S2E37: Roger Ver FREE + Freedom Dollar Giveaway

[Music] [Music] They want to give him 109 for following the legal line. Bitcoin Jesus paid his dues. Now they trying to make him lose. Free fear. Can't silence the truth. Free fear. Breaking their own rules. Free your home prison Spain. Now they doing it again. First investor in the game. Now they want to kill his flame. Hired lawyers did it right. Still they want to pick a fight. Core devs change the protocol. Government wants to control. Attorney

client privilege dead using compliance plans instead. Yeah. First investor in the game. Now they want to kill his flame. Hired lawyers did it right. Still they want to pick a fight. Core deaths change the protocol. Government wants total control. Attorney client privilege dead using compliance plans instead. Yeah. Free [Music] block got the way back then. One make blocks. Remember when big blocks meant decentralized. Small blocks kept us paralyzed. Now they're coming for the king using laws

like puppet strings. Spanish prison. McAfee died. Making sure V stays inside. They can raid the lawyers. What? They can seize the files. Yeah, but they can't stop Krypto. Running wild. Running wild. Brownstone dropping truth bombs daily. System going crazy lately trying to lock up Bitcoin Jesus. But they cannot defeat us. Fear saw freedom in the code. Now they want to block his road, but the movement's too damn strong. And this persecution's wrong. Free here. [Music]

Free here. Free fear. Free fear. >> Down 9 years for following legal advice. That's not justice. That's a warning. >> Free Roger. [Music] I grew up in the US and uh I see all

these people like, "Yeah, nuke everybody in the Middle East and kill them all." And then they have the former Secretary of State Maline Albbright on 60 Minutes, one of the most popular news shows in the US. And they asked her, they said, like there's reports that more than half a million Iraqi children have died as a direct result of US sanctions. And she looks back at her with a straight face and she goes, "It was a really tough decision, but I think that it was worth it." >> You know, is the price worth it? I think this is a very hard choice, but the price, we think the price is worth it. >> Worth murdering half a million kids because of what the government did. And

I apologize for crying, but it just disgusts me from my core when I see government people murdering people around the world. It's not just theoretical. These are real people with real lives. And Bitcoin has the power to undermine everything they're doing to people around the world. And I'm sorry for shouting, but it just disgusts me what these people in government do. And they do it through central banking and through the control of the money supply. And Bitcoin takes that away from them. I got to stand up because I'm just so excited about Bitcoin. I can't talk about it while sitting down. So, anybody here that's sick of the government inflating the money supply to

pay to kill people all around the world, stop using their money. Use Bitcoin. I The answer is here. We can put a stop to all of that. You don't have to support them in any way. Start using Bitcoin. There are so many websites that accept Bitcoin now. More and more coming online every day. If you have a business, you need to start accepting Bitcoin. What Bitcoin allow is every single person in this room and on the planet who has access to the internet, you can have your own private bank account, right? It's called a Bitcoin account. And it's impossible for the government to seize your account. It's mathematically impossible for anyone to block you from sending or receiving money with anyone

else anywhere in the world. And if you're careful about how you use it, it can be done anonymously as well. This totally strips government's control over the money supply away. There is nothing they can do about it. There's no way they can stop it. The only way they could stop it would be to shut down the entire internet in the entire world. And that's not going to happen. I'm This is what every libertarian's absolute dream come true. It's here and it's called Bitcoin. And we need to spread the word to everybody about it. And I'm glad you guys are here and we're here to answer your questions about it. And when you're done learning about it here today, tell your friends, tell your family, help

them set up Bitcoin wallets. Help tell everybody that you know about Bitcoin. Anytime you need to buy something, ask the merchant if they'll allow you to pay in Bitcoin. And anytime you receive US dollars, convert them to bitcoins, then use them as bitcoins. We need to spread this. And the world is going to be a much much much better place because of it. And it's not a question of if this is going to happen. It's just a question of how soon it's going to happen. And with your help, we can make it happen sooner rather than later. From Silicon Valley to the Spanish

shore, fighting for freedom, but they want something more. 10 months in prison just for speaking his mind. Now they're coming back trying to leave him behind. [Music] 109 years for following the law. [Music] Most corrupt case that you ever saw. [Music] They can't silence the truth. They can't change what's right. Bitcoin Jesus

showed us all how to stand up and fight. Free free Roger. [Music] Free free Roger. Now hired the best lawyers. did everything right. Still they raided offices in the dead of night. Used his own compliance as evidence of guilt. Now his freedom hangs on the empire they build. Speaking truth to power comes with a price. But we won't let them sacrifice.

Oh, they can't silence the truth. They can't change what's right. Bitcoin Jesus showed us all how to stand up and fight. [Music] Roger. Now when they come for one of us, they come for all. [Music] Either stand together now or watch freedom fall.

They can't silence the truth. They can't change what's right. Bitcoin Jesus showed us all how to stand up and fight. [Music]

They said it's for safety. They said it's for peace. But they put the cage up first. Then they hid the keys. Roger via 109 years. Ian framed up engineered with fears. Roman road made privacy strong. They call it a crime. When freedom belongs, we won't let them fade away. We will shout their names today. [Applause]

Free them now. Follow the law. Still put them in chains. Freedom's a target. Control the game. Change the face. But the hands the same. Catching the ball while they curse your name. We will not be silent. We will not stand by. Their fight is our fight till the day they fly. Free rise over free the unree free ro free them now

free [Music] free them Free them now. Free ro free. Free free them now.

We don't bow. We don't break. We don't give what they can take. We don't bow. We don't break. We don't give what they can take. Roger stood with fire in his hand. We went built a haven on free land. Roman wrote the cold they fear the most. Now they're ghosts in love machine they

[Music] dress it up as law and order [Music] but it chains across the border. Can't hide the truth in paper lies. >> Freedom's got a billion eyes. We don't bow. We don't break. We don't give what they can take. Write our names in fire and go. We won't do what we are told. We don't

bow. We don't break. Hey 014067 a law that kills the hope we're given but paper crowns will wash away when the people rise one day in Roman's name We'll sing along. We'll light that flame. [Applause] Every cage they try to build. We'll break when voices won't be still.

Roger. We will stand for you. >> We will fight it through. >> Your code will run. >> Freedom has just begun. We don't bow. >> We don't bow. We don't pray. >> We don't pray. >> We don't give what they can take. We don't bow. We don't pray. We don't give what they can take. Write our names in fire and go. We won't do what we are told. We don't bow. We don't break.

We don't give what they can take. Welcome back to the Aaron Day Show. This is a very special episode. This is season 2, episode 37. This one's called Victory, Value, and Voluntary Commerce. So, this is very exciting. Tonight, we get to celebrate the fact that uh Roger Roger Beer is officially free. He's settled his case with uh with the federal government after what appears to have been 507 days since his initial

arrest in Spain. And so if you are someone who frequently watches this program, you'll know that this has been a big topic of conversation uh on this podcast and something I've spent a great deal of time working on and trying to raise awareness on this situation. Uh so this is a a big deal, huge news for uh anyone around the world who's interested in freedom and anyone who's interested in justice. So spread the word. Very very glad to hear that. And so tonight we're going to we're going to talk a little bit about that. It'll be interesting to see who shows up in the Q&A. I actually ran out of time to even send the link around for this episode. So if you could please like and share

this. The numbers are pretty light right now and frankly they should be pretty pretty high given how much uh attention and effort we've spent on this uh on these topics over the last 18 months. So, we greatly appreciate uh if you could like and share the link to this podcast. And so, in addition to talking about Roger tonight, we're going to follow up on last uh last week's episode. And I'll just go through that here. Um well, before I do that, I encourage you to check out uh season 2, episode 36. We had Courtney uh Turner on again and we we spoke about the dark enlightenment and you know what's going on with Curtis Jarvin and Nick Land and all of those things. Again, critically

important that people understand the actual threat that we have right now, which is not Republican versus Democrat, it's about technocracy and the fight for freedom. uh the week or excuse me the episode before that is an important one and it actually ties to tonight's episode which was entitled Freedom Dollar Defeats CBDC's and so in that episode I walked through what's going on with CBDC's and stable coins centrally issued stable coins and tracked stable coins and how Freedom Dollar built on Zeno is a counter to that freedom dollar is a privacy stable coin that's not backed by US Treasury. So, you're not supporting wars and tyranny

around the world. You're actually able to use a privacy coin that's backed by over collateralized Zeno and completely private. So, this is one of the best counters that we have to the threat of technocracy and I did a giveaway on that which we'll we'll talk about uh tonight. I've I've already notified the 20 winners and some have already redeemed their uh redeemed and have received $11 worth of Freedom Dollar. And we'll walk through a little bit of the mechanics on that. But Freedom Dollar is a huge tool in our arsenal. And it's not just Freedom Dollar. You can actually offload your Freedom Dollar to a nonKYC debit card, Mastercard, that you can use at a 100 million merchants

around the world. And so part of the giveaway was to give people enough freedom dollar that they could actually load it onto a card and spend it directly. So I think this combination of freedom dollar and the ZIC masterard is going to be a terrific way to accelerate getting people into the ecosystem. The week before that we went through on season 2 episode 34 and discussed uh digital IDs and the fact that even though I follow technocracy you know fulltime and one of my big issues is to alert people to technocracy. I hadn't even kept track of how quickly digital IDs are expanding around the world. 17 countries representing three billion

people just signed digital IDs into law. They use the same three vendors and they're looking at a roll out of next year or early 2007. Mexico Q1 of next year will have nationwide a full digital ID tied to a QR code tied to biometrics that will be enforced by employers. Employers who do not check and track digital ID will be immediately put out of business. This is a really draconian implementation and I think it caught a lot of people off guard. In fact, most people still don't know about it. I know a lot of people that have recently moved to Mexico and I think maybe weren't aware of exactly how fast things are moving. And so, and then of course we have Real ID here in the

United States which is digital in 11 states, 20 more states rolling it out digitally by the end of this year. So technocracy is not something that's going to happen in the future. Temocracy is here now. And technocracy is something that is not just for other countries. It's not just a WF initiative. It's not something that just is going through the UN. Temocracy is flourishing here in the United States, which is why it is critical that we start moving to these decentralized alternatives as quickly as humanly possible. So, I'm going to share uh the official statement. This is the only statement that Roger has made. I don't even know if he's going to be doing any

interviews or talking about this publicly at all. So, this is all that we have officially, which is I'm very grateful this case has been dismissed and appreciate the Trump administration's leadership and professionalism in working towards this final resolution. I am also grateful to everyone who supported me and sought justice in my case, Roger V. So, so there it is. Uh uh last week I talked about the fact that there was this New York Times article that stated that there was a tentative deal and I wasn't so eager to jump up and down about that because frankly I thought unlikely that this news would break in the New York Times. If anything, if it was in the New

York Times it was to try to tank the deal. But I think the deal was official two days ago. So it wasn't actually it was still tentative when the New York Times reported on it which is why I didn't want to you know do any kind of victory dance because frankly I didn't have any any knowledge to the contrary that the deal was finalized. So this is the official statement. You can read the official agreement that's online. It's been published. I'm not going to talk about the deal itself or or anything other than to say that um uh you know, you certainly know my opinion on government, but I'm very grateful that uh that Roger is is escaping the cage and uh and is

the world is a better place with him out and free. And so this is uh this is great news, but it doesn't change the fact that technocracy is still accelerating at a rapid pace. One other thing update that happened this week, you know, since I really do focus on solutions. I mean, a lot of this is pointing out what the problem is, but at the end of the day, what I'm trying to do here is build a community of people that want to take their free will back and want to take action and start building alternatives and using alternatives. This is the the whole key of this. So, to me, this isn't about getting numbers of views or likes or, you know, generating ad revenue or

anything like this. How many people have stopped using the dollar? How many people uh are moving away from big tech and using decentralized alternatives? Those are the things that ultimately ultimately matter as we're fighting technocracy. Uh there's a great tool that was released by Mike Adams this week. It's the um his Enoch AI. And the Enoch AI has been available through his website for a while uh through Brighton. But now you can actually download the AI onto your local computer and use it without being connected to the internet. And so what I like to say with this is I mean I always talk about self-custody, the importance of self-custody with crypto. Even the

importance of self-custody with precious metals. I mean you don't want to if you have a third party or a vault that's holding your gold, you really don't own it. You already don't own your 401ks. You don't own your ETFs. Well, this is definitely true with with AI as well. I mean, if you're using it and it's online, it can always be cut off. But if you're using these online models, they're subject to censorship and manipulation, which we know already goes on. And I think we know a lot about the ideology of of the people that are running some of these, you know, tied with effective altruism and some other ideologies. So this is critical that you can now download uh an entire model onto

your computer uh and use it without without any connection, without even having to be online. I I and I've actually just did an interview with Mike. He had me on Decentralized TV again today. I'm going to have him on next week. He will be on Thursday where we're going to go and do a deep dive on this, but I've been playing with it on my on my own computer. I think this is a a great leap for humanity. What he's done here, he's put $2 million of his own money into creating this and giving it away for free so that people can have it on their own computer. And he's talked about how he's trained this. So, I mean, he has taken all of the news that he's collected, alternative, well,

what's considered alternative health information, which should be the standard practice health information. Um, you know, he was just telling me today that he had some massive amount, 700 terabytes of information or something that that he had just translated a bunch of Chinese text and information about health related matters that he's training the data set on. So this is the data that you're not going to get through any of the other models. when you use open AI or you use you know claude or even grock you know you'll notice that when it scour the results it's still going to these sources like Wikipedia or WebMD you know it's really not trained on

interesting information it's still using largely these sources that are suspicious at best so this is a great wealth of information and I will tell you this is a you can see the screenshot here this is um the first the first thing that I did with it was I actually asked it well where the you know give me the top 10 cures for cancer in a table and lo and lo and behold it actually gave gave that information back. So there's information in here that you know you're not going to get anywhere else and it's very interesting and very useful information. So please check that out. Um the download here is brightu.ai AI slashd downloadd downloads. And again, this is free and and something

you can even put on a thumb drive and share with your friends and family. So, great job, Mike. And uh and I hope many of you download this and realize that you can actually have now an AI in your own hands, in your own possession without being connected to the internet. So, tonight I'm going to do I don't have any I don't have a lot of like formal slides or anything put together. Tonight is going to be more about just showand tell. I'm going to be showing some of the websites that we put together. We're going to walk through some of the things that that exist and some of the new offerings like the uh point of sales system. Um so I'm going to start with uh you know on this

this issue of what's just happened with Roger. This has been part of a a broader initiative that I've been working on well for a long time actually since before Roger was even arrested. Um when I wrote my book when I wrote the final countdown I discussed in the book not only the coming threat of CBDC's but also the fact that at the time we were going to be seeing a crackdown on crypto. So this is before it actually happened. Well Ian's case had already happened. he was, but he hadn't been through the sentencing phase yet. And so part of of writing the book was to warn people that, hey, Biden had an executive order 14067 that authorized the government to pursue

officially a CBDC, even though we've been working on one since 2018. And it authorized the entire federal government, all of the various departments that were relevant to completely crack down on cryptocurrency. And that's what happened. So Roger, I believe, was brought up uh was part of that and uh and so was so were so were many others. And in fact, I noticed that in particular there seemed to be a lot of focus on people that are at the intersection of liberty and libertarianism and crypto. And I was like, why are they being targeted specifically? And the reason is that, you know, these are people that weren't breaking the law, but these are people that are

promoting freedom and promoting the use of cryptocurrencies as something other than what are issued by central banks or by government. And so, while uh it's very exciting that Roger is is this case is now resolved and before him Ross, it's important to know that the war on crypto started under Biden is still going on. And it started even before Roger with with Ian Freeman. Ian Freeman who actually introduced Roger to Bitcoin in 2010 uh through Free Talk live radio has been an advocate for liberty. He has been promoting the use of cryptocurrencies as a way to stop violence and spread freedom around the

world and certainly with a focus on New Hampshire as well where he's located as part of the Free State Project. And so he on boarded a bunch of merchants. He had ATMs. He um offered services to help people convert fiat to to Bitcoin. He had got an opinion letter from a lawyer stating that he didn't need a money transmitter license to do this. And he was very clearly targeted by the federal government. They tried to ent trap him. They tried everything that they could to manufacture a case against him. And they were very successful doing this. sitting in on the sentencing hearing. It was disgusting to watch the way to which they omitted evidence and tried to blame

him and have him take responsibility for the actions of people that used his services. It was just absolutely horrendous to watch. And so he is in federal prison for eight years. And it's for actually conspiracy to commit money. It's the largest claim. The judge actually threw out the moneyaundering charge itself saying there wasn't enough evidence for that. So, it's conspiracy to commit money. So, if you go to daylightfreedom.org, you will see there's this Biden lawfare tab. And so, we're going to keep up and we're going to keep raising awareness on all of these crypto prisons of war, provide information about their case, and more importantly, links to action

you can take. So, just like almost a 100,000 people have signed the free roger now.org position petition, there is a free Ianow.org petition as well. And so, I encourage you to sign that at freenow.org. It does help. It really does. It matters. It helped with Ross. I believe that it was helpful with Roger and and we need to be there to help Ian as well. We also need to be there to support Roman storm. And by the way, there are others. I mean, there there are a lot of cases. I mean, I'm not, you know, in the my primary thing day-to-day is is technocracy and building solutions. So, you know, please don't send me, you know, just random case. I get a lot of

emails all the time on on various things. I I'm specifically focusing on raising awareness on specific cases that I believe are tied to people who were trying to spread and promote freedom and that are really in the crosshairs of this broader technocratic agenda. So Roman Storm fixed that bill as well. He developed tornado cache which uh allows you to mix transactions and and keep your transactions private and with a focus actually on Ethereum because if you think about Ethereum Ethereum in a way if you think about Ethereum as being a world's computer then people are running a bunch of apps on this world computer but because it's a transparent blockchain everybody can

see what apps everybody's running and so his theory was well look that that seems like a bad idea people could come to great harm because of this of other people. It's not about governments in particular, but we certainly see bad actors outside of the government, although the government certainly is the worst of the actors. And so he got a a opinion, I don't know if it's fully opinion letter, but the advice that he got from lawyers was that what he was doing was legal. He he didn't need a money transmitter license. He didn't have any issues. and he ended up raising venture capital from some very sophisticated investors who also consulted an attorney and that attorney said that what Roman

was doing was legal. So this is a situation this is the same as I mentioned with Ian and and Roger and others where it's it's they actually took the extra step of making sure what they were doing was legal before any action was taken against it. So Roman was targeted because you know again remember we're in this Biden regime. Biden wants to roll out CBDC's. If you're going to roll out CBDC's, you need to get rid of the competition. People are not going to like CBDC's. And so, you have to stop all of the people that are effective at promoting things that go against your unconstitutional immoral position of rolling out these big CDCs. And so, Roman was in the crosshairs of this. In his case,

he wasn't located in New York, but his case ended up being in the Southern District of New York, which is the worst district in the United States in terms of the possibility of getting a fair case. And and Roman is not independently wealthy. He actually moved to the United States, became a citizen, is from Russia, but was, you know, working odd jobs, and then started this company. So, he's not sitting there with, you know, a huge amount of money to fund legal fees. And so he's already $5 million in. He's lost uh he lost um he didn't lose on all, you know, the the most troublesome aspects of his case like facilitation of terrorism or whatever. He lost on a again a conspiracy claim. And so now

he's at a sentencing phase of his case. And so he's going to fight this on appeal, but he needs he actually needs financial support. So, in Roman's case, I encourage you to go to free romanstorm.com and if you can, please donate to his legal fund. He's had a lot of people that have stepped up, but he's going to need even more support as he goes through this. So, I'm going to continue to support these uh these folks and and do everything that I can to help raise awareness. you know, I'm not going to be very helpful in terms of working inside the administration, but to the extent that there's a an component of this that involves raising public awareness, uh, daylight freedom is going to be

there and we're going to continue to do this. So, uh, freeow.org free romanstorm.com. So, what is this? So, back to where we are here. Um, I'm not going to go through this just quite yet, but we will get there. Um, what I will say is I encourage you to see this to visit the Aarend Dayshow.com. uh this is a better the best way to view

this podcast moving forward. I've integrated live chat so you can see there's an additional live chat there in addition to you know what you have on on YouTube and everything else but I'm building a lot of custom features into this. So, for instance, this giveaway of Freedom Dollar is only for registered users of the site. And so, we did pick 20 and uh and sent out those emails and I've already funded I think four or five of them. So, uh but there are other features on this website that are useful to know and that aren't available through any of the other channels. And so we have all of the episodes on this website and and you can see that they're all tagged so you can sort all of the

episodes by tag. But on top of that, you know, there's an ongoing discussion that happens. So you can comment on all of the episodes. I've added a music and memes tab. So the songs that I play at the beginning, a lot of people requested uh being able to listen to those songs. you know, there's a way here for you to listen to the audio and you can see the entire playlist and then to the extent I've made videos or if it's not a video, just a picture with the lyrics and a audio visualizer that's there as well. And so you can vote up or down on these things. You can even comment on the songs. That'll actually be helpful for me to to continue to make more. I was going to make a new song

tonight, but you know, I actually I started doing AI music specifically for to raise awareness around Rogers case. So that's how I actually even started playing around with this. So the very first song I played, they want to give them 109, that was like you can even tell when you listen to it, that was one of the earlier versions of of the AI that I use for this called. Uh, but I I enjoy making these these songs and usually what happens is I create the content for the episode in advance and then I create the the the song and lyrics off of the content. Uh, so the the songs themselves kind of tell a bit of a story in a in a condensed way. So anyway, you can comment on those songs

and provide feedback as well. I'm also generating memes. Not all the episodes have memes. This has been something that I've only been doing somewhat recently. Uh, but I think that this is important as well. Sometimes this podcast goes on for three, four, five hours. Um, a lot of it's the Q&A at the end. It's not me necessarily delivering that much content, but uh, there are some powerful ideas here, and I know a lot of people aren't going to listen to all of it. So, in addition to making clips of the episode itself, uh, we also have memes and and the music. And I think some of these memes are pretty powerful. And again, you can provide your feedback on the memes as well and comment and

provide, you know, your feedback. Also, you I've worked through this as well. I mean, I've done probably, I don't know, 150, 200 interviews on other podcasts. I don't have them all up. I'm not going to put them all up, but I have kind of, you know, a hundred or so of the best podcasts that cover a variety of different topics. So, you can you can view those. Also on the site there is the first principles project. This is something that I've announced that uh we're working on which is you know look my argument is the US I I've been saying for a while America 1.0 is over and some people think that you can save it. I I think I could probably prove and we will my wife and I try to

walk through what how the political process actually works and what would be required. Usually when something gets to the level of collapse or where it's so inverted from its original intent, usually these things collapse. There's no historical precedent. I've researched this. I've talked to other people that study this type of thing. You don't see turnarounds. Like this isn't like a turnaround for a a company. You this type of governmental structure doesn't usually get reformed. And so that leaves the question of okay well is what this country was founded on did it fail because of the the first principles that it was founded on or did it fail because of the implementation

kind of like Bitcoin. Did Bitcoin you know I would argue fail but did it fail because of the original design of the white paper or because what happened after when it was implemented in code or because of what happened at the layer beyond that but the point is I don't think we understand governments. I don't think we have good answers. I think that you know the US was certainly an upgrade from what what we had prior to that because we had a lot of monarchies and other dictatorial regimes and now we're kind of moving phasing into that. But then there are a lot of questions that you could think about even if you are one of these people that believes that well you know this was the best system

ever devised and somehow you can't come up with anything better. When you start thinking about the implications of AI and some things that we've learned over the last 250 years and you try to test that against the original design there are some flaws. So to me I don't have the answers but it seems like nobody's really talking about what the important core ideas are. So on this principles tab, you can submit first principles that you think you'd like to see discussed. And I'm going to set this up as kind of a online I'm going to call it a discussion or discourse, not a debate because I hate these debate processes where it's just everybody trying to get in their talking points or whatever. The

whole point behind this is to actually have depthful conversation and allow each person to make their own mind up as to what they think about what they just heard. It's not a it's not designed to be a gotcha moment type of thing. It's actually intended to be a fruitful conversation that people may come out with different u takeaways from. So you can submit your principle here. You can nominate speakers. So you know some of the topics that people proposed free will, self-funding, social productivity, equal moral standing are some examples of first principles. Some speakers that have been nominated include um Mark Pacio, Thomas Greco Jr., Courtney Turner. So, this is just in the

early stages, but at some point, you know, I'm going to host one of these and I may do these once a month. And I think that this is useful because as the US and as institutions around the world collapse, I think it would be helpful if people even if you're creating a network state, if you at least understand from first principles what it is that you're trying to do and maybe don't repeat some of the same mistakes and this can apply to your personal life as well. I mean, how do you govern your own life? for your own core principles. So I and I so I think this can be useful in many different ways can also be useful and I think probably maybe one of the biggest use cases is

when we have this conversation about AI and what to do about AI because again as much as I think about it and we've talked about this a lot um some people just aren't aware of what AI the implications of AI they want to shield themselves from it or they'll say well you know it's a bubble or you know or they worry about that it's going take away their job. I I will tell you and I'm sure I'll end up doing more episodes. I'm going to have Mike Adams on again next week. AI is going to and already has, but will profoundly reshape the economy and many other areas. And it's not a bubble. It may be a bubble in the sense that so many people are investing in uh compute power. And I

think that probably what's going to happen is AI will figure out how to make AIs that run in a way that's more energy efficient. So I I don't think that this whole arms race of spending trillions of dollars and everything that might be a bubble, but the impact of AI is is unprecedented. And I've experienced this. I use a whole bunch of AI even for putting together the sites and the show and music and everything else. And I've been really building into this. I just bought this new Nvidia supercomput. I'll have it tomorrow and I'll show you some of the things that I can do with it. But but you do realize as you start using it and understanding it that it is going to

profoundly change the productivity landscape and you know some people call it a post- labor economy. I I don't know what the answer is or how this is going to work, but I do know that the productivity gains from AI are significantly better and will be than any other technology that we've seen in our lifetimes for sure. And so what do you do with that? How does that actually work? A lot of people p you know proposed UBI. This is a very popular thing. You see everybody from Peter Diamandis to Elon Musk to others talking about this. So here's the problem. The problem is with something like UBI which by the way and the idea behind UBI goes back to Thomas Payne or even before that

