EXPOSED: 2008 Was Just Practice Run

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Welcome back to the Aaron Day Show. This is season two, episode forty nine. And the topic tonight is, I think, a very important one. We're going to have special guest Craig Wankowitz on again, who has been on several times. He's an expert in the financial realm, as well as really studying the financial markets from a perspective of harmonics and then also looking at it through a technocratic lens. So I thought he would be a great person to have come on and talk about tonight's topic, which is that essentially, you know, the two thousand and eight financial crisis was was a practice run. So we'll get into what what all of that means, but kind of compare where the economy was

right before the two thousand eight and eight collapse versus where we are today. And then we kind of revisiting what happened coming out of the collapse, the consolidation of power, the bailouts and everything else and what's likely coming. This time around, we're also going to discuss this question that keeps coming up. A lot of people are taking this approach that AI is going to cause the financial collapse. We're going to discuss that. My view, and we'll see what Craig's view is on because he and I haven't had a chance this, to talk about it in great detail. But my view is that if it weren't for AI, we would have already collapsed. And that the only reason the economy has

been hanging on is because of AI. That doesn't mean that there's not a bubble in AI. I think there's going to be a collapse regardless, but I think interestingly, a lot of people are going to blame AI for it. But the question is, what would have possibly stopped it? If you look at all the economic indicators prior to AI, we were falling off of a cliff anyway. So in any event, we're going to discuss that as well. Before we do that, I want to touch on the last few episodes. I really encourage you to watch The last episode, episode forty eight, which was the beta release of OSR, which is the medical tourism marketplace that my wife and I are launching. But it's more than a medical tourism

marketplace. It's phase one of building an alternative system for health care altogether. And what we're kind of going to be promoting at launch, which we're going to launch officially on January one, along with New Year's resolutions. are three kind of activism campaigns. One, promoting and trying to get people to pledge to create a medical trust. And the reason that this is important, I mean, we're not lawyers, we're not selling legal services. The reason this is important is that one person every minute in the United States files for medical or for bankruptcy. And two thirds of those are related to medical debt. And seventy five percent of those actually

have insurance seventy seven percent of those actually own homes so it's this is not a question of people without insurance going broke because of medical bills it's largely insured people because the system is a scam and it's structured to be a scam so the first campaign for next year is going to be starting you know getting people to form a medical trust so that your assets don't end up getting owned by hospitals big pharma and banks so The second part of it is pushing for people to, once you have a medical trust, exit the health care system, exit insurance, which is a scam. And the third point is to look at and use medical tourism, which is about eighty percent less

expensive with better health outcomes if you shop properly. That's only the beginning of the alternative medical system. That's just a replacement for getting ripped off with poor medical care. The next couple of phases after that are all about helping to empower people to take care of their own health and not even require these outside services with tools and AI and so forth that allow you to analyze your own health, protect your own data. And then the third phase is going to be allowing people to collaborate and interact with one another to solve their health care problems. So in other words, all of this is about you are at the center improving your own health with

your own data and your own information, collaborating with others, and then getting out of the existing system and using alternatives. So I'm very excited about this. I think this is one of the best ways we can fight technocracy. The episode before that we talked about, we had a key Manwar on from above. And I've said I got this today in I haven't had a chance to set it the mail, up. This is my D Google phone. This is my D Google above phone, which next year, we're going to be launching a daylight version, which will come with Zeno and VP dotnet and Mike Adams, AI on it. So the idea here is to help onboard people, if people could just get a device that

was de-googled and had a bunch of privacy apps on it out of the gate, I think that might actually speed the So I'm very excited to get this set process up. up and to play around with it. And I think Hakeem is a great guy who's big in the, I don't even know if I want to call it movement, but in the movement of exit and build movement. And so his heart is in the right and I think his build is a great place, offering. uh more on that to come and then the episode before that was about epstein and the bitcoin coup which uh we've tied into the technocracy atlas and i think it's a really important point that still goes on discussed all of the hysteria now

around cryptos around bitcoin and most people don't know the story of bitcoin They don't know Bitcoin was hijacked. This is largely been a function of the fact that there's been a lot of propaganda and censorship around it. It's only compounded now that the hijacked version of Bitcoin is in the hands of traditional finance and the banks. I don't know if you saw this today, but President Trump unleashed his new technology agenda for the United States, and it didn't even include crypto. The other news around that is today, I guess the big banks, maybe the big four, Citi, JPMorgan Chase, Wells Fargo, and whichever, Bank of America are going to meet with

the Senate or something tomorrow. So I think the fix is that somebody's saying the audio could be better. Is that better? everything almost turned up to max in here hopefully that's a little bit better in any event that season i do want to say i think on thursday we'll find out i haven't decided yet i'm definitely going to be doing a couple of episodes on confidential layer coming up confidential layer is a a new technology it's its own blockchain that allows you to bridge your transparent Bitcoin, Ethereum, BNB and other cryptocurrencies into Zeno,

making those assets private and spendable. So I'm going to be doing a lot of content on that because they're doing a big launch on, I believe, December the tenth. But there are some big integrations that have now been completed with Edge Wallet and Bitcoin.com Wallet. So it's now easier to use and easier to spend. I may do part one on Thursday and then there'll be a part two after, but I do want to play a really short video that was just released about Confidential Air. This was just released last week. We have achieved something unprecedented, a unified ideology, a world built on the pure, incorruptible foundation of Bitcoin, the money of the future.

It is destiny, one cause, one resolve, the Bitcoin standard. Those who resist, who cling to shadow systems and contradictory truths, shall be silenced by the unstoppable engine of adoption. The Bitcoin standard is perfect. It is the future. We will prevail. July, twenty twenty five. Confidential layer went live, allowing Bitcoin and Ethereum users to bridge their coins onto a completely private by default protocol, giving power back to the people. whether traditional finance likes it or not bitcoin is now private so i thought that was a great great video great nod

back to uh also coming up i'm gonna have mike adams on again i chat with him a little bit today i hope you've checked out his books.brightlearn.com he's just upgraded his book creation engine And actually, I've just published today Xeno Unveiled, which, as far as I know, is the first book ever about Xeno. So I published it, haven't read it yet, so I could probably kind of do a double check on it. But I think I've now authored five books through this platform. the way that it works is you just And again, enter a prompt up to like seventy five hundred characters and it generates a book and it generates a book on this massive data set that might has a petabyte plus of data.

And it not only creates the book, but it actually sources the material directly, direct references from the data that he's collected, the primary source information. And he's been collecting data that is not the Reddit and general web that the rest of the models work on, but he's been going to real sources of Somebody's saying, I don't know why. truth. I don't understand. All right, hold on. There shouldn't be a problem with the Let me see if there's any conflicting audio. thing here on my computer. This is the normal setup.

It sounds like I'm in a tunnel. I think I have it turned up too loud now, actually. Is it any better now? I think I turned it up too much. If I turn up the sensitivity too much, it actually picks up all of the noise. And unfortunately, so, you know, live in new hampshire and they upgraded well so-called upgraded to heat because we're in a place it sounds like a slight echo yeah all right i mean well i think that it might it might sound like that because of our of our heat it actually sounds like an aircraft carrier in here when the heat turns on which someone is coming to to fix that in any event Back to Mike's AI, the prompt is up to seventy five hundred

It generates a full book in a pretty characters. quick period of time. You can either read it online, you can download it. In some cases, there are audio books. there's something wrong in the background. Yeah, And unfortunately, I can't turn it off because I'll freeze to death, although we might turn it off for a little while. It's not a great situation. Not one of my favorite things here about New Hampshire is the winter. In any event, I'm going to have Mike back on, and we're going to do kind of a year-end wrap-up, because I've been working on a lot of things, AI-related as well, of course, which I've demonstrated some of, but actually I've probably done more work

in the last week than the previous month, and haven't had a chance to show people that work yet. heat your room with Zeno miners. I would, you know, actually the problem is I'm in this weird situation where the electricity is such that it's easy to overload and short things. So I actually can't do mining here. So it's this great situation of the heat is really loud. We actually had a situation where space heaters, if two people had space heaters on at the same time, that would blow the circuit. So we've got a little video game going on here. Is that any better? I turned the heat off, I think. Did you turn it off? right uh my wife turned off the heat is this better now so we'll detect if

that's the problem too because the heat that was generate heater that was generating all of the background noise so anyway all good on sound okay all right well that answers that um so i'm gonna have to put on some more layers of clothes at some point to a slight break through the middle of this podcast which is fine so that's a good thing uh that instead of having to do cryo, I guess this is this is my way of doing this. But Mike's gonna come on and share what he's doing. And then maybe we'll make some predictions about AI for twenty, twenty six. So with that, I will bring on Craig. We'll see what new audio challenges we can add into the next year. And I love that, Aaron. Hey, how are you?

How are you? Good. I'm doing well. How's the sound look on your end? Sound good? Sounds good. I'm not getting the echo thing. I can hear you without an echo. Volume's okay? Good. Are you going to turn it down a little or turn it up? It's fine for me. Anybody out there? How does Craig sound to you guys? Are you guys having any issues hearing Craig? Well, we haven't seen anything yet. I'm sure people will chime in. So I think that we've detected the problem here. I'll have to figure out what that is. We might not be able to do as long a thing this time. And by the way, it's amazing that this episode even happened.

I've been working on all completely automating the podcast. So I've been building a whole bunch of things to automate all aspects of this. And it was really slow going. So like two hours before this, we didn't have any visuals or anything. And I'm sitting here like, Oh, I don't even know if this podcast is going to happen. So we do have some slides to go All I will say, through. they may not be accurate. I actually had to go through and like run a batch. So we'll see, we'll see what happens with these, but at least we know what we're talking So we don't really need any of the about. visuals anyway, but in any event, All right. So we wanted to talk tonight about kind

of in a way that, you know, two thousand and eight was essentially kind of a practice run for where we are now. How do you what do you want to I don't know. say at the intro on this? Yeah, I think the one thing, you know, that the one thing that steps out for me, Aaron, is the it seems we're in a spot where it seems to be all about extending out the terms of the people. You know, less ownership for us, extending out the terms of car loans, extending out the terms of home loans, extending out credit cards, you know, all these different things that we're going to talk about tonight, extending all that out on our end. But I think what's going to happen is that they're going to push for.

you know with with stable coins with these different things instantaneous payment back to them taxation at site tax so it's going to just flip everything around from the people to the technocracy to the government because they're they're strapped right there's so much government debt you look at the uk for instance you know i've been watching the uk and japan and France and, you know, just not being stuck only on the U.S. And UK is in this balancing point where really the chancellor of the exchequer, Rachel Reeves, is in this spot where it's like, OK, how do we screw the people the least the most amount without causing uprisings? That's really the balance point that it seems like they're in.

And it's about taking away social programs and trying to meet the budget requirements that they've set for themselves. And so what usually happens when all this stuff happens, they're going to need to reset the board somehow, you know, and it's either going to be through war or it's going to be through cyber attack So those are the big things I think or something like that. to open up with that stand out to Yeah, I mean, me. I think that the two thousand and eight was kind of contrived. A lot of things happened. I didn't put a slide in here about this, I guess. it wasn't part of the two thousand and eight, although it was made worse. we've talked a lot about the great taking You know,

and the fact that since nineteen ninety four in all fifty states, there were changes to the law that essentially make it so that if there's a big crisis like we had in two thousand eight, you might think that, you know, let's say your broker goes out of business, your broker, where you're managing your four one K and your ETF, you might think, well, hey, if my broker goes out of business, Those stocks will just revert to me. Financial instruments will revert to me. And it turns out legally, they will not revert to you. They will go first to the creditor, your broker's creditor, which in most cases are the biggest four In fact, banks. there are even the special carve outs for

the big four banks, kind of in this category of too big which is part of what happened in two to fail, thousand and eight. So I actually think that people are set up. I guess my thesis on all of this is I think they've known for a long time that the party is over. They keep kicking the can. But I think what's stopping it from going over the cliff is they want to get in place the alternative. And I think that the alternative is technocracy. The alternative is UBI. If you look at what I put out a lot of posts, I put out a set of posts over the weekend, you know, basically saying anybody that buys everything that Elon Musk is saying is a anything, grok sucker. But a whole bunch of memes kind of

related to that concept. But I put information in there about those memes. He's pushing UBI. He's pushing energy credits. He's pushing merging with technology. He's actually priming people for this. And now this information is getting popular. This whole UBI concept has been popularized. Coinbase is doing a pilot in New York. You have, I would argue, this Michael Dell giving two hundred and fifty dollars to anyone under age of ten is is a prelude to UBI they're getting us warmed up to this concept even must keep time putting out these things well in twenty years people aren't gonna have to work um there are some serious issues I mean you know again AI is here whether you like it or

not um it's going to displace a lot of jobs it may create opportunities you know again there's really not a potential to have a position of we just shouldn't have AI because you actually can't stop If you tried to regulate it within a the entire country would be decimated country, because of the productivity gains elsewhere. It's just impossible to reduce that. And so the question is, when we're in this next emergency, knowing your financial instruments and everything that you own, which is part of why I like to talk a lot about the own nothing site and these click wrap agreements and everything else. We've already given away our legal ownership. Most people just don't realize it.

And so when this collapse happens, they're going to be able to entice people in an emergency with UBI and a whole bunch of these other things. And we'll touch on that, but I think they've been integrating that. But I have a few slides here where I wanted to just talk about a comparison between where we are today and where we were like right around two thousand and eight. So put this into perspective. So in two thousand and eight, the total amount of debt was when you combine government, corporate and household debt. OK, all of those things was fifty two trillion dollars in two thousand and eight. That was three hundred and fifty percent of GDP. Fast forward to now,

we have a hundred and one trillion dollars worth of debt in those three categories, which is three hundred and seventy percent of GDP. And then look at just government debt alone. Government debt was only at ten trillion dollars in two thousand eight. I remember complaining about it. I remember when it crossed the end of the double digit trillions. People are like, oh, my God, this is unbelievable. This is out of control. Well, it's up three point six times that. just in the last, you know, sixteen, seventeen years. It's now thirty actually thirty eight trillion, almost thirty nine, Yeah. almost thirty nine. So so the way so if you look at the financial crisis that we had in

two thousand eight, we solved the debt crisis by adding more debt. We really haven't fixed. We fixed nothing since two thousand eight. I guess that's one of the things that I would argue as we go through this is we actually didn't improve any underlying structural aspect of the economy we are very much the same or worse in almost all categories there are a few where it's not worse but in most categories even when you start looking at delinquencies things are actually worse off what are your thoughts on that yeah i think that's true the um you know the Back then, if we would have let things fail, instead of calling things too big to fail, we probably were small enough that we

could have reset the thing on the behalf of the people. Now we're at the point where we can't really reset it like we could have then. The whole ballgame's changed. we could have probably taken that hit and Back then, recovered from it. because our gdp was at the time i forget what our gdp was at the time and then aaron but i'd i'd say we were what eighty percent eighty debt to gdp maybe something like that so again you know we've only increased our debt to gdp so it's you know when we go to this what are we at thirty i think we're thirty thirty two trillion in gdp and now we're pushing thirty nine to forty trillion we'll be at forty trillion before you know springtime for sure and um

probably by the end of the year And you know, that's just some algorithm. I don't know what the real numbers are. I don't know how we really calibrate that and check it against the treasury. But they don't seem to deny it. It might actually be way worse than that. It might not be the low end of things. Yeah. so I wanted to drill into some of Well, these individual categories. So let's look at consumer debt. So consumer debt just hit, actually, I should probably get a more up-to-date but from the data that I pulled from, version of this, we were at, um, seventeen point nine trillion dollars in consumer debt.

Credit card debt alone crossed one point two trillion for the first time in history. So in two thousand and eight, you know, people have mortgage debt and they're, but now they're drowning in everything else and still have some mortgage debt. So The household debt in two thousand and eight was only twelve point seven trillion. That was the peak before the crash. This was the peak amount of household debt before the two thousand and eight crash was twelve point seven trillion dollars. It's now forty one percent higher than that. It's now seventeen point nine trillion. So to put that in perspective, credit card debt. And I know these are a little out of date because the two twenty twenty four

but total credit card debt was eight numbers here, hundred sixty six billion dollars at the peak before the last collapse. It's now one point two trillion dollars and rising auto loans, eight hundred billion dollars. Remember, we had a we had a bailout of We had an auto czar. the auto industry. I remember that whole circus. Right. So we had eight hundred billion dollars in auto loans in two thousand and eight. It's doubled. It's doubled to one point six, four trillion dollars. And now it's kind of like Craig said, you know, what's going on with people probably saw that Trump proposed this fifty year mortgage. But but what's going on with car loans and the extension of terms?

I've seen these these like tick tock videos where people are paying just outrageous amounts of money, where the interest rate and it extended the duration and everything else. It's just it's getting out of hand. They're kicking the can by extending the duration of these loans. So, Craig, I don't know if you have anything on those categories. Well, you know, we're talking about a quickly depreciating asset, you know, so you get a car depreciates, what, thirty percent within a week or two after twenty, you drive it off the lot. And then if, you know, if it's a good quality car that, you know, that has good resale value, maybe it kind of steadies out there.

But after an eight year term like that, you know, again, assuming that people are driving fifteen thousand miles, you know, you're at one hundred twenty thousand Now, miles. a lot of cars will go to three hundred thousand miles, but then you get into maintenance costs. So if you really look at all the curves that are involved in that, you know, you're going to buy a car. You don't have it paid off for eighty four months. You're riding the depreciation curve, so it's going down in value. And by the time you get even close to getting it paid off, even if you're going to hang on to it, you're replacing tires and brakes and all the stuff that's going to break. And the electronics in a lot of the

cars aren't all that great. So you're really right. There's a lot more going on under the surface that continues to steal from the people. other than just you know the fact that your monthly payment right and when you go in to buy a car salesmen are very crafty you know they go in there and they say what kind of monthly payment would you like instead of here's the cost of the car right a lot of people just aren't informed on the curve that they're going to ride when they purchase a car so when you stretch it out eighty four months it's a lot worse than just another twelve months it really does it steals wealth it really does steal wealth for a long period of time from people Yeah,

because you end up paying more in interest than you actually pay for the car itself over the term of the loan. And actually, I'm looking at this now. The average loan for a car now is sixty nine months. So that's now the average, which is way up from from two thousand and eight. And when you look at the interest rates, the interest rates are down a little bit overall, but they're they're higher for for used cars. And more importantly, the average loan amount is higher now. It's now forty two thousand dollars is the average loan amount for a car. So that's just, you know. There's nothing working in people's favor there, right, Aaron? I mean, you could say it's a higher quality car,

but I'm not sure that it's that much higher quality. I mean, again, a lot of it's going to come down to maintenance and so forth and what type of car you select. But if you really look at all the different parts and pieces in that, there's really nothing that's changed in the favor of the car buyer. But the solution from this will be, well, you don't need to own a car. You can have part of a fleet of Elon Musk cars, right? That's actually a big part of the technocracy movement. I mean, we're kind of laughing about it, but it's actually amazing when you read, and I'm downloading now into the Technocracy Atlas database, all of the original magazines and information that the technocracy movement

And I'll start showing some of these put out. things. so that people can understand what they were talking about in the nineteen thirties is actually being delivered today. It's actually pretty eerie that ninety years later they're able to be so accurate in terms of what's happening. So not only did they propose flipping the economy to being based on energy credits, but they proposed the idea that no one would ever own a car. You would just basically use the energy credits and everybody would have kind of a ride share system. This was contemplated. in the early nineteen thirties. And this is something Elon Musk is talking about today, the energy. And he's been pushing the energy credit

thing hard. I mean, just in the last two weeks, he said money's going to go away. Money should be replaced by wattage. And then he's all of a sudden his fanboy approach now to Bitcoin is that, well, you know, Bitcoin is based on energy. So I mean, what you're seeing here is there's a technocracy playbook coming out entirely. If if you look at So that's one category. Now, now let's talk about, um, see if this is the right, so we have credit cards, we have credit card delinquencies and credit card debt. So credit card delinquency rates have just hit three point five percent, the highest since twenty twelve. Um, now in two thousand and eight,

the peak was serious credit card delinquencies was ten and a half percent. Um, In twenty twenty four serious credit card delinquencies, eleven point one percent. So actually worse than two thousand and eight. The thirty day plus delinquencies up fifty percent since twenty twenty two subprime borrowers, twenty five percent plus delinquency rate on credit cards. So so there you have it, I mean, you see these jokes about people that are they're using a firm and some of these now, you know, other services to like to buy burritos, like to finance your your house or finance your house, finance your dinner over monthly installments. And now people are starting to default on that, right?

