entire basis of the economy is people trying to rip each other off, that will devolve to violence because that is the only end point where that is. Because at some point, if you're just trying to accumulate

paper representations of IOUs and not actually building or creating anything, then society will not be able to continue to operate. But we're really far away. We are so much further away from that. We're not moving towards that at all. I can't honestly say there's any movement in the right direction. I hope something catalyzes it. I mean, it's tough to find people to work on projects. Like, I don't, I can't even imagine, you know, from what I hear, like the corporate culture that we had when we were, you know, seven people or whatever. I mean, that can't even exist today. You have people that go into the workforce and they're like, I can't work an eight hour day.

And they're like freaking out. They can't make eye contact with their employer. They have to bring their parent. Like we actually have a completely non-functional society from an economic perspective. And so I guess we better hope that these robots provide complete, you know, one million X productivity improvements because literally humans have lost the ability to produce things. They haven't, it didn't go anywhere. It's just been forgotten. It's just, it's just been forgotten. It's been, it's been, it's just like curiosity. Children's curiosity has been kind of, you know, indoctrinated out of them through the

education system. It's a learned degree. I'm fortunate enough to have two nephews under seven. We can get into all the bullshit about under seven or uh what i can express right now is there's always hope i mean any star wars fan out there watching this believes in new hope right and uh never i'm not talking to the two of you i'm just talking to anybody out there that's listening to us now is never give up never fear always have help for the next

generation Yeah, you know, there's certainly hope, but there's a way it's getting more challenging. And again, I don't even know what the answer is, because I actually don't think I think there's a huge disagreement. I, you know, AI is I can tell you AI is a force multiplier. I'm going to be able to one thousand action on productivity. It's already happening almost on a daily basis. Like I'm getting twenty five percent compound daily gains. And so the effect of that is going to be that there is going to be a lot of, of wealth created a lot of, a lot of, a lot of products and things that are, that are, that are created. And I don't, I don't actually think now how it breaks

is a different situation, but I don't, people have pinned their identity to their being a cog in an economic machine. And that's going to go away, but I'm going to pull up this quote from John Quincy Adams. which is I'm a warrior so that my son may be a merchant so that his son may be a poet, which, you know, a lot of people don't want to talk about that. People want to talk about the fact that, well, hard work, you know, working in a machine for, you know, Rockefeller and whatever that thing is, that isn't necessarily the entire meaning of life. The problem is that people aren't So it's okay that you know, maybe in that sense, but the curiosity has been bred out of people,

people that there's a lack of purpose, the purpose doesn't have to be to be a cognitive and economic machine, but there's a fundamental lack of even curiosity about purpose. Meaning there's there's there's not a quest for meaning and part of that is because technocrats are driving a view. That we don't have free will and that everything is based on materialism. And that is the problem. So we've actually kind of zapped that out. Of course, there's always hope. But again, hope in the absence of action, hope in the absence of taking control of your thoughts, actions, and emotions is meaningless. That's true.

There's a reason why I invoke a Canadian rock band Rush when my alter ego is today's Tom Sawyer. But why am I here? I'm in it for the great great grandchildren I'm never going to meet. And time perspective. And my point is, We've been through a lot. We've seen an incredible amount of bullshit from jackasses that don't even realize that they're creating multi-level

marketing scams in an office building in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, to people that you and I know that have and are participating in uh the highest offices in dc and back to the narcissists know they're narcissists those guys don't i mean you and i both know a really good guy who is uh all about humanity plus And he would put chips in his great great grandchildren. I wouldn't.

And I'm not speaking for him. But my point is, is I think there are more people believing that they're doing good enough to the point where they compromise free will. So I you know, to we haven't gotten through all my questions that I sent you. But Anybody listening to this right now? Just have a time perspective, you know, that goes back beyond the pyramids.

As much as your ego wants you to believe that you're important, the reality is you're In my opinion, you're only here to pass the seed on to generations beyond you. And I know I'm not trying to tell anybody that they're insignificant because you're very significant. and your intention and your knowledge and your experience and your wisdom. And what I mean by wisdom is your opinion is probably going to change over time. So be adamant about what you believe in

now, but reserve the right to change. And if you ever have your great grandchild, grandchild, uh, child in your presence, you know, good luck having your child ever listen to anything you fucking say. But maybe maybe just maybe if you're a grandparent, that next generation will give you a little bit more credibility because you might just have enough wisdom for their perspective. But just plant the seeds. And what the hell do I know? But maybe just maybe those seeds are believing yourself only.

Be able to filter the bullshit even when you want to believe. And at the end of the day, trust your gut, follow your heart, and do good. And if you don't know what good is, you might be a fucking narcissist. Well. All right. There you go. We're coming up on four hours, so maybe we can go through these last ones somewhat quickly. So what small actions I know, should those listening now take? I think we've touched that. Reclaim your free will, take control of your own, be your own white knight, I think is probably reasonable.