Thomas Moore who wrote the book Utopia and then others that you might be surprised about like Milton Freriedman have also promoted the idea like of having a negative income tax. The problem is that when you understand the ideology of some of these technocrats they don't value free will. They don't even value a humanity centric approach. So UBI if centralized by technocrats does not value I mean you might come at this from the standpoint a lot of people just assume the constitution or assume inalienable rights are built into these systems. They are not built into these systems. The technocrats that are predominantly pushing this don't believe in that. So I don't like I said I don't

have the answers but I do truly firmly believe in free will and uh you know and and the primacy of our own consciousness and I will tell you that is not the default position of the people that are having the policy conversations about how AI is going to move forward. So, I hope that this principles thing turns out to be, you know, I I certainly don't think it's going to be a big hit, but I think for people that are actually genuinely interested or have the humility to say, "Hey, you know what? We don't have the answers. We've just screwed this up. I mean, I use the example bit, you know, it took 250 years for the US to get to this state. Bitcoin is collapsing on itself in in 16 years.

So, I don't think anybody should, you know, be arrogant enough to think that they figured it out. I think we have to realistically say we don't have all the answers but at least let's examine where we are and then let's take the challenges or opportunities that you know are coming up because of technology and some other things and throw that into the mix and see what happens. So uh more on that there as I said there are online discussions going on on every aspect of the site whether it's on the episodes or the music or whatever it happens to be. I want this to be a place for engagement like, you know, we're building a movement here of people that want to be

sovereign and that want to take control of their own life. I want this site to be one of the ways that you can go about doing that. So, you can also see again kind of a snapshot here on the community tab of everything that's going on. This is also a place where you can request booking me for either being on another podcast or for doing speaking events or whatever whatever it happens to be. and many I'm getting a lot of people who want to be on the show uh as guests. And what I want to say about that is I do have guests. I mean I you know I'm going to start figuring out how to segment this better moving forward. But um the focus of this show and the reason that I'm doing this is

in this broader context of technocracy versus freedom. And so there are these three areas only that I want to focus on. One, waking people up to the threat of technocracy. Most people don't know what technocracy is. And it's frightening when you do understand it's almost a hundredyear movement that has an ideology behind it that is, I would argue, anti-free will. And when you do understand that, then it'll change the nature of how you prioritize what you're working on. The next part is autonomy reboot which is the simple idea is this that we do have free will. People might not recognize that and we have the ability to exercise it but our free will is constantly being taxed by

institutions by government schools by government itself by media by entertainment and increasingly by technology and algorithms. We have the ability to recognize that and exit those systems and take back responsibility for our own life. And that is the root of how we're going to defeat this technocracy and move things forward in a way that you know is based on abundance and flourishing and free will. And it is possible. But it's completely an individual job. All of this is an individual job. There are no white knights. There is not a single person that's going to save us. each of us individually have to save ourselves. But it starts by recognizing what other

people are trying to do to hijack that free will and to understand what's behind that. And then beyond that, the third area is actually then building these decentralized solutions. And this is what tonight's episode is about. And I'm going to try to balance it out. You know, maybe the Monday episode will be about technocracy and the Thursday episode will be about uh about what the solutions are for that. So, I've put together um a couple of these indices, technocracy level, monarchy level. I'm not going to go through that here, but I I put these together to just measure and look at the news each week in the context of once you understand what the technocrats are trying to do. And the

endgame of technocracy is a single dig a single global economy with an energy credit currency where it's run by technocrats or now actually AI. It doesn't even need to be run by scientists and engineers. it needs to be run by AI. And so, you know, I put together this tiering system. And part of what is going on in the US to facilitate this is the consolidation of power in the executive branch. And literally Curtis Arvin and others have called for we need a monarch or a CEO or a dictator in charge because that's better than democracy, which again, we're not supposed to even have a democracy. But you know, I'm going to measure how we're doing in terms of this because what I believe

I've documented and others Courtney Turner and and Patrick Wood have have documented is the fact that um we are moving towards this monarchy and the monarchy is an interim step to technocracy. The mistake people are making is they think that oh well you know we want to put you know give a lot of power to Trump or maybe in the future to JD Vance to dismantle the deep state to dismantle the administrative state but the core assumption built into that is that once that has happened the constitution is going to be restored that is not what's happening the idea here is to empower the executive branch to facilitate technocracy and I've done several episodes on this but it's as

clear as day and you can see it with Doge. Doge was not about cutting costs. Doge was about putting AI into a decision-making position, which is why the outcome of Doge was not any savings, but connecting Palunteer to federal government systems and then that information feeding into your real ID. That is not reducing the role of government. It may reduce the number of people involved in government, but it will actually increase the role of government. And it is a move towards technocracy. So, I'm going to start framing this in a way and I'll outline the system so that people can understand what's actually going on because people tend to just look at what's going on on a

day-to-day basis and think that oh, we're not really moving into this type of situation and when you actually see the results objectively laid out, you'll come to a different conclusion. Related to that, we have a technocracy roundt which is going to be next week. It's actually next Wednesday at 6 PM and the focus of that conversation is going to be on AI in healthcare which and again I'm not anti- AI just like I'm not anti-digital currency I'm for privacy coins but I'm not for CBDC's unfortunately when you see how AI is already being used in healthcare it's not in a way that is empowering us as individuals it's already being marshaled against us and so that particular round

table will be highlighting a lot of that. All right, on to the main focus for tonight, which is around uh two things. One, the freedom dollar giveaway. And so last week what we discussed was, you know, I said I would give away if we got a hundred people to sign up for the website, I would uh I would pick 20 at random and then give them $11 worth of Freedom dollar, which is enough that you could then load a debit card, a Zbec debit card, and use that debit card to buy trans to buy anything anywhere in the world. Basically a 100 million merchants. And I'll I'll actually play a clip where you can see

from uh Bri Teresi, you can actually see her using a Mastercard that was funded with a with um with Freedom Dollar. >> Yes. I'm here in Santana Road today and I'm going to be doing a little bit of shopping with Freedom Dollar. Freedom Dollar is the first ever private stable coin. Did you know that over two and a half billion dollars worth of Tether has been frozen? If money can be frozen, that means it's not your money. Let's get this shopping spree started using Freedom Dollar. Let's go. >> Okay, I just found my favorite lip gloss. It is 35 Freedom Dollar. Let's go check out. >> Thank you.

>> Thank you. Okay, I just found this backpack and I think it is so cute on sale for $74. So, I just loaded up my Zbeck gift card with Freedom Dollar and I'm going to go ahead and buy this now. I'm going to be using my Zbeck card loaded up with Freedom Dollar to buy this backpack. [Music] Approved. >> Thank you. >> Thank you so much. Have a good day. Bye. I bought all of this with Freedom Dollar. As you could see, the process was super smooth. All I had to do was load up a Zback gift card and I bought everything today with Freedom Dollar. >> So, that's a very powerful solution.

Now, again, the the whole point of this is not, you know, Mastercard, right? The the whole point of this ultimately is to get to direct peer-to-peer commerce, but this is a great intermediate step because it gets people using a wallet and it gets you using your wallet to fund the card. And so it's then the easy next transition is more and more merchants start taking Zeno and Freedom Dollar directly. Uh you can even cut out having to use the Mastercard. But right now you I mean I live on crypto. I've been living on crypto since 2019 and I am 100% at this point almost 100% in the Zeno ecosystem. So I use the Zbec Mastercard and I use all things related to Zeno uh for all of my transactions

now. And this Zbec Mastercard is a gamecher. I because I've used various crypto debit cards over the years. They often take a long time to load. You may have to wait two or three hours for for the funds to get onto the card. Sometimes you run into issues where the card isn't accepted. It's a big issue and you know my my uh my kids have given me a lot of grief over it because it's like we've been shopping. It's like all right well let me buy this gift card and you have to wait 10 minutes for the gift card. It's just kind of whatever. This eliminates all of that. In fact, you know, my my son already has a one of these cards himself. So they're actually using it and know how how easy it is and

how powerful it is. So I encourage you to check that out. And what I'm gonna do is, sorry I'm jumping around a little bit tonight because, you know, I just wanted to show these things live. So like I said, this isn't a it's time to start showing and doing. Um, and again, part of this is the education piece, but then also I've built a number of these tools that are either community tools or resources to help people get on board the start using these systems and to start building on these systems. We are absolutely at that stage. We are at the stage of adoption. We are not at the stage of building the technology or waiting for the technology to be ready. We are at the building phase. We're at

the using phase. This is this is real. You can build parallel systems for everything now. Food, healthcare, anything that you want. You can buy and sell things, create marketplaces. You now have a private stable coin. So you don't have to be stuck with these CBDC's or backdoor CBDC stable coins. You can make your Bitcoin private. you can make your Ethereum private and spendable and then merchants can now accept these alternative currencies. This is here now. So there's so when people say to me, well, what can I do or or you know or in the past as I've been talking about this for 18 months, you know, early on this was I would if you listen to some of my earlier podcasts, I

would talk about things that will happen in the future. Well, those things have happened and you can use them now. So if you go to freedomforge.io, IO. We're going to spend a little time on this site tonight uh on a couple of areas. And I'm putting the link into the chat, freedomforge.io. Uh what we're going to talk about tonight is a couple things, but we'll start with the start with Freedom Dollar. So, this relates to the to the giveaway that we just did. So, this is pretty straightforward. You can go through here and it gives you step-by-step guides. By the way, I'm going to be doing online courses and I will be doing in-person workshops as well. But my goal is to empower and

onboard as many people as possible. So, I'm going to always make, you know, some this information freely available and we'll continue to try to work to make it easier to understand. So, give me feedback on this. Sometimes it's tough. I've been using computers for 45 years. I mean, I'm kind of in sometimes, you know, you can be so embedded in a situation that uh you think something is easy or natural and and you realize that for for people that maybe haven't used any of these systems before, it's not completely intuitive. So, the whole purpose is to make these tools useful. So, I I don't view criticism badly. I view criticism as or feedback as important so that we can onboard more

people. And in a lot of ways, I've done a lot of these in-person workshops. Getting that feedback to the developers of these sites and the developers of these wallets is also helpful because they're also interested in making their tools useful for use. So, when you click on this start with freedom dollar, this gives you a real easy step-by-step process. You pick which wallet you want to use. And in this case, what I have pro promoted for the uh freedom dollar giveaway is to use the Zeno official Zeno mobile wallet or the desktop wallet. And the reason for that is you need to connect your wallet directly to uh the Zbeck website in order to fund the card. You can't do that with these

other wallets yet. So, this is why I'm recommending that. But you will see there's there are videos to watch tutorials. So you can pick a wallet and you can actually watch a an online video at your own speed and go through and get your wallet configured. Then once you have your wallet configured, you go to the next step. And the next step here is to configure Freedom Dollar. So you have to add Freedom Dollar. Freedom Dollar is an asset. It's an asset created on the Zeno blockchain. So Zeno allows you to create tokens, privacy tokens that represent other assets. And those other assets could be a stock, it could be a stable coin, you can even tokenize Bitcoin itself. You

could tokenize literally anything. NFTts, it there's no restriction on what you can tokenize. But in order for you to be able to view those tokens in your wallet, you have to actually specify. You have to do what's called whitelisting the asset. And the reason for this is that people are creating thousands of tokens all over the place and your wallet would be unusable if you went on there and you just saw, you know, 5,000 different >> tokens. That's not very useful. Plus, you know, you want to keep out spam or scammers or people that might, you know, this happens a lot with Ethereum where, you know, people will will because you don't have unique token names, people

will scam people, whatever. So, you want to make sure you have the right asset ID. So you whitelist that in your wallet and then boom then now you're able to receive freedom dollar and the thing is you have one wallet address for Zeno. So if I send you um freedom dollar to your I just need your Zeno address. I don't need a separate address for freedom dollar or a separate address for a free Roger token or whatever it happens to be. Literally your your one Zeno address is where I can send any tokens created on Zano and Zano itself. So this is a very powerful feature. So once you get that configured in your wallet with with that address then then you can get the

Zbec virtual card and there's a whole tutorial for that as well. A great video that the folks at Zenolist put together and I encourage you to follow them as well. Zenolist.com and Xenolist on YouTube. They have a very good YouTube channel that has a whole bunch of videos that are like three to five minutes in length that are really concise, straightforward, well explained guides to help you to help you to get on board. And then so then once you do that, then you're then you're on board and then you can be like Bri where you're traveling around the world and you're shopping with the this it's a virtual card, but you can tie it to Google Wallet or Apple Wallet and use it with tap tap to pay.

And so so that's that's that. Um this isn't the new thing that I'm announcing uh for this episode. This was really from last week, but I did just announce the winners and I sent out a tweet about that as well. So, by the way, this is another reason to sign up for the aarend dayshow.com because I will be doing other giveaways as the ecosystem evolves, as more projects are added. you know, the arandshow.com and the other sites that I'm creating are going to be the the way that we well, one way that these these new tools are introduced to the world. So, that's that's where we are on

the giveaway from last week. Today, what I'm going to talk about, which is very exciting, is the fact that now you as a merchant can receive Freedom Dollar and Zeno for your goods and services. Now, I created a plugin on this a while ago called the Woo Commerce payment gateway. It was a little rough. It worked, but it wasn't as automated as it should be. Um, there's a new plugin that's been created and I encourage you and we'll walk through this today and I'll even show you the video called Anycoin Payment Gateway. And so I'm using this myself. I'll show you the store that I've created using the Anycoin payment gateway. So this allows you to accept Freedom Dollar

and uh and Zeno. And I've been told that they will soon be offering the ability to take BTCX and EXEX. Well, what is BTCX and EXEX? These are the privatized versions of Bitcoin and Ethereum created using confidential layer. So, this is one of the amazing developments in the Zeno ecosystem is now you can take your Bitcoin and Ethereum and tokenize it, make it private and spendable using Zeno. And so what you will be able to do is now you as a merchant using Woo Commerce will be able to have your storefront and you will be able to accept Zeno, Freedom Dollar and BTCX and ETHX which this gives you access to you

know two and a half trillion dollars worth of purchasing power. This makes Bitcoin and Ethereum spendable in a way that's private and allows you as a merchant open to be open to this entire new source of customers and source of liquidity. It's a huge deal. So 40% of websites on the in the entire world use WordPress. So WordPress powers 850 million sites. Woo Commerce is a free open-source tool that allows you to create e-commerce shops within WordPress. So, I think last time I checked there was something like 8 million uh stores created using Woo Commerce.

And so, what Anycoin is is a plug-in for Woo Commerce that allows you to add Zeno and Freedom Dollar as a payment method. So, I will show you. We'll go back to the Freedom Forge website. And now we're going to go to a different tab. We're going to go to the sell with Zeno tab. And now we can go down here and you can see it says recommended any coin payment gateway. So you you select that as you're going through the guide and then it says so the first step that it takes you to which we're not going to go through today but I've linked to what I found to be one of the best tutorials out there. I didn't create it but on uh on how to set up Woo Commerce. It's like

a half an hour video. We're not going to go through that now but there are plenty of online resources for setting up WordPress setting up the WooCommerce uh e-commerce environment. Then once it's installed, once Woo Commerce is installed, then you can configure any coin. And I will play that video because you can see how simple it is. So if you already have Woo Commerce, you can see that just in a couple of minutes, you'll be able to accept Zeno and Freedom Dollar F and Zamo. Start that. >> Hello everyone and welcome back to another Zano list video. In this video,

I will show you how you can accept FUST and ZAML on your WordPress WooCommerce store. So, as you can see, I have a an example WordPress store here. It's completely blank. So, what I'm going to need to do first is go on over to plugins on the left side here. I'm going to click add plugin. And first, I'm going to need to download WooCommerce. I'm going to go ahead and search this in the directory here. Then, I need to download this one here, WooCommerce. I'm going to click install. And then I'm going to click activate again here. Then I can go ahead and go through this setup guide. And for this video, I am going to skip this guide. Okay. As you can see, I now have Wukcommerse installed. Now I

can go ahead and add the payment processor. So I'm going to click add plugin again. And this time I'm going to type pennycoin. I'm going to click search. And here it is here. So I'm going to click install. As you can see, it's now installed. And then I can click activate. Then, as you can see here, you can now see any coin out of here. I'm going to go ahead and click that. And here you'll be able to see your any coin transactions. So, every single Zano and FUSD transaction will be recorded here. So, to set up the plug-in, go into settings, go into payments, and as you can see here, I have any coin payment here, which is currently inactive. So, I'm going to go ahead and

enable it. Now I need to tick manage and here I can tweak the settings. So any coin already comes with a pay and IB verification API which is completely free to use but if you want to use your own you can go ahead and do so but otherwise you can leave it by default. So, I'm going to go ahead and enter my wallet address. And then I enter my private view key. And the private view key allows any coin to view a transaction that has happened into your wallet. And I'll link another video in the description of how you can find your private view key. Then you can add a price buffer. So, for example, if someone sends $100 and there's a difference of 1%, so $1, then it's going

to approve the transaction. Require confirmations. How many times do you want the confirmation to go through? Then I can go ahead and click save changes. And once I'm done with testing, I can obviously uncheck this and click save. And this will then enable the plugin. That's how simple it is and easy to install and set up any coin plugin. So you can accept FUSD and Zano on your website. Thank you guys for watching and I hope you have a great day. So there you have it. Um, so it's pretty simple to set up and I actually just did this yesterday

and set up a store for the Aaron Day Show. So I will share that now. So if you go to the Aarend Dayshow.com, this is not a fancy store. You know, I've only got two products in it for now. I certainly plan on doing more, but I wanted to get this up and see how easy it was to to get configured and and make it work. And so, so you can see here's our our Aarend Day Show store. And you know, we have two products today. We have a free Roger hoodie and and that white glossy mug. And so these this I created with um with the plugin. And so now you can go through the process. You can add to cart. You can pick the size that you

want, quantity, just standard, you know, whatever process. Of course, of course, you need to do this live. There's there's an issue. Um, all right. Here we go. So, we've got the size guide. All right. Well, I'll I'll come back to this. It does work, but I it I'm not sure what's happening right now. I think I was probably doing some last minute development and probably broke something at the end. But I I did do a successful transaction. So, it'll pop up and you

can scan the QR code and use either FUSD or Zo. Now, I will say the other thing that's interesting about this is I mean I picked this product because so for the last 500 something days every day I've I've been wearing usually one of four shirts for a while. You know, I had a free Ross shirt in the in the mix, but then I had uh I had this shirt. This was my original um free Roger shirt which is from the enemies of the state event that Dan O'Neal and others put together at the Libertarian Convention where that's where Trump came out and announced that he would he would pardon Ross. So that that this has been one of the shirts and this one's faded. Um and

then I I wore this shirt in fact actually helped make this shirt which is interesting story behind this. This was one of the first, well, Roger didn't do many interviews the the entire time he did the Tucker Carlson one, but one of the first big ones that he did was actually on the Charlie Kirk show. And Charlie Kirk was a huge advocate for Roger, by the way. So, I mean, who knows, you know, maybe someday I don't even know all the details what happened at the end. People ask me, you know, how did this get done? But, you know, he had some great people advocating on his behalf and Charlie was one of those. So, so I actually created this shirt by taking the, you know, Roger from his