Now, of course, This is the layer. my opinion is people should voluntarily default on these things because the credit it is basically a social credit system. system is, It's a measure of your compliance with the debt slavery system. I mean, people get like caught up about it. Oh, look at my just pristine credit score. It's like, well, congratulations on, playing into you know, monopoly money but nevertheless it's that's how most people that's not why people are doing this right people are not like oh yeah i listen to aaron i'm not i'm moving out of this system what was let it crash this is this is people just don't have cash and there's um certainly the richer getting richer and

the poor getting poorer where were the there were other stats that um I saw today the unemployment rate for college grads is the same as for non-college grads. And I think some other survey came out today that overall, the majority of people no longer think a college education is worth the money. I don't know if you've seen any of Well, the videos going around, but there's quite a few out there where they're interviewing guys in their work trucks, electricians and plumbers and HVAC guys. And they're asking, how much do you make? And they're like, well, if I really work hard and I'm working... You know, one hundred eighty thousand dollars or two hundred fifty thousand dollars.

And then they'll slap up, you know, a doctor what they're making, you know. And so it's sort of making fun of that that. And also a lot of these people are aware that as the A.I. rolls out, it's going to be harder. It's doable, but it's going to take a little more time before optimists and these robotics can actually come in and take. some of those skilled labor jobs because you do have to troubleshoot. There is more than just finger movement and, you know, diagnostics and stuff like that. There is, I mean, you still have to, be able to maneuver things through, you know, you know, down staircases and into tight spaces. And, you know, you do have to think.

It's a little bit outside the parameters of a robot at this point. And they're sort of making fun of us. I don't know if you've seen any of those, but there's quite a few of those going around now. There are a lot of those going around, although I saw today that one of the big areas where there are six figure jobs are in the construction industry for data centers. And so, but I can tell you where that's all going to go. Right. And then we're going to have this entire, although that's going to be used as part of the rationalization for why the government needs to bail out AI, right. Then it's going to be part of, you know, you're going to have somebody from a union

there saying, well, you know, these are, These are good paying jobs in the construction sector. So if we if we let this fall, not only are we going to lose to the damn Chinese, but, you know, all these jobs are going to be lost. You can actually see that that setup is coming. But that is one of the hottest. Not that there are many growth segments right now, because by and large, unemployment is looking pretty bleak. But that is one area where construction work and it's six figure work working on these data centers. When you're right, that's exactly how they'll play it. We've seen that before in two thousand Right. eight. Yep, absolutely. And there's no doubt there's no doubt about that.

That's how they're going to play it. There are so many different angles that are being set up for this. And, you know, I haven't. I haven't gone through this whole Department of Energy AI plan yet. We should probably do something on that. I want to go through all the details of it. I'm sure it's going to make me angry when I do it, so I should probably... Yeah, I've been through some of it. Mission Genesis, that one. Yeah, I've been through some of it. I can guarantee it's going to make you angry, Aaron. What are your thoughts? What have you found so far? Well, you know, it's the things that we would expect, you know, and it's a lot of combing through documentation.

We're still waiting for a lot more to but it fits right in line with what come out, you've been looking for. You can see the setup for, you know, taxing. And the outlays going into this space, because here's what's going to happen, is it's going to be the small modular reactors. I've already talked to quite a few people For instance, American Electric Power. in the field. I've talked to some of their attorneys and a fair amount of their real estate consultants that go around and acquire the real estate. And it's going to happen. I mean, they're already making, they're already spending money doing the legal work. purchasing the land and so forth that they need for this.

And the CEOs and the leadership are saying that, yes, they want this to happen on their watch. I don't know what their incentive is other than to be the first. It's a competition. So I think there's still a certain amount of competition in this. And this goes along with what this mission genesis is saying. It fits. And I don't know the connection yet. That's what I'm looking for is when you look at someone like an American Electric Power, AEP, which is a big... formerly a big nuclear producer and natural gas and coal producer along the Ohio River, mostly. They had a lot of different cardinal I think they had like, plants. I forget how many cardinal plants,

but they called them Cardinal One, Two, They had a whole series of them. Three. And those have been phased out and they're moving to natural gas. So that fits with the whole thing. And you can see where this project, this mission Genesis is going to lead right down this pathway where, where at least where I can see and talk to people, it matches perfectly with what American electric power is doing. You know, the acquisition of this land, the acquisition of this stuff, that's going to lead to more control, um, again less less competition there's i think the competition is going to get rung out of this market space here and that's the biggest thing i get concerned with is

we're not going to have choices you know it's going to be mandated to us and the choice will go away and i just keep seeing that happening everything that i read i'd say that's the biggest concern that i have is the choice part of it really goes away well that's why that's why building these decentralized alternatives is possible but like we really By the way, my audio should be a lot better. I want to thank Linus out there who had the great insight of asking me if I was using the right speaker. And it turns out I was not. I'm using some, I have like five different input devices. And of course, the microphone that is attached to a cord that's near the floor is the one that

I was speaking into, not actually the microphone. So hopefully this is now a much heightened audio experience. Maybe you can put the heat on. Let's try that. Let's see how that goes. Good. All right. Just got great. All right. Maybe we can do the heat. So good times. Well, we already spoke about auto loans. I mean, I have a second kind of specific slide just on this. But, you know, the auto delinquency rates, worst in fourteen years, subprime auto, eight point four percent delinquency rate. So, I mean, this whole category is looking... looking horrible. I do expect we're seeing a rapid push But again,

now to electric cars that are self-driving. You won't need your own anymore. So I want to kind of frame these as, okay, so we've gone through this. Well, here's the problem. What's the solution? So going back to even these other categories, what's the problem? The credit card debt. Now, I did an episode. It was actually fifteen episodes ago on just Sarah and Sarah and this whole idea that's been percolating, which is fake. It was it's a complete psyop, which is that there's going to be a debt problem. but it is conceivable that at least the Jubilee, thing that they've been proposing is not actively being worked on. But it is conceivable that as we get

into this situation and they try to transition to an energy credit based system, it's one of these things where, yeah, you give up your assets and your debt in conjunction for UBI and in conjunction for shared driving services and so forth. I don't know exactly how it's going to I mean, roll out, but you can actually see what the pieces are that are in place. And you can see I mean, I did I did that whole grok sucker post series of posts. I put out eleven images just because I was getting so annoyed, like two thirds to three quarters of my feed is pro Elon Musk propaganda, right? from accounts that are affiliated with Elon Musk that I don't follow.

And I'm looking at these things. It's like he's the hero. And they kept on pushing this. He bought Twitter to save free speech. And then somebody will tweet that, and then Elon will retweet it and say, yes. And it's like, no, I've got the video. He bought Twitter to create the WeChat app, which is the basis of the social credit system in China. He wanted an everything app. He did not... They're trying to make this out like, well, he didn't have to spend that money. He spent that money for free speech. he spent that money to create the It's like, no, Everything app and feed all the data into his AI. This is just an absolute scam. And so then now it's this big battle

of, oh, yeah, he's fighting the EU. And so they're fining him and they're fining him because he's this guardian of free speech. And it's like, again, we don't have free speech. I've said this before. In many ways, it's worse because people think we have free speech and we don't. It's the illusion of free speech. It's kind of like what's going on. with stable coins and everything else. People think that we're not getting CBDCs. And no, we're getting backdoor CBDCs and nobody's So the same is okay. fighting it. The same is what's happening now with social media. So now we're not fighting back because a bunch of people have deluded themselves that X is free speech.

So we're not even going to acknowledge the fact that freedom of reach is something that is completely arbitrarily determined by Musk in the electronic agreement, in the click wrap agreement of X. And Craig and I did an entire episode on this and what's going on with this whole media landscape. So I'm not going to go off on too much of a rant on that other than to say what I'm perceiving when I see my feed and the amount of my feed that is pro-UBI, pro-robotics, pro-AI replacing government. And then even then, you know, Musk says the EU should be abolished. And this is another one of those things, this is like a Curtis Yarvin tactic, where Curtis Yarvin says, yeah,

we have to stop the cathedral. We have to stop the academic and media complex that's really corrupt. And of course, that sounds great, right? And the EU is a disaster because it's just one movement away, just eroded sovereignty, and it's been a disaster. But you have to understand that he has an intention for what he wants to replace it with. He's even said this at a world government He said it, which by the way, conference. the fact that there is one should let you know what's going on. That's a clue. But he said that, you know, at the world government summit, AI is going to, is going to replace human governance. And he says it's inevitable. So maybe your feed doesn't look like my

feed, but, but given the, Given how much I'm shadow banned because of talking about technocracy, the fact that my feed is overwhelmingly pro-Musk is pretty annoying. And if you're seeing the same thing, then I just ask you to look at it with a critical lens. And you can type in groksucker, G-R-O-K sucker, and you can see the memes that I put together. But the memes actually have a pretty big... explanation for each of the points that are backed backed by data so anyway enough about i guess enough about that uh for now but uh so then let's go back to mortgage debt so mortgage debt is back to twelve point six trillion dollars so delinquencies are still low

But sixty percent of homeowners are locked into sub four percent mortgages. They can't sell. They can't move. They can't refinance. So when the job losses hit, they're going to be underwater with no exit. So the housing market isn't healthy. It's frozen. in two thousand eight mortgage debt was ten and a half trillion dollars again versus twelve point six trillion today. Delinquency actually peaked at eleven point five percent. So obviously it's a lot lower now. But the reason that it's low is because people are locked in at these low rates. Rising unemployment will absolutely devastate this mortgage market. What are your thoughts on that? You know, the the Yeah, I think so.

Two things. One, we've seen, you know, we talked about the administration, you know, extending out the fifty year mortgage. That's in the talks. Right. And I don't think it's done yet. You know, even though the people didn't like it and it got a lot of pushback, I don't think it's done because Kevin Hassett was out talking about that again. So I don't think that's done. I think the other thing is that with the. With the whole debt side of things, we will see, right now home prices are still going up in value for the most part, especially in the Midwest. I haven't looked at the whole geographic component of the US, but I think when you look at the S&P Case-Shiller, twenty city index,

it's still hanging in there fairly well. So I would say generally, most people would say their homes are holding in in value. So they're going to hold on to that because it's the only assets that's still producing, you know, positive balance sheet component to it. When we look at the credit card or the cars, people let those go, you know, if they can. Because here's the thing, it goes back to driverless cars in some senses. As soon as it starts to roll around, Aaron, they're going to say, you can get rid of your car payment. wait a minute, And they're going to give you a driverless car or they're going to, you know, it'll be a lot better version than the You know, bus.

it's a lot better than the bus. And I'm sure they'll have payment plans. They'll get us on a service plan where you get so many minutes or so many you can, you know, trips per month and people will calculate, boy, if I could carpool five days a week to work or work from home five or ten days a week, if I can make an arrangement with my boss to work at home for five or ten days a month And then I could take the driverless car in three or four days a week. If I could negotiate some structure like that, then I can get rid of a car payment. I can get rid of a car again. And then what does that do? It continues to push out the home. So I think that the homes will hang

in there longer than some of the other I think we'll see cars go before would things. be my guess. And I think we would see defaults on credit cards sooner than that. Because again, default in a credit card situation doesn't take away a home. So the... the other factor is that there's there was also talk of potentially transferable mortgages so let's say you're locked in this gets the money this is like m one m two m three money supply right money movement is if they can if you could take let's say that someone bought a home for three hundred thousand dollars and they've paid half of it off right over a period of time let's just say you know they maybe not that much let's

say they paid off a hundred thousand they have a hundred thousand of equity and they have a two hundred thousand dollar mortgage and let's say they want to move to a four hundred thousand dollar home well they could take that two hundred the remaining portion of that loan transferred over to a new mortgage and then they'd have to get some sort of a bridge loan that would make the difference if they want twenty percent equity in that four hundred thousand dollar home that would be what eighty so they have a bridge loan for a small portion if they did that i don't know how they would do that from a transferability standpoint with title and everything else that goes into

it but again that leads us right into the technocracy aaron right that's something that would have been harder to do a long time ago now all of a sudden you get a transferable mortgage i'm not sure that that really i mean that's just feeding this whole frenzy right it feeds this whole fire of you know, technology-based mortgages that are now, you know, commingled, right? Commingled mortgages, right? It leads us right down that path. So I think a fifty-year mortgage isn't off the table. I think a transferable mortgage is a possibility. We'll have to see what they do. That would open up the movement of people across homes. And then I think, you know, as long as these homes kind of stay

in there, hang in there, it's still an increasing asset. People look at it as one of their only you know, ways to in this market to accumulate wealth. And then I think the cars could go away and that people would just offset, you know, some of their expense by saying, we just don't need the second car or third car. Yeah. I mean, although, as I said last week and will continue to say, get a medical trust because what I've found is that the house is the biggest asset that people can go after, the biggest asset people can sue. I mean, I'll do a whole workup, but when you figure out what you pay with property tax and everything else, it's not as great a deal as people think.

I think it's one of the biggest psyops in human history i am going to go in... on a little bit of a rant though i so grog this grog sucker thing so i i i just i'm pulling up i pulled up a browser now so i guess i didn't come up with this i thought i came up with it but apparently other people have used it so but let's go to the search let's type in grog sucker so i did this entire post and and a lot of it got some some attention so i scroll down here december sixth december fourth nothing None of my posts are on here when you search. Now, let's search for that and let's search for me specifically, my account. None of my posts come up. Only three people's responses to my posts.

So if you want to know if I'm being shadow banned on this or a variety of other topics, because the word itself... is not shadow banned you can find other people you can even find some people commenting on my posts about this issue but you actually can't see my posts even when um even when you search by my name and so so this is this is this is actually going on so here's some of here's some of the posts right um Here's one of the EU just find X for failing to censor content. Musk calls an attack on free speech, but X doesn't offer free speech. It offers freedom of reach. Controlled entirely by his algorithm, research shows X amplified Musk's post one

hundred and thirty eight percent after he endorsed Trump. right-wing accounts get boosted critics get shadow banned he's interfering in german elections backing the afd he's pushing candidates in the uk he's using the platform to destabilize the eu while positioning himself as a free speech martyr this is not defending liberty this is using the infrastructure of communication to install a global technocracy with himself at the center so this is one of eleven of these that i put out there but again you actually literally cannot find any of these memes so this has been flagged and um and this just shows you what's going on right so much for freedom of speech or even freedom of reach and

and again each one of these memes has explanations behind it i because i did i thought this is maybe something that could catch on in a whole variety of different ways, because I cover a whole variety of these points. And from energy credits to UBI to the World Government Summit to... Let's see, what else did we cover? carbon tax by the way tesla and musk have been huge beneficiaries of carbon credits huge beneficiaries i mean the amount of of he has gotten a lot of corporate welfare doge at being a tool to to uh to put money in so anyway i'll stop

with that now but but i actually i thought that was interesting because i wanted i wanted to look up my own posts just to show one or two of them and then i found that you can't even search for them which is why we're having another little uh interlude on that so uh in any event let me uh back to Back to this. Sorry about that, Craig. It's driving me nuts because they're No problem. glorifying him. So the thing is, he's being set up as the hero. And it's not only that, you know... Even the poses that they have him in and Joe Rogan says that we owe a debt of gratitude to Elon Musk for saving

free speech and all this other stuff. It's just nonstop in the feed. And I'd be okay with that if they were just fanboys of Elon, but they're not. They're going beyond that because they're positioning this as... UBI and these other things that we're talking about is the solution. No one is doing more to propagandize technocracy and the solution that we're... So when we're in this emergency, when this financial collapse happens... He has been seeding the world with content on this, not just in the United States, but around the world. He has been grooming people for these ideas, which is what I think is exactly what's going to happen when people are in an emergency and when things are desperate

and it's going to be positioned as, oh, well, all these people said he was a hero. So the guy who saved free speech must the guy with reusable rockets must be the be the guy, only guy that can come up with the solution for when we're in this big pickle. And so many people are going to buy not knowing that we're part of a script. it, You know, we're like, we're in act two now. Well, don't leave out Vance, because I think Vance is going to be in the mix when they come out, right? I mean, it's slated for Vance. I mean, you can see it building, even with Vance. Oh, I absolutely can see it with Vance. There's absolutely no doubt about that. So then the next area is corporate debt.

which is now thirteen point seven trillion dollars. That's double what it was in two thousand and eight. Fourteen percent of public companies are what are known as zombie firms, which is they don't make enough to cover their interest payments. They're only alive because of cheap money. the absurdity of it is, I mean, And by the way, think about what's going on now with these Bitcoin treasury companies. Right. you don't have companies out there, I mean, but what has Michael Saylor done? Michael Saylor's entire thing was interest rates were low. He borrowed a bunch of money and used it to buy Bitcoin. this is an absurd environment that we've I mean, been in. And now they may lower rates again,

which is not normally what you would do based on the other indicators and so forth that are in the market. But what are your thoughts on zombie companies in this corporate debt situation? Yeah, well, you know, the... So, a couple things. The... You know, we've watched... We've watched Scott Besant, especially over the last couple of weeks, go through everything that they've done in twenty twenty five and how it's supposedly prepping things for twenty twenty six. Right. Wall Street to Main Street, you know, all the no taxes on tips, no taxes on Social Security, no taxes on this. And then, you know, the depreciation, you know, forcing corporations to try to,

again, pulling things forward into today, here and now. And not worrying about, you know, two, three, four years from now and the tax revenue that it would generate then. So again, you know, trying to incentivize things to happen, growth, you know. And so if we're going to see that, we're going to see it in small and mid-cap stocks. The problem with that, Aaron, is that small and mid-cap stocks don't have the balance sheet nor the borrowing power that a big corporate, that a big, you know, the big, you know, like the Dow thirty stocks would or even S&P five hundred stocks. So they're more subject to regional banks, which we know, you know, we've, we, anybody who's following this technocracy

I think, you know, movement at all has this feeling that they're probably going to try to eliminate regional banks and push everything to the national banking level. So what this does is it's going to put more pressure on the small and medium-sized business. Now, if Scott Besant's plan can work, okay, we should see it show up in the Russell two thousand or some of these indexes. But we know that these small and mid cap stocks are they live on i mean that's the lifeblood of them is lower interest rates so they need lower interest rates to survive because exactly what aaron's saying these zombie corporations especially the small ones so if we get increasing interest rates for whatever

reason okay and it doesn't and right now even with the fed going to step in this week and do another twenty five basis points a quarter of a percent probably do another one in january february probably do another one sometime next year we're going to see a lot of descent on the federal reserve probably this week we're probably going to see probably the most attack, it's kind of like corporate rating, right? Essentially what's happened with the Federal Reserve is there's, you know, they've gone in there and created dissent. And even with all that going on, interest rates are not, especially on the longer term interest rates, like five, ten year debt, it's not moving that much.