Question narrative. If you're believing some big story, where's... Where's the evidence backing it? Where's the, as Erin listed off earlier, that, you know, here's some points to think about. They're always moving the goalposts. They're always this. There are these signs. It's like getting an email from somebody you don't know. Is it a phishing email? Let me see. If I just hover my mouse over, I'm going to see the actual real... email address or the URL that they're trying to send me to is a phishing email. So there's questions that you ask before you go ahead and click on that attachment that's urgently saying you have to open it because, you know, the IRS is coming after you or some

silly thing that somebody would send an email with. So think about it. Be skeptical and ask questions. So if you have a friend or a loved one who believes in some of this, ask them a question and I mean, they may find you incredibly annoying, but just ask is so, so have you done any research on this? So the people who are saying this, how do you, how do they know that what they know? And, and I, it, it is just planting the seeds of, of doubt and some skepticism because, um, yeah. So, yeah. I, I mean, you're making me think those ED pills aren't coming in the mail. You know, there's that prince that didn't leave you

from whatever country. Sandra says, trust your wife. That's good advice. Although it's situational, but it is. What do you mean? Situational. No, that's good advice. Why shouldn't I opt out and build an alternative reality? What do you mean, why shouldn't you? alternative reality well i suppose if you get into a deep meditation you or you could go easily inside into an alternative reality at any point in time so um but that when you come when you come to george all the problems will still be here that that is that is the challenge so So, oh, how do I sign up for a romance

scam, AKA quantum financial advice? Well, if you can't figure out how to do that, I don't know what to tell you because there are thousands of videos and hundreds of thousands of hours and, you know, probably at two hundred influencers that can help you with that. Yeah. I really feel rejected because I have not, uh, I haven't gotten any DMS recently to sign up for any of those things. So am I not good enough? I don't know. You're just not, you're not on the target target list. I bet if you went to any of those podcasters and liked a couple of those podcasts, they would find you.

So last question, do you have any recommendations for a sneaker brand? I do not. I think you were referring to the, um, that cult in California who were waiting for the comet? Is that what you're referring to in that one, George? if we can't end off with the last two questions for comedy then how are we going to end this thing I don't get that so the entire cult they killed themselves but they had like the white they were all dressed in white and they covered themselves in their white blankets after they did that but they all had matching tennis shoes they all had matching sneakers what brand I think they

were kids I don't know I'm trying to go back. I, I, I, I don't recall the brand, but, uh, they, they found them all quietly asleep waiting for the, uh, UFO to pick them all up. It was the comment. Yeah. Yeah. That one. Um, I don't remember what year that was. I'm waiting for the dead Jubilee. Wait, they were waiting for the dead Jubilee. Well, yeah, I know you don't recall this Aaron, but, uh, in the early days of the offices in Fort Lauderdale, we were all giggling about their website.

Which website? I think it was actually a Texas cult. They didn't James Jones it. They ate something, but they didn't drink Kool-Aid, and they all wore the same sneakers. Heaven's Gate. I think it's Heaven's Gate. There you go. That's it is. Heaven's Gate. I couldn't remember the name of it. Was it Texas? I thought it was California. I thought it was California, but who knows? If anybody thinks I'm right, about fifty percent of this should I spew tonight. Good luck. All right.

Well, does anybody have anything else? I think it's about time to, it's been four hours. I think it's time to hit the dusty trail, as they say. I'm ready for bed. It's past my bedtime. All right. Well, thank you for coming on, George. Thank you for coming on. This was this was great. And we crossed the mm number, which is actually, which isn't bad. It's still down from where it was, but it is what it is. It gets listened to after the fact, and I haven't been doing clips. So once I get some some of the stuff automated, we'll get some more, more views out of this. But this is helpful. And I hope we get more people to step up and

Talk, because actually, to me, to your point, to me, it's not about views, just people interacting and then doing things. I don't even care about the number of views, particularly in light of realizing how fake all of this stuff is. I'm just hoping that people like conversation and like interacting, because where does that even happen? That doesn't happen on any... no major platform, right? There's no, where do you actually have substantive conversation about things? And I don't know where it is. But you're at home every day. You're here at home every day, honey, all day. That's true. All right. Well, thank you, George. Thank you, lovely wife. Hope you hopefully will come on more.

I'll think about it. Think about it. All right. And thank you, everybody who's if you're still listening. We'll be back Monday at six p.m. And I'm not sure what the topic is, but we'll send that around soon. And hopefully people will get used to the new schedule. I know this is only a couple of weeks in on this. So it's a new time and then a new day as well, Monday at six o'clock. So with that, I'll play a song that I wrote for this particular, well, I used AI for this particular episode on the way out and look forward to chatting with everybody soon. Bye. A twenty-five year scam, dressed up in light They sold you freedom, but caged you in night Necessary dreams,

a dove's invention Congress never signed that fiction From Goodwin's lie to the scam's new fame The flame of the next week pulls you deeper inside Every promise a chain you can't untie Pay to play, the auction's a lie Pieces vanish when the money's right You keep on hoping but the system's tight Same con, new suit

Coinbase paid the gavel drop Kraken bowed, the charges stopped Gemini's millions greased the floor But cypherpunks still face the war Foreign money in the family's hand TV castles built on

Genes Act, the backdoor keys, twenty-seven trillion under watchful eyes, no CBDCs, a hollow plea, surveillance dressed in a new disguise. Pay to play the opera. They sell you freedom,

but deliver chains Different scam, same remains