Charlie Kirk interview where he was actually sitting there next to Tracy Thurman with this censored piece of tape over his mouth while wearing a free Ross day one shirt. So, that was actually from Rogers Charlie Kirk thing. So, then I put that on a shirt and then put Free Roger Day One on it. And so I've been wearing this, you know, probably one out of every two or every three days for, you know, this entire time since the Charlie Kirk interview. And and so what I decided to do was basically replicate that and make a version of it available now as a hoodie and then on a on a coffee cup. So, those are the those are the first uh the first

two products that uh that that we've created. Now, I'm going to put my book on here, the new version of the final countdown, which is a digital download, but I didn't have I ran out of time to get that on here for uh the launch today, but you can also get the same thing on a on a coffee cup. So, um, in any event, you know, despite the fact that for whatever reason I must have messed something up, the the store does actually work and, uh, I'll I will debug that later. But you can put this together yourself. So, for people that say, "Oh, how am I going to make money in these alternative systems?" A lot of people say, "Well, how do I get Zeno? How do I get Freedom Dollar?" And on

the, of course, I've got answers for that also. So on the Freedom Forge site, there is a place it's called Start Here. Let me let me pull that up. So there's the start here tab and this actually walks you through if you're brand new to Zeno, you can walk through and you can pick which wallet you want. So let's say you want the Bitcoin.com wallet. By the way, I just saw today it was announced that Bitcoin.com is doing a $1 million Freedom Dollar giveaway. So, I don't know the details on that yet, but that's that's pretty exciting. So, you walk through, you get a wallet, and then how do I get Zeno and Freedom Dollar? Well, you can buy it directly. So, you can use

if you're in the US, you can use Alchemy Pay. The only downside of this is it's KYC or you can use an exchange like Mexi. And if you're in Europe or other places outside of the US, you can use DFX and you can actually buy Zeno and Freedom Dollar with I believe your bank account and Google wallet and Apple wallet directly. So this is how if you want to buy it directly. Uh an alternative way and a way that I actually prefer is to swap another cryptocurrency for Zeno or Freedom Dollar. And I actually prefer the one I use the most. It's just maybe out of habit is Exelix. So you can actually go through this guide and you can click on you know start swap through Axelix and the way

these swapping services work is you send one crypto so let's say Bitcoin you send your Bitcoin to one address and then this service sends you to your Zeno wallet the Zeno or Freedom dollar and they're kind of a swapping service in the middle. What I like about Exelix and I believe Trokador as well is their non their non KYC. So this is a great way to get on boarded uh if you already have cryptocurrency. And then another solution for this might be because depending on how much you want to buy or what the situation is using the credit card and debit card through Alchemy Pay or whatever will only get you so far for so much. Um, you know, buy a it's the only time I would advise using a stable

coin, but buy a stable coin from an exchange if you already have an account, pull it off of the exchange, and then swap that transparent stable coin for for Zeno or Freedom Dollar using one of these swapping services. So, those are those are some ways to get Zeno. But now that you know about Woo Commerce and the Woo Commerce plugin, one way to start accumulating Zeno and Freedom Dollar is to start selling your goods and services for Freedom Dollar and Zeno directly. So that that is what this empowers you to do. So think about how exciting this is now. So now that we can make Bitcoin and Ethereum private through confidential layer and on that front uh maybe next

week, it depends on if if this gets done in time, but EdgeWallet has announced and has integrated uh the ability for you to swap your Bitcoin for private versions of Bitcoin and I believe Ethereum as well, right, within the Edge wallet. So you don't have to do any steps. It's just like how you would exchange any cryptocurrency. you say, "I have this much Bitcoin and I want to swap it for BTCX and it happens automatically in the wallet with the click of a single mouse button." So, that's really powerful. So, um, right now there's a $500 minimum, but they're lowering that threshold. When they lower that threshold, I'm going to do a podcast about that because this is what

this means. What this means is now you as a merchant can quickly set up a WooCommerce store if you already have a WooCommerce store, add the plugin and then you'll be able to take Zeno Freedom Dollar and then you'll have access to the $2.5 trillion dollars worth of Ethereum and Bitcoin out there that could be made private and spendable. So this is real adoption now at this point. So this is we're at the point right now where if you look at what is possible this is now an ecosystem the Zeno ecosystem can scale. This is something that has the ability to be meaningful for people in something that can be a realistic alternative and parallel system to the current system

that we have and then you know the even worse more dystopian complete technocracy that awaits us. And so stay tuned on that. if it's, you know, not next week, it may be the week after where I'll walk through the edge wallet and how to make your Bitcoin, Ethereum, BNB, and other other cryptocurrencies private and then spendable. And then, you know, you couple that with now what you've learned about Woo Commerce and now we've really got something. Now we're opening trillions of dollars of assets are are going to be made available in a private and spendable fashion. So, I'm super excited about that. and me see if there's so that's so th that's really it I mean for for in terms of the

walkthroughs today I just wanted to go through the update on these sites show you how the uh how this new plugin works how the new any coin plugin works and then you know let everybody know that we we are sending out the freedom dollar uh as part of the giveaway and that you can use that freedom dollar to Get your Zbec Mastercard today. And by the way, you didn't have to participate in the giveaway to start using the Zbec Mastercard. You can do that yourself right now. You can get a buy some Freedom Dollar or Zeno and set up a an account with Zbec. It takes like five minutes and in a real short period of time, you can have crypto that you can

offboard to a non-KYC debit card and spend anywhere in the world. So these are all really big tools, really exciting developments and more to come as well. And the thing about um this Freedom Forge website, so it's here to be guides and everything else, but the my real passion of course as you know is is to warn people about technocracy threats, but then to build a community and to start brainstorming and creating projects to counter these threats. So let me give you an example of what a threat is and what a counter might be. So the biggest threat of all is the threat of I would argue CBDC's and regulated stable coins, right? Because this gives

the government and other third parties the ability to censor your financial transactions and to program your money. What is the counter to that on Zo? The counter to that is Freedom Dollar, which we've discussed a privacy stable coin that's not backed by US treasuries. or what are some other uh threats and how might we counter those threats? Well, public health is theory is a threat and we've already experienced this with COVID. We've experienced this with vaccines, mass mass mandates and actually the entirety of how the health care system works and how big pharma works. Well, what is a counter to that? You could build, and I'm working on this right now with my wife, a global P2P

healthcare marketplace, medical tourism with a reputation management system where people are engaging in transactions privately, but you're still building a reputation management system on top of that. Completely outside of the government, completely outside of insurance and global. Likewise, okay, what's a threat? Centralized food. We could be forced to only eat GMO products or insect protein. What's a counter to that? Build a global P2P food marketplace, private food marketplace, connect farmers all over the world with customers and with a reputation management system that's outside of central control. You could even take something like, and this is should be something that's on your

radar, you don't own your 401k. You don't own your ETF. You've already given away the voting rights to Black Rockck and Vanguard. You've done that contractually. And the next stage to that is when there is a financial collapse, it's called the great taking. If your broker goes under, your investment instruments are actually going to go to the creditor of your broker, which with a special emphasis on the four largest banks. So, you don't own your stocks. You don't own your retirement portfolios. You could create an entire new stock market. And again, when I say this, this isn't going to apply to mo a lot of people are like, "Oh, you know, I it makes me it actually

pisses me off. I see people like, oh, you know, are people going to use XRP with banks?" Well, one, they're not, but but two, why would you even want that, right? There are a lot of people that are like, people get excited about Black Rockck. I've been telling people this for a long time. I've been involved in tokenization since 2018, and I got involved with Ravencoin. And, you know, early on people thought, and Patrick Burn thought, well, you know, hey, Ravencoin's great. It's a fork of of Bitcoin. Now, we're going to be able to have transparency in the equity markets where there's all this fraud and all these third parties involved. Well, it turns out that the people that

are making trillions of dollars because of a lack of transparency where they control the ledger don't want public transparency. So, what was announced just today? It was announced today that Black Rockck is going to build their own tokenization system. So, no, they're not going to use XRP. They're not going to use Ethereum and also they're not going to use Zeno because they want control. So Walmart isn't going to tokenize their business on Zeno, but small businesses, entrepreneurs, this is about empowering new businesses and new ways of doing things. And so you at least this is my conception of it. If you if you're out there saying, "Oh yeah, you know, uh I

can't wait for the Bank of International Settlements to adopt Zeno. That's not going to happen." And I would argue you shouldn't you shouldn't want that to happen. But if you want to create a parallel future that's private where you own your assets and can trade those assets without other people being able to see what you're doing, that's what we can build on Zeno. So you can submit your own technocratic threat and you can submit your own solution. And the idea behind this is that we will incubate some of these ideas. We'll connect people. I mean over time I may invest in some of these things. I may just advise I I may give away a whole bunch of ideas. My you know some of these things

have to be built. So, it's not even that I want to build them. I just want to see them in the world. Like the plugin I started, you know, I'm not the greatest dev in the world, although my skills are greatly enhanced now because of AI. But, you know, I built this rinky little Zeno uh plugin and then because it's it was necessary and then some people that are, you know, better at programming than I am came in and actually built out this whole Anycoin thing. And I'm grateful to them and I'm grateful that that exists because this is about building these alternatives and we need and we can have competitive alternatives and whatever but there's there is an infinite number

of things that can be built on Zeno and a whole variety of different ways that we can smash these technocratic threats. And so I want this site to serve, you know, ultimately as a community for that and a place where you can start to see what's being built in the entire ecosystem. So you can see how many projects that have been launched, um what stage they're at. You you can also through this site, sign up for workshops, and there's going to be more on this. I'm going to be building a lot of these these features out, you know, for November one, there's kind of one layer of things that we're going to be rolling out. And then beyond that at the first of the year I'll be you

know coming out with a kind of a bigger plan for you know kind of under the guise of the revolution will be tokenized but how we can really organize the movement and accelerate our plans because the platform is built the technology exists. Zeno is I I am grateful to Zeno and and the entire ecosystem because if you are somebody that if you're sick of hearing all of the doom or you know and this happens to me a lot. I go to conferences and people are like oh you you're the only one that's actually talked about solutions because mostly when you go to these things at this point it's here's what's wrong and oh how bad it is which it after a certain point if you can't

counter it it becomes demoralizing. It almost gets you into this place where you're become defeist. You're like, well, I guess we can't do anything about it. We absolutely can do something about it. And now because of of how the technology is maturing and the ecosystem is growing now people can start to look at this and say, "Oh, I could run a business. I could create a business doing this. I can take my existing business where I'm selling things and now I can start using this as an alternative payment system. What about this idea?" So, um, I'm working on a book which is going to accompany what's going on at the launch of next year where I kind of lay out and explain very

clearly what tokenization is all about and why it's going to happen regardless. The only question right now, so when Black Rockck comes out today and says, "We're building a system to tokenize equities." They're going to build it. So, your equities are going to be tokenized. You don't really have a decision anymore about whether or not it's going to be tokenized. Your decision is are you going to have and utilize this technology which can be a liberating and powerful technology? Are you going to use this in a way that gives you more freedom or are you going to get stuck in a digital prison? And the book is going to lay out what's going on. And you will see as I make the

case with what's happened with the Genius Act, with what's happened with the Clarity Act, with what's going on with Howard Lutnick and now the plan to create a sovereign wealth fund. and they want to tokenize the natural the the assets of the United States of America and sell these things off. Once you see what's going on, you will realize when I say the war is freedom versus technocracy and the battleground is tokenization, you'll get it. Then the back half of the book is all right, what are we going to do about it? And I'm going to introduce these websites and I'm going to introduce the ecosystem and the projects, but more importantly, I'm designing this to try to inspire people

to come up with their own ideas. And I want to see workshops in the future where it's entrepreneurs and developers and other people working together to brainstorm. Maybe we do a hackathon. Uh who who knows? I mean, I'm open to exploring a lot of different ways. But this is about building a movement. This is about getting people working together. That's the stage that we're at. That's where I'm going to be spending my time is educating people, but hopefully providing tools to get people to to build and to start taking action themselves because again, there are no white knights, but every single one of you has the ability to take back your free will and to start building

outside of this, every individual. And uh so I'm very excited that we have the tools to be able to do that. So, with that said, I am gonna open this up to Q&A. I'm sending a link around and I apologize. I I was kind of last minute. I had an interview podcast before this, which I usually don't schedule, but it was with Mike Adam. So, I haven't even had time to send around links to some of the normal people that join the Q&A. So, I'm going to do that now. Happy to, you know, if you want to submit your comments. And by the way, I am being heavily shadowbanned. So, we're at 1500 people right now and I will tell you Sal the Aggrist others um retweeted this and and by the way,

you know, with everything that happened with Roger, I put out a tweet, you know, with his statement and that got almost 200,000 views. So, this information this I'm being suppressed heavily now on X and I'm not surprised because I talk about Musk and technocracy, so on and so forth. So, I do need your help to share this um with with as many people as you can and to start going to the Aaron Day Show website when you are watching this. So, you know, it's probably only a matter of time before, you know, I I feel like 2020 with the censorship all over again. Some people think that the censorship was stopped. It has stopped if you're talking about COVID that happened five years ago. It

stopped if you're talking about things that involve people that are no longer in power. If you're talking about things that involve the people that are actually in power now, and by people in power, I mean the technocrats that are actually pulling the strings behind the scenes, you have no more free speech. You have the illusion of free speech because the algorithms are are suppressing different content under the guise of freedom of reach. But the thing is, you have no idea what that algorithm is. You don't get to know that algorithm. It just happens. So you have an illusion of free speech. Um so if you want to join the Q&A, I'm just sending

and actually let me see here. This one was fairly short. Some people may not even be expecting the Q&A. Um, all right. You know what? I'm gonna uh I'm going to take a a brief break. So, I'm going to play a song real quick and uh and then I'm going to come back and we'll continue the Q&A. So, so don't leave. I'll be I'll be right back. >> We don't break. We don't give what they can take. We don't bow.

We don't break. We don't give what they can take. God just stood with fire in his hand. We went built a haven on free land. Roman wrote the code they fear the most. Now they're ghost and lover she [Music] dress it up as long [Music] but it chains across the border. [Music] Can't hide the truth in paper lies.

>> Freedom's got a billion eyes. We don't bow. We don't break. We don't give what they can take. Write our names in fire and gold. We won't do what we are told. We don't bow. We don't break. Hey yo, we 14067. A law that kills the hope we're given. But paper crowns will wash away

when the people rise one day. Roger and Roman's name. [Music] We'll sing aloud. We'll light that flame. [Applause] Every cage they try to build. Ooh. We'll break when voices won't be still. Roger. We will stand for you. >> We will fight it through. >> Roll it. >> Your code will run. >> Freedom has just begun. >> We don't bow. >> We don't bow. We don't pray. >> We don't break. We don't give what they

can take. We don't bow. We don't pray. We don't give what they can take. Write our names in fire and go. We won't do what we are told. We don't bow. We don't break. We don't give what they can take. All right, there we go. That's probably one of my favorites. Um, it's definitely my favorite of the Free the Political

Prisoner songs. Uh I am still sending out these links to people. So if you want to join the live Q&A uh the link is in the chat and um so while that's going on as far as we don't have more people again I would have thought this one would have been very well you know some of these some of these live streams have gotten to 25,000 30,000 people. So, this this shows you, you know, this is this is an issue that that I've talked about every podcast that I've had since I had Roger on. So, Roger was on he was season 1, episode three.

So, we are now on season 2, episode 37. So, we've had like I don't know 40 podcasts and this has been a topic of of conversation. So, so I'm sure there are people that want to want to come on and and talk. Now, of course, I haven't sent around these links, so no one actually knows about this. So, I'm gonna continue to do that. Now, if you have any questions, you can put them in the chat as well. Uh, and I will I will get to those also. I will check the arando.com site as well as what's going on and monitor what's coming in through YouTube and Rumble and other sources.

So all right. So let's see comments that we have for a happy Roger is free. He's the reason I got into Bitcoin. So that's uh I know that's that's the case with me as well. Um I learned I learned about Bitcoin in 2012 from from Roger at a Free State event. So that was a long time ago. Actually

the clip I I played at the beginning was from was from that from that event. It was a pretty incredible event. Liberty Forum. It was there with Charlie Shrem. I believe Eric Vorhees was there as well. It was just it was crazy energy going on um at that at that time. All right, let me see here. Now my usually I have people that I I DM to participate in this and because of the announcement of what happened with Roger, I now have to actually try to find those. So, um, so it might take me a while to even get these these links out. So, if you want to put some things into the, uh,

put your comments in the chat, I'll I'll deal with those while we're while we're waiting to get get some people on the live chat. Let's see. All right. Okay. So, see what else we have here.

See if see if Craig is available. All right. I'd also love to get feedback on the the Freedom Forge site in particular is I've been putting together the guides. Um,

you know, I'm not sure how how easy to use they are. uh thinking about, you know, maybe even putting together like a a system where people get NFTts or whatever for completing the various guides. Not sure how overly complicated I want to make that, but you know, I think making it actionoriented is is critical. Um, you know, again, not just passively consuming content, but actually taking steps. You know, I've been doing these workshops and talks for a couple of years now. And when we've gone around the country, you know, even though the book that I wrote has a an entire the entire back half of the book is

how to get into self-custody, crypto, gold, and silver with step-by-step guides that are completely out of date until the the new version that I just put together, which has a lot of emphasis on Zeno and the entire ecosystem. But a lot of people approached me and said, "Look, you know, yeah, you gave me the steps and yeah, it was clear and everything, but they were just they were afraid to take that first step." That is a really big barrier, believe it or not. I mean, to just get a crypto wallet. You have to appreciate the fact that less than I think a half a percent of Americans, the last survey I saw on this actually bought something directly with crypto in the last quarter. And that

part of it has been going downhill. And it's been going downhill in part because of this narrative that Bitcoin is a store of value, which as I said at the beginning is is now solidified by Bitcoin, the Bitcoin Twitter handle, which now states that Bitcoin is trackable digital gold. So, I mean, if you're listening to this and you're already in the crypto community, you know, this may seem foreign to you, but the 99% of people that have never used crypto to make a transaction, most of them have never even heard of the fact that you can use crypto as a currency. They're they've only been presented with Michael Sailor talking about store of

value. They've only seen what's on Fox News. They've only seen what's on CNBC or what they heard from Fidelity or Black Rockck or their financial adviser. And by the way, most financial advisors are absolutely clueless on this to the to the extent that they're involved in it at all. And there are some exceptions. Somebody's going to be like, "Oh, well, you know, my advisor, but your adviser is in the substantial majority regarding this. They usually don't know anything about it." And usually what they know is it's a store of value. And then usually what they're promoting to people are solutions where there are custody there's there's third party custody involved and this is partially how they

make fees and everything else. So most of the entire world doesn't know even though it says cryptocurrency, right? I mean the the giveaway is in the word itself, but somehow it's been shortened to crypto and then Bitcoin has kind of and the hijacking of Bitcoin have put it into this realm of oh it's just another investment and maybe it's maybe now it's digital gold because it's scarce but it's trackable digital gold. So that's okay. So so we're so far removed. So, so you have to understand this is the majority of the people on the planet. This is what their perception is of this. So while some of us may have been in crypto for 10, 12, 13 years or even if you've been in it for five years

or six years, you still um you can't imagine the fact that that there are people that have heard about crypto, heard about Bitcoin, but have never even contemplated the use case of as a currency. So this is what we're up against. So actually just getting somebody to download a wallet and to get over that fear because it's been it's been made is something that's either well look at it this way imagine you you aren't familiar with crypto you aren't familiar with these concepts at all and all so all your entire exposure to this has been what you have seen through mainstream media I mean in mainstream media I think could even be

include what I don't even know how widely you want to past mainstream media. This is even if you're talking about Fox News, cable news, or whatever. If if if this is your perception of cryptocurrency, then what do you hear about in the news? Well, you heard a lot about you hear a lot about scams, right? Well, what are the newsworthy stories going to be that hit TV? You're going to hear about FTX. I actually did a an informal poll when I was doing workshops last year. I would ask people how many people have heard of Satoshi Nakamoto and almost no one would raise their hand and then then I would say how many people have heard of Sam Bankmanfree and

I would get not necessarily a lot of people but but relative to Satoshi a lot more. And so that tells you a lot about what we're what we're up against here. So the perception is going to be either it's a scam because it's the scams that get reported. So a lot of people when I would pull them, not only did they not know that crypto could be used as currency, but their perception was that it was a bad investment as well. It's kind of a scammy investment. This is the that's the kind of the base case scenario that we're up against. So just the act of getting somebody to download a wallet and receive a cryptocurrency is a massive leap because then they can understand, oh, this isn't that hard.

This isn't that different. Or, you know, depending on if you're going through one of my workshops, you you will realize that our money is already digital. And um so you know you're not paying your mortgage with cash and you're probably not even paying it with a check. You're not receiving your paycheck even as a check anymore. It's all direct deposit. And you know a lot of people are now using Google Pay, Apple Pay, Zel, Venmo. So then people get, you know, then that kind of the light bulb goes off. Oh wait, I'm already using digital currency. This is just another this is just a different wallet. it's a different, you know, it's of a similar type of thing that I'm already used to.

So then once they get through that, then then it becomes a lot easier and a lot of that fear subsides. But part of the problem has been until really recently with a lot of these developments and even the Anycoin thing and some things that we've discussed tonight is um okay, now you have crypto. what are you going to do with it? And I I can't tell you how many people come to me, oh, hey, will you advise me? I'll pay you, you know, advise me on my crypto portfolio. And I'm like, look, I I don't I don't do that. Um, you know, or people like, well, you know, can I show you what's in my wallet? I bought this stuff because so and so told me to buy it. I don't know what any of it is.

Should I keep it? That's not that's not what I'm doing here. You know, my my whole point is to onboard people to things that they can use as we start to build a parallel economy outside of these centralized systems and how we can combat the looming technocracy that that we all face whether we know we face it or not. So, we do these workshops and I would introduce people to a wallet or two. And part of the other issue has been that there's been a usability problem for a lot of this stuff. And with privacy coins in particular, I mean, we've really only had, you know, Monero's been the dominant player, but in some cases with these privacy coins, it's hard to buy the privacy coins. They've been

banned or the wallets haven't been great or you can only, you know, get one privacy, one particular type of privacy coin works with one wallet or whatever. So, that's been eliminated as well. So now you have multiple options for this. You have Cake Wallet, which I'm grateful to Cakewallet and and Vic who uh has been really leading the way on on privacy, created the you know the big I think he owns Monero.com and Cakewallet was originally a Monero focused wallet, but now it there are many cryptocurrencies that work with the Cape wallet including Zeno and and Cake was the first wallet outside of the the official mobile and desktop wallet of of Zeno to take Zeno

And so that's great. So that opened up usability because within the cake wallet you can not only use it to hold your crypto and to buy and spend directly. They have a gift certificate system built in. You can buy gift certificates directly with crypto. You can buy debit cards with crypto. There's exchanges built in. So now we have tools that are usable. And then we have after that we had bitcoin.com added it and bitcoin.com there have been 50 million downloads of the bitcoin.com wallet. It's one of the oldest wallets, one of the most downloaded wallets in the entire world. And they have added now Zeno and Freedom Dollar and I

believe also be adding um the confidential layer assets BTCX and ETH apps. So that's incredibly exciting news as well. So, and then we have Edge Wallet. And EdgeWallet is is also a great wallet, very user friendly. A lot of great features, particularly for for newbies, and some security features that are great as well. So, I I like the entire ecosystem, and they're actually the first one to add this ability to swap for swap your Bitcoin directly for private Bitcoin directly within the wallet. So, so we're at a point now where, you know,