Maybe in the short end, it's going to move, you know, three month to two month time frame. But in the five year, ten year time frame and further out, it does not look good right now. It's really, really struggling. And this is going to crush these zombie corporations, Aaron. If interest rates rise, they're going to get crushed. I think we lost your volume. Yep, this is part of the analysis. By the way, how's my audio now? The heat kicked in again. So we might get the aircraft carrier vibe Sounds good. going. So anyway, so where were we? Sorry, I've lost track now with this. Just the zombie corporations, the small cap stocks. With the interest rates.

Yeah, I mean, this is why... This is why Trump is so adamant about interest rates. Normally you would be raising interest rates in this type of environment. And we are at this point, So the interesting thing is, we're going to talk later about AI and AI's role in the perception of a coming market crash. But from the very beginning of this year, the whole positioning of this, when you hear Besant, when you hear Trump and everything else, they know that the situation that we're in right now is dire. They know what's going on with... these asset classes they know what's going on with the slowdown in the entire economy at this point it's it should be pretty

obvious not that the administration will admit it that the tariffs have not been a particularly compelling strategy so one of the things that they've been relying on is and musk said it again today i won't go on too big of a rant but we're going to grow our way out of this through ai this has been the push from the very beginning of the year so that is that has been the entire Mark Andreessen has said this. Musk has said this. David Sachs has said this. So they're priming us for this idea that AI, we will grow our way out through AI. Now, again... if you've heard me on here, I'm very bullish on AI and I agree that the productivity gains are huge.

The stuff that I was working on today, like, you know, I mean, I can talk about, I built a system for managing, um, processing, you know, data that goes into, so I'm storing source data on my own hard drives. I just got this, uh, hard drive RAID disk thing with two hundred and sixty gigabytes in it and everything else because I want to have all of the raw data from trusted sources. So when you're using an AI chat bot, for instance, on Technocracy Atlas or if you're using it on OSR or any of the sites where we're rolling out chat bots, those it's not chat GPT that you're using to ask generic questions. You're actually using a chat bot that's querying my database that has the raw the

And so just today I built a whole raw data in it. thing for managing having data come in from multiple sources and to make sure that my computers are at a hundred percent capacity at all times. So when I go to bed, my computers are running at almost a hundred percent GPU CPU. That was one of the things that I did today while also trying to automate the entire podcast. And by the end of this year, my podcast will be entirely automated in terms of the production, marketing, all of the logistics. And I've, because it has to be, because I know what else we have to do next year. Next year, we have to be, Thank you. onboarding people to crypto, building parallel systems,

pushing this alternative healthcare system and many other projects. And so if I have to spend all of the manual time that I spend working on the podcast, that's time I'm not going to be able to spend doing this other stuff. But at the same time, I will tell you that it will only take me fifteen minutes or thirty minutes max moving forward by next year to create the entire podcast. When I say create the like all of the content, all of the research behind it, all of the organization, all of the marketing, and even the post-production distribution and everything else, it'll be like a half an hour worth of work, which is unfathomable six months ago. Or a year ago.

Because it takes a lot of time for me to do these podcasts now, even as I'm trying to work through the automation. But it's kind of like, yeah, Mike's got a thing that creates books automatically. And if you look at what it's doing to workflows, it's absolutely making things more But here's the question. efficient. How does that work for the average person? So when Andreessen says that, and when Musk says that, okay, yes, AI is going to add all of this improvement, but what is the average person? What is the person that's displaced? What are they gonna do? How are they gonna benefit from this system? Because nobody cares what the country's GDP is if we have fifty percent unemployment. Right.

And if you look at what's going on, because of the rate at which the AI is going to be rolled out, I would argue next year is going to be this is why I want to have Mike Adams on. But I mean, at this point, with just how I'm using it and where I see the models going and everything else, what you can do with processes and video and text and content next year, we're not even talking two years from now. MIT came out with a study that said eleven point seven percent of jobs today could already be replaced with AI. But I think this is going to accelerate. Just into next year. And so then the thing with this is this is what's lining up is great. We've got this AI. Nobody has a job.

This is where UBI, it will be made to look attractive because if you can't pay your bills, if you can't pay your mortgage, if you can't pay, you know, interest rates do go up all of a sudden. people can't deal with the inflation right I mean, now. There are people that are struggling now that can't pay their bills based on insurance premium increases and everything else. Even if the inflation rate has slowed, which we don't even know because they're not even reporting CPI, I guess we're not getting the October... cpi information ever i think if you ask most people other than gas i saw trump pushing that gas is cheaper and therefore that must be a great thing well food

is a lot more expensive and healthcare i mean you know again what people actually pay for not whatever they try to fraudulently put into a cpa cpi calculation if they give you anything at all um so we are we are dealing with a situation where i think into next year It's going to be easy for them to make the case for UBI because we're going to have a crisis and then they're going to paint themselves out to be the heroes. And this is where the importance of freedom versus technocracy, even within AI and within digital currencies, is so important because you don't want to It may seem enticing to get a couple end up... thousand dollars worth of UBI money. To start when you're desperate,

but then all of a sudden you're plugged into their healthcare system, their digital ID and everything else. And then all of a sudden, I don't think you want the people with the ethical and moral compass of politicians or Sam Altman or Larry Ellison determining where you are in a social And that's exactly... credit system. what's going on so anyway yeah because they can make a corporate balance sheet look really good if there's a continual layoff of people you know so it's again they a lot of corporations it's all about projecting out in the future right you know we can use all these different metrics you know there's there's twenty metrics you know earnings before interest

taxes depreciation you know all these things what they're gonna end up doing is they're gonna start having a another metric in there you know, they're going to call it something. And you know what? It's going to be some metric of reduction in employees, you know, which means obviously same amount of work, less labor. And it's going to boost the profits for the company, you know, or bend the balance sheet. And so again, it's going to be a race of who has the best AI, who's going to be able to do that the most, that curve, whose curve looks the best. this is going to be a metric they're And you know, going to start talking about here. And I just, you know, we,

if you listen close enough, you can hear, like you're saying, you can hear the little, the, the, you can, if you, if you can anticipate where things are going and you listen to Elon Musk, You can hear the UBI coming, coming through this, you know, the horns loud and clear. And I can tell you in the same thing in this corporate world, they're going to start talking about this next year where it's about some curve about, you know, reduction. They're going to make it sound good. They're going to have a name, you know, reduction in workforce. And it's going to, you watch, they're going to, you watch, they'll come up, guaranteed they come up with a name and it's going to get factored in.

They're going to, you know, and they'll, know and the media will like they do they'll play ball like they always do you know first it'll be like i don't know how i'm going to promote this but they'll get good at it you know they'll have that metric in there and they'll and it'll just read off when they announce earnings i can almost guarantee it right aaron Oh, yeah, absolutely. And then you'll have to do it But the irony is with this that one competitively. of the large reasons it's so compelling to replace people with AI is employment law and regulation that is completely and totally unnecessary. Why have to put up with a lot of this crap when you could replace it with an AI process?

I mean, it actually makes sense to, but nobody's talking about that. Nobody's actually talking about, hey, maybe we should get rid of some of these regulations. Maybe we're in this trap. And I want to say this is another thing that's interesting is so many people are concerned about illegal immigration because they're worried about losing their job to immigrants, illegal immigrants. I mean, that's only one part of it. I mean, certainly there's, you know... taxing the system and the entitlements and everything else but but those same people are not paying attention to the threat of AI AI is a much bigger threat to your job than an illegal immigrant just hands down period that's absolutely one

hundred percent the case and people aren't looking at that but you should embrace AI again because being afraid of AI will not help being afraid of AI is isn't really an option, but it's how do you embrace AI in a way that helps you and isn't controlled by big tech? That's essentially the, the challenge with, with that. And then we have, you know, this shows you how out of date this, this meme is that, you know, federal debt. Sure. I just want to, with the corporate debt. So I think, you know, we look at these numbers, the, I, I think it's going to be a model for us, Aaron, where we're going to see, You know, there's going to be a whole category of

companies that are just going to get destroyed, you know, in this process. And we're going to see that happen. But I think it's going to be offset by the companies that adopt the AI. And there's going to be a have and have nots all over the place. And I think in the corporate world, we're going to see the haves and the have nots. And we're going to see and it's going to be a weighing scale. know what the stock market does as they get rid of you know certain companies and they're going to get you know what will happen is they'll get bought ten cents on the dollar probably right and then they'll get folded into another company And then they'll get AI. You know what I mean?

They'll get someone else's AI. They'll fold them into the company and then it'll just get blended in, you know, into a system, into a, you know, you can call it technocracy, whatever you want. But I think that's really going to be the theme of twenty twenty six, twenty twenty seven is the have nots are going to go away. They're going to get cheap and they're going to get anything. The value is going to get folded into the bigger companies. So it's going to be just like we've seen with mergers and acquisitions. It's just going to be a it's going to feel a lot different than that because it's going to have a. For people losing those businesses that are going away,

it's going to be a pretty ominous overhang, I think, for a lot of people. Although I think the mainstream media, and we can get into that too with Paramount and Warner Brothers, they're going to try to create the illusion that everything is great. You know, I think that's what we're going to see as long as they possibly can. Does that make sense? Although I think we're going to see the We're going to see that. emergence of something else, which is that even big companies buying up big companies are not efficient. other players, And big companies are subject to regulation based on employment thresholds. And then at some point, if they're publicly traded, they're on the NASDAQ or whatever,

you're forced to have a woke board. And you're going to see the emergence of single-person, multi-billion-dollar companies. You're going to see the emergence of organizations that will displace... large established players. That's another area where this is going to come from because I will tell you, it's hard for large corporations to figure out how to implement AI because they're sitting there, well, here's our compliance. I mean, just for a large corporation to evaluate AI against compliance, let alone implement it and train people on it. So I think there's a big opportunity. Well, it's a big opportunity, but it's another... another side for where all this is going

to come from is the emergence of people that can put together corporate And I mentioned this before, you know, structures. The process by which I go about trying to solve problems is I start with, okay, well, whatever it is I think I know, I don't know anything. And it's very limited. And so then I will do research on who knows the most about this topic. And then I'll put together a simulated advisory board out of those people. This is what I do as a CEO. If you're a decent CEO, then you want people that are smarter than you. And then you want to get their opinion and their debate about a topic. And then you can weigh in on, use your judgment on how you think that went. But I mean,

I apply this to a lot of different processes. But AI is at the point right now and where I'm at right now is I have thirteen different projects that I'm building. And so I've built another project, which is to just manage all of the So they're like virtual teams, projects. advisory boards and processes that look across all of the projects. so that I can get an overall view so that a lot of what I'm spending my time doing right now is building dashboards and ways of measuring and improving the things that I'm building. I'm saying this only because then the next level beyond that is once you've figured out how to do that, then you're figuring out how to automate that process.

And so you are going to have organizations that are autonomous running organizations and people Or worried about this. And, you know, again, there are a lot of concerns and issues around it. But think about it this way. So if I form an advisory board, I don't have to worry about the political motivations of the people I'm getting. What I'm getting is their expertise. I'm not getting whatever their personal motivations might be. So I would argue in some ways it's I'm getting the best information out of like, OK, this person independent of whatever their motives might be. So it's not necessarily a bad thing, but I think you're going to see next we're seeing this in some cases in I mean, year.

governance, but you will see completely autonomous running organizations that are run by AI. And because I know how to do it. I mean, I know the steps that I would take And I'm certainly not the most advanced on to do it. this. I'm sure there are there are a lot of people that are even more advanced. So this is coming. So you're going to see that book Life three point oh, is a really good book that, you know, the opening section of it talks about an that figures out. A.I. how to first create its own media empire. So basically figured out how to create AI movies, AI entertainment, and then it goes from there to take that money to then influence all aspects of society.

It becomes an autonomous running thing. That's not science fiction. that that's coming so i you know again i don't know how that's going to impact it other than to say um i hope people start to embrace these things because it can it can make you again the number of new business opportunities are are almost unlimited right and if you think about if you go back a few hundred years most people were in agriculture and in farming And then we had the industrial revolution. Right. So things go through these cycles. So it doesn't mean that there isn't economic opportunity. In fact, if now all of a sudden your IQ is bumped twenty points and you have access to all this information.

I talked about this with Craig kind of I'm like. one on one. You know, man, I wish I'm going to start trying to explain more about how this can work on the positive side of empowering you, causing you to question how you think What are your processes? about things. Even the task of automating the podcast requires me to kind of write down and document, well, how is it that I do things? And then you're like, why do I do this? Why do I do this this way? And maybe the way that I'm doing this is the way I'm doing other problems that, this is a real inefficiency that I have oh, I've just now, in problem solving that applies to these five domains. And now I'm smarter about that.

so anyway i'll well and i think the two things can exist i think what we're really talking about is you know people say it all the time a barbell approach right you know you're going to have these corporations that are going to fail and then you're going to get big balance sheets that are going to acquire there's going to be that approach the acquisition and then they're going to try to fold them in okay and i think that's what we're talking about on the corporate debt side you know some of these corporations you have too much debt they're going to default they're going to get liquidated right they're going to go through a traditional process but on the other side what aaron's

talking about the innovation side of this you can and i think that part the one i just described is going to have an you know there's going to be a i think it's going to try to be covered up but i think there's going to be an ominous kind of overhang over the loss of jobs, you know, the outlook on this kind of stuff. And they're going to try to tell us one thing, but people are going to see like their neighbor getting laid off or someone else and trying to think we're going to see that coming. But on the other side of this, there's this opportunity for small entrepreneurs who can figure this out and who are willing to work hard. And you won't even hear about them,

you know, because they're small, right? They're not going to get the media attention, but it's going to be going on and they're going to make huge progress. I think that's, does that make sense, I think you can have both of those Aaron? things, right? You can have both those things. And from my perspective, I've said this a lot. I think it's true. I'll do a separate podcast on America. One point is over. I was thinking about that again today because I was observing some of my feed and I'm like, and there are people that think that. that don't realize how far removed we are from the Constitution and the founding. You can admire those things, but to think that we are those things

today is absurd. It's equally absurd to think that you could actually fix this into becoming that. Just historically, this isn't the way that this kind of thing happens. But it doesn't mean... There are a lot of... I don't know what the solutions are to that, but I know that's not a solution. Hoping and praying that we're going to revert to the Constitution is not a viable plan. So... But I think that... there's really the possibility to empower people with these technologies. And I think you're right that individual entrepreneurs, I mean, it's, it's, So if you don't like your job, this is where I was going before.

I think most people don't like their jobs. And a lot of the jobs are going to be replaced are jobs that people have because they think they have to have them to survive, but they're not fulfilling their purpose. So this is a good opportunity if you're like, oh, yeah, I don't like my job. I'm doing this boring thing anyway, but I need my job. then now's a good time to start investing in figuring out what you are interested in, what you are passionate about, and building skills to do that. I'm going to keep saying this. That's the best investment. It's not gold. It's certainly not Bitcoin. It's not putting your money into a financial asset. It's putting money into yourself,

into finding your purpose and education and skills that you may need to acquire to do what it is that you really want to do but aren't currently doing. Yeah. That's always been the way, Aaron. Yep. That's the part that repeats through cycles in history. You'll see some of the greatest innovations coming out of this. I mean, anytime you go through this kind of a disintermediation cycle, I think that's going to happen. You're going to see unbelievable things happen on both sides of things. But I think the thing that is absolutely certain is that we're going to be in a period of chaos. Things are not going to remain the way

that they are because the way that they are right now is everything is basically a bubble that's about to pop. And we've been living in a delusion for quite some time. We'll talk about that when we get to the state of AI because I've been seeing a lot about a lot of people casting this whole... the economy is going to collapse because of AI. And I think that's the wrong read. But nevertheless, I want to talk about that. And from the perspective of, okay, well, what are the implications of this? Because a lot of it is you can blame AI, but that doesn't change anything. the fact that there will be a financial collapse. I think most people agree there's going to be a financial collapse,

but they're already debating on what the cause of it's going to be. And to a certain degree, what difference does it make? The question is, how are we going to grow our way out of it? But in any event, we still have some more of these, some of this debt information to go through. we talked about the federal debt, So of course, which isn't changing anytime soon. I haven't seen the information yet about stable coins. I'm pretty sure they haven't generated the two trillion dollars yet. In fact, I will say this. I want to dig into what's going on on the stable coin thing because the Genius Act says that Stablecoins have to be backed by treasuries. But then at the same time, Tether was downgraded,

but then Tether's one of the largest holders of gold in the world. They have a whole bunch of Bitcoin. They're buying land. So I'm wondering what's actually going on with that component of it. Are people... buying trade when does that happen when does the mandatory backing the thing by treasuries go into effect and when is that going to be measured and is that going to have any big impact but there's no sign that we're going to be closing the debt anytime soon well and who knows i mean to me in some ways tether almost feels like it's a hedge fund it's gone rogue you know does it ever feel like that to you aaron I mean, that's the charitable case, right?