I'd stopped doing the workshops for a while because wanted to focus on the building of the solutions and making sure that we had enough stuff so that you know what I didn't want to do is do a workshop where it's like, okay, yeah, you on board people and you give them, you know, $5 worth of crypto, $5 worth of Zeno, $5 worth of Monero, whatever it happens to be. and then they forget about it because they didn't know what to do with it. I mean, I've had that happen and but then I've ran run into the people a year later when I, you know, did like a follow-up. They're like, "Oh, yeah, I forgot about that." And they look and price went up and now, you know, now

they're engaged again. And I actually the the most interesting thing for me was uh in the last two years I've spoken at Chris Martins's event, Peak Prosperity, and I did a a full workshop the first year and then did kind of an abbreviated thing this year. And man, it was it was great to be able to show. So everybody in the a lot of the people in the audience saw the workshop the previous year and so they were able to see what had changed. So, I went from, okay, here's a cake wallet. Here's the Zeno desktop wallet and here's some crypto to now here's all the things that you can do. You can get a privacy stable coin. You can connect this to a master card and spend it

anywhere. You can make your Bitcoin private. You can build all these other things. You can use all of these other different wallets. So, this is essentially what has happened in a year. I mean, it's really been just the last six months. So, this is accelerating. So I I think if you look at, you know, Freedom Forge website and uh the Arendatio website, you'll be able to to start to see and understand all the different pieces that are coming together in the ecosystem. And I'm going to put some more tools. I'm trying to figure out how to do it, but you know, to get to solicit more feedback on, you know, what areas you're the most interested in. I already have on freedom uh the freedom forge site

there's an ability for you to specify what you're interested in as far as workshops go and I think the next workshop we might do is in going to be in or around Lexington Kentucky there's a huge group there that's very interested in uh sovereignty and building parallel systems and so uh I think we're going to have already you know minimum of 50 to 75 people there and that's before we offer this up to to anyone else. So I think that's going to be a good workshop and they had indicated what they're what they're interested in covering. And so you know again the question is it's how to make this have have staying power. So to to on board people but then on board them in a way

where um where you come out of the workshop and you're empowered and then there's a next step right so you walk out it's like okay I did this and now I'm going to be able to do this um now I can buy this now I can think about adding this to my own business now I can think about creating an entire new parallel system to the things that already exist and I think once we get to that level, I think you're going to start to see things snowball, you know, particularly as people see that they can actually start to live entirely outside of the system. This is why I always talk about how we need um, you know, privacy solutions for food and for health care. Um,

because when you think about how they're rolling out this technocracy, they're doing it, you know, one piece at a time. They're adding a little bit of surveillance over here, a little bit of surveillance over here, they're becoming more invasive in other areas, and then it gets to the point where well, as people comply with it, one small piece at a time, this one small thing doesn't seem like a big deal. Oh, you know, get a real ID. It's the same process. You go to the DMV, just provide these a couple additional pieces of information. Provide your social security card, provide your, you know, lease agreement or whatever. It's not that big of a deal. it's not that much of an

inconvenience. But a lot of people signed up for that because that's what they were told. That's what they were pitched and they didn't realize they're connecting all of their data to the entire, you know, government data through a palunteer integration with every department of the federal government that then is going to be used every time you try to travel anywhere and then at some point will be used to determine whether you can work or not. People aren't thinking about it that way, but they they know this. This is why they rolled these things out in incremental steps and they use emergencies as a way to do it. This is always a simple way to do it. And what you find

when you research it and when you document it is that something added during an emergency doesn't go away just because the emergency goes away. In fact, I've I've found almost I have I haven't found any examples of financial surveillance being peeled back. Not a single example. So, um you know I that that's this doesn't just apply to financial surveillance. It applies to all things. But um so this is something to keep in mind. So they keep on adding these things. So when you think about something as being innocuous, this is why I'm doing these technocracy index and monarchy index so

that you can take a step back and look at okay what all have they added and then what triggers something going from going from a category three to a category two and then when you see what all those things are it's like oh yeah that those things accumulated all of a sudden you know we started out with uh you know a questionnaire when I set up a bank account and then then all of a sudden now there's a biometric component to it where I have to provide a thumb print or a retina scan and then then all of a sudden I had to add this and then the Patriot Act adds this and then this adds this and then you look at the accumulation of it and so none of the individual things at the time seemed

like a big deal but you add up and look at all of it it's like I'm digitally enslaved now and I signed up for it myself because they did it one small piece at a time and I wasn't paying attention and in part people don't understand how these things work and most these things are unconstitutional, but as I've argued for a long time, the Constitution's been dead for quite a long time. Um, so so these are things to to keep in mind and and so this is why we have to build these solutions and get them set up. And one of the common misconceptions is that that you know you're going to build these things

and everybody's going to sign up all at once. I mean this isn't how anything works. It's not how technology works. It's not how ideas work. It's not how the US was founded. You know the US wasn't founded with you know everybody signing up or even everyone participating in the revolution. It was like a half a percent who then got the other one another 1% and then that went to 3%. But movements or ideas or transformations never start with the mass market. A lot of people will say, well, you know, they think about, well, my aunt would never sign up for this. Well, your aunt never would have signed up for any of the things that she's using. She wouldn't be using direct

deposit. She wouldn't be using a debit account. She wouldn't be using any of these other things. There are people that are later in the adoption curve when things go mainstream or you have, you know, late you have, you know, laggers. you actually, you know, mainstream is something that happens well into the process. You usually start out with hardcore innovators that are just really interested in being on the cutting edge and they see something as a new way of of doing things. And then that stimulates early adopters. And then the hardest part is is what's called crossing the chasm from the early adopter phase to kind of the early majority phase. this is the this

is kind of the hardest part. But then once you get into that, you know, early majority, then things just kind of take off and people just start copying. Oh, I saw somebody so and so, I saw my friend did this. Now I'm going to do this and then and then things start to spiral. So I I think we are now at the early adopter phase. I think for the last year or so, 18 months, we've been at the innovator phase. We've been at the all right, we know we need to build this. Um, but you know, is the market there? Well, the market isn't there. People don't understand. I mean, they need to see it. So, now we've got to actually do some hardcore work with the technology

and iron out some kinks and start trying to make these tools usable. Now, we have tools that are usable and people are starting to use them. And then a lot of this is going to be about working out the kinks and it's going to be making it easier to use these tools, making these tools more scalable. That's part of the process. You know, if you were going to create a medical marketplace or a food marketplace, yeah, you're going to get early. So, you're going to create something that's innovative and then you're going to be trying to get the innovators in that segment to start using it. And then you have to work out the kinks. This is just a natural progression

for technology adoption. The the problem that we have is that you could argue that crypto it crypto is an innovation and it was a massive innovation, right? The idea was no central banks, no governments could be in needed to be involved in the issuance of money. It would have a fixed supply so on and so forth. And what happened was hijacked and then split into 20,000 pieces. So instead of you know arguably everything that Ethereum does and all these other use cases could have been built on Bitcoin was designed to be built on Bitcoin. You could have used smart contracts with Bitcoin. You could have had scalable lowcost transactions

on Bitcoin but then it got divided into 20,000 different pieces and so then it pushed everything backwards. It slowed the overall adoption. This is a good strategy that the incumbent players understand. Banks understand this. Governments understand this. So what do they do? They come in and they wedge they they cause intentional conflict. This is what happens all the time with politics. This is why the elections are manufactured conflict. Right versus or excuse me, red versus blue, right versus left. The US versus China. These are all manufactured conflicts to keep us occupied while technocracy moves forward one step at a time. And there's no friction because

everybody's involved in all of these other conflicts. So crypto got set back. And I've said this many times. When I first used crypto in 2012, it was better, faster, cheaper money than the existing system. Why? Well, Venmo didn't exist. PayPal pay existed, but Venmo didn't exist. Zel didn't exist. Google Pay, Apple Pay, none of these things existed. So actually sending and receiving Bitcoin in 2012 was definitively a better product and then that changed. So the market got split into these fragmented pieces and then there wasn't really coherent development because everybody's going back to the drawing board to compete on

building different protocols. So you got to have the protocol first and then you build the apps on type of the protocols. And so now you have people going back a step. Well, the existing financial system didn't go back a step. They tried to innovate on top of the stuff that they already had. And so then they created something where I mean, let's face it, Zell and Venmo and everything else, if you don't understand the privacy implications or the security implications of using these things, you might think, hey, this is a good idea. It's easier to use than the thing that I used before. And frankly, it it becomes easier to use. What are you going to do? Set up a lightning node. You know,

people who think that that Bitcoin is usable, go do a workshop in front of a hundred boomers that have never used crypto before and then watch how easy it is to set up a lightning bolt. You're out of your mind. And because you haven't assessed what the actual market is, you're not competing against other cryptocurrencies. You're competing against everything that exists as a payment mechanism. including the existing fiat system and including other cryptos and other things that might be innovative. And you layer on top of that regulatory challenges and the fact that it's hard to get people to, you know, change from where they are and most people wouldn't even because

they don't understand how money works wouldn't even consider it to begin with. This is how we end up where we are right now. We're kind of stuck. But in a way people are using digital currencies. You have 27 trillion dollars worth of stable coin transactions last year. So no one can say there are a lot of people that say well you know it took a long Rome wasn't built in the day. Bitcoin's only been around for 16 years. It takes a long time before a currency gets adopted. Well no. Stable coins have been adopted. People use stable coins all over the world. They're not using Bitcoin for day-to-day transactions. That is not a function of people being resistant to

using the technology. They're even willing to use crypto. That is all about usability. And that is a failure, a market failure. That's a failure to build things that are easy to use. It's a failure of building things that are competitive in terms of fees. So this is what has happened with crypto. And so now we're on the defense in 20 2009 2012 even 2015 we had the advantage because we had this new technology that was better actually better faster cheaper but also decentralized that had those things that are important for freedom human freedom and now we're on the opposite side of

that. Now the people that we were trying to displace and create a freer system have come in. They have caused internal division amongst the people with the innovation and then they've taken something that was supposed to make people free and they've created a surveillance version of it and now they're trying to use the force of the state and their incumbent position to facilitate adoption. and it's working. So when I see, you know, look this headline today that I saw, um, Black Rockck is set to unveil Genius Act aligned money market fund designed for stable coin issuers.

So let's talk about how many levels removed we are from peer-to-peer digital commerce. how many levels we are away from actually halting central banks. We've completely lost the plot. We now have Black Rockck creating a financial instrument to create a money market fund, a a fund, a centralized fund that will manage cash and treasuries and other things that people buy through a broker. And that financial instrument is going to be used to back a digital token which is a trackable, programmable and centralized form of fiat. We we have added more

intermediaries here than we used to have. So peer-to-peer means I have something in my custody and I trade it with you directly and no one else is involved. Now we have like three levels involved in the just the money market fund and then on top of the money market fund now we have somebody issuing a token on top of that then somebody managing the custody of those tokens. I mean by the time this is done you're going to have like eight intermediaries in eight intermediaries in a process where the thing can all be centrally controlled and it's all based on fiat where the core thing backing the digital token is fiat. That's how how highly hijacked. It's not

this is even about hijacking Bitcoin. This is about hijacking the concept of cryptocurrency. It's more than just about one coin being hijacked. It's about the whole idea of cryptocurrency itself has been hijacked. So, what's problematic about this is the post that I just read about this Black Rockck announcement went viral. you know, it's got 1500 likes or whatever. Let's let me look at the stats. So, so this post, it's it's got Larry Frink with laser eyes. That's This is the post. 134,300 views, 1,500 likes.

That's what we've got. Larry Frink with laser eyes. In fact, I might even pull this thing up. By the way, if you want to join the chat, the link is in the uh in the notes. I'm going to I'm going to talk for a while just because I I think it's it's so early that people usually this thing doesn't start the chat doesn't even start till 8:30. So, I think I think I threw people for a bit of a curveball. So, there's enough to talk about here anyway. Um so, let me let me pull this up so that you can see what I'm talking about. So, we have Let's try that again.

All right, here it is. There you have it. There's Larry Frink with laser eyes. So, so what you find now again, and I talked about this several episodes ago, when you actually consider the traffic, 70% of the traffic on here, these are bots. So, and you can even tell a lot of these are AI. I mean, do I think that this person wrote traditional finance is finally catching on that stable coins are becoming the backbone of global liquidity. But true innovation isn't about wrapping old control and new tech. This is bullshit. somebody actually has has a bot that uses AI that scans the content or whatever and they're using this to build followers and build engagement. And it's by the way

important that you know that uh at least 70% of the of the engagement that you see on these things are are are AI and their bots. So this is I don't even know how much who knows how many of these likes are even real, but it's social proof. People see that this got 1500 likes, but there are people there. I know people in crypto, oh this is more more proof of mainstream adoption. Mainstream adoption of what? Mainstream adoption of money market funds that back surveillance tokens. Why would you want that? That mainstream adoption. That's not mainstream crypto adoption. That's mainstream anti- crypto adoption. So, it's mindboggling to me that this is going on, but where is the resistance to

this? And you know, for me, having been involved in this for since 2012, I mean, early on, if you went to a crypto conference, the whole theme of the crypto conference was about government and central banks and yeah, we're going to beat these guys because remember this started after the 2008 financial collapse. So, people were were pissed about the banks. They were pissed about uh mortgages. And I'm trying to find different tweet here. I don't even know why that switched to that. But um people were upset about that. And so a crypto conference was going to be about how we can use this to spread more freedom. The new people that have been introduced

to crypto and particularly anyone after say 2017, they've not even heard of these concepts. So you go to a crypto conference. Now, I actually said this to somebody that hasn't been to a crypto conference in a while. Don't go. I I I don't even think crypto conferences are a good place to go to talk about Zeno because they're largely at this point it's become professionalized people that are hired to pump back. So, that you the people that are sponsoring the tables, a lot of them are new to crypto and they're they're just there. You know, I went to one conference and all the people in the audience were there just people that were paid there to operate other tables

and they were all sitting there, you know, on their cell phones. Like nobody was engaged. There's there was no passion for the movement. There's no passion for the conference. I talked to I was on Ernie Hancock's show last week and he talked about the fact he went to the Bitcoin conference and he said he couldn't believe it. He said, "Not only was no one talking about freedom, they were there with he was there with James B and some other people and they were handing out these flyers that were promoting, you know, free Roger, free Ian, uh I think free Roman storm or whatever and and they got stopped and threatened to be get thrown out of the conference for promoting such things. people were

looking down on them at a bit at the Bitcoin conference for promoting the freedom of the people who had they not been there at the beginning to promote these things that entire conference wouldn't even be happening. That's how far it's gotten. Then you have other people that will admit I mean I've seen people that were OGs that were in it 2011 2012 2013 made a bunch of money and they they've even posted am I we the bad guys now? They realize that, okay, they have so much in fiat gains, but they are starting to at least be conscious conscious of the fact that, wait, wait a minute, I'm sitting here and I'm actively promoting um I'm actively promoting Michael Sailor's company getting put

into the S&P 100 or whatever, so it'll pump my bags. I mean, listen to a Bitcoin Maxi podcast these days. Freedom doesn't come into it. best case you're going to get is, you know, their own personal freedom. But I don't think that they've thought through the implications of all of this. And I do want to say something else. I'm having issues with sharing out the the right account here on this browser, but I saw yesterday that Elon Musk posted that one of the great things about Bitcoin is that it's backed by something. It's backed by energy. So that somehow that means that it has intrinsic value. This is a complete kind of lack of understanding of of of value. There's no

such thing as intrinsic value. Something's worth it because people think that it's worth it because just because it costs a lot to produce doesn't mean it's worth something you can create. You can design or create anything that's really expensive to build. That doesn't mean people would or should pay for it just because it cost you a lot to make. But then Jack Dorsey amplified and retweeted what Musk said. Now, here's what's important about this. The cornerstone of technocracy is energy credits. The whole point of going back to the 1930s, you can read, they have textbooks about this. They have manuals and everything else. The whole point was to transform the economy. Not. So it's a pricebased

system based on supply and demand, but you have energy credits which are fixed in supply and and this is the total circulation of currency. And then this is where you bring in the scientists and engineers to determine the allocation of these energy credits. And then based on your social credit score, whether you're complying with what the scientists and engineers say is the best thing for all of humanity, that determines the portion of energy credits you're getting. Elon Musk is a technocrat. His grandfather was the head of the technocrat party. He has stated tweeted on three separate occasions that Mars should be a technocracy. He has pro he has promoted UBI. He has promoted energy

credits. And then yesterday he promoted that concept which was amplified by Jack Dorsey. And I see a whole bunch of people cheering this on. This is faulty not only economic theory but it is it it's not intended to be faulty economic theory. It is it is political theory. It's technocracy and people are cheering it on. I have shown the clip from the Doconomy Mastercard which is Mastercard people are voluntarily shining signing up for that tracks your carbon and then shuts off when you use too much carbon. That is what Elon Musk supports. And by supporting Bitcoin in the way that he supported Bitcoin, he's actually actively promoting it. You know, so in a weird

way, so Bitcoin is turning into the ultimate rug pull. I'm going to tell you what I think is going to happen unless others unless we're successful or others are successful at promoting alternatives. I can see a day where Bitcoin is what is used to back a token created that's not even created on top of Bitcoin. So imagine a situation. So you've got Larry Frink here with his money market fund. Well, imagine now Larry Frink runs well already runs a Bitcoin ETF and now the Bitcoin ETF is what's used to back a stable coin. So you have a surveillance token that represents fiat, but then the fiat is

backed by trackable surveillance digital gold. I this is a I can actually see this kind of scenario playing out again completely and totally lost the plot of all of this. But how are you going to even communicate this to people? This is the struggle that I've had um for, you know, three years now, writing books, running for president, trying to do everything to to educate people. And when you get down to it, and by the way, the people that are coming to my workshops are not these are people that are ahead of the curve. These are likely your early adopters. And then you realize, okay, well, when would people have learned about money? Where would people have learned about

money? Well, what do they teach about money in school? Well, they don't teach anything about money in school. If you're talking about elementary school, junior high school, high school, I mean, there's you're not going to learn anything about the Federal Reserve or how the Federal Reserve actually functions. And when you go to college, then you learn a lot of economic theory that's based on a whole bunch of concepts of well, if you you have perfect information, perfect markets, a whole bunch of things that are actually not even true, which is why economists end up c wreaking a lot of havoc and causing a lot of destruction. But the point is at no point along the way

through your formal education will you be exposed to how money works, how the Federal Reserve works and even what the ideology or the theory is behind the money itself or the history of this kind of money. It's not part of any curriculum. I mean, somebody's going to somebody might point out, well, yeah, no, if at Hillsdale College or something, you you may you might be able to if you look for it, find it, but the overwhelming majority of people never heard of these have a con even even a slight conceptual understanding of how money works. So, this is what we're up against because then it sounds so absurd when you take a step back and explain how money works. It's like, okay, so the government

issues an IOU to this company, this private organiza, excuse me, this private organization who we don't know who owns it, and then they print money out of thin air in a database, electronic money out of thin air in a database, and then they charge interest, and then they get to set the interest rates. And then the money and then the people that then use this money have to pay back the interest and they have to pay taxes on what they earn with this money printed out of thin air. And if they don't, a collection agency called the IRS, which is paid for by the taxpayers, will

come after them and throw them in jail and then collect interest and penalties and then give the interest to the Federal Reserve. This is an This is an insane system. Absolutely insane. And and now you have a credit score that's based on your ability to comply with financial institutions that are printing money out of thin air and setting interest rates. And then people go around having an opinion about themselves as to I'm a good person because I'm complying with a Ponzi scheme where the third parties involved manipulate the interest rates and control the supply of money backed by debt that

the consumer has to pay. So again, how do you get that information out? And because it's so absurd and you know the only thing that might be more absurd with how money works is how health care works. Health care is an even larger racket. And I will do a series of podcasts on this. Uh the own nothing project that that I started where you can put in a link or paste in these click wrap agreements and it gives you a score and it tells you how many of your rights have been taken away. I'm going to focus the launch on this on the healthcare sector itself. But the healthc care sector is one where for a lot of it you don't even sign. You don't even have a click wrap agreement.

You're just subject to legal terms and you don't even sign. So one of the things I've been I've built a scraper that that scrapes because all the information is publicly available all of the package inserts for prescription drugs because that information is public and you are subject to the terms of the package insert but you never sign anything. So that's one aspect of healthcare. But when you go through and the hardest part of working on this part of the website is I want to be able to show. So the whole point of it is to show this stuff visually because people don't have a lot of time and it's really complex and it's intentionally complex. If you make an

agreement 300 pages long where people you don't have enough time in your life to read these things and then it and then they put in overly complicated language that only they and lawyers can understand. This is all by design. So the point is to simplify all that to just show all right well here's a chart. Here's a visual. Here's how many of these rights you've given up. This is how much of your data you've given up. But then more than that I want to be able to show visually how these things are interconnected. how the pharmacy is interconnected to the pharmacy benefit manager and how that relates to the government and how that relates to big pharma. So that I because I want people

to have an aha moment which is wow I've never thought about this before and I'm not blaming people for not having thought about this before. It's things are so bad but they're so poorly constructed that no one would conceive that the world would exist like this that people would let it get like this. you know, you're probably going to assume, hey, my doctor knows something about health. You're not going to be, you know, it's a far cry from that to like, you know, a hundred years ago Rockefeller decided to completely transform medicine so we can sell more oil and services through this entire medical complex and then he's going to fund all the medical schools and then

he's going to fund all of these other things and the whole thing that we have, the whole system that we have is a lie and not built on optimizing people's health. That's a hard pill, you know, pun intended, for people to swallow. And not surprisingly so, because because who would imagine that people would let this get this bad? But there's a point about this, which is that I found people don't speak up. So, this is why, you know, when we fight for these political prisoners, it's really important to speak up. When Roger was first arrested, I I panicked. And you know, I hope Dan O'Neal, Dan, if you're listening, I hope you join this Q&A. Uh I I'm shocked that nobody's

joining because it's usually usually we have four or five people on here. And on top of that, this is a pretty this is a pretty important topic and an exciting topic because of everything that's going on with Roger. But um I see Stephen's there as well. So, so when Dan called me with this idea to do this uh enemies of the state party, uh at the time I was one of the only people talking about Rogers games. And why? I mean, it's like I'm not close personal friends with Roger. I've only seen Roger in person one time. It was like 13 years ago, almost 14 years ago now. But I was focused on the CBDC issue and I knew what had happened to Ian and I knew what was happening to other people.