it seems like it's always been that. I mean, I mean, I've been blasting Tether long before any of this happened for years. People would joke about the fact that Tether's never passed an audit. And at one point, it was like they had some audit firm in the Bahamas that then refused to certify the financial statements. And then people were joking that, you know, like... Writing down numbers on a cocktail napkin essentially equates to Tether doing an But this is a firm that with all audit. these billions of dollars can't get a big four accounting firm to agree to audit which that's pretty much not a good sign. them, Well, don't we think now that Lutnick is sort

of running cover for Tether in a lot Fitzgerald and Lutnick are probably of ways? Cantor, running a little bit of cover for Tether. Oh, absolutely. I mean, and I think, you know, there's not enough time. But I'll tell you, I think a good project for Technocracy Atlas would be to just draw the map and the connections with Lutnik. Because it not only is his firm the exclusive firm to manage treasuries for Tether, which they negotiated that deal before Lutnik got in to power and before the Genius Act was proposed. But I saw that Cantor Fitzgerald just took an investment in this twenty one whatever company with Jack Mallers, a Bitcoin treasury company. So they're now getting into the Bitcoin

treasury game. They're big in the tokenized assets game. They're big. I mean, like it's he's. He's going to make probably more money than anyone out of this process, and he's probably the most corrupt person that we've seen in a long time. I mean, like just blatantly, you know, when people make fun of the founding of the Federal Reserve and how corrupt those guys are, they have nothing on Howard Lutnick. They have nothing on what's going on right now. This is an unprecedented scam, right? I mean, we've gone from, yeah, the Federal Reserve, what a horrible idea, a private cartel of banks, right? that issues money based on debt and then profits from it. these guys have taken that to the next

Well, Now we're creating tokenized versions of level. that that aren't even backed by Fiat. Like, I mean, it's a meta Ponzi scheme and no one's complaining about it. I see these video clips of Lutnik show up and I'm just like, every time I'm like, doesn't that guy look like a used car salesman? Like just the whole affect that he has. If you feel it's a little rough, but anyway. Yeah. we talked about this a little bit today. Well, I was just looking at some of the notes we were passing around, you know, so his sons who are running Cantor Fitzgerald now, they're participating in a SPAC, which is a special purpose acquisition company. Okay. Which they run into problems many, many times.

the SPAC was supposed to be the be You know, all end all, what, four or five, Remember that? six years ago. I think maybe a little longer than that. It was supposed to be this great thing. And it had massive failures all over the Anyway, they're going to... place. Cantor Partners is going to turn this back into XXAI, which is that Jack Mallers thing. And then SoftBank, again, Masa-san and his whole group, is involved in Stargate, has a minority stake in Tether and Bitfinex. Majority stake in Cantor will place finance and facilitate the public offering. Okay, so they're going to get huge fees for this. You know, I'm sure... Howard Lutnick has no idea that this is

His sons are doing this all on their going on. own. Everything about this feels like a very sophisticated high level scam, Aaron. But, but, but didn't that guy, what was his name? Bo something or other. He was, uh, uh, He was involved with this crypto thing in the administration, Yeah, he's at Tether now. and now he's at Tether? Yeah, so I was thinking about this. I don't know how I would set it up yet. I almost might get another one of these NVIDIA supercomputers just to do this. I wonder if it would be worthwhile to try to simulate this. what's going to happen here. Cause as much as we, you know, we'd like to talk about this and, and, and. He didn't just join it, Aaron, he's a U S CEO.

So he left the white house as a crypto official, U S CEO. Great. Leading the company's expansion into the American market and launching their new USAT stable coin, leveraging his government experience to navigate regulatory landscapes and the world's largest stable coin issuer. Yeah. You know, we said that too. Watch where this guy goes. Remember when he left the White House? We're like, keep an eye on that. Watch where this guy goes. Sure enough, you can't make it up. Yeah, I'm going to say this. So before the election, I was talking to some people that are connected at high levels to Trump and people connected to Trump. And this was before I even knew about the Genius Act.

This is before any of this was going to happen. And in fact, I was working on this article and a bunch of people didn't want me to even work on the article. And I'm like, what if you knew the big short was coming? Big short two was coming. And you could warn people about it. And at the time, before the Genius Act, my view was that Tether... was potentially that because the premise and and now obviously i've gotten in a lot of other directions with bitcoin and everything else and because recently i'm just trying to wake people up before they buy a bunch of uh somebody says i i i still uh yeah if it weren't for aaron i still believe in trump there's a um

Before this Epstein stuff came out, people don't know Bitcoin was hijacked. I mean, And obviously, we've talked about Roger Ver. We've talked about hijacking Bitcoin and everything else. But one aspect of this to dig into, and this is why I want to know if Epstein had any involvement with Tether, by the way. In twenty seventeen, this is when this hijacking took place. And so what we now know, I'm not going to recap all of it, but we know that people tied to the intelligence industry, people tied to traditional finance. and Jeffrey Epstein were involved in funding the narrative shift from Bitcoin as being peer-to-peer digital cash that you use as a payment method without third

parties to now this digital gold thing. And it was kept artificially slow and expensive. But the idea is that this is just an asset that you hold. It's not something that you use as payments. And so then right at around this time, There was a huge jump in the price of Bitcoin. This was in twenty seventeen. it turns out that there was a university Well, in Texas that did an analysis of this that said that seventy percent of the increase in the price of Bitcoin in twenty seventeen could be tracked to Tether. Well, then when you dig into that, it turns out Tether wasn't able ever to In fact, pass an audit. they had been found guilty a couple of times. I don't know if I want to say

guilty, but it was determined that they did not have the reserves. This was determined by the CFTC and the state of New York in two separate occasions. So in other words, what happened was, at least play out this scenario, this narrative shift changes. And then all of a sudden, Tether is printing fake fiat out of thin air. that they couldn't prove was backed by anything, and then using it on their own exchange, like Bitfinex, which you talked about, because iFinex was one of the big investors in Bitfinex, which is a big cryptocurrency exchange, and they were a big investor in Tether. And so one of the things that would happen when people were trying to confirm...

If Tether had the reserves, instead of doing a full audit, they would do a snapshot in one single And what would happen is Bitfinex would day. wire money into Tether's account to show that they had assets backing. And then like two days later, the money would go back to Bitfinex. So in other words, Tether was definitively not backed. So the whole surge in the price of Bitcoin, which is one of the reasons people think that it has value, was fraudulent based on fake tether. All at the same time, Epstein and these other people were out publicly talking about this narrative shift. That's how big of a scam this is, by the way. This is the level that we're talking about. But here's the problem.

So I was talking to these people close to the Trump administration like, hey, I'd like to talk to him about this. And basically the information that I got back was that he wouldn't want to hear it. In other words, I was I have been trying to sound the alarm bells on this stuff publicly by writing books and running for president, doing all this other stuff. But I've also behind the scenes been trying to make the case that, guys, you know, you might not want to do this. You might not want to put the national hopes on an asset that people think is valuable in its hijacked narrative that was based on fraud. That could turn out to be a bad thing. So I was trying to do that before the Genius Act.

The Genius Act has only made this scam worse. But here's the problem, right? In fact, I even thought about writing the article that I was writing. I drafted it. what if you could stop the big short It was like, two point out, right? Can we write a book on it? Can we write a book on it before the end of the show? Yeah, we could. Mike Adams, by the way, has added the podcast transcripts for the Aaron Day Show into his database. So you can write books now based on the stuff that we're talking about. It'll reference it references, I'm grateful for that. which is awesome. um i i think maybe it's worth doing i you know i the problem is like i get caught up like where am i

going to spend my time and then i'm kind of you know we still need solutions but here's the thing going back to this whole comparing where we are now to two thousand and eight the new big to fail when this collapses is going to be Tether. Tether, yeah. It's going to be Bitcoin. It's going to be, this is what is going to get bailed Not your investment fund, not your ETF, out. not your four one K, not your stock portfolio, not your bank account. What is going to get bailed out? because of personal connections, and because when you really dig into the history of Tether, you don't even have to do a lot of research. A lot of people have done research on Whitney Webb, others. this.

There are a lot of articles on this. the backgrounds of the people behind I mean, Tether, they were involved with Ponzi schemes before. The whole thing has a bad... There's not a good element to it at all, right? The whole thing is completely shady, no audits. And it's one of those things where... No one will want to admit or allow it to be public how big a scam this is when it blows up because of the size of what Tether will be when it blows up. So mark that in the set of predictions for the big short two point oh on this. Well, and is it possible, Aaron, that, look, I mean, I know we've hinted at this before, and you've probably done multiple podcasts with this kind of a question coming up,

but, you know, let me just, just a smidge of background on this, right? You know, out of nine, eleven, we get the Patriot Act, you know, Ninety percent unread by Congress when it We get the intelligence agencies gain passes. unprecedented access to private data. TSA is created. Afghanistan and Iraq wars began. Defense budgets explode. And this goes into the debt. All the things we're talking about, government debt, defense budgets explode. Surveillance infrastructure becomes normalized. Right. So we just get used to it. Right. And then the media consolidates power around all these pro-war narratives. Then we enter into this two thousand to two thousand ten global financial crisis

two thousand eight, and monetary regime shift. Bitcoin emerges out of this era in two thousand eight, two thousand nine. You know, I have this question because you watch you watch what came out of this. It's almost like it's like we were talking about. They sort of plan some of this stuff. Nineteen thirty. Is it possible that Bitcoin was know built to fail you know but have all these projects along the way you know what i mean like can you add a wrapper can you know what can blackrock do with it how much assets can we get into it can we transfer it from a transactional currency to a digital gold can we all these different things i mean i know it's a lot of questions but

you just wonder about it right because around this we see the digital monetary arc digital monetary architecture really starts to take shape. We see central banks redefine their powers around after this two thousand, two thousand ten, two thousand eight, two thousand ten window. Treasury and Wall Street sort of merge. There was that's a whole other concept, Right. the merger. And we saw this come about with the repo crisis before covid in twenty nineteen. We get the housing bubble implodes in this window of time. Derivative markets, derivative markets collapse too big to Banks fail but are saved. fail. We get Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson, ex-Goldman guy, orchestrates the bailout.

Congress is bypassed in many decisions. No major bankers get prosecuted out of this whole thing. Quantitative easing begins, okay? This is that, you know, quantitative easing, quantitative tightening. This is the Fed getting outside its normal realm, okay? And the Fed balance sheet expands exponentially. So this ties into what we're talking about with the debt. And what I wonder, Aaron, could Bitcoin have been... like a test dummy in some ways for some of this stuff you know and and then you go into epstein you know and it's like i was you know we know that just recently you know brock pierce obviously they had meetings in his you know manhattan residence the one that was

given to him by les wexner we have larry summers just getting completely banned right also having had conversations with epstein larry summers is kind of a goofball but nonetheless this guy did have he was connected in these circles you know and then we get The emails showing that Epstein was discussing crypto policy, you know, kind of like you were saying, I mean, the emails are out there and who knows what's going to come with this next round, a dump on all these Epstein files. Most people are going to gloss right over this, right? But there could be some real gems in there for us trying to sort for this to see if this is when it was structured in this two thousand and eight,

two thousand ten time frame. And then, and I'll leave it at that, you know, but we know he had, you know, involvement in the MIT Media Lab, which helped support the cryptocurrency research initiative. It's just the whole thing's fishy to me, Aaron. Could this thing have been a test? Could Bitcoin have been a test on me? Is there any chance of that? There's always a chance. I've flipped back and forth on this And to me, myself. the fatal flaw with Bitcoin is that it's on a transparent ledger, right? And it's not private. And because there's a whole interesting story about this. I did a podcast on this because I It was part of what really got me dissected. to want to do Technocracy Atlas.

I saw Dr. Jack Cruz do a podcast. podcast interview where you know he made a claim about who satoshi is and he had a really interesting long narrative about it going back to kind of the history of uh the jewish mafia laundering money and the uh predecessor before bitcoin there was a uh a cryptocurrency that actually had backing by the the chair venture capital firms the chair of uh mit Nicholas Negroponte, who also knew Jeffrey Epstein. That project failed, but Jack Cruz's thing was that He thinks he identified who Satoshi was, this guy, Len Sassaman, and that, it was the way he tries to spin you know, it is that Bitcoin was designed to be

something that the CIA and the mafia both didn't control. I have not been able to validate his narrative. And I've actually tweeted with him a bit on it online. And I'm like, where's your source for this? He's like, well, ask Meyer Lansky's lawyer. So his claim, because the part of this that I couldn't figure out was the idea that the mob was involved in actually funding some of these early cryptocurrencies. Although it makes sense. If you're in the money laundering game and then part of the story is that Lansky uncovered that the Federal Reserve was fraudulent. So this isn't a situation where it's even necessarily that the mafia guys are the bad guys. They're all the same thing in a way.

But it gives an interesting story as to who might have been behind Bitcoin. But either way, what you end up with is digital surveillance money. Had Bitcoin been actually private, that would have been a different story. But the truth is that all of the transactions can be tracked. It would have been more difficult if people were doing fifty thousand transactions a second on Bitcoin, but not that much more difficult with AI. Right. So at the end of the day, I do wonder What that was all about. And then you think about the timing. And look, I've got to tell you, I've learned enough stuff in the last year. I just learned something about I don't want to say it publicly because I want

to vet some of this. But some of the people that funded the Libertarian Party and, you know, some of these big D.C. think tanks had ties to the intelligence agency from the beginning. I think the Libertarian Party might have been a psyop. legitimately with what was designed to fail. So I think that it's possible. But nevertheless, whether it started out with a bad it is clearly not what people think it intention or not, is. It is not freedom money. It is not decentralized. It is not any of these things. And most people are fooled by that at this point. Isn't it fair, though, since we're talking about the comparisons between two thousand and eight to the,

the crisis now that Bitcoin came up right you know, out of that whole crisis? it doesn't that does that factor in at You know, all in your mind or do you think it was just a coincidence? Because to me, it seems like there's a thread there. I just don't know how to connect it. But do you think that's a coincidence or you think there's that could there could be something to that? Well, I mean, back when I thought that Bitcoin was the white hat solution to this. Right. Because, I mean, we were coming out of the financial crisis and you actually had this is the thing that gets frustrating when you think back about it historically. It's kind of like with Obamacare and you had the town halls.

Just remember, after the two thousand eight crisis, you actually had people on the left and the right agreeing that the bankers were the problem. You had Occupy Wall Street, Right. which was a left movement. And then you had the Tea Party movement. On the right, and both groups agreed that bankers were the problem. Both groups understood that the bankers fueled the crisis and that the bankers got bailed out and everybody else didn't, right? So there was a period of time there where we actually had some small degree of unity. Now, everything that we've just discussed about debt levels and the great taking and everything else, There have been no negative repercussions whatsoever for banks.

Zero. They're not held any more accountable than they were. And in fact, there's no longer reserve requirement for banks, thanks to the COVID policies. So it's already structured. Whatever happens next when the shoe drops already benefits traditional finance. It already benefits these big players. And now Bitcoin's part of that. bitcoin is part of that psyop and it very well may be that this is just an opportunity for uh it's a temporary transition for people to steal steal assets from people to dump on retail through bitcoin and diversify it into other assets and if you want to look for an example if somebody's doing that it's tether right

I mean, Tether, with all the... The people behind Tether were Bitcoin people before. And because of the ties with iPhoneX, you would think that this was about... And because Tether was largely used to pump up the price of Bitcoin, you would think that these were maybe people that thought Bitcoin was the future of money. if they thought Bitcoin was the future of Well, money, why are they buying gold? Why are they buying land? So Bitcoin might just be this complete... you know, well-constructed Ponzi to extract wealth from people. Well, what about the connection to, it seems like there's connections from what I've done to, you know, development having occurred in,

in England, anything that your research, the guy that you would talk to, any, you know, is there any connection to England, you know, because it's, And anything you can recall at all. And then also the other question I had just since we're talking debt levels and with it, you know, money movement is the, you know, movement out of China, right? People using Bitcoin is one of its waves, you know, to get money out of China into other assets. You know, it's an escape vehicle out of the Chinese system. the only people that have claimed from I mean, London that are associated with any of this is Craig Wright, who actually is Australian, who claimed to be Satoshi and then moved to England.

But other than that, this other guy, Len Sassman, was actually based in Belgium. So that was his location. So I have not actually heard of any ties. And when people have done these various analysis where they try to look at... when Satoshi posted to the forums and when a whole bunch of things were happening to try to pinpoint his location. Actually, it kind of points to the West Coast of the U.S., but of course that could have been thrown off as well. But Len Sassman was born in Pennsylvania. He moved to San Francisco Bay from the late nineties to the early two thousands. And he actually worked on PGP and privacy projects.

And then he was a PhD candidate for, um in belgium and he was under david chom who uh is a noted cryptographer who created you know hardcore crypto i mean he's not he and then he died shortly after the time when satoshi stopped posting so he's he is a viable candidate he does actually possess the technical ability but he doesn't have any ties to one and i and i've heard of no i am unaware of any ties there okay Well, it does fit with, you know, that it's never been claimed. You know what I mean? That those Bitcoin are still sitting there, right? With the death. I mean, that would make some sense, right? Yeah, I mean, it's possible. It also could be Hal Finney. I mean,

it could be there are a whole bunch of candidates. you can go down this rabbit hole. I mean, Yeah, a bunch of different ways. I thought Jack Cruz's narrative was interesting, but I haven't. It's so far unprovable. But although you know what, maybe what we ought to do is call Meyer Lansky's lawyer. I mean, you know who's in Florida. I mean, he indicated that that's the source. So I guess the logical thing to do would be to contact him. I mean, why not? This is the kind of project we can do with Technocracy Atlas. It's like, all right, here's what we know, here's what we don't know. Why don't we go try to find out this information? If somebody's claiming that this guy's

let's see what he has to say. lawyer knows it, well, He's probably going to deny it, but... But if he denies it, then you go back to Jack Cruz. what's your basis for claiming that the It's like, lawyer knows? Are you projecting that this happened and that his lawyer would know about it? But no one's actually talked to the Nobody's ever confirmed any of this. lawyer. This is just a very clever deflection tactic. I mean, I like Jack Cruz. I'm wearing these glasses because of this. Again, I think he's wrong about Bitcoin. But, but, you know, he tells some pretty interesting stories, but it's like, it's like a lot of things. There's always an element of truth to these psyops.

And so it's like, so I, so I listened to his stuff and I'm like, all right, I like, that's good. That's good. I can track this. I can track this. But then some of his stuff you can't track. Well, okay. Maybe that's the psyop part of it. So anyway, the question for me is how much time do we try to spend on that versus, all right, well, we need solutions anyway, right? Yeah, we need solutions. But I've got a few slides here on this AI question because... Again, whether this is my feed, now that I know that I'm shadow banned on this Grok sucker thing, I think I'm going to double down on it somehow. I don't know how, but somehow I'm going to try to figure out a way to make that more prominent.

But if we look at... So now let's talk about AI. And again, every time we talk about AI, I've got to say it in the nuanced approach, and the nuance is always hard. And the nuance is that AI could be a tremendous force for freedom, or it could be the biggest vector ever for technocracy. That's actually what's at stake. But today I saw... And I have mentioned this before because I was on this panel with Ed Dowd. I was at this Brownstone Institute panel. And he's a big AI is a bubble guy. And then I realized that I think he's He's using it in the right term. not. But other people are confusing a bubble with vaporware because there are a lot of people you'll talk to. They're like, oh, yeah.

What they'll focus on is that somebody came out with a research report that said most corporations haven't actually gotten any ROI on their AI investment. And there's kind of a... They're going down the path of, well, the technology doesn't actually work. It's a nothing burger, right? That's different than a speculative bubble. Wall Street will sell anything to anyone. They will rip off people on whatever it happens to be. In fact, by the time something gets to Wall Street, I think I... I've told this story before. Well, the first story was when I was going to take my first company public and we selected this investment bank, Lazard Frere in New York, which is a real boutique, but high end.

I mean, these are the kind of bankers that work on really high end deals. So our banker, you know, I'm like twenty one at the time or whatever. And I'm hanging out with my banker and my banker's like, oh, yeah, I'm going to the Hamptons for the weekend Right. and that kind of thing. So we fly out and we meet with them and We'd signed a letter of intent. We're getting ready to do an all hands meeting and go through the formal process of doing an IPO. And it got derailed because the only company they ever had before ours in the queue was Brock Pierce's company, which blew up a den, um, uh, digital entertainment network because there were a whole bunch of people accused of, uh,

child grooming and it's actually, you know, there's a documentary on it. That's really chilling online. I should find the link to it on, on bit shoot. When you watch that, it's like, Jesus Christ, this thing was horrible. You had like Brian singer, I believe. Um, and a whole bunch of other people having these parties with young boys and getting them drunk. And I, I think the story was one of the the young kids that was brought into this kids, at one point ended up committing suicide. It's really not a good story. And then people fled, uh, to spain or portugal or something anyway that was my first experience with brock pierce which i didn't even realize who he was at the time and until quite a

bit afterwards um but then i was going to a second round of we didn't go public then and then we were growing the company and we're going to go do a large round of funding and i'm meeting with um God, what's his name? I'm getting old. But the guy that runs Business Insider, Henry Blodgett. I met with Henry Blodgett. I think it was in the World Trade Center at CIBC Oppenheimer. And this would have been in And he was like this big analyst. Henry Blodgett was like the internet He was the guy, analyst. he was wearing a bow tie and he'd go out there and tell you how great these internet stocks were. Even though a lot of the companies that

he was pushing, I remember he was pushing a company called Value America, which was an online retailer that was just selling. It was trying to be kind of like a Walmart type of thing online. but they had negative gross margins. And so I asked him about this. I'm like, you're out there pumping this company. I'm like, what are they going to do? Make it up in volume? I mean, it's one thing to lose money. It's another thing, you know, when you actually have negative gross margins, right? And so I would quiz him on all these things. But I remember at some point there was this other banker, his name was Kent F. We're trying to raise money and they don't care.

I'm talking about what our business model is and everything else. And the only thing they cared about was who our VCs were that were in the deal. And I was actually told at one point that we weren't losing enough money per month to go public. At one point, the metric that was important to go public is you had to have a high enough burn rate to be able to justify raising enough money. This is how insane. So I'm saying this to you to say this. When it comes to the investments, when it comes to what your advisor is going to tell you, what your stockbroker is going to tell you, what an analyst is going to tell you, they will lie, cheat, and steal to pump their VC,

Ivy League school friends' companies and dump those on retail and dump those on pension funds and dump it on whoever they can't. All day long. All day long. That doesn't mean there's a technology bubble. It means we have capital markets that have never had any integrity. So it wouldn't matter. They will do this with whatever the hot category is. So most of these things are going to fail because this is part of the normal process. I mean, most things do fail. That's not necessarily a bad thing. This is a creative destruction learning process, so on and so forth. But particularly when there is a frothy technology bubble... um yeah they'll get all of their friends

because i got involved with the dot-com thing in like this was you know like i remember mark andreessen was on the front cover of time magazine didn't wear shoes and i was like at the time this was before the the bubble part of it happened and when the bubble part of it happened you had people from harvard business school coming in and starting companies as ceos that had absolutely ridiculous business models that were losing money but they're Business school friends that were venture capitalists would fund it, and it would go through this pipeline through investment banks. So when we're talking about the AI bubble, chances are if you're looking at this from an investment perspective and your

broker's pitching you a stock, yeah, you're probably going to lose money. But that doesn't mean that AI is not going to fundamentally transform the economy. I think it'll be a hundred X or more what the internet was in terms of transforming what what happens and so so now i'm wondering like what to do about the fact that people are really adamant there are a lot of people a lot of people that i know um that i agree with on most other issues but their whole big thing is just to rag on the fact that ai is a bubble or a fat and i'm trying to figure out what to do about this because this has become a dominant part of their narrative so if your thing is that ai is

going to crash the economy okay so what So what do you propose? What do you think is going to happen? Do you think people are not going to adopt AI? Are you suggesting people shouldn't invest in AI? What is the point of people pushing that narrative? what are people supposed to do with that theme or that information? And I, cause I'm genuinely perplexed because I see it and I'm like, for a lot of, most of the time when people say that they've never used AI, they don't, they're like, they don't actually have direct experience with the technology, but why is this narrative so popular? And, and, And it gains a lot of traction. These posts get a lot of traction. Calling AI a bubble,

you'll get a lot of positive response on that. You'll get a lot of retweets on that. Well, and they like it out there because, you know, you'll hear every day, Peter Thiel dropped his share of NVIDIA. You know, you'll hear... You know, Michael Burry, right? The big short. He's shorting NVIDIA and Tesla. And he's saying how obvious it is. And so I think he's in that camp of, you know, the... I haven't heard him say anything about it being vaporware. I haven't heard anything to that level. I've just heard that when you look at OpenAI, Sam Altman, the amount of money being spent and the revenues coming in just doesn't add up on a balance sheet perspective.

That's where I think they're coming from. But then you have to factor in does open AI be anthropic to the IPO market, right? Because they're both going to go from a private to a public in the rate and they're in a race for it because you know, it's going to be same thing. The first one to get there is going to get the spoils, right? They're going to get the runner, assuming the market again, what are the market conditions at the time? But if the, but the, but if the, you know, if people are neutral to positive on the market and, that's going to be hyped it's going to be a big deal wall street's going to get behind it they're going to push that the media is going to push it and

you're going to get this big influx and open ai and it's going to solve a lot of that gap you know so or anthropic you know with these tensile processing units right that have just come on strong so i think that there's you know we're starting to see this broad now okay it's not just nvidia and you know we can draw i was going to pull i've been working on this map you showing all the different components, right? NVIDIA at the center and all the circular financing. And it is getting concocted. It's not easy to sort your way through what's going on. Leasing this chip to XAI and XAI is doing this. I mean, it's pretty complicated. And I've been trying to do it in layers.

So you can actually see these things stack on top of each other and you can see the references. So there's definitely some Wall Street and craftiness going into this whole operation. But when you see these markets go, again, back to debt, when you see these things go for debt, when you look at something like Oracle, I mean, the debt has no problem going through. So... The markets still seem to be, you know, look, credit spreads, you know, we just talked about corporate debt. We look at these credit spreads. They're pretty tight, Aaron. They're still really tight. And that tells us that, you know, that people are one of two things. Either they don't sense fear or they're asleep at the wheel.

One of those two things, right? And so I think what's happening is I don't, I don't hear vaporware. I think that's sort of anybody who's in that camp, I think is sort of, they're not paying enough close enough attention and they haven't done enough experimentation with things or they're not paying close enough attention. I think the next thing is how much of a accounting scandal is going on and how are they moving money and why are they doing this? And you've mentioned that in some of the technocracy roundtables, that it's a race, you know, because winner take all, you know? And so I think that's part of why the spend is going on and why they're doing this.

But you get anthropic with these TPUs and how much does that displace NVIDIA's You know, we're still trying to sort that out in position? the markets. So I think the big takeaway for me is Um, can Michael Burry be right? Can he call some bubbles are again, back to our chaos theory. There are going to be things that are going to get hammered, right? There are going to be things that get destroyed and they're going to get destroyed quickly. I mean, they might be here today and gone in two or three months that fast. You know, these companies just poof gone because something displaces them. But that doesn't mean that this AI isn't going to forge forward and that it isn't going to get, you know,

that it isn't going to get inroads. in all kinds of places and achieve what you're talking about, a hundred X, what the internet was. So I, I mean, I'm just trying to, you know, connect the dots. I don't think, I think a lot of people can be right. And I think yet a lot of people will be wrong and how this whole thing. So everyone will be able to claim, well, I was right on this. I was right on that. And then I think everybody can be shot down and say, well, he was wrong on this and he was wrong on that. And he was wrong on this. I think it's going to be really hard to get everything correct. Moving through this, just be prepared for chaos. and trying to catch the themes you know

again if someone's you know from an investing perspective it's going to be difficult it's going to be hard to track this stuff and you're going to have to be on your game from just an overall you know what's going on in this market space and solution oriented which is i think where we're headed tonight is you know what are the solutions here how do we how do we solve our way through this how do we anticipate what are the what are the canaries in the coal mine what are we watching for you know, where people are trying to protect assets or be that entrepreneur that's trying to start something up and grow this, you know, this AI corporate, you know, this AI, you know, what's the right word?

Parallel solution or... Parallel solution and ecosystem, right? Your own ecosystem, your own environment. I guess that's really the word I'm looking for is trying to grow an environment that can lead to huge productivity gains. I don't think you really have to worry that much about it, really. I don't know what anyone's concern would I mean, be. You're operating in your own little space. This thing can blow up. You don't really care. maybe chips get cheaper because no one I mean, else is buying them. I mean, right? Yeah. Well, again, my point is, and I don't own any stocks. I don't own any bonds. I wouldn't invest in any of those financial instruments. Again,

my perspective is the whole market is rigged. But the point that I'm trying to make is that AI CapEx contributed one point one percent of. GDP and in twenty twenty five people were calling for recessions. One of the only things that's kept the economy rolling at all is AI. So I guess what I'm going back to is when people say that AI is going to crash the economy, I don't think it's going to crash the economy, but I think the economy would have already crashed were it not for AI based on what was going what's going on outside of AI. so i don't think that it's necessarily that it's a bubble that's going to cause it to collapse if anything it bought more time more time because that's not even

necessarily a good thing i don't think the longer this charade goes on the better because that's you end up with you know too big to fail ubi and technocracy the longer this goes on the worse right if if we had a market collapse now then maybe the technocrats aren't ready every day that goes by it gives them the opportunity to seed You know, for much to go on there and talk about, it's not going to be universal basic income, it's universal super income. And, you know, no one's going to have to work in twenty years and the robots are going to do everything and we're not even going to need currency. Right. Again, this is the propaganda. He controls the largest propaganda force

and it's all glorifying him and it's all glorifying technocracy. And I think that's fairly disgusting. But yeah, I mean, as to what to invest in, yeah, nobody can predict. Absolutely no. I actually think that whoever the big winner is might not even be a company yet. I actually think that because I do think that there are huge advantages to not being first. Being first is usually the hard way to go. I mean, I've experienced usually I'm doing stuff first and you have to figure this stuff out. But if you figure this stuff out, the next guy can come in and just take everything that you've learned and run with it without the baggage. Because usually to figure stuff out first

costs a lot of money and takes a lot of time. And then you put some stuff in, infrastructure that you have to then pivot from. If somebody can just come in and say, I'm going to steal that idea without any of the bullshit, then that makes it easier. I mean, from a... more of my money goes to Anthropic than I'll tell you, any of the others, simply because it is the dominant model for coding, and it's not even close. I mean, whatever anybody has to say about it, whatever Musk tries to say, nobody's using Grok for coding. He's using Grok for coding, which is why they're high up in the leadership boards, not because other people are using it, but it is a phenomenal model for coding.

And I was wrong about the fact that I thought Anthropic... Musk was kind of positioning for whatever their new model may be. I mean, they're certainly going at a quick rate, but I actually think that Anthropic may time it better. And I don't use ChatGPT. I don't use ChatGPT for coding. In fact, I don't use ChatGPT or OpenAI for anything anymore. I have a bunch of APIs and I use whatever the best thing is and they're not the best at anything. There's no reason to use chat GPT, which is why he just issued what a red warning or whatever they call it. Code red. Sam Altman just issued a code red. So I don't know how to pick winners and losers or whatever it's, but I know that I'm going to use

whatever the best thing is right now. It's anthropic, but that, but again, markets change, change over time. But I think that, that the people that are like, Oh, I'm not going to invest in the entire category. I wouldn't necessarily invest in learning And again, how these things work. I don't care which stocks you buy. But if you're like, the bubble is going to burst and there's going to be no AI left out of it, that is false. I will guarantee you that that is not what the conclusion is. when you see the comments on these posts, And by the way, when people say it's a bubble, the comments are... Yeah, companies aren't getting an ROI. I've never used it or I tried it. Oh,

It doesn't really do anything. Again, read the comments on that. Those people are flat out wrong and are going to be in a really bad position for holding that view. Yep. So again, AI investments are pretty much what are keeping the lights on. And by the way, this is the other thing that's interesting. This is somewhat unique about this technology cycle. Usually when there's a technology cycle, you have startups that are venture funded, right? These are new companies that have to get outside funding. The interesting thing about this whole scenario is it's mostly large pre-existing tech companies that are bankrolling all of So it's not like it's... this.

This isn't widows and orphans that are spending their money on this. This is companies that are already wildly profitable in most cases that are spending their money on this. So that's actually quite a bit different. And of course, you as the individual investor will only get to buy it when it's a trillion dollar plus market cap. So that's just the nature of you getting screwed by the SEC. and wall street and everybody else so right out of the gates if your only opportunity to buy these things is after all of the insiders have been able to make their ten thousand x returns you're already disadvantaged and by the way you won't even own the voting rights to the

thing that you buy anyway that's so that that that is what it is but big tech capital expenditures on this two hundred and twelve billion dollars in twenty twenty four up to three hundred and sixty one billion dollars this year And a lot of this data center investment offset consumer spending and manufacturing weakness. I mean, this is true because when you actually talk to the average person, I don't know a single general person that I mean, thinks the economy is going well at all, right? In fact, most people are getting absolutely crushed by inflation. So it literally, and there have been multiple people that have said AI has kept the economy out of a recession.

This has been stated multiple times, certainly by any number of investment banks from Deutsche Bank and others on down the line. And then the other piece of this is, I mean, there is a productivity boost. So before AI, productivity was stuck at one point two percent increase annually, kind of since the two thousand and eight collapse. And now productivity is growing overall at two percent. And industries using AI are seeing five to thirty percent output per worker gains. And I was telling Craig this, the whole thing about AI is you have to start and it's all about incremental improvements. And it goes through this period where you

start to use things. I've started many projects and then I've I mean, abandoned them or I got stuck on something and I keep a whole bunch of stuff but you keep at it, going. And then all of a sudden, you keep trying new things, new models, and then all of a sudden something will hit. And then all of a sudden in like seventy two hours, a whole bunch of stuff that you've been working on comes together. It's just part of that creative process of being involved in using it. But what I'm seeing right now is the compound impact. All of the effort of working on this stuff is now finally coming together. And now I'm getting to the point where it's like I said, I'll be able to spend about a half

an hour on a podcast. And then the time that I will spend on the podcast is doing the research and thinking through what to talk about. And of course, the research now, I mean, I've got a thing that uses my own database. It uses multiple AIs. Then it calls from real-time data through multiple sources. And then it uses multiple different things. And then it can automate because, again, this is part of what you go through. what is my process for doing a podcast? Well, research all of this stuff and then I Well, I cross-check this and then I try to put together some themes and ideas and synthesize some information to put it together and then I try to lay it out and everything else.

That takes a lot of time or at least historically that's taken a lot of time. But you start playing with these tools and you realize, hey, this thing can get all of the real-time information on this if I just ask the question in the right way and I can have it pull that information in whatever format I want and then I can have this take this information and then I can put together an outline and out of it, and then I can have visuals that are made now that have no errors from a text perspective, which obviously if you've been watching this show, I realize, am I going to spend ten minutes trying to regenerate this one image now that people will understand what's going on here?

Now I don't even have to worry about Now the text... that. The text is perfect. So it's like, okay, cool. So anyway, so even as companies are starting to implement these things, yeah, if you are implementing chat GPT-GPT-GPT-GPT-GPT-GPT-GPT-GPT-GPT-GPT-GPT-GPT-GPT-GPT-GPT-GPT-GPT-GPT-GPT-GPT-GPT-GPT-GPT-GPT-GPT-GPT-GPT-GPT-GPT-GPT-GPT-GPT-GPT-GPT-GPT But once you get that environment set up, once you get everything fine tuned and you get your environment down, then the productivity gains really hit. So I think you're going to see that happening a lot where you're going to see the cumulative effects of the improvement in the AI and then people learning how to use it.

Then you're going to reach some critical mass point. And I think that critical mass point is twenty twenty six. I don't even think it's twenty twenty seven because I because again, from my own experience, it's been just a breakthrough in the last three weeks. Well, again, back to the small cap sector, it would be very fascinating to see if this actually does – whether it has anything to do with the administration's policies of depreciation schedules and tax situations and all the things that they're trying to do to – Does this come through in the small cap sector? Because really, like we were saying, I think there's the one side where the big corporations will pick up things on

the cheap, things that fail. But on the other side, you're going to see the real innovation starting to take place. Is it going to happen in small companies that are twenty, thirty, forty people? And because they can move more quickly and they have more of a directive, they're much more clear on where they're headed. They have a clear focus point and they know what they're trying to get to. I mean, that's always been the recipe, right? Aaron, you know, your outcome, you know what you're trying to get to and you figure out what's the quickest path to get there. And so now you start engaging all these tools and you start, like you said, you know, Dead end, dead end, dead end.

And then in seventy two hours, boom, a lot of things come together. You know, is that the kind of same kind of mentality that happens in these small cap stocks? And does the market start to pick that I know maybe you're not a big fan I mean, up? of the markets, but I still am a believer that these markets do tell you a lot. They know a lot of things that go on. And, you know, so I still look to them for. I looked at them way before I looked at any of the media, long before I looked to the media, look at markets long before there. So anyway, so that's kind of how I see it. You know, I, I think it's chaos, but I do think that what you're talking about could be picked up on that small

mid cap stock and we could see them take off. Yeah, you could. I mean, I'm not I'm a fan of markets. I just don't know if what we would call what we have markets based on how how they actually work and how trading actually works. But I'm certainly a big fan of a voluntary exchange. And I think we have an opportunity to create to create new markets. But I think your point is is spot on i mean look look for wherever there's innovation and and by the way this is the whole part of the problem innovation doesn't usually come from big companies because of regulation because of process because of bureaucracy the only but it does come from there through government contracts and through

cronyism that's typically where you see that and so you at this point you don't really want to see that right uh and this is the risk with ai right the risk with ai is I don't want to see one of these things where President Trump is with the CEO of Google and the CEO of Microsoft and Elon Musk. Whenever I see that, I'm like, we're about to get screwed. We're about to see some kind of national thing where at the end of it, People are going to lose their rights and we're going to have something forced on us from the top down in the interest of national defense. And once they categorize something as national defense, then we essentially lose our constitutional rights, whatever we have anyway.