And one thing I've learned as an activist is it is completely possible that everybody will sit around and do nothing because they think other people are doing something. This happens all of the time. People just assume somebody else is going to do I know people won't do things. the mo one of the most valuable things that you can do is just take action. Doesn't matter. You don't have to be, you know, I mean, think about the people that have had some of the biggest impact. Like I think Lynn Olrich is a is a hero. I think I first saw her in 2014, 2013, something like that at a at a at Porkfest,

right? I mean, she'll say it herself. She's an unlikely hero in all this. But what did she do? She she stood up for her son and just wouldn't wouldn't take no for an answer. Wouldn't stop. That's the driving force. We all have that driving force, but we don't think we do. And then and then a lot of times people will stand around and and do nothing. Oh, somebody's asking for the link for the Q&A. Um I'm putting the the link in. I apologize. This might be on my end. It usually when I the reason I'm playing the music at the beginning is so that I can send the link around because the way that X works is you can't really well you actually can now schedule the link

in advance. The problem is that it doesn't get as much reach. I don't know why it works like this. Some of these things are stupid. So, so I can't actually send around the link to the Xcream until the podcast actually starts. So, I play like 15 minutes with the music and what I'm doing behind the scenes is I'm posting a link in groups. I'm posting links in Signal. I'm posting links in Telegram and DMing my friends, you know, people that I know that would be interested in and hopefully they're resharing it as well. That's that's pretty much the the hack that I've come up with for this. Well, today I turns out I didn't have the right links or whatever. So, I I was I got like halfway

through the songs and I hadn't even contacted anyone yet. And usually what I do as well is that I send a link to the StreamYard for the interactive chat when the podcast starts knowing that the the the chat isn't going to start until after the main discussion has taken place. And today I didn't have time to send out any of those links. So I do apologize for that. This is this is part of why probably not as many people are on and then certainly why the Q&A because nobody nobody had the link. But we're rectifying that now. I hope someone pops on. I'm going to continue to rant though anyway just because it's uh or not rant but you know these are important things and and to me this is

uh I you know I've spent so much uh attention on on these these prisoners of war it's almost not even real to me that the Roger situation has happened because it's it's you know it seemed like it was just going on and on and on forever and um so like I said now I've got to I need to get new uh I need to get new shirts shirts, you know, all I have are these Free Roger, Free Raws shirts, and so, you know, I've got to got to pick some new some new clothes, but but related to this, and I am so excited and grateful that Roger is out, and you know, people are complaining about the deal and and and whatever, and and I, you know, I look at it this way. It's it's um I don't think we were expecting

a lot from the government, but the fact that the fact that he's free is absolutely uh you know, phenomenal. And so outside of you know, whether people thought the terms could be better or not. U doesn't really matter. I I mean it's you know, it's certainly better than the alternative. And but it does highlight something that I've experienced as an activist for god 20 years now or whatever. And if you're a liberty activist, most of your wins are when your either yourself or your friends or colleagues don't go to jail for speaking the truth. But the thing that they were talking about,

we didn't get the big the big victory was the truth that they were trying to expose to begin with. I mean, I've got a long list of of these kinds of wins where it's like, yeah, you know, I big thing in New Hampshire was um we had people that spoke up during COVID and there was this one woman, Theres, who was facing jail time because they ended up people were protesting everything that was going on, the masks and everything to the point where they were moving the executive counselor meeting at to the state police headquarters so that that they control the crowd, right? So, man, again, these are public hearings and and by the way, the protests weren't they weren't in any way

violent. It was just people people lawfully exercising their first amendment rights. Well, she's at this now executive council meeting and at the end of some part of the executive council meeting, she says amen to something. she gets arrested and she was looking at prison time for this. So, this became a whole big deal in New Hampshire and and I attended the one of the hearings or whatever they I mean they ultimately dismissed the case after a long time. I can't even remember if it was a year, two year like sometimes this stuff blurs together. And so, it's like this big celebration of yeah, we won. We won. Somebody didn't go to jail for saying amen in a public hearing that had

to be moved to a state police headquarters because our govern our governor didn't like disscent. People were also protesting outside of his home. Other people got arrested for that. Again, none of it unlawful. So, even in this case that we have, I'm I'm grateful with what happened with Roger, but let's just let's not forget we lost time. we lost 18 months of of of his voice. And related to that, again, this is Biden era stuff that triggered all of this. So, but related to that, one of the things I've been saying the whole time Roger's situation has been going on and Ian's situation has been going on is not only should we always

continue to stand up for these people and now for Ian and for Roman, but we can't let them have the chilling effect that they want. Why did they go after Ian? Because they don't want people using Bitcoin for day-to-day transactions. That's why they even started the thing to begin with. This is why they put plants in to try to entrap him. They tried to get him to agree to sell Bitcoin for illegal purposes, for drugs and everything else. They tried to entrap him and get him to do stuff. Um, and he didn't do it. They don't report on that. No one ever says, "Hey, we tried to entrap." You know what they don't say? Well, we tried to entrap this guy, but he didn't fall for that. They just throw

a whole bunch of stuff at you all at once and then they hope some of it sticks and all that has to stick is one thing and then they can throw you in prison. But understand that the whole thing was manufactured to begin with. They saw a guy they wanted to stop and then they said, "What kind of thing can we throw at him to get to trap him into something?" Oh, he's got a letter from a lawyer that says what he's doing is legal. Oh, he's doing this. Oh, we got it. We brought in a guy. We tried to trick him into, you know, selling Bitcoin for drugs. he didn't do that. So, here's what we'll find. We'll find a customer of his that did something illegal without his knowledge. And then

we'll try to hold him accountable for that because the crime that was committed by the customer was a bad crime and it looks bad optically and it'll look bad in front of a jury. So, if we do that, we'll stuff that in front of them and then we can throw them in prison. Why do they want to throw them in prison? Because they don't want people engaging in peer-to-peer commerce outside of central banks. They don't want people using money that they don't control. Was it illegal what he was doing? No. Was it immoral what he was doing? No. It was completely moral. Every aspect of what he was doing is moral and was moral. That's why they go after these people. You know, in the

case of Roger, you know, whatever. I I don't necessarily want to, you know, go into any of that, but but you know, he did write a book hijacking Bitcoin and, you know, all of a sudden now we have a Bitcoin strategic reserve. Now, let's talk about this Bitcoin strategic reserve. Here's another piece of news from this week. Our Bitcoin strategic reserve went from 200,000 to 325,000 Bitcoin. This is another thing. I should probably find a tweet. People celebrating this. Yeah, America. And we're number one. United States government has the largest, you know, Bitcoin strategic reserve of any nation on earth. How do we get the Bitcoin reserve? Theft. civil asset forfeite.

Some of Ian Freeman's Bitcoin are in the Bitcoin Strategic Reserve. Some of Ross Olrich, in fact, the largest chunk of this Bitcoin strategic reserve is Ross Olrich. He's been pardoned. Theory, he should be entitled maybe to get that Bitcoin back. But it goes on and on and on. So now there's this recent thing in Asia and they seized a whole bunch more. And now people are cheering this on. People are cheering on civil asset forfeite as a way for a state to accumulate an asset. How is this freedom? Who is celebrating this? You know, and I, you know, I'd ask anybody in the comments here, I'm sure no one listening, if you want to defend this, come up. I mean, this is a thing I

I'm not expecting if you're listening to this at least this long into this that you're going to you're going to challenge this, but but why are people celebrating these things? So, I said early on in addition to supporting them and doing everything that we can to advocate for their freedom, one of the other things that we can do is not let it have a chilling effect, use the state's attempt of of weaponizing the law for political purposes to turn it into a marketing event for the for the legal activities that they are trying to suppress. So, if they're going after Ian because they don't want people to use cryptocurrencies for day-to-day transactions, then start using crypto

for day-to-day transactions. Start on boarding merchants. If you're a merchant, start accepting cryptocurrency. Make it so that when they violate people's rights and they use the they weaponize the law for politically motivated purposes that it backfires. That's a thing that you can do in addition to everything that you can do through the system to advocate on behalf of those people. So with Ian, if it's they don't want to use cryptocurrency, then let's use cryptocurrency. In the case of Roman Storm, if they don't want privacy, which again, we have a fourth amendment to the Constitution, but they're going after Roman Storm because because he implemented a technology that

a lawyer said was okay for the purpose of protecting people's Fourth Amendment rights, protecting people not only from the government, but from other bad actors. Well, they're going to try to have a chilling effect on Roman. And if people don't step up and and advocate on behalf of Roman, not only within the system, but by using privacy technology, then that's how they win. So yes, let's get Roman out on the merits because the case is absurd. But let's also make sure that we're adopting privacy coins because the people that are these people that are the victims of political lawfare in particular, whatever it is their activities were, those are the kinds of activities that

are probably on the on the morally justified side of things. So, I mean, I'll I'll keep my remarks to Ian and Roman, but but let's use these let's use these technologies. let's enhance this because this is how they get us. It's it's this soft compliance. You know, I would talk to people when I would go I would do workshops and I' I've had people pray for me because every talk that I had done for the last 18 months and even before that because I was talking about Ian before what happened to Roger happened, I had people pray for me and they just assumed that because I was talking about this that I was in jeopardy. And you know what? Maybe I maybe I was maybe I

am. I probably am. I mean, at this point, you know, but at the same time, if you're unwilling to talk about injustices or if you're unwilling to take actions that are lawful, like using privacy coins and using alternative currencies, a lawful activity, if you're unwilling to do that because you're afraid that the government might weaponize the law for politically motivated purposes, then you're already enslaved. And I think that's largely where we are. We're at a point right now where people aren't afraid of breaking the law. They're afraid of not breaking the law, but having the law weaponized against them or having polit

politically motivated actors use the process itself to to you know they I mean they often say that it's with lawfare it's the process uh that is is is the issue and that and that is the case. I see we have Peter here. Hey Peter. >> Hey Aaron. How you doing? Never done this before. >> What's What's going on? I see you're muted. I um >> No, I just uh I I saw it in the signal group. I wanted to listen and and hear what you have to say. Everybody's saying

you're on fire tonight. So, I love listening to you. >> Oh, I appreciate that. It's I mean it's good to get people on. You usually I give more notice on uh on the chat, but you know, look, today's a big milestone. There's a lot of stuff going on. Um and you know, and I but I think it's important that we we do have a win with with Roger, but we've we have these ongoing issues. And I mean at this point I'm just voicing what you know what I've experienced is people are unwilling to speak up even if what even though what they're saying is true and not illegal. There's still fear and we have to get over that fear because we are our rights are being trampled on every minute of

every day and it's accelerating right now. >> Yeah. in a massive way with Palunteer, with stable coins, with, you know, the government collecting databases of, you know, DNA on children. It's just on and on and on and on and people are are not are not speaking out against it. And some people are thinking that, oh, well, it's 3D chess or something. And it's like, it's not it's not 3D chess. There's no 3D chess to government databases of genetic information. That's not a 3D chess move. I hear you. It's a scary world we live in. I'm totally in agreement. I don't know what to do myself. AI is taking over everything.

>> Well, you know, AI is an interesting conversation. I I was just on with Mike Adams today on on Decentralized TV. I'm going to have him on on Thursday next week. And AI could be a great thing. It could be a phenomenal thing that improves our free will and gives us more choices. I it's I will say I mean people that are worried about jobs being wiped out. Yeah. I mean it so but the question is if you had technology that could make the economy a thousand times more efficient then we might be in a situation where people actually don't have to work where where you know your survival most people have attached their identity to their work >> and which is necessary for survival. you

would have a different set of priorities if you didn't have to work just merely for survival. It would open up other opportunities. The problem is that the people that are controlling the AI and in particular the way that government is working with those people is not one that values humanity first and that's where the big I think conversation needs to happen. I may I may actually do a few podcasts. I'll ask I I don't even know if I'm going to be able to show it properly, but I I have been amazed. I've been using computers since I was five. I you know I started my first tech company I was 19. I'm not anti- tech at all but I this technology is evolving faster

than any technology I've ever seen. And just in the last 90 days what has happened. >> Yeah. I'm almost afraid of losing touch of what's real and what's what's not real anymore. I feel like that human connection is is leaving society faster than I could ever imagined. Yeah. No, no, that's true. I mean, there is there is definitely the possibility of of that. And you know, even with what's going on with video, the video stuff is it does make you wonder when you see these new video models. You know, this stuff has been around, right? It's not like we're not getting it right as it's released. So, you wonder how much of an advantage and how long people have been using this. Like, how long

have deep fakes been used? >> Yeah. Yeah, you're absolutely right. Stephen Stephen says, "Over 3,000 listeners on X and less than 20 reposts." Yeah, I I don't know. There's something going on. So, you know, I used to get minimum of 3,000 in some cases 25,000 uh on the high end for the live stream. And then I started talking about Curtis Yarmin and technocracy. And then you can just my traffic just just dropped. It was just an 80% drop. And now, you know, I I think links are not are not getting through. I've got to re re-evaluate the process here. This is why I'm posting this now on my on my website and

trying to push people there because I I do think we're going to have we have the same censorship we had during COVID. It's just not on COVID. It's on these topics, technocracy. I'm going into listening mode. >> Yeah. All right. I hear you. Um so, so yeah. So I don't know. I don't know what gives that you know the comments are are light too. And again this this uh Larry Frink laser eyes money market fund thing for the genius act. These are the kinds of posts that go that go viral. But when you studied the algorithms, I did this probably five or six, I can't remember which episode it was, but we did a real deep dive

on social media and independent media. And when you when you look at this, I mean, they they know and Musk knows. I actually played a clip on this. He understands that he views social media as like one big limbic system and and you can manipulate people's dopamine levels. You can manipulate the chemicals in people's brains through the algorithms. He knows that that's what it's all about. In fact, before he bought X, he he would he was actually fairly negative about social media. I mean, he was often talking about how social media is kind of a a a force for for for bad. And then all of a sudden, he jumps in and buys X and starts claiming that he wants X to be like

WeChat, which is the Chinese everything app that's tied into a social credit system. And then you realize he's not he this is not a pure intention at all. He's he's doing this uh with a very specific motivation, but people still think he just saved free speech and and that hasn't happened. So >> yeah, Cassandra says we have to talk about technocracy. Not one freedom Bitcoiner talks about it. True. This is so this is absolutely true. I and I will tell you something that I I watched yesterday and I'm really I'm starting to

tune into this. So So you ask yourself, so why do certain people get a lot of traffic and get a lot of traction? I saw Dave Smith, a clip of Dave Smith talking to Nick Fuentes and you know and I'm scratching my head and I'm looking at this and like Dave Smith's whole thing is that it's the the neocons that we have to fight like he's not even in the right he's like 20 years out of date with even the thing that he's focused on. I've never heard it, you know, in in this chat he's talking about, well, you know, JD Vance may be a good guy. Like he he has no understanding of what's going on with Peter Teal or JD Vance or technocracy. Libertarians don't talk about it. Bitcoiners don't talk about

it. I've talked about the fact that I was at a dinner with some people that are ve very much pro liberty Bitcoiners or not even Bitcoiners, pro liberty crypto people. And when the topic of technocracy came about, it was very clear that their view of technocracy was that it's just applying technology to make things more efficient. Not that it's it which is that is that's technology, right? That's the potentially but it's not technocracy. Temocracy is actually having scientists and engineers or now AI make decisions for people to actually replace humans from the process not only at the level of the government but then dictating what people what decisions people can make in their

personal life using AI as the governance system that is not technology. And so part of the problem is that nobody's heard of technocracy. And I've and I wonder if now I mean again the algorithms I can guarantee you based on my own traffic stats or or nobody's interested in what I'm saying and I know that's not true because I I've actually talked to people about it people are interested in this. So it's not that's not the cause of the drop off. I think technocracy is one of those key words that's like co from five years ago. If you're talking about technocracy in a negative light well it's technocrats that Elon Musk is explicitly a technocrat. He owns X. Rumble is owned

by technocrats. JD Vance, VC, Ramaswami, Howard Lutnik, uh, Peter Teal. These are people that have a big stake in in Rumble. These so these social media platforms are are controlled by people that that push this ideology. So, it's almost impossible to get the word out. Now, Patrick Wood is the is the authority on this topic. He's been covering it for 45 years of Steven Honeywell saying Streamyard not working for me. Um, I wonder, hold on, let me let me make sure. I want to post the link again just to Right. Let me try the link again. We may be having maybe having some problems.

Hi, Sylvia. Good evening. Sorry I'm late. No worries. um think we may be having some slight some slight technical issues, but I only learned about Patrick Wood three or four years ago. So, I hadn't even heard of him. And then somebody actually on my ex feed it was like, "Oh, hey, take a look at this." And they and they it was this link to a YouTube video that had a PowerPoint presentation. It's like and it shows these people wearing gray suits that are in this this whole technocracy movement. But it was like in the 1930s and they were it was like a cult. So it was all almost Nazis-esque. Everybody was wearing the kind of the standard uniform. It was called Temocracy Inc.

And then I'm going through I'm looking at all this stuff like I've never heard of this entire history. And then you and I'm like is this even real? Then you dig into it you find out yeah this is a complete a complete thing. And when I was researching my book I wanted to understand and what I always try to understand is um what is the source of of things. So where did CBDC's come from? Where was the idea hatched? Who's been pushing it? Who are the organizations that are involved? And you keep asking the question and pushing and going back and going back and going back and getting the history. And then you you delve into and you find, you know, the trilateral

commission pretty much picked up uh the technocracy movement in the 1970s and been pushed forward after there was infighting, a little bit of a a lull for for a while. And then you find out, yeah, no, this is this ideological movement. And then you can track here are the organizations behind it, here are the players behind it, here are the companies behind it. And you do this long enough and then lo and behold, you find that 17 countries pass digital ID laws all at the same time using the same three vendors. And then it doesn't surprise you because you understand that who's pushing this and you find out, oh, you have the Tony Blair Institute nonprofit that is actively consulting

with 40 different countries on this. And then you study which organizations Tony Blair's involved in. It can all be mapped out. You know, people always like to say, "Who is they?" and then the they they try to put into some group. It's, you know, this religious group, it's this, it's this. No, it's a network of people. And it's an evolving network of people, but it is a trackable network of people. You can actually find out who they are. And there are some common themes and common organizations and nonprofits that have been around for decades that have been in the middle of it the whole time. So all you have to do is just ask the qu well I should say all

you have to do is ask the questions. You can't necessarily get the answers. You used to be able to get some of these answers with out of AI and then they started censoring censoring these things. Um and again this is some soft soft censoring because you're like all right well who's been on the board of the Club of Rome Trilateral Commission Council on Foreign Relations and Bilderberg Group. I used to be able to get that information out. Can't get it out now. Um, and so, you know, I can't say it's easy to just press it, but but here's the thing. Patrick Wood has been collecting for 40 years the members of the trilateral commission. The trilateral commission is,

that might be, let me see if I can pull that up. People might find that interesting. So, the trilateral commission doesn't keep their roster available publicly. This is not a not a thing. Let me see if I can even uh let me see if I even have this document on this on this computer. So So my first interaction with Patrick was I was writing my book and I was researching the trial commission and I'm like, well, I wonder who's who's involved in this, who's who's actually on the board. And so I did this and I reached out to him through his website and he sent me a PDF with the current active members and he's been uh creating he's had this database that he has been following

for for 40 years. So he's been tracking. So it's like most organizations and boards they have uh you know terms. So you're on there for like whatever two or three years and then your term is expired and then um and then you know new people come on and so he's been been slowly kind of keeping track of of all that and now let me see if I can find this. Oh here we go. I'll show you this. This is this is this is some exciting news. um potentially if you're if you're into this kind of thing. So, let me see.

See if I can share this window. Here we go. All right. I know a lot of you are listening to this, so I'll I'll actually try to walk through some of this. So, here is what what uh Patrick sent to me. um updated September the 25th, 2023. So, who's on the trial commission? So, again, when you ask who are they? If you can compile this information, you can start to figure this out. Who's on the trial commission? Who's on the council on foreign relations? Who are the members of the builder group? So, here's the leadership and and what you have to know about the trial commission is the tri stands for it's three different areas. North America, Europe, and Asia.

and the Asia is is uh is actually Japan, not China. The founder, so here we go. This is interesting. The founder is David Rockefeller is the founder of the trilateral commission. And then you go through and you can see a lot of these names. Honorary chairman, so he's been documenting this for forever, right? John Claude Trusche, honorary uh chairman, Mario Monte, uh and some other folks. Uh but you know, so now he's got this broken down by region. So, who's involved in the North American group? Well, the North American group has um well, I'll go to some of the some of the bigger names. Michael Bloomberg is part of the board of trilateral commission.

You have um let's see as we scroll down here. Interesting names because Larry Frink, oh, look at that. chairman and CEO of Black Rockck is on there. You have um now what's interesting is that a lot of these are not household names, which which is possibly the more interesting part because it's often said that the real power is is behind the scenes. It's not necessarily going to be the frontman. Of course, you had you had Henry Kissinger on um this this was obviously before he he died. you have this whole host, you know, so these people, I don't know who these people, a

lot of these people tied to the Andrea Mitchell, chief correspondent, NBC News, is part of this. And in in his book, I think it might have been the last book that he published, which is the transhumanism and technocracy, or maybe it's the previous book, but he gave kind of a summary of where the board members come from from these organizations because they're not all CEOs, right? It's like maybe half are executives in industry, then some percentage are from academia, and then some percentage, oh, Larry Summers is on here. Brett Stevens, op-ed columnist, the New York Times. So, there's some percentage of the trilateral commission that's the media, some percent that's

academia, some percent that's business, and you know, those percentages have have generally held up through the years. Then they have fellows they have that they support. So kind of like I guess you know like your WEF young leaders. So these are or maybe your upandcomers. I'm not sure what the what what actually how they how they define fellow. Uh I just noticed the name on here under fellows. Roxan Petraeus probably related to our our famous general. So anyway, one of the ideas that I have is to create that I've been working on is that let's use

their tools and techniques but against them, right? So I started out maybe I'll build a graph database that shows the connections of different people and different ideas and follow money. And then I'm like, you know what, maybe I'll just build an AI and train the AI on all of the information related to technocracy. So I've got this AI coming tomorrow. this uh Nvidia supercomputer thing. It'll it'll be here tomorrow and I'm gonna try to set it up. We'll see how how well it works. But get all of this information. What if I could get all of Patrick Wood's information on the trilateral commission? What if somebody else has the board information on the Council on

Foreign Relations? Now you train an AI on that. Now you can query the AI and you could find out about all of this stuff and then you can graph and visualize this because because you know where they get us is they have all of this surveillance on us and we have no information on them. And so then where we end up is we have people that are yes they're conspiracy theories but it's like somebody's out there saying oh it's the Jews. Somebody's out Dave Dave Smith is out there saying it's the neocons and everything else. How about instead of putting out a theory, what if we collect all of the information and let's analyze it like they do? Let's put it in an AI. Let's put it in a database. Let's map

all the relationships and then let's make it public so people can discuss it. So people can debate it and people can validate the information. Let's use information and transparency and let's try to find out what's actually going on because you know what? We haven't done that. But but Patrick has done more work than anyone on the planet. Look at this. Joseph Kennedy III is uh recent former former members in public service. Mark Brazinski, Anthony Blinkin. Um I mean you know Yeah. So mandatory myocartis writes in uh most people are clueless these groups exist. Yeah, exactly. Club of Rome is another one. Um, and I'll tell you what, talk to talk to uh uh Mark Pacio about

this. I mean, he he he says that he was they tried to recruit him for the Club of Rome when he was part of the satanic thing. Um, this so this stuff's actually going on, but but the people that have the information on it. So again, what I'm saying is let's use technology to our advantage here that let's not be afraid of it. let's let's and use it for, you know, a positive purpose instead of enslaving people to enlighten people. And I think it would be amazing if you took all of these people that I'm showing you on this list and all of the people from all these other boards and then you mapped out what their connections are and you let everybody in the world that knows a little piece of

information about it provide their piece of information about it and then all of a sudden over time you're starting to understand how things work and it's right there and there are no more conspiracy theories. There's information that people can validate and fact check through a public system that can't be censored. This is what I think we should do. This is one one of the things I I've talked about five websites that that I'm going to launch. That's one of the five. I've launched three and a half. The oh nothing website isn't really launched yet. It's rough. But man, this technocracy I'm calling it the open source palunteer to fight technocracy and let's do it. But what I

was saying earlier about people, the reason that I I got so actively involved in Rogers thing is I thought they were going to kill him. He was arrested and thrown in the same jail that John McAfee died in also for tax purposes or whatever it was. So I'm like, I'm studying this and I'm looking at what's going on with CBDC's and I'm looking at Biden's executive order and and at the time people are like, "Oh, well, they just, you know, they just nabbed a rich guy in Spain." I'm like, "This has nothing to do with money." So, so I'm like, "So, this is why, you know, I spoke up about this." But a lot of people would have said, "Oh, yeah. Well, this doesn't look good, but you know,

whatever. It'll probably resolve itself." I've got news for you. Stuff doesn't necessarily resolve itself. If we see something that's bad that we know is going on that that there's something more behind it, we've got to speak up because because most people will not speak up. And so if we get a little bit more courage going and we just continue to get that snowballing, I think you'll be amazed at what happens because they count on our complacency. They count on our fear. They count on our unwillingness to speak out the truth even when what we're speaking out isn't illegal because we know our own government will weaponize lawfare against us to make us compliant. I say

no to all that. And you know, we can win these things. Hey, Stephen. How are you? >> Oh, you're on mute. There you go. >> Good evening. Good evening, Aaron. How you doing tonight? >> Doing well. How are you? >> Uh, I'm doing uh I've seen better days, I've seen worse. Um, a lot of challenges at the moment. >> All the expenses are going up, you know. Um and uh starting to scramble to try to tread water here. >> Yep. Yeah. This is this is tough. This is absolutely tough for everybody. And the thing is, here's the thing. Where

are you seeing in the news that people aren't talking about inflation, right? I mean, so so it was a story under Biden, but then but then if you see something out of Trump, it's oh, oh, you know, look at the price of eggs. Right. We beat that we you know we beat inflation. You know the funny thing is they were going to bring in a guy for was it department of labor or whatever department BLS um who wrote an article in Brownstone um and along with uh God I can't remember his name now it it but basically saying look that the all of these stats are wrong. Here's what the real stats are regarding inflation and labor markets and everything else. and they were going to bring him into the

Trump administration for this role and he was just rejected like within the last two weeks and they're trying to say, "Oh, well, he's out there and everything else." No, this is a guy that put together an analysis that showed what was actually going on with inflation because they change what they're going to use in the basket to compute inflation and everything else. Inflation is ridiculous. Food prices are absolutely completely insane. >> Yeah. I mean, uh, I just walked in the door and, uh, looked on the kitchen table and there's a notice there. I I live in an association. My dues just went up. Um, I I, you know, I I just, uh, realized that my insurance premiums have gone up $600 a month.

>> Wow. >> Uh, my property taxes are up. Um, you know, I'm paying like uh my my mortgage is like about $600 more than it was when I first started paying mortgage because of my property taxes going up. So, I mean, you know, the daily cost of living is just going up. Buying food, you know, gas, everything is up. I mean, gas is down a little bit, but it's not really significant. um you know, compared to a couple years ago with the fuel. But I mean, you know, and I I just I have like I have repairs to do on my house. I have repairs to do on my cars, and I just don't know where the money is going to come from because there's less money and more things that need to be have money spent on them.

So, it's uh challenging. >> Yep. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't you know I mean I I don't know I don't know how people uh would say that inflation isn't happening because uh everything's going up and uh you know I I I know the insurance game and I know the whole medical industry game and I came out of it you know like 15 years ago and was in an insure was in a healthc care co-op which was worked very well for us when we were just a couple and maybe had one child. Um but then it started to become uh a little absorbent. Um and uh you know I changed companies and they they were paying my insurance premium. I had an H I have an HSA now

and they were paying my premium but the insurance company raised the premiums and uh the company said well we can't we can't afford to pay the the full pre the you know you're going to have to pay the the excess. So now, you know, I have this extra $600, you know, cost per month. Um, and that's not even inflation. That's just that's just uh that's just the establishment tightening the screws on everybody. So, you know, but yeah, it's getting harder to live. >> Yep. It is it is getting harder to live. I mean, and insurance, you know, again, insurance is just disconnected from from reality. There's no incentive within the system to actually contain cost or improve health

and and their business model is locked in through regulation. And so this kind of thing is is absurd. Yeah. So how many people now I've got a high deductible plan with an HSA and you're still paying money into it. This is why I'm doing the the medical tourism thing because it's just like because people realize you can travel to a different country to get a procedure done often and it's less than your co-ay. That's how bad and out of whack the system is. It has no relationship to anything. But part of the reason for this is now over half of health care costs are paid for by the federal government. So it's the federal government that is that is dictating terms. And of course, you know, it's not

hard to completely defraud Medicare or Medicaid or, you know, the Veterans Administration. People people make millions of dollars defrauding those things. There's no real oversight in that. And then you have situations where the government may underpay doctors and people in the medical community. So then they have to overcharge other people and the whole system is out of whack and there's no there's no incentive to improve it. Nobody has any reason to make things more efficient because the inefficiencies are codified into law. But it's funny. I I looked up inflation just to see what what's trending on X. So I I'm curious to see if other people in the comments have

this similar experience. So this is a guy says, "One of the char one of the charts I'll be working with tonight on my crash mode blog post. Oil is at a five-year low as we transition from inflation to deflation. Is that a narrative? Y'all y'all thinking about deflation? Is deflation on the horizon? Oh, we shouldn't worry about inflation now. We should worry about deflation. Are you kidding me? 10 year now trading at sub4%. I mean, of course, we do have silver and gold. Gold at $4,200 or whatever it is. Silver 54 at least last time I checked. I mean, we do have banks collapsing. So, there's a bunch there's I just got somebody tweeted something. Some of

these banks are down like three, four, eight, nine, seven%. Nobody's explaining why the banks are completely in debt. Like we're really we're teetering on the brink. The problem is that we are teetering on on the brink and they know we're teetering on the brink. And that's why they're putting in place things like digital IDs and programmable currency because when the S hits the fan, they want to be able to roll out the solution that they've been secretly putting in. Everybody knows I think you know my friend um Josh Styleman said that you know we've been living in a you know since World War II we've been living in a Ponzi scheme and now the bill's due

and no one wants to pay the bill and there's no way to pay the bill and so you know we're now in a pretty desperate situation. So, I'm curious, uh, Aaron. I mean, like, I just reenrolled, right? And, uh, I didn't realize that the cost was going to jump so much. I figured, ah, maybe I'll have to pay like an extra $100 a month or something. But then, you know, bam. It's like I asked my office manager and she's like, "Yeah, it's going to be like uh $300 more out of each. I get I got two pay periods, right? So, how do you handle health care? How do you I do you go out of the country like you said when you need health care? I mean, if you need something done, >> I I haven't needed I haven't needed

anything. I haven't been to a doctor in 10 years. I I just So, I haven't had any >> I haven't had any need to use it, but if if I did, I would use medical tourism, which is part of why we're building this online marketplace because I've been I've been researching this subject for years. And so now I'm kind of like, okay, I'm just going to build it. Um because I mean, you could go to and you know, it sounds weird because you say something like, oh, go to Mexico for healthcare. And somebody's like, "Oh, well, you know, it's it's this dirty environment and everything else." No, there are doctors that are well-trained doctors that specifically move and there

are pockets of of medical professionals in different countries in different places all over the world because they know that they can be more success. they can actually make more money and have more freedom working within a foreign country with with other medical professionals than they can work trying to attach themselves to a hospital with the reimbursement system with the government and health insurance. So a lot of people just assume if I say medical tourism, you can go to the Dominican Republic, you can go to Jamaica. There are places that you can go and the immediate assumption is well these people, you know, they think of these uh, you know, movies from the 80s

where it's like people going to the Caribbean medical school or whatever for rejects or whatever. Everybody always just jumps onto that. But it's not true. You first of all, the care in the United States sucks. We do not have the best health care in the world based on outcomes at all. nor have we for I don't know if we ever did but I remember when I I actually studied public health for a while and we were 17th then or whatever right like so our healthcare outcomes aren't great we've sold ourselves on we've got the best medicine the best people the best trained people not based on objective data so I think if you laid out all the medical tourism and then you

put a reputation management system on top of it this would be incredible and by the way I'm not even talking about minor stuff I'm talking about heart transplants. I'm talking about, you know, a lot of people might assume that I'm talking about, you know, cosmetic procedures or whatever. We're talking about major surgeries. And, you know, we always have the TV will like to paint things out. I mean, the amount of propaganda that we have, it's like, oh, they'll show, you know, Prince so and so from this country, you know, snuck their kid in. I remember the that that show the West Wing. They had some some example of, you know, there was a country, it was like Iran or something and and the the

magnanimous president allowed the the relative of the head of Iran to come in for a medical procedure because the United States has the best medical. It's all this stuff is propaganda. So, um, so this is so, so that's what I would do. But then beyond that, the the the key is Soviet writes, apricot seeds, intermittent fasting, 72-hour fasts, hit workouts really improve health. You know, this is this is true. What I don't want to just focus on care just building prevention. And a big part of it is trying to wean yourself. Most of the prescription drugs that you're on, you probably don't need. It's not always the case, but most of the time it is actually the case. And the problem is

some of them, particularly if they're psych meds, you can't just stop them. You have to taper off them very slowly. But a lot of the medic medications that we've been given don't actually improve our health and they're really hard to get off of because of the side effects. So I want to build a prevention aspect to this too. I you know I was mentioning Mike Adams um AI which I encourage everybody to download the Enoch AI and I'm gonna just pop this up. the first thing that I typed in uh give me 10 cure cancers uh excuse me 10 cures for cancer and so it did right good luck getting that out of another AI first one highdose vitamin C IV and oral generates hydrogen peroxide

in tumors inducing oxidative stress apoptosis uh next hyperothermia fever therapy baking soda is tea cesium chloride cannabis oil, Latrrell, which is vitamin B17, iodine therapy, ozone and UV blood irradiation, coffee enemas and liver flushes. I mean anyway I so um the thing is so Mike has been collecting data on alternative health therapies I mean this health ranger for years but then what he's done is he's augmented it with other information. He just told me today I I want to maybe I'm wrong on this, but he said that he had 720 terabytes of data

from China. So they've been translating information from China into English and he's been training his models on this. We we we have been so conditioned to think that modern medicine in America is the cutting edge that once you understand the history behind what Rockefeller intentionally did for profit to our medical system, you realize, hey, you know what? Why aren't we looking at everything out there? Why aren't we looking at historical different modalities and everything and trying to see what all of that is? And so what it comes out with is Sylvia says this too. I, you know, I'm not, you know, actually I I' I've aired. So I've I've uh I I went to the bathroom and I forgot to

put my glasses back on. But the reason that I wear these glasses is I've been listening to Dr. Jack Cruz. I don't necessarily agree with all of his stuff, but but he makes some really compelling points about blue light. And when we think about the diseases that we have, you know, people will say, well, life expectancy is really high. When you take out infant mortality, I I don't think life expectancy has improved that much at all. Maybe it hasn't improved. I remember going back and looking at at the Revolutionary War period. Look how old Thomas Jefferson and George Washington and uh Benjamin Franklin and look at how old these people live to be. I mean maybe you know a few of them one

of them died in a duel but when you actually look at these are people that in the United States we didn't have clean drinking water. I remember reading about uh what is it John Boilston who because we didn't have clean drinking water he had next to his bed instead of water he had madera the alcoholic drink that's kind of like port like these people were not you know what I mean like by so by modern day standards and these people were living to be old so so cutting out trying to get out of the poisonous food system that we have and getting sunlight and the funny thing is it's like oh oh you know you strip this down. I was like, "Oh, what I really needed to do was get sleep and get a

massage." But instead, what I'm doing is, you know, we're sitting and we're surrounded by computers. We're surrounded by blue light. The blue light actually increases your insulin levels. The blue light messes with your dopamine. Some of the studies that Jack Cruz did, he's like, "Look, they've been doing, you know, we know about mind control and MK Ultra and all of these other things." And they, you know, they they used to, you know, do these experiments where they'd put a a plant plant something um an electrode in a bowl or whatever and then try to operate it by remote control to to change the behavior of the bowl and then they realize they don't even need the

implant. They can actually just use different frequencies like blue blue light. So So, so this is kind of one of those things where you got to fight fire with fire. So, I wear these these red glasses to block the blue light to stop the disruption of my sleep cycle because, you know, if you're if you're before all of this technology, you know, the sun sets at at a certain period of time and your body treats the bra the blue light as if oh, the blue light signals that we're, you know, we're in the peak peak part of the day, but it's not time to sleep. And then this disregulates your entire body. So anyway, long story short is there's a whole bunch of things that I think that

we can do preventatively to avoid this. My my grandmother didn't go to a doctor for like 40 years. She lived to be 87 years old. She didn't go to a doctor. I remember she used to have like supplements but she just didn't go to the doctor. And something that I've noticed is and we're starting to realize this. So things like mammograms, things like colonoscopies, a lot of diagnostic tests, turns out even certain cancer biopsies, it's been stated that cancer biopsies actually spread cancer throughout the body. So a lot of these diagnostic tests, it's like, oh, hey, look, you know, we just caused the disease that we measured that you have. Here's some pills. Here's a medical procedure.

>> Yeah. And I, you know, I don't I don't go to the doctor either. I think I've been at the doctor maybe once or twice in the past 10 years uh myself and I don't take any prescription drugs. Um and uh I do have a story to share actually. I was on my honeymoon with my wife in Jamaica. I had to get five stitches. Uh the guy came to the infirmary on the resort. He had a uh a wireless uh point of sale, took my credit card, and you know how much I was charged? Hundreds of dollars. like like it was like $250 $300 I think. Now if I were to get those same stitches in the states right now today how much do you think that would cost? >> Yeah thousand thousands of dollars. >> Yeah.

>> And and by the way think about this. >> You wouldn't even be told in advance. You know this is a situation where they come and it's like oh yeah here's how much it is. Pay for it. You go to a hospital or you go to a doctor and they don't tell you the prices upfront. You get a bill at some point unexpectedly later and no one ever told you it was going to cost this much and you can't dispute it. Like what kind of system is this? This isn't this has nothing to do with markets, by the way. You usually there's some concept of a contract and pricing and agreement or whatever. What kind of situation do you have where you go in for a service, they don't tell you

how much it costs, and then you have to pay for it. Yeah, it's it's it's not normal business practices, that's for sure, because it's all rigged and it's a racket, you know. Um, but I I'm I'm starting to think about, you know, how I can exit this uh this system, how I can get rid of uh this plan that I signed on to for another year. like I I don't know maybe I have a you know a period a grace period where I can get out of it but you know then there's always the concern well I have money in the HSA account um I have my wife and my three children my oldest is 15 they're all younger than that so there's like fear motivating me not to

do that so uh you know you know my wife has some health complications and you know so there's some concerns that you know that my f I I don't really care about myself too much, but my family is concerning to me. So, what are your thoughts on that? >> So, I I put your assets like put your house or whatever in a trust. Um, one of the things that you want to do is protect your assets so that if something goes really bad, then you can run up the bills and then, you know, you're not actually going to lose your assets. And I'm not even kid. So this is the thing that I you know like wealthy people don't pay taxes like Jeff Bezos doesn't pay taxes and and part of the

reason that everybody else gets stuck with the bill is that other people do this. It's completely legal. So you can put your house in a trust and you can put put things in these legal instruments and then you know honestly I mean it sounds bad but based on how the health care system works put yourself in a position where they're not they they can't legally deny you care. So put yourself in a position where if you can't pay the bill, they still can't take your assets. Because because by the way, if you now, if you're a moral person, you'd say, "Well, that seems like it's wrong." But then when you realize that the reason that the prices that you're paying for

everything are like 10 to 100 times what they actually cost is because this is how the entire system works. So you're being treated as a fool because they're they're treading on your goodwill and good nature to be the guy that's paying for everyone else. Well, these are legal. Everything that I'm telling you right now, these things are legal. You can put these assets in a trust. You can you can shield all of these things. So, everything I'm saying is completely legal. So, you might as well do it because the system itself is not moral and you're forced into it. So where does one start to uh you know in the path of uh putting you know doing what what our our uh our slave masters

are doing which is you know putting everything into trusts to avoid that those kind of liabilities. >> So there are a couple of ways to do this. No, I'm I'm not giving legal advice, you know, publicly here in 3,700 people, whatever. Um, but you know, it's interesting that you bring that up. So, we're at the point now where, let me see, I'm going to test something. >> Um, how I'm using Mike I'm using Mike Adams AI. How do I create a trust to shield my home and other assets from crushing

unexpected medical bills? This is a good test for him. Let's see. Let's see what he comes up with. I'll share this. Let me um We're doing this live. Mike, I apologize if this doesn't come out the way you want it to, but that's all right. Um, you can always adjust it. >> Go to Oh, I'm already sharing screen. I'm sharing this. Um, all right.

Oh, that's interesting. Try that now. Here we go. All right. We are using Enoch, Mike Adams new thing and I said, "How do I create a trust to shield my home and other assets for but from crushing unexpected?" Creating a medical asset protection trust is a strategic way to protect your home savings and investments from potential seizure. Step one, understand the threat. Medical

bankruptcy is a leading cause of financial ruin in America. Even with insurance, a single ER visit can exceed 50,000. Choose the right trust structure. Domestic asset protection trust in the US. Best for protecting real estate, bank accounts, and investment properties. Shielding assets from medical debt if set up before a claim arises. Fraudulent transfer laws prevent protection. States with strong AP laws. Nevada, Delaware, Alaska, South Dakota, and Utah. Now, this is something I want to say about this. So, you may live in a in a particular state. You don't have to create the trust in your actual state. You can actually create these financial instruments in different states. So for

instance, I would never incorporate in New Hampshire. I have different structures and different things in different places. You can always shop around and don't assume because you live somewhere that you have to do a legal structure from within your own state. So you can create one of these trusts, domestic asset protection trust in a state like, you know, Nevada or whatever. So you transfer title of your home into a trust naming an independent trustee not yourself as the legal owner. The trust holds the asset in beneficiary owned form meaning you can retain use control while creditors cannot attach it. So that's that's that. Now uh there's this goes through the process of what

you have to do um you know in terms of you have to select a trustee, you have to draft the documents and everything else. Now, at this point though, you can use AI and you can use something like Legal Zoom to even do some of the drafting of the documents. At the end of the day, this is the thing that I found. I and I've run a bunch of companies and I've dealt with a bunch of lawyers and what you find is they will charge you for documents that they've already written for other clients. So, they're taking something that they've already used and they're charging you billable hours for something that they already created and are reusing. And a lot of these stuff, these are like standard

terms, right? It's like you're not the only one. I mean, at the end of the day, it's like, okay, this is a trust. People put assets in it. Here's the boilerplate language. Now, list what your assets are, right? And then they'll try to charge you $10,000 for that. Well, it turns out if you're clever, you can use something like Legal Zoom and then use AI to help clarify these things and you can use that to get yourself through most of the process. Again, I'm actually advocating that take you know part of taking control of your own life here is is is from all experts including lawyers and just and then just realize what game you're playing here. It's like okay well

I'm try So this is like one way to use AI. It's like all right I want to protect my assets. What legal ways can I go about doing this? So I type this into Mike's thing and now I learn about this kind of trust. Then I can use different AIs to just answer just keep asking questions and then you're you will find out that you become empowered. you know about it and then you can use these things to draft your own documents and at the end of it what happens you've moved all of your assets into a trust and now you're shielded and now you're not because because what's happened how many people are working jobs and doing things where they're afraid they're living out of fear they're afraid

they're going to lose everything they're doing things that they don't want and there are these legal structures available and you implement something like this now you don't have to worry about that now the the worst case scenario that you're worried about of oh we're going to be completely destitute we're not going to have a place to live we're not going to have anything to eat. You can you can actually mitigate some that that takes away all of the risk of living, but you can take away the I'm going to go in, they're not going to tell me how much it costs. I'm going to get a bill for $50,000 and now I've got to decide whether I, you know, am putting food on the table or whether I'm

paying the hospital and then knowing that the hospital will hire lawyers to try to bankrupt you and then they'll threaten you. Then the the the tactics that they take. So just set up a trust. So again, I'm not g giving specific advice on this, but as a matter of process, understand and everybody listening to this, understand, you know, rich people use these kinds of tactics all the time. I mean, how do you think it is that Trump has filed for bankruptcy so many times, but yet his net worth doesn't seem to go down and it's not illegal, right? And so, so, so you if you are thinking that you're acting unlawfully, you're not. Everything that I've just described here is legal. Is it

moral? Well, well, ideally, we would we wouldn't have any of these problems if we lived in a moral system. You wouldn't be in a situation where medical care would could bankrupt you because if we actually had a market-based system, medical care wouldn't cost that much. The whole thing is just broken. So, so anyway, that my my strong advice to you right now would be to look into a domestic asset protection trust and and just shield your assets first and foremost. And where do I uh where do I uh access uh the download for uh Enoch so I can install it locally on my laptop and use it and not worry about what AI is doing to me online. >> Great uh great thought. Let me I'm going to post the link

in the comments. Let me find it here. Um I'm Yeah, I'm I can't tell you how happy I am that he did this. You know, I had him on my show and he was talking about doing this. I didn't know for sure if he was going to to make it happen and and he finally got it done. So, I'm posting the link right now. And for those who are listening and can't see a link to Mike Adams self-custody AI, I will call it. It is bright. u r i g htu.aid downloadd downloads. And next week, I haven't figured out

what the format's going to be. I because I'm I'm going to pre-record the uh the episode, but I will probably um maybe even record myself using it or whatever and maybe even doing like an installation video and showing how to use it. But man, these are powerful tools. Okay, you get a self-custody AI and then we start moving into deooled phones and then you start using your own cryptocurrency. You don't you don't have to do it all at once, but every time you make one decision like this, you're you're one step out of the system and you're one step closer to personal sovereignty. >> Yeah, because I'm just about ready to fullon, you know, exit the beast system.

I mean, uh I'm totally fed up with it. I work in the medical industry. Um and I hate going to hospital. I spent three days in hospitals this week working on different machines. Um I don't believe in the medical system at all and yet I'm working in it and uh slaving in it and providing profits for that. Um I feel like it's blood money. Uh everything's a lie and uh and here I am contributing to it. >> Yep. That's how they that's how they get all of us. Um so this is why you know again the Zeno thing let's we can figure out how to create alternatives. So when we do this medical marketplace it's only part of it. Again everything that they have

centralized can be recreated or not even recreated reinvisioned because I I don't even want to say let's duplicate what they're doing centrally but yet you know add privacy to it. Let's I hope I can do this effectively because the health care thing is is a it's a personal one for me too because I started a healthcare company that was destroyed by Obamacare. But and my dad actually was in the insurance business like long before that. I so I've seen how this thing works from the inside out. And it's like like I was saying earlier, people just assume because these institutions have been around for so long and there's so much money involved and there's all this education

and everybody goes through all the certification that it must be born of good intent and that this is this is the accumulated wisdom of humanity and it's been getting incrementally better and then you realize the whole thing's a scam and it started out bad and it's gotten worse and it's hard to it's hard to get to that point and but then when you get to that point it's like man anybody could design a better system than we have like a random person on the street could design a better health care system that we have. And then when you realize that, you realize, oh well, we can create these parallel systems and we don't have to worry about these rules. We're actually creating completely new

systems from scratch and completely separate systems from first principles. So that's what's available through Zo. I'm not saying it's not instant riches for people right right away. But I mean I'm saying this is the kind of thing that we can start creating are are these new new systems. And you know for me the part that I like the least about healthcare is that there it's not based on the idea of I mean if it's a market then the whole point is you're trying to satisfy the customer. And I'm actually not and when I say that I want to say most of what we have is cronyism. So that that I don't want to imply that that that means that I think that most of the industries that we have um are

are actually marketbased. I mean even big tech they're increasingly their biggest customers are the government and most of the way people make money is not through voluntary exchange but through corruption influence pedaling and buying off politicians. That to me is not market that's not a market function. But if if you look at who's involved between you and your health when you're engaging with the with the system, it's like people complain about Klaus Schwab's stakeholder capitalism. There are more people involved in the decision of your basic health care and you're a minor player in it. You're like 5% of the decision in what you get through the health care system. And when you take

out all those middle people and middle organizations as being part of the solution and you realize hey whatever whatever is available whatever is out there whether it's holistic this or whatever um there's infinite possibility in ways of of improving health and most of those are unavailable to you by law based on the structure of the system and so it's liberating it and I would be amazed I I was talking to somebody about I think it was Courtney Turner last last episode about I've always thought about having a system that's like pract practitioner based meaning just where people get together online that maybe have a a this similar condition and they just share with each other what works

and what doesn't. What would imagine what would happen if you just did that because that's not even available. There may be a thousand people with the exact same condition that you that you have and you're only able to hear what your doctor who went to medical school is told he can tell you as somebody who doesn't even have the disease and probably doesn't even know that much about it. That's all that's available to you through the system. what kind of a knowledge gap or knowledge improvement would we have and what kind of innovation we have if people could just share information with each other. We have these things like HIPPA. We have all these laws that that that they get

pitched is trying to help uh help you and all they do is they protect the doctors and they protect the system and make it difficult for you to to actually make your own information about your own health actionable. It's it's amazing how it works. So, um, we can we can, you know, build all of these things and and and and again, the systems are so bad that even a mediocre idea would be an improvement. Uh, Cassandra, I don't go to doctors either. Medical tourism is great. I know people that go to Turkey. Yeah. And again, by the way, a lot of this you would you would think that the travel costs I use this example and I've got to find it because it it came up on TikTok

or something which I don't even usually watch, but it was I use this example of somebody in California that found it cheaper to go to Thailand to get a root canal than to stay in California and use their their dental insurance. And you would think I mean Thailand, wow. I mean, that's got to be ridiculous. the airfare and everything else and and h how is that even possible and the the transportation must be a huge barrier and it turns out it's not as bad as you might think. Cassandra says fasting works. Um fasting does work and uh you know since we are celebrating Roger I did do that I did that 40-day fast for Roger um in back in April like ending in May ending on like May the 11th or

whatever. I don't recommend 40 days. Um, just by the way, um, but 21 days and after a 3-day fast, your immune system resets. Once you're into like 7 days, you are generating new stem cells. And it's it's amazing. There's this guy, Dr. Allen Goldhammer, and he's not a medical I think he's a chiropractor, which by the way, it's interesting. you'll find a lot of chiropractors that do some really innovative stuff, but he's had a water only fasting clinic for um years and um and you know, the results are cancer's been cured, a whole variety of other uh very serious conditions that have been cured. And of course, you can't say that or publish any of that or

the FDA will come in to arrest you. But he's collected the data. And when I was doing the 40-day fast and I was doing this podcast, I was I was doing for some of it I'm like because when you're fasting, you are thinking about food. You're thinking about everything. You're thinking about your relationship to the world. And so that this is where during fasting you really start to ask questions of why does this work this way? And you end up having a lot of revelations about not just food but about questioning how the world works in general because you are completely present um and and in the moment. And so um so I released a bunch of information about the health care system. I did a whole

bunch of research during that time and I I can't say enough about about fasting and then you know even strategically how to how to use it. You can just reset I mean there have been people that have been suicidal and that did you know that thought they were going to starve themselves to death and then the actual the act of fasting reset whatever was going wrong with their with their mental balance and and and situation. So I was going to write a book about it and I actually started writing a book. That's one of the things like by by day 21 I was like doing 10 different things at the at a time. You wouldn't think that's the case but you get into a period of absolute hyperproductivity

uh and clarity. No brain fog complete mental mental focus and you know it's amazing. Uh so yeah fasting fasting works but there's no money in doing nothing. There isn't even any there's no supplement that there's not a supplement in it. There's no food. There's no doctor's visit. Um it's amazing what what can be done with that. Uh Cassandra says Dr. Mindy Peltz gives you explanation and techniques of fasting. She focused on women's health. However, it's for everyone. Fasting is the cure. So I haven't checked that out, but I I mean I would look look into that. Yeah. So Dr. Mindy Peltz. So that's u definitely worth uh looking into. So, Mindy Peltz, um, Dr. Fong, F O N G. There's, um,