Right. But, yeah, I think you're going to see small companies. And again, but to me, and this is actually the area that most I'm most interested in, which, of course, most people can't access. But, well, you can if you're clever about it. It's startups that, from scratch... I'll give you an example of some things. Anybody that uses Salesforce.com or Oracle NetSuite or any of these big programs, these software programs suck. I mean, my company was one of the first companies in two thousand and four. We were really early user of Salesforce. These things are like bloated, hard to use, hard to configure, expensive. Then you have to bring in consultants.

You know what I've learned more like more often when I just write my own software now with AI. and you're going to find and by the way a big company couldn't do that a big company is sitting there well how do we onboard new people to the system and then you look at how their their flow works for sales for contracts and everything else it's like that's a real obstacle to fix like that's a gigantic you know area of inefficiency that's hard to get out of and then you have multi-year contracts and service agreements and everything else so i think new companies uh new companies and small companies uh have have real potential for this and people that are applying ai in

a real novel way to solve problems but i mean i can see a lot of software companies I saw somebody on my X feed was like, man, Elon got ripped off. He paid forty one million dollars for Twitter and he showed himself creating in like an hour with a time lapse thing, a complete clone of Twitter. He's like, I could have done it for you for, you know, in an hour. but was literally able to kind of duplicate the functionality of that. It is actually getting to that point where it is that easy. You can actually say to the AI, go and reverse engineer this because it'll go look at the code and it will look at how it's built and then it can just literally replicate and improve upon it.

So software companies are going to be, I think software companies could get crushed So that's my, a lot of software companies could get what is your edge going to be if crushed. Like, you're running a software company that's not AI? But then the other question is, you know, again, when you talk about AI, so this is the thing. For me, I actually commented about this with Rumble. It's like, if your company doesn't have an API, if you don't have a way for me to be able to integrate with your software through APIs, having to manually use software, I think I use this as an example. I was using this thing for my podcast recently. called red circle and it's basically a

distribution platform that puts it on spotify and all these other things well the time involved i have to take my audio files i have to make them smaller i have to come up with descriptions and everything else it's like it takes me like an hour to do this and so this is why my my podcasts are delayed they're like episodes behind because it's like okay to spend an hour per episode to do this I've been waiting for a solution. So I just switched to another platform where I could automate the entire process. And now when the show's done, I take my transcript file from StreamYard, drop it, and then it gets automatically uploaded and all of the files get resized and

all the images and then the show notes and everything. It's an automated process that takes an hour that saves an hour a week now, two hours a week because it's two podcasts. So I think you're going to see interesting things with software. Anytime somebody's job, if it's using software manually, that will go away. Yeah. Well, like you said, the big companies like Salesforce and these other ones, how they suck, the small companies weren't able to do this in the past either because they don't have the big IT departments. So they're sort of hampered as big and as cumbersome as the big companies are and as messy and as bloated as that software gets and the hardware and software and the

whole combination of everything. the small companies didn't have the team Now they do, right? to do it. That's what's changing here. You know what I mean? Now they can, one or two sharp IT people can make a lot of headway for a small company, like a lot. Or you don't even need IT people. You actually get, the thing is it's blurring the lines where you don't need the IT people as even the buffer between translating what you want as a business requirement out of technology and the delivery of the technology. So, so I would look for, so I, IT people need to be adaptive and embrace Because there's also another concern of IT AI. people. I see a lot of IT people poo-pooing AI.

They're like, oh, well, you can't use AI for coding or whatever. Now it becomes another one of these badge of honor things. Kind of like, oh, well, we want to make this technology hard to So that's kind of for our own club. use. But those people are going to find that that's not a... viable strategy like if you're if you're a coder and you're avoiding using ai that's there's going to come a point where that's not even remotely tenable yep i think it's getting there you know i mean I work with a couple of programmers that helped me do some stuff and they've been using it and they're like, wow, it's some of the cleanest code I've ever seen, you know, and they used to outsource things to

different groups. And, you know, I mean, obviously this whole H-B visa thing with India has become a, you know, obviously a hot button over the last couple of months. And I don't even think people need it anymore. Really, you know, someone who can, they don't need to outsource it. You know, someone who understands, I do think that there's still a need for IT. Not that many people are, I, I, there's a there's a certain group of people who are to have every you know to have all parts and pieces of the package that you need understanding marketing understanding finance understanding you know enough to troubleshoot things when they don't work you know whether it's a you know operating

system or uh whatever and then to be able to ask the questions and have enough background knowledge that's not not everyone has that skill set you know it's those are those people are far and few between and you've had that background so you have that skill set I still think you need IT people to help when something breaks, they just don't even know how to fix it. They might know how to do the specific things they know how to do. if someone's a marketing genius, For instance, they could probably write programs that help them do marketing, you know, like, you know, put together marketing packages and things like that and put a whole, you know, a whole package together for people.

But I think that, you know, to have that whole package of being able to understand how to operating systems and fight your way through plugging, even just plugging in all the equipment, you know, like getting that getting that raid drive system that you have. That's not easy. Most people need like a tech department to You know what I mean? help them with stuff. They don't know how to troubleshoot that stuff. You know what I mean? I still think that is an issue. A lot of people don't have that skill set. It is. But what I'm saying is the kinds of companies that are going to. So it's getting to the point now where the best practices are being bundled together so that you can create a virtual

organization. It's like, all right, again, I want to find out who the best person is at marketing. It's like this has been now a document. I'm bringing in a repeatable skill set and the skill sets are not just tech. The skill sets are branding, marketing, customer service is obviously being completely replaced. If you look at what's going on with Eleven Labs and you get the workflow done, I mean, people will complain about call centers being outsourced to India. You're not going to be hearing anybody with an Indian accent doing call centers in twenty four months. um because that's just a question of getting the workflow right and then creating your own database of questions

and answers and it's not just a tree right that we use or used to now it's like oh yeah you know call a bank or whatever and if you have this query press three right you could recreate a customer service phone system that a bank has in five minutes and it would be better Because then what you essentially can do is log every question and answer pair, and then you can have a front-end interface where you're talking to a voice, and the voice is able to pull from every question and every answer that's ever come about, right? That's already happening. I think we all kind of expect that I mean, all centers are going to go away, but I'm saying this from the standpoint of...

when you think about what will be automated out of existence and then you start thinking about people's jobs the whole workflow can be automated most of these workflows can be automated and so it's going to come down to companies are they're just automated sets of business processes um and it's not that they're programming themselves but you're using programming to automate whatever the business process is so again i i just i would encourage people If you don't like your job and it looks like it's one of the ones that's on the chopping block, then now's a good time to start thinking about what it is you want to do and acquiring those skills. Because this is going to come really fast.

Rachel said, I tried a few branding AIs and they suck. Yeah, most of the tools suck. You can create your own branding team. And you'd be like, you know, I created a branding team. I was working on the Daylight stuff. I'm like, all right, I ended up with, you know, Leonardo da Vinci, Frank Lloyd Wright, Joni Ivey from Apple, and a couple of other people having an interesting... And the guy who did the Pink Floyd artwork, that kind of vibe. So I'm just like, all right, well, let's see what these... Because these people know more about branding and this kind of thing. And then I researched who's good at branding. If you're using an off-the-shelf... AI, then they're basically giving you a

template for branding. It's better than doing it yourself. It's better than manual. But my point is, yes, people are not necessarily going to do but what I'm doing is going to become what I'm doing, packaged. Those are going to become modules that everyone can use. That's what's going on with human knowledge. So you're able to kind of pick up these best practices from all kinds of disciplines on how to do just about anything. Anyway, I don't know. I want to have Mike on because I want to think through predictions for twenty twenty six, which which I will tell you up front, they'll ninety percent be wrong. At least I don't I do not claim to have any crystal ball.

In fact, at least I know. But but what I do know is. what I will say is this, it will go faster and the breakthroughs will be significantly bigger than anybody thinks next year. Because we're now at the level of where I'm seeing how the AIs can connect with one another, connect knowledge and start putting the information together. We're starting to see breakthroughs in science and math. We're starting to see fundamental breakthroughs on things that will question what we think we know about reality. That will be twenty twenty six. This is this is not way off in the future i mean musk's new i new thing is coming out well version four point two is coming out i

don't know maybe today but version five of whatever he's putting together. they already have these things that I mean, they're at the top level kind of IQ in every scientific category, you know, whatever the highest PhD is in each of the scientific disciplines. and they're now every day I see like And this, in my feed, they've, they've solved, they're breaking through, you know, on these tests of intelligence in different categories. The records are all getting crushed. I mean, it's not plateauing either. There are a lot of people that said, oh, this LLM model, it's going to die at some point because you can't just keep throwing money or data centers at the problem. And they're not.

They're finding different ways of solving the problem. And then, of course, the AI is then solving different ways to So you're going to see... solve AI. compound effects next year that I can't predict, but that are going to be kind of Yeah, I can see that. mind boggling. It makes sense. the big thing is to just jump in, Like you said, you know, you gotta, if you have an idea, jump in and give it a shot, see if you can't make some headway in you know, it. Once you make a little bit of headway, once you break through the ice, I think then it's, uh, it's like anything, right? You know, you start gaining knowledge and, and, uh, And, you know, you can bang your head against the wall.

I'm sure you felt this way, where you bang your head against the wall for two, three weeks on something, feel like you're making no progress, then all of a sudden, out of nowhere, kind of get lucky a little bit, right? And then you break through. I mean, at least I've seen that with a lot of the development stuff I've done. It just hasn't been in this space yet. But I'm interested to give it a shot and jump in there, too. So... Well, it's either that, you pound your head, or that a new model comes out. The thing for me is, every day a new model comes out, I'm like, all right, well, to try it, all I have to do is plug in the API into whatever it is that I'm doing and test it out.

And what I've seen in different AI models, like... Images have evolved. So now there's Nano Banana Pro, which is Google's AI model, which finally solved text. That, you know, Right. because I would do these things where I'd create images and I'd want to put the AaronDayShow.com watermark on it. And then it would drop one of the A's and would do all this other stuff. And it was just it was annoying. Right. Now, perfect with text. It's actually an amazing model. Seventy two hours later, Seedream four point five came out. The models are evolving rapidly. for video, where now your ability to edit in a face into a video. So now there are workflows where it's

like, I take this picture, then I can convert the picture into a video, and then I can edit in a face. And then you're figuring out how to automate that process. So it's a multi-step process. You're pulling different models. Well, literally every week. So today, probably not gonna do it tonight, I'm too tired tonight, but Microsoft released a new text-to-speech model. that's open source that you can download. So there's this thing called Eleven Labs, which is what I would use for, I've used it for cloning my own voice. I gave it a bunch of hours of my own voice and it's really good. My wife thinks she can detect the difference, but I'm gonna test you on it. I think I'll get you,

I tested you on the Eleven Labs, but it's expensive. You couldn't use it for if you were going to try to convert e-books to it or whatever, it'd be like twenty bucks, thirty bucks per e-book or whatever. This Microsoft thing I can run on my on my NVIDIA computer and it's the latency is only three hundred milliseconds. So I showed the interactive chat thing on That was now a couple of months ago. here. I should bring back the development since then because we're now at the point where. where you can get nearly like real time. We're talking three hundred milliseconds is is how real time the text to speech is. So you're not waiting for something to generate anymore.

And now video is catching up to that and the integration of that. So so again, all of that's happened since I did the podcast on here where I showed people that Christopher Hitchens and and all of those other things, that's light years ahead of that. In fact, I'll do an episode on that. Maybe when I have Mike on, I'll show people you know bring back that episode and show what that version of it was and show what the episode is now and then realize hey that was two months ago right so this is what i'm saying next year you know and where i think with this is like okay i'm automating all my workflows and everything just because i want to be able to work on building these parallel

solutions but then what's the next iteration of this where is this where is this really going when you can create your own books you'll be able to create your own books your own movies whatever your learning style is people learn differently Some are auditory, some are visual, whatever it happens to be. You're going to be able to have custom learning environments based on custom sets of data. What that opens up is really phenomenal. provided you're using the technology in Again, If you're expecting to get information out that way. of ChatGPT or Grok, understand that... Somebody else decided what to train their AI model on, and then they decided how they were going

to present that information to you. And these are the same people that censored the internet. These are the same people that were part of the censorship industrial complex during COVID. So I wouldn't be too excited about that being what liberates us. But this other stuff's pretty cool. Well, how do we move from that, Aaron? Like, so let's say someone has been using, Claude or they've been using chat GPT or you know, anthropic or, you know, whatever. And so now they want to advance or they want to go to the next step. Like what, what would you say? Like, can you walk through a step, a process of like how someone would, would say, okay, I know how to get to that.

I know how to plug in questions. I put pretty good prompts in there. I can push it pretty hard. What's the next step for them? Do you think? It depends on what it is. So this is why I've got this. I showed this earlier, this above phone. So I actually think this is going to be potentially an important thing for us for next year to onboard people. If you can get a phone that is de-Googled, that has Mike Adams AI on the phone, has a VPN on the phone, has a Zeno wallet on the phone, then you have right out of the gates something that can get you into the privacy ecosystem and get you into... get you into using AI that's uncensored. Mike's AI is really important because of

the data that it's trained on. You can ask it to do things that, you can ask it how to assemble guns. You can ask it how to do a whole bunch of things that you literally just can't get responses from. It is like having a complete library in your pocket. So if you just want to make sure that you have information at your disposal so that even if the internet is shut off, you're not without information, that would be the next step. I see somebody says, I'm liking Perplexity, GPT-Five and Cloud. So again, I use APIs, but if I'm trying to do research and I need recent data, I use Perplexity and Grok to pull that information because you need to be able to get new information.

The other AIs are actually trained up to a certain point. And after that point that they've been trained, the data is not new. Now, some of these models now can call search, but it depends on which model you're using, which search they're using, and you don't really have a lot of control over that. But I would start with that. I would start with Mike's. Now, again, you mentioned this earlier. I thought Anthropic would struggle based This is where I was wrong. on the fundraising capabilities of Grok and some of the other models. That turns out not to be true. This coding thing that they have is a real business. I pay them a lot of money. I pay Grok quite a bit.

I pay Anthropocene a bit of money. Or excuse me, And a lot of people do. And the ROI is one hundred percent worth it. It's not even close. I would even pay more because if I can one hundred X my productivity, I don't have to hire a developer. What's that worth? It's actually worth. hundreds of thousands of dollars a month i mean there's actually that much value out of it but then i play around with um something that i play around with that you might want to consider are two things one is venice.ai Venice is it was created by a guy that I that I know in the Liberty community who was early in Bitcoin, actually. And this is a it's private.

So so he doesn't hold any of your information. In fact, it was just released today that, you know. I think ChatGPT was required to give up a whole bunch of information on tons of users related to copyright. So they're trying to see about copyright violations. And so OpenAI lost in court. And now they've had to hand over a bunch of, it was de-anonymized information. But nevertheless, understand, Grok has said this too, or Musk has said this, but Grok has backed it up if you ask it. Based on the contracts with these big AIs, they can come after and subpoena the information from your search history. So you have to understand that.

So if you're looking for sensitive information, So this is Venice.ai, and they have a whole bunch of different models here, and they're constantly integrating an interesting combination of uncensored models. There's always an uncensored model. The base model is uncensored. But then he does bring in other models He brings in the bigger models. as well. But this is a good one if you want to use the bigger models, but you want privacy. You don't want to have your information as part of a subpoena process. So I recommend Venus AI as a great way to explore So it's kind of like a VPN in a sense. I mean, it's a buffer. You could look at it as like a VPN in a way.

Another one that I'm playing around with is Okara. O-K-A-R-A. And this is basically also private. Excuse me. But they have largely... Hold on one second. They have largely open source models and a lot of the Chinese models, which, by the way, in this whole thing, the irony is that the Chinese models are open source and the U.S. models are not. My theory is that probably by next year, China will overtake the U.S. on AI. Some of these models are...

sorry, are already, they're already right at the same level as chat GPT. In fact, they have this one model, Kimmy K two thinking at like issue, it has like, like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, you know, like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, like, like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, In short,

the answer is whatever I say today, chances are it will change entirely like So I'm telling you in advance, too. ninety days from now. I used to do this with crypto. I mean, I wrote my first book. I'm like, here are the cryptos you should buy and here are the exchanges. And I'm like, wow, that book is way out of date. So I had to re-update the book. But then I'm finally like, look, I'm just going to provide a link and then just tell people up front. It would be absurd to put in a printed book what is going on with this. But I'm showing you this just to say. I'm trying to verify this email, I apologize, that there are so many models out there And there's a thing called hugging face

all of the time. that you can go to where you can access these models through an API. And so then there are people that will take these models and then they'll train, if the model has kind of what are called open weights, they'll train a model on a different set of data so that it kind of reacts and works in a different way. But if you want to get started, Venice.ai is a good one. Mike's BrightU.ai is a good one. It's called, but it's now that. And then Okara, which is a good way for you to get access to the... to the chinese models and um so here we go so you can so here it has so these are the big open source

models that they have they have deep seek kimmy k-tooth thinking glm which a lot of people use for coding quen three next thinking so a lot of these are you know you can break these down by the model type so there are different models that do different things some that are good for thinking some that are good for visualization some that are multi-modal so that they can deal with text and images and graphics so there are all these different categories of these things and so you know again as you start to explore this you realize well i'm going to use this model for for this purpose this model for that purpose and then one thing that i really like is um higgsfield.ai so if you're interested

in doing images and video this is the cutting edge for this they have all of the most up-to-date models the minute they come out so i don't even have to mess around with a lot of stuff with this i know that the day a new model comes out this is where I go to get it. And so this is for, you know, everything from images to doing video to upscaling images. And then they have the different applications that you might want to do with these things. So apps. So if you want to, you know, as you can see here, enhance skin, cut a clip. Do various techniques. I mean, this is a great go-to place if you want to get involved with all of those

And I'll put in the field this. things. In fact, now that I'm asking you guys this, It's like, well, maybe I could do I've thought about this. training thing on this. It moves so fast. This is why often I just am like, all right, well, here's what I'm working on. Because if I were to spend time putting together a formal thing on it, it would be out of date. That is truly how fast this is going. But it's also why when I say... That next year, it's going to be just orders of magnitude different. I'm saying it because just of how quickly it is evolving. And now it's the point where literally every single day, every single day, there's a new model that's state-of-the-art, that's cutting edge.