Goldhammer and I'm trying to think, uh, Dr. Berg is actually pretty good on intermittent fasting. He hasn't done as much on long-term fasting. I know Dave Asprey had done some stuff on this as well. So, the funny thing is when I was when I was doing the fast, you know, so certain things would happen and I done a 37 day fast before I did the 40-day fast and I had to stop that because of my mouth. I couldn't sleep because it was just because you're you're you stop producing saliva and there's all kinds of weird stuff. So, I tried to try to mitigate against that, but I was having other issues and so I was asking AI. So, I'm at Jason Fun. So, I'm like, I'm on day

37 and this is happening. What do I do? And the AI including Grock were telling me, "Oh, you shouldn't do a fast that long. it's not safe. And so then I would ask a question like, okay, well, what's your data that suggests 37-day fast isn't safe. And it's like, well, oh, you're right. Uh, we don't actually have that data, but that data doesn't exist, and an independent review board probably wouldn't even validate doing a 40-day fast because it's not safe. Well, that that's a non-answer. So, so then I asked Mike uh Adams, this was before he released his thing, and he actually had from some data set somewhere, a list of different diseases and conditions that

had been mitigated by prolonged fasting, including like some examples of MS, various cancers, and everything else. You cannot get that out of any AI. And you know, even mentioning something like this, I mean, this will be, you know, the few people that I can reach on on YouTube. This might might get me a strike to even mention these things. You mentioned cures for disease related to anything and that's a red flag. You certainly couldn't talk about that. It's not like I'm like, you know, what are they going to say? I'm trying to what? Scam people out of not eating to improve their health, right? I mean, it's not there's there's no argument. Anyway, there's a whole long story we

could do about the FDA and uh things that they've done to to censor valuable and helpful uh information from getting out. This is one of the reasons I recommend Mike's AI. It's great for a lot of things, but one of the areas that it excels in is in being trained on this different alternative health information, which is completely not in any of these other AIs. They're not trained on it. They wouldn't even consider it. And I love a So, I will say I love AI in particular for programming, right? I I actually Claude is is a great AI for coding. Right? I'm trying to make a website. I'm trying to scrape information from here. Do whatever. It's a great AI, but if you

ask it questions about TechNox, I get censored. It will not give me a response more often than it gives me a response when I'm looking for that kind of information. So, after a while, I mean, the approach that I take is I probably use, I'm not even kidding, 20 different AIs, maybe even more for different different things. and you get to learn like, okay, this one has been trained to be to sensor around this. This one is good for this. So, you use all of them as as different tools, but but MIX is great for for health data, for things that are, you know, off the grid, uh, alternative currencies. If you want to find out, you know, things that the government doesn't want you to know that

that these other AIs aren't likely to be trained on, it's great. So again, AI isn't bad, but you really got to be be careful about how understanding, you know, what goes into the different AIs versus versus what comes out. Sylvia says the circular reasoning of AI. Yeah. No, some some of them are, but I I'll tell you there there are truly breakthroughs and and it really is a gamecher. So I I you know I probably will I don't know how to do it. I want to do a podcast showing this. Yeah. And AI hallucinations. There are hallucinations but there also ways to contain hallucinations. The the thing about AI and and I'm like I said I'm I

got I bought this Nvidia supercomput. I'm going to train it on technocracy data. But the thing that you have to keep in mind about the AI is you have to train it. So it's it's and and you have to like so the humans are still involved in training it. Now of course the issue is all right well which humans were involved in the training and so that's where you can have the issues but the AIs are getting more are getting more intelligent and there and I think that there will be breakthroughs in even how the AIs work themselves how how they'll start to become more self-correcting but there's no doubt I so I I'm trying to figure out how to even show what I do because you know usually when I'm

showing websites or whatever it's just it's kind of weird um and so much of the process processes, trial and error. But, you know, I've been thinking about so when when running a company, so typically what I would do if I was doing a startup is, you know, I'd form an advisory board with people that have domain expertise in different areas that I that I don't have. And, you know, I would consult with the advisory board because because you realize it's like, all right, I only know so much. And and usually if hopefully if you're doing it right, you realize that what you know is is small and much smaller over time. I mean, you may know more over time, but if you

think you know more relative to what you don't know, you're probably doing it wrong. And so you bring in advisors and people that know more about this, but you still exercise your judgment to make sure that the data that they're giving you, they're giving you out of their expertise and not out of bias or whatever. there's there's you still have judgment in it. Um but I found AI is really useful for this. So if I'm if I'm working on trying to solve a problem, I I say to myself, do I even know how to solve this problem? Like what is so in other words, what is the best process for for doing this? Who knows how to think about this better? And rather than defaulting to the AI,

I'm like, okay, let's assemble an advisory board with three people that are the best at handling these different types of problem solving. and then have the advisory board consult and actually talk amongst itself and then give me a recommendation. I still make the decision based on the output. But I'm but I'm getting simulated information that's trained on actual people that know more about things than I do. I will tell you it may sound ridiculous, but it's it's really liberating. It helps me to think better. It it actually allows me to expand my problem solving. Now, I've thought about taking this to the next level, building this. You can clone voices or

you can create voices. Now, at this point, and you can even use avatars. You could so you could create an an advisory board of people where I speak to the AI that I've created that I've trained based on specific people and specific knowledge and I can actually have a back and forth where I'm actually seeing their avatar talk to me. So, I'm interfacing with the AI not just by typing, but but through voice. It sounds it sounds maybe it sounds a little weird or it sounds we're fine, but it it I I will tell you it's I I may be able to show show this probably not until closer to the end of the year. But I've also thought about having this first principles discussion. So, people will often say,

well, what would the founders do? So, we look at this decay of of the US, right? we look at what's happened with with the country and there are some people that are die hard that believe that the constitution was um oh so I've got a hold on I've got a question here well I don't have a question yet somebody that wants to do a question um but that that believed that the constitution was the end all beall and I'm not saying it was that it's bad I'm saying that it's conceivable that in 250 years there might be a better way of doing Um, but what if you train an AI? You you trained you could train an AI on the complete and total works of Aristotle and you could create an avatar that's

trained only on Aristotle's actual works. You could do the same thing with Plato. And so now you're interacting with the avatar, but the avatar is just a way of presenting that particular person's body of work, but it's trained on their work. So when people think about AI and what they don't like about it, they're like, well, you know, okay, it's hallucinating or what's this data based on? How is it spitting back the results? Well, you have the ability, and again, I'm saying this as a a way to do this where you could train your own AI. I'm not saying this is easy to do or that everyone's going to do this, but I I'm thinking about training an AI. Here's the Thomas Jefferson

avatar based on Thomas Jefferson's complete works. Here's one on this. Then you could set up a simulation where you've got Thomas Jefferson talking to Alexander Hamilton based on their own works. Now, is it actually them? No, it's not actually them, but it's based on their own work and you're training it on their work. Well, isn't that useful from a standpoint of if you wanted to have a brainstorming session to be able to interact with a avatar version of these people that's based on their actual words? I think you can learn something from that. It doesn't mean that it's definitively them, but I think it's a an interesting way to as an individual learn and to

interact with this material. So, I don't know that may sound weird, but I I I will tell you I'm playing around with a bunch of different things that these are this is the opposite of a technocratic system. This is about you being able to engage with ideas and and people for yourself. Like, this is a private thing or it could be a public thing. It's just fascinating to to think about. We'll see what happens. Um, so hold on. Can I read this question? So, I just got a private uh chat. I'm gonna try to um get permission to Okay, so our oldest 15 just started college classes. They are

asking him to use chat GPT to get information for his classes. What are your thoughts? I I had to sign in to help him today. So, here's my experience with this, you know. So for instance with writing because I write articles and I've written a book and I'm working on another book. What I found is that AI first of all it's really bad at writing like it can give you a it can give you like generic stuff but it's not it's not actually good cohesive writing maybe getting better but when you use it it can be a good research tool provided that it gives you the original sources. So it because it can hallucinate sources. it can actually make up that, you know, oh, this it'll make up

publications and dates. It'll put it in like the format that you would expect to see a bibliography or a citation in, and then when you go to look it up, it turns out it doesn't exist, the article doesn't exist, the publication doesn't exist. So, it's good at finding. So, as long as, and it's all about what prompts you use, and by the way, it's getting better at this. Um, I would recommend Perplexity for that uh for for doing that because Perplexity will actually give you back research with citations and chat GPT has maybe gotten better, but I I actually stopped using chat GPT when I actually found it wasn't even reliable for giving me sources, let alone information. But

but that was a while ago. So the the models are getting better. But I I say always try to get to the first source. So even if you're getting a source from something that it says is a source, like make sure you can find the link and actually get to the first source. And in that respect, I mean, think about it, I like to think about it this way. So, you know, when I was in school or when I was 15, remember, you know, we used to go to the library and we have to use the card catalog. We'd actually have to find physical, you know, pages of things or whatever and then document these in a in a bibliography. Well, I mean, AI is useful if it can search all of the information in the world and give you

the the exact citation and the exact quote without you having to do any of that work. That's a useful part of AI. But if the information is giving you is wrong, that's problematic. So, I I would say this, double check. Now, sometimes the d the double-checking is not hard because usually it's just clicking on a link that that it's spitting back to you. But always, you know, always verify. I would I would never publish anything as fact or put something in an article based on something AI said unless I could validate the source. But again, it it's great at finding sources. And so I would say use it, but if you're like if you're putting something out there that

you're like that's actually important that you're staking your reputation on, then um then double check. So um all right Sylvia says oh we made our will using chat GPT. Yeah I mean you can use chat GPT you can use that the different models I like to triangulate models as well. Um, one of the things while AI is not good at writing, it's good at editing and it's good at I'll use it to like set up set it up as a like an editor. Say, okay, rate this article based on these five dimensions and then actually get different AIs to rate it and then I'll ask it give me your top

five suggestions for improvement. That's a great way to use AI in my opinion for writing not in writing itself but in researching sources that you verify and then it's it's really good at editing and making making some um some adjustments. So, and I you know I don't know which and I know a lawyer I'm not going to say his name but I mean he told me he's like it has changed his practice. He's gone all in on AI. He has all of his lawyers you use AI. And he said, you know, he can with his small staff, he can defeat large law firms just because they're really good at at using the AI. And when you think about what law is, law is about you're trying to find case law. You're trying to find

precedent and then you're trying to like you assemble your arguments based on what information you can find, which by the way is a whole other thing about law when you think about how ridiculous this is. You know, you're in a lawsuit, you hire a lawyer, and your lawyer is trying to dig and do research to find the case history that makes your best case. The other side is doing that, and then they give that to depending on the kind of litigation, a a judge, let's say it's it's not a jury trial, and then the judge has his clerks go and try to do research to figure out which side's claims were better. I mean to be honest with you that is something that AI is

better at than people because it's about analyzing text. So um but that actually leads to more important glaring issues that we actually have with the legal system itself. So um Sylvia says your discussion about AI avatars is fascinating but I'm going to need to watch the rest. Okay. Um, yeah. I mean, look, I I have to show I don't know if I'm going to be able to make it work the way I want it to make it work. And some of this is just me having to figure out how to train train these models, but but I know that I find that I do a lot of brainstorming. I do a lot of my best thinking walking or whatever or talking through things. And so, the I mean, the ability to be

able to have a conversation with people that you know know more than you, but to be able to do it in a way that's that's not just typing. I mean again people learn different ways and people um respond better to different things but I I think I think it might be an effective tool with a lot of applications for be people to be able to create these simulated environments where one where you're interacting and then another where you have different avatars interacting wi with each other and and I know some people are are horrified by a lot of these ideas um but I I think that It's it's worth it's worth testing because I I I think a lot about what companies are and and how

they're structured and and and man, you know, you get a lot of inefficiency in businesses because you have processes that are out ofd but then the people are trained in those processes. Then this is why companies die because they become so rigid and inflexible that they can't that they can't adapt and and so you know so AI is going to revolutionize a lot of things and it it it's scary if your outlook is that we live in a world of scarcity and this is going to put me out of a job and then I'm going to starve and that's a risk but that but this is where the whole kind of discussion of what we do with this. On the other hand, if it increases economic activity, if you've

seen some of these robots that I can't remember the model that they're all like version three of these things now, but they have them where they show doing dishes or being able to have enough fine motor control and the ability to to pick up a grape without piercing the skin or breaking the the grape. So, it's these things are are already at that level and then the AI is being put put in there. That's scary. I mean, you see the Boston Dynamics stuff and and you see the military applications of that which are which are horrifying. On the other hand, is is it so bad if you never had to do housework again? I mean, now we're kind of like we're now we're in the Jetsons

with uh what was her name? Rosie or whatever the robot. I I mean, is it is it necess it's not necessarily a bad thing in that regard. But if the people that are controlling it are psychopaths that don't think that humanity has any value, it's a problem. If this AI is being ushered in under kind of an understanding that, you know, humans have inalienable rights, then then this could free people up. I' I've shown this quote the last couple of times from John Quincy Adams. It's like, you know, I'm a warrior so that my son might be a merchant so that his son might be a poet. Something roughly like that. you. So you you it is a mind shift, significant mind shift to go out of of

being in a state of scarcity to being in a state of abundance. In fact, to the point where it's imperceptible. It's almost hard to imagine because we've we've all in humanity's always been in a position where we are fighting over uh perceived uh uh o well over over scarcity and from a from a place of survival. But this is even kind of like how your body works. You're either in fight uh fight or flight mode or rest and digest mode. It's kind of a switch, right? In a way, you know, AI could offer us the ability to go from being in this state of fight or flight to as as humanity going into a place of rest and digest or or going from a place of

survival to a place of creation. Uh but there are a lot of ramifications with with all of this. Um, Cassandra says, "My husband wanted to set up health tourism for uh Karachi to help Karachi good doctors mostly trained in the US UK." Yeah. Yeah. I again I you know when when we put out this website I you know I'm not sure how we're going to roll it out yet but when people just I'm trying to try to visualize seeing a just a global map where you can drill in and see medical service providers all over the world and see the pricing in real time and see the reputation management system see the see the actual reputation based on customers where where you're paying

with a currency that doesn't have eight layers of middle. You will be so blown away by what that looks like. It's like what Stephen said about uh being uh in a foreign country and the stitches being done for $250. Actually, if you sit back and think about it, why does this stuff cost this much? We used to have doctors that went and treated people at their homes. And well, now if somebody if a doctor came and treated you at your home, it would cost $100,000 today. It used to not cost $100,000. What like what is it about the act? Is there anything about the actual act or what's being done? No, just the actual process of the system itself since the average doctor sees their patient for

like less than eight minutes and then the way all the billing and everything works like just it's a it would it's a revolution when you allow true market forces to be involved and you strip away the fact that we have a system that doesn't tell people what the price of things are where there's no negotiation on price and where you really don't measure quality. I mean there's there are some of these health systems but most people don't participate in these you know there's Zachdoc or something uh but but there's you know I've used the story before where I was at in 2005 at a world health congress and and the doctor was talking about how the people were too stupid to be able to rate doctors

because they you know well you know my surgery is more complicated so yeah I'm going to have a higher failure rate and who are these who are these patients to tell me whether I did a good job This is actually the attitude of people in the system. Um it completely changes everything when you go from being a patient that's that a doctor is treating with this paternalistic relationship to an individual who is looking uh who is trying to improve their health in a market-based system where they're the actual customer. It's a night and day difference. Listen, I don't think these doctors, frankly, I don't think any of these doctors should have a paternalistic relationship because

they've been indoctrinated on faulty medicine. I've said this before. I think we should actually start publicly shame, but like you use the word bullying. You'll see these things like I see these memes where you know, you know, what did you do today? Well, I I actively bullied the government. But we went through this trust the experts thing where it's like when you actually dissect what their training is, they shouldn't be trust. These are people that have been indoctrinated. the doctors are NPCs and so call them out on it. So, um I try to explain to socialists demanding more government controlled medicine, Canada, UK healthcare is even worse. Yeah. I mean, you know, again,

but now we're even the point we're talking about more government controlled because it's over 50% government controlled now and and so so people that the it's an illusion that we have um a free market in healthcare. Stephen mentioned that he has an HSA and I've said several times an HSA is a it's actually um uh it's a combination of a CBDC and a and a social credit system, right? And so it's the IRS telling you that you can put some percentage of your money at a cap on a tax-free basis onto a digital credit card that you can only spend in places that the government and the health care system have said you can spend it on. And somehow through propaganda and marketing, people have

been convinced that this is a free market solution. People say, "Oh, well, you know, yeah, look at me. I've got I I'm able to use X% of my money to to buy things on a, you know, that are whitelisted by by people that don't care about my health outcomes. Bizarre system." But yeah, Canada and the UK is is worse. Um, and you know, Canada has the maid program, but it but it's all going this way. When we do this podcast uh next Wednesday with Patrick Wood, we're going to be talking about AI and healthcare. And AI is already making claims decisions where the AI is also the the uh if you have a dispute, the AI determines the outcome of of your dispute.

There's no human involvement. Again, AI could be used in healthcare in in a variety of of interesting ways. Um, unfortunately, we we tend to not get the freedombased versions of these technologies when they're put into the existing systems. The existing systems tend to adopt new technologies in a way that protects their position. And when your position is you make money by being inefficient and getting paid by the government, it turns out that you're there's not a lot of enthusiasm about making the system better and more efficient because that that's a risk that allows new competitors. We actually have a system where states have a what's called a certificate of need. So you can't even

open a hospital unless the government decides and determines that there's enough need and that by opening the new hospital you won't jeopardize the financial stability of other hospitals. This is a ridiculous I talk about a ridiculous idea, but a lot of this stuff has been used for for purposes where, you know, I know a while back Cancer Treatment Centers of America wanted to open in New Hampshire and they use this uh they use this certificate of need to to keep them out. And so, you know, again, it's so part of it is it's complicated and no one would come up with this way, but when you explain things like this and you document how the system works, you realize how

at no point is the health care system designed to optimize the health or the financial efficiency of the consumer. And I'm going to say consumer because because we are consumers. Consumer is not even the right word. But but it should be that the power in this it's kind of like education. You get into a a discussion about education. It's like well how will this affect the teachers? How will this affect the teachers union? How will this affect the administration? The purpose of education is to educate the student. Whether or not there even needs to be a school is irrelevant. But when these negotiations happen, these stakeholders have an outsized uh seat at

the table. a and and the actual consumer or whether it's the child which is the student or the consumer that's trying to get health services, they're like not a majority part of the decision-making processes. It's the existing infrastructure that wants to protect its way of doing things. And you find this in industry after industry. That's what needs to be broken. That's the kind of thing that privacy tokenization and creating parallel systems where where third parties don't see the can't see the transactions and where layers and layers of regulators aren't involved. It's just individuals or voluntary groups of people engaging in in transactions that the world is a phenomenally different

place when that happens. And it's hard to even explain that to people because people have to understand how bad the current system is. And I don't think people would believe if you wrote down like I'll give you another example. Health insurance company. So a health insurance company. So a lot of the times they're large corporations self-insure meaning that they actually are directly on the hook for the claims for their employees. What they do is they buy stop-loss insurance. So they buy a kind of insurance that says okay um the company that provides that stop-loss insurance comes in and looks at the census of the population and says okay well it's likely that the

overall claims are only going to be within this bounds and so then they sell insurance kind of catastrophic insurance with various terms to the company well that doesn't mean that Etna or or United Healthcare or Blue Cross Blue Shield go away because most people that work for big companies they have insurance through United Healthcare, one of these big insurers. The service that the insurance company is providing is what's called administrative only. So, so they're basically just processing the paperwork and processing the claims, but they're not actually financially on the hook for this. So, they're charging an administrative fee in this role. And then the company is on the hook for a

certain amount of the claims. And then they have this this stop-loss insurance and reinsurance and everything else to cover cover the other amount. So then you go through and you look at this and it's kind of absurd that you know insurance companies are are are horrible at administration because on the part of their business that isn't this self-insured business. They make money by collecting more in premiums than they pay out in claims. And often the margins there are actually small. So where they really end up making money is the fact that they're collecting huge amounts of premiums and then they're holding the premiums. So if they delay paying out the doctor and paying out the hospital

and paying out the pharmacy, if they can drag that out, they earn interest on that money. So this is the number one source of of profit generation for a hospital is intentionally being inefficient at claims. This is why when the Luigi guy or whatever, not justifying what he did to the CEO of United Healthcare, but what but but when you see that United Healthcare actually allegedly had a policy where they would just reject a certain percentage of claims out of hand without actually looking at them. So, it's just kind of like, all right, we're going to reject this percentage and then we're going to force the patient or the doctor's office or whoever it is that that that is

responsible for negotiating that to come back to us. Why? Because that buys us time. If this dispute process takes 60 days or 90 days, then we get to hold on to that cash and earn interest on that cash for that period of time. Hey, the next thing you're gonna see is you're gonna see health insurance. you you know we're at the end of the American empire when there's a change in the law made that allows health insurance companies to own Bitcoin as part of their reserves. Now, here's the other thing. So, insurance companies, you have to hold a certain amount in reserves to show that you can actually pay out the claims. And this is all regulated at the state level. And if you don't,

they'll come in and shut you down. But if you hold too much in premiums, if you have too if your reserves are too high, states will often pass an excess reserves tax. And in some cases, I remember at one point in Massachusetts, it was either proposed or actually delivered that they tax the excess reserves at 50%. So an insurance company which has all these employees, all their business is is being inefficient at processing claims. hoarding cash and doing all of this within a narrow band of what the state insurance regulator claims is enough to hold in reserves.

And if it's too low, you go out of business and if it's too high, you're taxed at 50%. And people call that private insurance. They say that that's free market insurance. That is there's no aspect of that that's free market. That's why these comp these companies deliver no value. Their entire existence is based on wanting these government regulations that keep in place the fact that they can continue to make money by being inefficient like this. Nobody would buy a service in a true free market that was profitable by arbitrarily denying their service to their customers, requiring and forcing their customers to fight them back to get their to to actually deliver on the service of their

contract. That would not exist in a free market. And so, but again, you know, we talk about these kinds of things a lot on this show and I don't know how much time I have to break down. You can go through every industry and like look look at this. So the the the sooner we can wake people up, this is why I'm doing the own nothing thing. The the the what people have to realize is that what we have now is not what you think it is. We don't have free markets in healthcare. You don't have free speech. I mean I've done these things before about people like America's number one. Look at all of the rankings. We're not. And the point of this isn't to be demoralizing. It's that

if you're holding on to this thing because you think that it's the constitution and you think it's the founding principles, it hasn't been that your entire lifetime. So now the question is what do you want moving forward? A and you have to do a real assessment of where you are because a lot of people are trying to protect something that they don't realize is the opposite of what they think it is. And once you realize it's the opposite of what you think it is, then you have the decision to make of can you even fight it from within or do you build something else? I'm a big proponent of of not putting your energy into wasted games and building again build parallel systems. We had a great

talk with Steve here tonight about what could you create if you didn't have these rules and if you started from scratch no one would come up with what we have because it's absurd. Um yeah so they're pushing mandatory myocarditis has has some things to say. So, they're pushing to euthanize people constantly in Canada's health care system. It's getting worse now. I wrote about this in my in my book three years ago. And then it got to the point where I would do an update. So, if I I was going from talk to talk to talk, I always do, let's check in on what's going on with this this program. And it got to the point where the the medical assistance and dying is what the May

program stands for. And when you look into this, um, it got to the point, I don't even remember what the percentages are now, but it's now the leading either lead the leading or second largest cause of death in Canada is the medical medically assisted uh, the NATE program. And they kept on they kept on changing the rules. One of the rules that they changed was you used to have to wait 10 days from getting a uh prescription or whatever it is from the doctor to kind of mle it over. Well, they got rid of the waiting period. Then they changed it. And I don't know if this is actually true, but I it got it got to the point where you used to have to go to a particular kind of doctor in order

to get the prescription to kill yourself. And then I think they they kicked it down maybe to you know maybe you only need a nurse or something because this but then the criteria would change the the one of the stories that I put in the book was about a woman who uh was a quadripolgic. She had been in the military and then suffered an injury and but she became an athlete and um and you know was living a a as good a life as you can live under these circumstances. and she petitioned the government for a wheelchair ramp and the response she got back was uh sorry we can't do a wheelchair ramp but can we interest you in the maid program

and the stories like this compiled and then it got to the point where they started recommending like somebody that was in their some guy in his 20s or whatever was depressed because he couldn't get a girlfriend. So then they they offered him the maid program. There are people you can go on to YouTube and Google the maid program and find testimonials from people that uh will talk about the fact that because of COVID uh like that people couldn't feed themselves, they couldn't pay rent. And of course that Canada's had inflation problems and everything else and like if you were in Toronto or whatever um the cost of living was was already problematic. And so there were

people on there saying they were choosing the maid program because life had become so difficult because of these COVID era policies. There are a lot of people that will have a lot of different opinions on you know whether you should have a decision over ending your own life and people in terminal pain and everything else. And that that part of it is a that's a that's certainly a tricky conversation. But when your government has a monopoly on health care and then the government is is then recommending as an intervention. So you're trained as a culture to believe in these medical experts and the medical experts are then out pushing euthanasia. It's really problematic and Canada has

now become one of the largest providers of uh organ donation in the world as a result of this program. So it's become a profitable program. So, I mean, I remember in the 80s, people always people were joking about the Canadian system and about rationing. And I lived in Indiana and my my uh grandparents or whatever were in Michigan, which was borders Canada. And so, this was always something that people would talk about was people would talk about the rationing, the coming rationing of health care. But even then, people weren't talking about even when people were painting the Canadian singlepayer system in in a negative light, nobody conceived of the horrors of the maid program. And so when

I was researching the book, I researched, you know, what's going on with that? Is the UN involved? And is this a trend? Is this one of these things where, okay, well, if we can make this acceptable, you can watch on YouTube some of the commercials for the maid program and the way that they're trying to pitch it, the way that they're trying to market it. I get actually, you should watch it. It's horrifying. And, you know, you might have a hard time sleeping when you watch it. But the first chapter in my book, I paint I paint this picture of what the world might look like in 2030. And like, you know, you read it. not the like the best written science fiction in the

world, but it does get the point. I made up this fictitious family where you know they live in a it's like 2030 or 2032 or whatever and they're living in in uh like New York or whatever but this is under one world government and there's a family social credit score and so where the actions of one family member affect the credit score of the whole family and based on the collective score that determines your housing and everything else. So there's like this this series of of calamities that happen. Um, and it seems like it's farfetched, but everything that I put in this fictional book was based on a program that actually existed. So, in this book, I had the the father who

decided that uh to do the the equivalent of the maid program and to take an experimental treatment to end his life because it would boost his family's social credit score higher. And, you know, I put all together the stuff, but but when I was putting this together, people read this. like the second chapter of the book says everything that you've just read in this chapter exists. So the youth in Asia programs not in the packaging but um three years ago almost nobody knew about the bid program certainly not in the United States it was not very popular and people were like horrified to think about this. So then I'm like okay well once you understand this is connected to this

with the UN then you look at how these things are all tied together then you start to understand technocracy. One thing that's alarming, we've talked about social credit systems and excuse me and digital IDs, but what I have found when I was doing my research on CBDC's is you will find that there are interesting countries that that pilot things where you're like, why is this being piloted in this country first? So, for instance, Nigeria was one of the first countries to implement a CBDC. And you might scratch your head and say, well, okay, do some research. less than half of the people in Nigeria even have an internet connection. So why is that a place? And I was on an Xpace and I've

talked to people in Nigeria when it was going on and people said to me, "Look, why is this happening? Our government like nobody voted for this. Nobody even understands what this is about." And then you research it, okay? It's the World Bank and it's the IMF that go into developing nations and they and they basically dangle well they use the carrot or the stick depending on whether the country is already dependent on aid or needs aid. They use that as a carrot or a stick to try to implement something like this. And the reason the World Bank and the IMF do something like this is they their their premise is if we can figure out how to make because they're looking at trying to roll out a global

system. If you're trying to roll out a global system, you need to figure out what are the edge cases? What are the challenging things? How do we deal with people that don't have internet access? How do we deal with people that are in this situation? So, this is why some of these CBDC pilots are in in challenging environments. And so then people will say, well, you know, the people in Nigeria fought back and they went to the streets and yes, it's true. They were burning ATMs and everything. And not only were they burning ATMs, but the the uh the their head of the central bank was arrested for fraud and corruption in the middle of all this. But it didn't stop there. C they're

still moving forward CBDC. That was just a glitch. What people don't understand is when these global organizations implement things, they don't assume 100% success. Everything that they try is a learning opportunity for a a larger global rollout. So our side will sit there and say, "See, we defeated the globalist, they fought back, or see they didn't pass COVID here." You think that their models assumed 100% success? No, they collected data. They implemented contact tracing. They got rid of the um fractional reserve requirement for banks. They implemented surveillance. So, we're sitting here saying, "Well, they didn't win. We got them on this one." The next time they try another

thing, they've already got the surveillance that they put in. But when I go back to digital IDs, the worst digital ID program that's being rolled out is in Thailand. In Thailand, your digital ID is tied to your SIM card, meaning they can actually track you in real time for like pro, you know, kind of proof of life. You can't get a burner phone anymore. The only way you can get a SIM card and have a cell phone in Thailand is if it's tied to your digital ID. So now you already have to you get use a digital ID to get a bank account. And now they've ratcheted it up to tie that to your to your cell phone. And so, okay, well, what does that say to me? What that says to me is that's what the

end system looks like. So if you want to know what the final when once you realize that they're looking at a global integrated system, this is why you have 17 countries that use the same three vendors. This is a global system. Everything that they develop is interoperable. So all of these things work together. This is why now if you're a US citizen and you travel to Europe, you have to uh you do biometric scans and everything else. what they're building is global and it's been designed centrally. So if you think that that's not the case, I encourage you to research it. I have researched it. I've researched it for my book and I and I continue to research these things. This

is absolutely moving in this way. But don't think that we win just because they have a pilot that that doesn't look like it worked because they understand that you have to do trial and error and that you have to do multiple iterations. It's kind of like people who think that we defeated ESG, which was the big environmental thing, right, with with carbon credits. People actually believe to this day that that was defeated and that the globalists were defeated on that. They weren't defeated on that at all. Larry Frink is now the co-chair of the WEF, the World Economic Forum, and they are pushing energy credits. As I said earlier today, Elon Musk and Jack Dorsey are actively

promoting the idea that Bitcoin is good because it has intrinsic value because it's expensive to mine. They are advocating and pushing for an energy creditbased system. This is the heart of technocracy. This is the control system of technocracy is an energy creditbased digital currency. And this is what Bitcoin has transformed into, I would argue, as a as probably the the potential basis for a token that's that's backed by Bitcoin. This is technocracy. So this is not what freedom lovers thought it was or what we wanted it to be, but this is the reality of what it is now. And it's important that that people understand that. So totally corrupt,

they engineer the problem, then then do that. Yeah, this is I mean this is what's going on. So the maid program. So my book I you know I wasn't I'm really trying to push the book. I'm working on another book. I just updated that book. You can actually read the first chapter of my book for free. The the dystopian tale. It's at the brownstone uh.org was it was my first uh my first article there. And you know I haven't read it for a while. I you know I should go back and but as I think about the way that I had it structured a lot of that stuff has already already come true. was supposed to be uh you know kind of a nightmare and a lot of these things um it turns out have already been

implemented. So the digital IDs and all these things are happening faster um than we think and again the solution so so people say we should fight it but you know like fight it by voting or whatever you have to build parallels because once you realize how the existing systems work like we've talked about tonight with healthcare and everything and once you realize that they're broken and that we're not going to rewind we're not rewinding back to the constitution that's not even possible based on how things are broken. You can't have a society where 50% of the people get their health care from the government and where over a third of the people are dependent on the government and think

you're going back to restoring individual rights. We've become a welfare state and there are no historical examples of transitioning a welfare state to a non-welfare state. You things collapse. Okay, but things collapsing isn't bad. It's, you know, there's kind of an element of creative destruction there, but we're not going back to that. So, I put the link to the Brownstone article and um, you know, hope you take a look. I'll I'll I'll revisit that, but but you know, it was pretty it was horrifying to write. It was horrifying to research. And this is where in writing this uh in writing this this piece I then um

looked into you know again the the there's the fiction part and then the second chapter is well all of this stuff is actually true. That's where I really started digging deep into the trilateral commission. That's where I found out about Patrick Wood's work. That's where I reached out to him about the trilateral commission. And I'll tell you this, once you learn it, you can't unlearn it. This is why I'm so adamant about technocracy. This is why I encourage everybody to learn about this because your world will make more sense once you understand what's motivating. And it's not and it's actually not that hard to understand. It's not I mean it is a conspiracy. It is absolutely a

conspiracy, but it's a conspiracy to implement a technocracy as a form of government. It's not it's not a mystical thing. It's a it's a completely understandable thing once you understand how they work and who's behind it. And then you can start to predict things. Then things make more sense. Then things stop being, oh well, you know, it was Fouchy and it was a few bad apples and this was, you know, and now that these guys are gone, everything's back to normal. No. Then you realize public health has been kind of a death cult from the beginning. And there's much more to this structurally. We didn't solve anything by simply getting rid of Fouchy. In fact, what we've done, and

I've stated this that with the medical freedom community has been duped and their hope has been weaponized against them. The changes that they think they have in COVID, uh, they think that they've gotten a victory, but at the same time, behind the scenes, they're implementing AI healthcare and putting in a complete the complete absence and an and opposite of medical freedom is is a medical freedom system where everything is centrally controlled. um and and and where it's monitored by the government. I mean, even RFK coming out and talking about potentially mandating wearables, that is I that is not medical freedom. That medical freedom is you have the choice to decide

what your health care is and not by the way within three manufactured choices as determined by the government and health insurance companies and big pharma. That's not medical freedom. That is a fake illusion of choice. Now, by the way, we had Courtney uh turn around here and she she brought up an interesting point about the school choice movement. The school choice movement isn't actually about freedom, education freedom either. It's actually about pushing technocracy because what you end up with is a selection of manufactured choices that are that are effectively you end up regulating uh because you end up putting in requirements. And so what you end up

doing is regulating private options. And so you end up with kind of like we end up with healthcare where you have this illusion of choice. Oh, I have choice. I can pick from column A, column B or column C. And you dig into it and all all three of those columns are different flavors of technocracy. Um I've argued this and and people get very upset with me about the fact that you know again that's not that's not school choice. school choices. You get to decide whatever you want for the educational choices for your for your children. Not determined by a board, not determined by local politicians, literally anything. Uh not religious mandates over here or that has to fit into this curriculum

guideline. I mean, so there that's education freedom is is that you decide as the parent what the educational choices are. Medical freedom is you decide what you put in your body and what your interventions are. Not as determined by your HSA, your HMO, Medicare, Medicaid. None of that has anything to do with medical freedom. And so the way to fight back all of this is to recognize we don't ask for permission or for forgiveness. We take our own free will back. We take our own decision-making back in all things in health care and everything else and and in education. And so by simply saying no, by simply saying I'm not going to participate. Look, this is what I do. We

talked about this earlier and Stephen asked what do you do for medical care. I haven't been to a doctor in 10 years. I have no interest in using it. Doesn't mean I won't have to. Right? If if I break an arm or I get into a car accident or something, I have no choice but to use their system because no one else is allowed to actually operate something. But it turns out that you know 80% of health care costs are um chronic conditions and those chronic conditions are usually brought about as a result of following public health guidelines. So if you follow the USDA food pyramid you're going to end up with diabetes. If you follow their guidelines, if you take their vaccines

and you take their other things, you're going to have lo and behold these other things. So, so if you avoid their prescriptions, you can probably their original prescriptions for prevention, then you're probably not going to need a lot of their chronic care. That doesn't mean things aren't going to come up. This is why we need to create practitionerbased systems, medical tourism, all of these things. There are options for all of it. and and I hope um in the months to come we can demonstrate some of this so that other people are inspired to create and that there's a there's real innovation here and we're empowering people once you say to yourself hey I'm actually in control of

my own health. One of the things that drives me is ask your doctor if this is right for you. Why do we assume that a doctor needs to be the quarterback in my health care decisions? Why? Why is a doctor given that no there the doctor there? Don't sc There's no scapegoat. Don't allow the doctor to be the scapegoat. Make your own decisions. And there's enough information. I'll tell you what, Mike Adams AI has probably done more for empowering individual health than anything else I've seen in in a long time because now here's the ability. I'm not saying rely on it 100% or that there aren't any errors even in maybe how the training worked or whatever, but now you there's

no excuse. You have the ability now to use the self-custody AI that that has been trained on healthcare information that has been unavailable to us through WebMD, Google search, any of the other mainstream AIs. And by the way, um here's a wakeup call. your doctors never learned any of it either. We talked earlier about fasting. So, I I looked this up when I was doing the fast. You could see like I don't know probably 20 episodes or so ago what I don't even know how loopy I was. I should watch these when I was in the middle of the fast. But, um the medical school curriculum has zero education on fasting. The only sliver of where you may get

something on fasting is related to you should fast 24 hours before having a medical procedure or whatever. So, whatever the time window is, that's the only part fasting is is discussed. Absolutely nothing in there. Three-day fast, 7-day fast, 10day fast, all of the information that's been collected for years. In fact, people have been fasting for forever. N not that's not part of the medical curriculum. And then I believe that the average doctor gets something like 20 to 25 hours total of nutrition education. So when somebody says consult your doctor first, what would your doctor your doctor doesn't even know, hasn't even studied the impact of of diet in a

fundamental way on health. Your doctor hasn't been introduced to fasting because why? There's no money in fasting. And the whole real Rockefeller medicine as mandatory myocarditis is saying in the com in the comments is is is based around treating every condition is is some an isolated thing that you either give a pharmaceutical to or use a device on. There's no there's no opening. There's no part of the medical system that allows for the idea of the absence of food or the absence of something as a potential cure because they're not looking for it. That's not their intent. So, don't ask your doctor if something might be right for you. Ask yourself

after doing your own research and exercising your own judgment what's right for you. And if you want a doctor to be part of that consultation, do it. But I advise you to, you know, use your own do research on your doctor. So in other words, why should I? So my, you know, my position now is why would I listen to I by default I wouldn't listen to a doctor. You would have to, which isn't to say I wouldn't listen to any doctor, but the default case on the the NPCs that get churned through medical school, I would not listen to. Now there are some, and a lot of people that get into these fields have good intentions. There are some people that got into it and then realized it's BS and then broke

away or whatever. And so some of these people that have knowledge or whatever, but but I'm a don't trust and then verify on that. And I certainly would not assume trust my doctor first. And there are all kinds of other things, you know, we we only scratched the surface and I don't even know how to roll this out part of a marketplace or whatever, but there there's so many different things going on now, different approaches. is there's a whole area around peptides um and and other interventions, but you know, generally if the FDA approves it, it's probably bad for you. Uh I and I think this is just a matter of of understanding incentives and the influence of of the lobby. I mean, it's

a cartel. They don't want anything that's that's a cure. I mean, just remember in in the entire lifetime of Fizer, they've never cured any disease. There's no money in it. And these are the people that fund the FDA. So, so like normalize laughing at something being FDA approved thinking that it's something that's good for your health. That's not how it's structured. So, these incentives are not structured right. Again, a lot of this is hard to I like this is part of like why I like doing these podcast. I didn't do this format tonight. And a lot of these I do a lot of research and then I put together slides because I spend a lot of time trying to refine how to take

complex information and and try to I don't always succeed but put it in in visual form or whatever that that can make some of these complicated ideas easy. And a lot of these ideas, it's not that they're complicated. They're intentionally obfuscated. They they're they're in fields that intentionally use their own special madeup language and everything else to sort of create their own little club that no one else can be in. But when you look at it at the end, when you understand what it actually is, it's like that's not complicated. That's just bullshit. Designed to confuse people into buying something that's bad for them. That's not like complicated in the sense of, oh, you're too you're too

stupid to understand it. It's it's a scam. And so I like to try to demystify that and there's a lot of work to do in this health care space. Um and you know again I hope once people realize it that the key for me is if people realize it if you realize how bad it is then you you'll stop trying to defend it and protect it. But then more importantly, it liberates your energy so that you can create. Once you finally say, "Okay, you know, for your ego, fear, whatever that, you know, I'm not going to put any any more of that into this system, you will literally get a jolt of energy and you will be able to just new things open up to you that that you've never thought

about before. You realize, oh, I thought this way because yes, this is what I was told. This is who told me this and everything. I bought into that whole paradigm." Once you don't have that paradigm anymore, then you can actually start thinking about things differently. And then then it's amazing. So many people get trapped into thinking they don't have any choice at all. I take this if I don't take this vaccine, I won't be able to feed my family. Well, you know, actually, every time you see an inspirational story, it's where somebody hit the wall or whatever and then and then just thought about things a different way and realize, hey, I don't even have to do that at all. There

there there's unlimited options out there. I just could only think that I only thought that what was possible was in this narrowly defined window that society has engineered for me. But but there's always a way out. They want chemicals they can patent to stifle disparage natural medicine. That's true. That's another comment um from mandatory myocardis. And there's something that to put on the horizon related to this is that the the new trend in Silicon Valley which is they're getting into psychedelics and and I I'm actually I I'm not against I mean I think um psilocybin is actually very effective. I and I think like Iawaska is is also

under the right circumstances. I said these things are are are truly lifechanging. But when Silicon Valley gets into it and they start modifying chemicals, I I saw on the Danny Jones podcast interview, I can't remember the name of the guy and and he was talking about the fact that what they're doing in Silicon Valley is yes, now they're getting into psychedelics, but but Silicon Valley getting into psychedelics means something different. One, it means they're going to modify the psychedelics so that they're patentable. But along with that, they're getting involved in the construction of religions. And I'm not even making this up yet. watch the the just probably search for Danny Jones

and psychedelics or whatever. Um they're getting involved in this. There's something called the Elin Institute in uh California, I believe in San Francisco that has been a place where it's kind of they had like retreats. They've done yoga. They've done a lot of, you know, experimentation with different things, LSD and all these other things. And a lot of Silicon Valley executives go there. But it's it's turned into and morphed into something that's even tied into Burning Man. So Burning Man is kind of a cult. It's kind of a manu they're trying to manufacture a a new religion. And and they're they're using a lot of techniques. I don't know how weird weird I want to

get into this if it's late. I don't know how many people are even left. Listen, but um I mean you can reprogram your subconscious. You can get into an alpha wave brain state, theta wave brain state and and you can reverse some of the programming that you already have that you got, you know, before you were seven or when you're like watching TV and you're not you're kind of in a different brain wave state and stuff just kind of goes in not regulated by your consciousness. Well, these this Elon Institute has been very powerful in terms of trying to instill a particular type of of ide religious spiritual ideology that is also tied to Burning Man. And so this whole Burning Man thing is is kind of

manufactured. Uh Patrick Wood talks about this I believe in his latest book. Some very interesting stuff in there. But um you know psychedelics I think are are interesting. I I think Silicon Valley getting involved in psychedelics in manufacturing religion is not well it's interesting but not in a in a good way. And this you know whatever I I don't know if anybody's left but you we could have a whole one on um on you know the trans movement and what's behind that because it's manufactured. I actually started to play the game of all right, who makes money off of this and who's pushing the this gender issue and then how are they doing it? And that once you reveal that that tells you something.

This isn't about people making a choice. This is about a manufactured choice through psychologists, psychiatrists, um, heavily backed by and funded by nonprofits and big pharma. It's completely and totally engineered, but a lot of it is being engineered as part of the transhumanist agenda. Now, transhumanism is a different topic. Like, you know, we talked about this with Courtney Turner. Well, what is the cut off point? What is the cut off point between, you know, wearing hearing aids or having a stent and an outright transhumanism, right? Ray Kerszswe talked this week about or last week about uh you know eventually nanobots, you know, being inserted into our bodies

that then go in and access our brain and connect us to to a global cloud or whatever. I mean, there's a whole what's the spectrum here? What's the determination on this? And a lot of this comes back to what is the nature of life? What is the nature of consciousness? Those are conversations I think that we need to have because they will impact uh how a lot of this technology is is implement. But uh anyway, that's probably for another day. I don't know if anyone's still on, if anyone has any any other comments. If not, it's uh it's been a good good podcast. We're up to 4,000 people. I appreciate everyone that uh that came on. I know the Q&A got a little slow rolling, but um but I will

say, you know, congratulations to to Roger Beer. is a this is a big victory. It's a it's a rare it's a rare victory, but it's it's but it's just the start. You know, we got one of our guys back, but but the the real work still remains ahead. So, celebrate today, but I guess let's get back at it tomorrow and understand we have parallel systems that we can build. We have the technology now. It's just a matter of reclaiming our free will and and doing it. And uh we can and that's that's what I'm spending 100% of my time on. So, thank you everyone for joining and uh we'll be back on Monday. >> Thanks a lot, Aaron. >> Yep. Have a good night. >> Good night.

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