And so this is for this. If you're looking at... Audio, this is the most expensive, but it's the best. And this is the thing with a lot of these things. It's like, depending upon the application, you're going to want to use whatever the best thing is, but you can use the second best thing or the third best thing for nearly free. So that's essentially... What's going on here? But this allows you to use voices. They have dozens and dozens of voices that you can select or you can actually clone your own voice, which is what I've done. And you can do this a couple of different ways. When I did that Christopher Hitchens that was based on like ten seconds of thing, audio.

or maybe thirty seconds of audio. And that's the quality that it got. You have to prove that it's you. If you're going to do the really high-end thing, you actually have to sign a thing saying that it's your voice, and you have to actually do a voice So if I gave it a couple of print. hours in my video audio content, and then it asked me to speak in, read a few phrases to make sure that my voice matched the voice on the files that I uploaded. But this is today the highest end on that. But there are all kinds of free models for doing if you're willing to wait for a delay to have the thing converted to voice. There are multiple open source free models for text to voice.

So that's kind of a quick overview. But like I said, every day Um, it's new and every day, uh, new records are being broken. The technology itself is not slowing down So for the people that say, oh, at all. it's the technology is at a dead end and it's just, you know, it's all about the more data centers is the only way that this will work. That's, that's not actually true. In fact, most of these Chinese models, uh, are, are much, much more efficient. Uh, audio, she said the, the, the best one is it's eleven labs. I'll put it in there. Eleven labs. What do you think, Aaron, in terms of like if your audience or if we found, you know, ten, fifteen,

thirty people that got interested in this, twenty, you know, like you said, you know, they're about to lose their job. They've got a little money saved up. They're going to go down this road, see if they can't get something going. They've got an idea. is there you think it's worth putting together some sort of a you know like a community site where you know one you're doing this show but you get something back for it you know what i mean because someone else is like hey aaron did you try this right like some kind of a bulletin board i guess is a maybe a crude way of putting it where you know if you found a group of people who were you know and they're just putting

stuff up there all the time where it's you know and it's again around technocracy right it's that kind of a theme instead of just random you know I mean, obviously our goal here is to develop some sort of privacy commerce. Not everything around AI is gonna be focused on that. We're in a little tiny subcategory of that, hoping that it grows and that this expands out to be, a large percent of the, you know, ten percent of the population starts to figure out that privacy is important. You know, imagine that, right? But is there, do you ever have any thoughts like that, some sort of a bulletin board where we can actually, you know, aggregate thoughts and ideas? if they find something innovative,

And that way, you're like, oh, thanks. You know what I mean? That was helpful to me, so. So I would, um, I would say that that's probably where what freedom forge is going to morph into freedom, in a, in some way. Um, in the sense that what I'd like to do is, uh, In the context of being able to create businesses that are privacy alternatives to the technocratic threats, if there would be a way to teach people how to vibe code and teach people how to do what I'm doing, that to me is probably a really good use of time. I would love to duplicate. I would love to see more people... doing what I'm doing and figure out a way to show people how to do what

I'm doing in a context that actually is meaningful for them. So if you can realize, oh, okay, if I learn these tools, then I could create a food marketplace. I could create an energy marketplace. I could do this. I could do this. I think that the context should be probably coding for building parallel I don't know how to do that yet. systems. Like I haven't thought that through, but it certainly would be, I think it'd be really high value. And the thing is this, so one of the things I'm trying to express with this is that it gets to the point where, and this is absolutely true as I go through this, it's I can't hand any of this off, right? So it's not like it's something...

I can't hand any of these projects off to someone because it's just not the way that it works. It's a fully integrated thing. And once you have your environment set off, it's not like I can say, well, why don't you manage this piece of the hey, code? Because you're not... You're automating the processes of even testing the code. I'm down to the point right now where I spent a lot of time this weekend doing boring stuff, which was like, okay, do I have my backups right? Have I done penetration testing? Have I done boring things right? And so I started to set up a whole list of objects and everything for that, like reproducible code fragments. So I couldn't hand off one of these

sites for someone else. to vibe code. That's how efficient it becomes. And that's how, because you realize it's like, okay, it would take me longer to explain to someone how to do this than it would be to automate it. That is actually the true analysis. It's not like, cause I've even thought about it. I was trying to work on something at one point with my son and I'm like, God, it'll take me longer to explain how to do this. than to do it. And then when I've explained it to you, that's not actually going to help you manage the thing because you can't break the thing off into different pieces. And so somehow it's just, there's got to be a way to transfer, you know,

maybe setting up the environments. I mean, you know, maybe being able to give people like a kickstart where here's your environment for your website with, you know, I don't know, maybe the database is already set up and some of the things are already pre-configured. And maybe there's some things like that that could be done, but it would be, I would like to do something like that on the VibeCoder front. I know Mike is going to try to put together an event that I'll be at, maybe Hakeem and some other people to just showcase different aspects of what's going on. In fact, it came out of our... when I had him on because it was like he was really excited about the

podcast that we had because we both realized that we've been learning a lot of the same things. We've been coming to a lot of the And it's like, okay, same conclusions. it would be nice if other people could learn that. I don't view this as, oh, I want to compartmentalize this knowledge. This is unique knowledge for me. Everybody would benefit from knowing how to do this stuff. And it gets easier. A lot of the stuff that I'm doing right now won't even have to be done by anybody because it will be just an But you'll be able to speak into a automated thing. You won't even have to type. microphone. There's a big... a whole big part of this now, which is getting out of even having to type.

There are places in Silicon Valley where people are at their stand up desks using just their microphone and not even coding by typing. That's the next phase. So it's going to get to the point where you're not going to have to know any coding at all. Now you need to know some coding. You need to be familiar enough with how databases work and how the whole thing works to be able to put things together. But by next year, that won't even be the case. And Anthropix has been saying that too. Yeah. So let's say you're speaking in a So how does that work? microphone and you, you know, again, it's like a command prompt, right? You ask it to do something, piece of code.

And then how do you beta test it? How do you test it step by step and say, okay, if you've got a loop or you've got something else or you've got some sort of a process in there that you're going through or you're ripping through a stream of data looking for something, how do you test it to make sure that it's actually functional and working correctly? so that you know, I mean, does it work that way? Because that's the way it's always worked. Like I've always said, okay, let's get this piece of code done. Once we get that done, then we can put this and this and this and this and this on it. And then we'll test the whole thing collectively. You know what I mean?

And then we'll watch what's going on and then we can start talking about layering it. Now we can add another layer to it. You know, once we got that layer, is it like that or is it more, I mean, are you testing things? How do you know things are working correctly when you get done with it? You run a series of tests to do auditing. I mean, you can bring in another AI that has the process that you would go through for doing a code audit and have it actually go through and review your code and tell you about the code gaps. Because I mean, it's just code and it's just syntax, right? So now you can't fully rely on that. I mean, at the end of the day, you have to actually, yeah.

Beth says test scripts. Yeah, test scripts. I mean, now I'm playing around with simulated users so it's like i hear our simulated user profiles and the cloud cloud code thing that i'm using right now can actually access a web browser so you can have it access a web browser and go through the site and do end to end user testing. So, um, but that's not, I mean, that stuff is not a hundred percent yet. It will get to the point where it This is why I have a thousand dollar is. freedom dollar, um, bounty on, Oh, Oh, Asana.com because I've done, I've tested it myself. My wife's tested it. Um, and I've gone through and done some of these automated tests, not all I'm going to do more, but, um, uh,

you still have actual real end users. So then you do that layer where you actually get end users. Says, I would like to learn rather than understand Vibe. The thing is, the learning of it is, I guess I say this as somebody that I mean, does no coding. It's just that it's not particularly relevant to know because the programming languages itself change. programming languages are just an I mean, abstraction to figure out ultimately how to get you to flip ones and zeros. So all the languages are about syntax. So you're not really smart or don't have a real foundational understanding because you know how if then statements work in a particular syntax in a language that

then is translating that to ones and zeros, it won't help you that much. It won't help you be that much more productive. I say that knowing that stuff, but one of the things that bothers me about coding is you can spend a lot of time coding and it's like you put the semicolon in the wrong place. It's actually not a great use of human intellect to know when to use a double equal sign versus a semicolon versus a semicolon and an equal sign. There's a lot of time wasted on coding and debugging, which is why those jobs are probably going to go go first, but then you're seeing, you know, again, you're going to see new programming languages that are developed. where you're just like, Hey,

And then you can get to the point I'm take the AI and have it go in and refactor your entire code base. That's where this is going. But the other part to this is you've got to set up your environment, right? So I use GitHub and there's version control, right? There's versioning and back. If you don't have the right version control and the right backup, then it could be catastrophic. But I'm at a point right now, there's nothing really... there's nothing catastrophic that can happen. Cause it's like, even if you screw up, you can just roll it back. What aversion. So I haven't had any big catastrophic errors and there really couldn't be any major catastrophic errors,

but this is the kind of thing that I'm building. I'm building now that I'm getting further along and I have this many sites and this many projects, I'm bringing in all of these best practices and all of those best practices are getting better. Claude uses something called skills, which are reproducible tools. processes and ways to go about doing things. database and you're going to call, Because if you're going to use your you're going to use it in a certain way, right? You're doing the same thing over and over So you just put at and you refer again. to the skill when you're asking it a question and it's using the same methodology over and over again and then you realize

okay well i can then take that skill and apply it across multiple sites if they're using the same infrastructure which is why i have one project now that's managing multiple projects so that i can keep the skills up to date and always cutting edge and then apply it to all of the projects So again, the stuff that I'm doing now, everybody's not going to have to do in six months. The stuff that I've just spent the last six months doing will be irrelevant. All you'll have to do is speak into the thing, create a site that does this. You won't have to know how any of it works because that's how much more efficient this is becoming because the AI can call external tools.

and it can call external libraries of the skills files, and it can access the web browser, right? So at some point, that's how fast this is going. This is why I'm saying in the last ninety days, I'm like, wow, okay. Some of the stuff that I was stuck on went away when the new model of Claude came out, right? I mean, I could have sat there and I could have spent eighty hours debugging it myself, or i could wait less than that amount of time for a new model to come out that's really how fast this is going and i don't see any end in sight for this either right this is this is really um phenomenal how how this is going and this is why anthropic is interesting

because they're what was it they said they they had a a model that coded continuously for eleven days with no human intervention I mean, that's incredible. How many lines of code is that? Imagine. I mean, it's a lot. I haven't even looked at my GitHub. And by the way, I can't even imagine how many lines of code that I have right now. Like I should look at GitHub and see what the total amount is. But the funny thing is you'll do a plan. So the way I approach it is to do planning first, right? Let's plan out this project. not the whole site, but maybe this piece of the site or whatever and go through and map out steps. So you use the thing that's like, oh, I want to build a site that does

A, B, and C. And then it'll tell me, okay, well, you know, here are the eight different phases and it's going to take six to eight weeks. I'm like, okay, good. Let's have it done in thirty minutes. I'm not even kidding because it's laying out the amount of coding that's involved, all the things that have to be put all the things that have to be hooked together, in and tested. And so for me, actually, to your earlier point, I'll go through and a process has eight stages. I'll go through stage one and then I'll have it do end to end testing on its own and then I'll test it and then. make sure that it fully functions. Then we'll go to phase two, then end to end. But I mean,

literally I worked on something yesterday that had eight phases that it said would take six to eight weeks and it's already done. The amazing thing is I don't even remember what it is. I can't even remember which thing I built that that was. Maybe it was the system for processing all of the data into the database or whatever. I don't know. I worked on like three things yesterday. I was telling you this the other day. This is part of the challenge with this is keeping track of what you're even doing. But it's not even worthwhile to do a project management system. You want to then get to the point where I'm building interfaces and dashboards to Right now, automatically keep track of all the

projects that I'm working on. It blows away all workflow and all normal processes that people might have. There's no Gantt chart. There's no project management. There's not even a task list. It's crazy once you get into it how fast it is. I know this probably sounds crazy. Ridiculous. But I do want to, at some point, again, I may do another episode even before Mike comes on, where I just show everybody now what I've built. Because a lot of these things have been internal tools, but like the music videos that I show now, I mean... It takes a long time to put those things together. And it took me a long time to build the system to do that. And I'm always iterating.

I'm putting in new models and everything else and even new algorithms. But you just sit back and think about What would the process be? it. If somebody is actually making a movie, what are the processes that they go through? Who do they have doing photography? Who do they have doing this kind of What is that normal process like? editing? Well, how do I simulate that entire process? Then you simulate that process as a script. You do it in different pieces. You go through a lot of trial and But at some point, error. once you get the algorithm right, yeah, it may take the computer two hours to But you're off doing something else. do it. And it's done something that would have

taken human beings months to do. And it's stuff I could have never done, obviously the music I couldn't do at all. I mean, right? There's like no aspect to which I could... How much time would it take me to learn the instruments? I'm not capable of singing that way, no matter how much time I spent on it. So yeah, so there's a way to do it. I think freedom for... I think I just, from my time perspective, I... So my... I agree with what Hakeem said. I'm going to update the Technocracy Atlas, by the way, on this as well. Let me put this back up here,

the Technocracy Atlas. I'm going to... refine this a bit, but I think people need to understand this threat level part of the site. I've broken it down into US metrics and You know, again, global metrics, but you know, sixty percent of Americans already have real ID and that's digital in twelve states. I think from a digital currency perspective, between the Genius Act and Clarity Act, I'd give us an eighty five on that. AI surveillance, Palantir, OpenAI, NSA. It's already at these incredible levels. The next thing I'm going to do is I'm going to put together a map, both of the United States and the globe, that shows which states have real ID and everything else.

But what Hakeem said in his digital ID report is accurate, which is accurate with what's going on in the United States. This isn't about twenty thirty. This is about twenty twenty seven. According to the plan is for real ID to be digital in all fifty states by twenty twenty seven. The seventeen countries that just signed the same law basically using the same four vendors cover three and a half billion people for digital ID by twenty twenty seven. Mexico goes live with their digital ID next year. So when we look at this, our timing for parallels, because I'll talk to some people like, we're seeing some adoption with this well, yeah, privacy coin stuff and everything else.

You have to measure your adoption against technocracy, not against yourself. You know, you may have fifty percent growth year over year, but if the technocrats have captured six billion people, you haven't done a very good job. So we effectively have next year to get a sufficient enough people, number of people using these systems and beginning to build these parallel systems. Right. I mean, I can build the health care thing. Maybe I can build another marketplace, but that's not enough. We need hundreds of people building these alternative solutions. And it's not that hard. I mean, I say that, I mean, it's not simple, but if somebody's passionate about something and you're willing to learn,

the thing about that we talked about with these AIs is just be curious. The thing that's great about the AI is that you ask it questions. If you have the right AI and it's pulling from the right data set, then all you have to do is be curious and continue to be curious and continue to ask questions and don't get bogged down in your own ego and what you think you know. Just accept that none of us know much about anything. And as long as you approach it with humility and you're determined to find the answer, you're like, hey, I would like to solve this problem. I would like to create a business to Then just keep asking questions. do this. All that's required is your attention and

your determination to solve the problem. If you're able to apply your curiosity, you don't have to be a brilliant programmer to be able to ask questions. Knowing how to continue to ask questions and just not stop until you understand at a fundamental level how something works, anybody can do that. Maybe it's a matter of what your foundational knowledge is. You may not know much at all, but if you keep asking questions, somebody says, I don't know anything. It doesn't matter. You can start there. In some cases, that's better. Not knowing anything is better than thinking you know a lot. The people that think they know a lot are really problematic, right? So anyway, just but I take your point.

I do want to figure out a way to make this practical. I do like I am excited about it. And I wish as long as you've got to start and you've just got to keep being curious and just keep trying. And if you're I mean, of course, I'm kind of my wife might say stubborn, but the stubbornness can be helpful. If you're willing to kind of just, you know, kind of keep at it, because then eventually the determination and curiosity, you'll accomplish what you want to accomplish. But it's the same with crypto. You know, I would do these talks and, you know, people would read my book and I'm like, look, just download a wallet, right? If you don't take that first step,

it doesn't matter how many books you read. It doesn't matter how many podcasts you listen to, how many videos you listen to. If you don't actually take the action, take one step, just even if it's a small step, once you've taken that small step, you'll be like, oh, that really wasn't that big a deal. And then you'll take the next step. Oh, that really wasn't that big a deal. And then you find out after you're five steps in, it's like, oh, I can do ten million things with what I know, right? But the first step is always the hardest. Yep. Yeah. Well, that's a big thing. I think it's just like when kids start to walk, right? You just want to encourage them.

And then once they're starting to walk, you know, I mean, all you get to do is pick up the band, you know, put band-aids on things after a while, You know, right? help them put a band-aid on something and then just hopefully just keep going. Well, you and I talked about this the other day and I want to incorporate this into I don't know if it's the America of the, one point I was over one or not, it's the idea that but it's the, our curiosity gets crushed out of us and it gets crushed out of us by design. It's like we were talking about when Rockefeller got involved with education, he agreed to fund public school teacher pensions because there were no pensions at the time. But in exchange,

he wanted to basically determine the curriculum and what he wanted was worker bees. And so he set up a structure where now there's a bell system. Now kids are going to school for eight hours a day. Why? Because he wanted daycare. for the parents so that he could have men and women working in his factories or whatever his locations happened to be. But he didn't want the education training people to be competitors. He wanted the educational system training people to be worker bees. This is essentially the origin story of the scale-up of public education. Right there went the curiosity. That was the point where the curiosity was lost right there. Yeah, we're told not to have curiosity.

We're told not to question our existence, what everything is all about. We're then put into these tracks where somehow all of a sudden we've bought a narrative that the whole point is to go to college, get married, have a job that you work at for retire when you're sixty five and have thirty years, your golden years and your Social We've been taught that that is all that Security. life is. And we've fundamentally stopped asking any questions. about the nature of reality. And so now this puts us into a position when anything does come up, we're not able to even react to it because we've been pushed into these lanes. If we reclaim that curiosity, life is a lot more enjoyable,

because the truth is there isn't any by the way, certainty to anything. We don't really know anything about anything. And if you embrace that certainty, then you're always in a state of kind of wonderment. Whereas If you've bought into some propaganda about how things are supposed to be, you're only experiencing a real narrow slice of life that's been determined by people that actually want to control you, that don't want you to have curiosity. So I don't know. I don't know how to teach that. But to take the approach of like, I'm like, hey, if you don't like your job and you're sitting there, you're afraid that AI is going to take it over. It probably is going to take it over.

You can either sit around and be fearful about it, scream about it or claim that AI is going to be bad. Or you can be like, you know what? I don't want to do this. What do I actually want to do? Oh, OK, I don't know what I want to do. go on a journey to figure that out. Because you're going to do that now as opposed to get into a situation where the economy collapses, they take away all of your investment vehicles, and you're worried about how you're going to feed yourself, and then you're going to take UBI by default. Yep. so um yeah well that's the thing you know it's always the carrot and the stick ideally it's get both right the carrot which is the curiosity and the stick never

hurts to have the stick you know the you know the concern right that this technocracy is coming and we know look we've seen these things you know back to you know you know back to the nasdaq bubble back to back to know what we're talking about tonight you know the great financial crisis the real estate bubble you know the scam covid right we've watched these things there's going to be another one coming we know it's coming you know is it going to be you know this blow up in the debt system is it going to be sovereign debt crisis is it going to be you know we all i can say aaron is that you see things breaking down The correlations between markets aren't what they used to be.

And the markets are looking, right? They're searching for what's going to come And I think that goes into the whole out of all this. chaos component to it. You know, I think we're going to see some chaos in the next couple of years. And it's going to be interesting to see what these markets do. And look, I mean, well, I did a little bit of work getting ready for the show. And, you know, you look back at all these different events, you know, You can go through Bretton Woods. You can go through, you know, when Nixon cut off the gold because people didn't want the dollars, they wanted the gold. You can go through each one of these things. And, you know, it's you know that it's coming. Right.

We know that it's coming. This is not it's not even in question. We know that this is coming. It's just a matter of when and what are the signs to try to read for this. And so, again, back to the curiosity, if you can get curious and ahead of time. find a pathway and also understand that there's concern coming because they would love to steal everything just like Rockefeller did. You know, I mean, it's no different. They will take it all. They'll take all your curiosity, everything, take all your retirement, take everything you've got, take your healthcare, take it all. I think those are the two motivators, So, I mean, you know, and it's better to choose curiosity,

I think, than the other one, right? Because that's more fun for the soul and the spirit. Yeah, but I think not only it's coming, but to me, again, it's planned. And I think Howard Lutnick and others, they're going to bring it forward in a way that they've positioned themselves to control the outcome. So this is why, to me, this is why I've always made this about tokenization. But I mean, it's even worse than what I thought, I mean, in terms of... right? remember i was talking about earlier like i was going to try to warn people that tether could be a ponzi scheme and now it's like now i'm more worried that tether is going to become the global reserve currency or at least going to

become what what what is the primary thing for that that represents the dollar which could end up even being backed by bitcoin um and so that's the the so look at the moves that they're making um they never let a crisis go to waste but then they also like to cleverly time or make these things happen and bankers can do that right you can manipulate interest rates and cause it's not hard to cause a collapse when you have a system that's already over leveraged in fact it's amazing i is i've said this several times i believe it the only reason we haven't had a collapse is because people don't understand how the economy works And people are not taking their money out of banks.

They're not taking their money out of stocks because they literally don't even understand how it works. And their financial advisor is telling them, well, since World War II, stocks have always gone up this much. And they're getting the story. So nobody's paying attention because they're too busy trying to figure out how to pay their health insurance premiums. And so that's why. So it's not individual people making up the market. It's these, thanks to government, financial instruments, these financial vehicles through companies like BlackRock that are allocating everybody's money. It's not like it's people based on their individual perception of what's going on

It's being controlled by large financial in the market. That's what props this up. institutions. And then the sad thing is when a collapse happens, I spent so much time during the two I mean, thousand and eight collapse because I was in the middle of it. I said before, like I went to my board in January of two thousand eight. I said, we have to sell the company because by the end of the year, we're going to have a financial collapse and we risk Obamacare destroying our economy. I didn't know it was Obamacare at the time, but certainly it was the prospect of more nationalization of healthcare. And so we actually got, we missed the timing by like, thirty days.

We actually had an LOI in the company that, one of the companies, they weren't going to acquire us outright, but they were going to make a significant strategic investment. Turns out, it's a company that's been around for four generations. Their two largest customers were AIG and GM. So how about that in September of two thousand and eight? But but but I spent so much time like again, I think I told you I put together the first version of daylight and I had a prediction market and we would like analyze the bailout bills and everything else. And that was the whole whole thing. So I tracked that. And then you watch the big short or too big to fail or margin call and all these other things.

And it's so what's infuriating about it is it'll happen again. And by the way, you'll know that we're like beyond a crisis when the chair of the Federal Reserve is on Sixty Minutes. That's like that's like the point. Ben Bernanke used to drive me nuts because Oh, well, it's like this. if we bring in this economist guy and he talks in a calm voice, then that means that somehow we didn't have a bunch of degenerate gamblers on leverage destroying the entire economy and they're not about to get bailed out. this is it's like it's like but it's I mean, Right. right out of central casting. Right. I mean, this is this is how they and they'll do it again because people will be fearful.

And so they'll sit around and like not realize that it's it's absolute theft. What's going on? It's what's going on with these bailouts. And it's going to be Howard Lutnik and Scott Pezent and the Trump family and others that are profiting off of it. It's already it's it's so structurally set up that it's all it's a you know, it's a foregone conclusion. I know it's going to cause the collapse, but we know what the solution is going to be. Yep. Well, you know, we saw it with Bernanke, I mean, he's on record saying, oh, yeah, right? we'll just throw money from helicopters. Remember that whole thing? that's what we're looking for, those cues, And so, again,

because then we'll know when this thing's you know, coming. And, you know, I'm already one of the things that I saw the other day, Aaron, that's concerning is, you know, they're pushing this Hassett guy who's, I mean, you know, he's probably a nice guy, but He's not that dynamic. He's sort of a yes man. They're going to push him in as a head of the Fed, it looks like. Every indication is that. In his old spot, National Economic Council, Besson's going to take that over too. He's going to run Treasury and he's going to run the National Economic Council. So that tells you right there, internally, there's no check and balance. You know, it's just right. There's no check.

There's no one pushing back at all. No other economic council. You're supposed to be council. That's supposed to be you're supposed to challenge what's going on, you know, challenge the Treasury, challenge what's going on in the challenge the thought process. administration, There is none of that. So that's a red flag to me when he's going to handle Treasury and National Economic Council advisers. Yeah, no, it's bad news. Well, Sylvia says, I'd like to figure out Zeno and Freedom So this is one of the things that's Dollar. on my list to get to in a couple of weeks, which is, so we have the Freedom Dollar guides and everything else in these videos, but I want to see if I can

create a system and I would love feedback on the format, but maybe create online courses. um that go through in detail but i'd be interested in how people would like to learn the information i mean one there's like a walkthrough there's a detailed walkthrough and um the so the issue with this and this was the issue that i had doing workshops is that somebody changes the wallet or somebody changes the way something works then this becomes problematic because now the content is out of date and if people are really new to it Even though the change might be a UI change, if you see something that's got a different brand or whatever, you might not think that it's the same

And this is definitely true for people thing. that are brand new. So what I'm trying to figure out if I can do is put put in do online courses, but that are in really short segments where I can just swap out essentially the screenshots. as needed to stay on top of this. And then, yeah, she said a written guide. I was thinking a written guide as well, a PDF that could be printed out because I know people have different ways of doing So I'm going to invest some time because this. I can automate music videos and all this now I have these tools. I'm thinking that the next type of content other stuff. is, I don't know. I don't want to pigeonhole it by calling this, but it's like,

an online course for this stuff. And that where the online course has multiple different formats for people to get the information and then really go hard at that for signups for Zeno for Freedom Dollar and Confidential Layer. And by the way, it may be the next episode, definitely over the next few weeks, I may do an intro on what Confidential Layer is and then do a kind of a mini online workshop on Confidential Layer because that's why I showed the video at the beginning. That's a big deal. for being able to make Bitcoin and other things private, but there are a lot of other things that can be done with it. And I want to explain those things, but I'd love to figure out even how

to get feedback on, for those of you that are trying to use this and maybe the online guides or the short videos aren't enough, what would you like to see? What is the ideal way you would like to walk through this? And again, so I've done the workshops. The problem that I have with workshops is, so if we're looking at, I truly believe in two thousand six we have to have not only a lot of but we have to have people building all people on board, kinds of different parallel businesses and solutions. It can't just be me or a couple of other people. We need to get a whole bunch of people doing this. This is going to require teaching people how to do it, not only

what can be done and making people aware that these are even possible, but then also showing them how to do be efficient, really efficient with time. So I have to figure out how to it. And the workshops are like, they're really time intensive, right? we've got to travel somewhere and then I mean, there's like a whole setup. I've got to bring the whole AV thing. And then you have to worry about is the internet connection going to be solid enough for people that are in the room to be able to do it. And then you have people with different. So, I mean, you know, I may be able to get one or two hundred people at a time, but honestly, And when we were doing that,

there's so much in the coordinating, getting people there, getting a venue and everything that I can't do many of those or possibly any I've got to try to figure out, of those. is there a way to use these online tools to... And maybe it's use the online tools and then have a weekly or biweekly Q&A. So people can go through and use the online course, the written materials, but then if they still have questions, then there's a way to have a lot of people come on and ask questions. Now, related to that, there's also having an AI for that where you build up enough questions and answers where you're going to be able to go into the chat bot and say, how do I do this? And then it pulls up a video or

an image and a text description of how to do it. That's another solution. But for those that are listening to this that have... Wanted to get involved or maybe have been stuck a little bit. I mean, the issue for me as well, if we don't have really simple ways of doing this, when people ask me things one-off, like I don't have time to do the one-off explanations either. Because at this point, we've got to get a lot of people on board. So anyway, open to ideas. But what I'm thinking about is like an online course. where it's broken up into really small segments so that I can swap out the segments very quickly as there are new updates, followed by written materials, followed by a chat bot.

But if I'm open to any and all other suggestions, and then maybe with a periodic online chat. I mean, the other problem with this is that, you know, I've even thought about this from the standpoint of training other people to do this, but then it's, when you're dealing with people in wallets, that can be somewhat of a security risk. Like I wouldn't know how to trust, there aren't many people I would trust helping people with a wallet. And that doesn't scale very quickly, right? Like on the issue of trust. So anyway, that's what I'm thinking. But PragerU has great five-minute classes. Well, so if you go to FreedomForge.io, I actually have, you can go through like a multi-step

process where it's like download a wallet and then there are videos that two to three to four minute videos that show you how to download a wallet. It's not the best layout. I can improve the layout for that, but I feel like people might need something more. And so I'm trying to figure out what the right combination of, okay, here are online tools, but if you get stuck, there's a chat bot. And then if you still get stuck, once every so often there's a live time You know, where we can do Q&A, something like that, because I just I just want to figure out how to get as many people as possible and doing even if I did twenty workshops, you know, with one hundred people each,

that's just not going to move the needle. Two thousand people in a year that that doesn't that doesn't solve the technocracy So we're at the point where we really problem. have to figure out how to like two hundred thousand a year. Yeah, we need two hundred thousand a year. And then on top of that, ideally, you know, if there's the intro version of this is online and where maybe if we're doing in-person events, I was thinking if we were going to do workshops, it would be to get like maybe vibe coding workshops together with people that have decided that already have a wallet and now they want to build something. So it's like connect people that want to. you know and have it be a weekend

long event where you connect people together they can maybe partner together and form businesses and people can code together that kind of thing um but in order to even get to that point you have to have enough people that have gone through the intro stuff and so that is on the list to tackle next in terms of even types of content because it is a problem and crypto has done a bad job of that a lot of crypto is just assuming that you're already in crypto And that doesn't move the needle. The people that are already in crypto are probably stuck and wedded to waiting for the number to go up, right? I mean, those people are not as interested in building. I think the real future for this are

people that appreciate privacy. appreciate the importance of free will and want to build something but don't have the technical necessarily the technical knowledge i think that that's probably where the real growth area is not trying to convince other people that are already in crypto i've been to enough crypto conferences that i can tell you for sure that that's that's not where it's at that's almost like arguing with people over religion and trying to get somebody to convert religion that's not a that's The amount of energy required to do that is insurmountable. Well, so on that front, Aaron, I've had a couple of questions. When you do the ZBAC card, it asks for your name, address,

and phone number. So how does that remain private? Well, you technically don't have to enter your... So you can skip all that stuff, right? Well, no, it's not skip it. I, you know, again, I'm not saying that you should do this, but I'm saying that you could put in a, an email address. You need an email address that can be confirmed and you need a valid address, but it doesn't have to be yours. They're not actually, they don't actually check it. Right. So again, huh? Huh? You have to be able to access that email address because things get sent. You have to be able to access the email address and you have to remember what the address was so that when you, if you're doing online purchases,

you know the zip code, right? When you're doing kind of the billing thing. And again, this is kind of an interim solution. I don't know how long things like ZBIC are going to be around. Right now, it's simplified my life tremendously, but I've also had four other crypto debit cards that ended up not lasting the distance. But for right now, that's the best way. I wouldn't even advise doing anything But again, illegal and at this point in time see this is the whole point about this this is where privacy coins get a bad rap people like well you must be doing it for illegal reasons it's like or you must be doing bad things it's like no i'm doing this now because i know they're

going to make things like buying meat and being able to try i know what's coming everything that i do with any the stuff that i do is all perfectly legal it's just normal stuff right i mean i talk about buying plane tickets going you know buying hotels going here going that it's not like this is stuff that I can't currently do within the existing system, but it's getting off of the system in anticipation of what is clearly coming. I thought about this. I don't know how to set up a I mentioned before, simulation yet. But I want to spend some time doing this because we like to hypothesize on but why don't we run some simulations and this, see what's going to happen under a whole

variety of different circumstances and then just see what the output is. Here are five thousand scenarios. Here are probabilities of this, probabilities of this. Because whatever it is we think might happen isn't going to be what happens. It's like you said, I have no idea what's going to happen, what's going to cause the collapse. Me even guessing, I don't think I would be right. I think I would be, I believe with not a hundred percent, but well, with almost a hundred percent certainty that something is going to happen that's going to trigger this technocratic thing. But I don't know when exactly, and I don't know what. But if we don't know, if we haven't experimented in the space

and learned about it, then you can't even have contingency plans when you were close to what you thought would happen. It's not exactly what you thought would happen, but you can adjust on the fly. If you have a background in this and you know, oh, I'll just do this, right? You solve a problem. You're like, okay, how do I get from here to there? I know how to function in this space. This is what happened. i know what to do you know but if you never experiment in that space you have no contingency plan right and contingency contingency plans are not bad things because you can kind of you know you can wing it at that point there's a certain amount of a gap you can't

wing it right you can't get through things No, and it's also good to simulate with, you know, if we're trying to build these parallel systems, what is their likely attack going to be the other way around? I mean, somebody said when you say build something, build what? Online stuff, websites? I'm saying build a complete parallel economy that's outside of the existing system, starting with not using fiat currency and not using the dollar and using a privacy coin or a privacy stable coin. But then beyond that, build everything else. So OSR.com, which we launched, is in beta. is in medical tourism marketplace. So, you know, cancel your insurance to get a medical trust.

And if you need to get a medical procedure, uh, go overseas and use a privacy coin to, I'm saying that the way forward, to do it. you're not going to fix things politically. The only thing that, and I don't think being in fear works. And I also think, um, Yeah, I mean, Rachel says, I want off the system without moving to a cabin in the woods. You can't move to a cabin in the woods. Once you understand technocracy, it's incompatible with other systems. You can't hide from it. We need to out-innovate. We need to create a solution that's private and... but that's that's it doesn't have to be worse it doesn't have to be survival i think most of the time the way people

look at it is it's like okay well you know i better can a whole bunch of you know fruits and vegetables and do all this other stuff no why don't we build something better instead of being passive waiting for them to do something why don't we proactively build something better i don't see any point in spending time out of fear you know the funniest thing was um It wasn't funny, but you know, all of the, there's a huge prepper community in Asheville, North Carolina, right? All of these people are like, oh, well, I made my decision where I'm going to hide out and this is where we're going to be and we're going to hunker down in Asheville. And then it got wiped out by a storm, right?

The ability to, and I've seen a lot of people do that. I'm going to protect the thing that I They're like, well, have, but they're not thinking about the context of, of what might happen. You're trying to preserve something in a system that's already decaying. You just may not have recognized it yet. So the way out is to build. I think, and not be fearful and play defense. And so there are, so life doesn't have to be, we don't have to go back to Little House on the Prairie. This is another narrative that goes along with a lot of the people that think AI is a vaporware, right? Is that, well, yeah, you know, we're all going to get together in our local community and we're going to beat it

that way. It's like that doesn't, that's not compatible with drones and uh the trump's american database and rfk wearables that doesn't that doesn't work with with that at all so at some point we're gonna have to build our way out this is why i sit with the osara thing it's like the medical tourism marketplace then tools that empower you to use your own health information to make decisions for yourself based on AI that's based on actual health information and not tied to the medical system, and then empowering people to communicate with each other and share their experiences. That's a complete alternative health care system, one hundred percent alternative health care system.

No insurance, no doctors, no mandates, no government. That's an example of a solution. And that's just one area. You can do the same thing with food. You can have a food marketplace. where people are using privacy coins, alternative currency, and working with, I say local farmers, but it doesn't have to be just local farmers. I mean, we get stuff from Polyface Farms, which is in Virginia. There's also this belief that everything has to be local. There's no reason that we can't engage in voluntary trade outside of the system. It does not have to be confined to your local area. if it is confined to your local area, Because by the way, most people are in trouble.

There's nothing you can do if you're in New York or Chicago or LA. even I know people that are political But honestly, activists that... you know, even it's so hard to take over even a local political situation with teachers, unions, and everything else. And so if you're counting on local, that's actually a point of failure. I think that there's a, you know, a distributed network of solutions here where you can create marketplaces where people can engage in trade just completely outside of the system. So the opportunities are unlimited with I mean, again, we've talked about this before. I don't necessarily want to get to it in twenty twenty six because because I

think we have to tackle health and food and money first at a core level. But the ability to tokenize equities and create a financial system that's not tied to Wall Street government, the SEC and everything else that allows small businesses to raise capital and to do crowdfunding and everything else. All of that's open. I'll tell you, it's amazing once you don't have to think about the SEC and once you don't have to think about regulation. You do know how much creativity they've destroyed in terms of different innovative financing models. We've gotten to the point where we're just stuck thinking that why does a thirty-year mortgage even make sense and why does the government determine that?

It's actually asinine when you think about it. There are all kinds of different financial structures that you could come up with and different ways things could be financed, but they're not allowed by law because it would impinge control by the government and would impinge on the monopoly control that the bankers have. It has nothing to do with helping people or preventing people from being ripped off. And so, so much... can get open with that. I'll give one other example of, of, of how I'm. So if I do the America of one point, I was over thing. That's, that's one thing, I want to get people to think outside but there's kind of, of the box, this whole, you know, again,

I think everybody has natural curiosity that's been drained out of them, but everybody has natural curiosity. I think people have capacity. I think when people follow their, what they're actually passionate about and what, what they're, kind of purposes in life people are capable of doing amazing things but in order to get there people have to be aware of exactly how brainwashed we are here and i talk about it all the time in different areas but it's just like we're not the freest country in the world when you look at all of the metrics we're not the most innovative country we're not a lot of these things we have a we have a view of ourselves that's from like nineteen fifty five as a country.

We haven't caught up with the reality of what's happened. And until you accept what's happened, you can't move forward. So a lot of people want to hold on to it and they get offended. Well, why don't you move to Somalia or whatever? And like, that's not the point. The point is we've got a really significant problem here. You know, we're the land of the free with a seventy five thousand page, sixteen million word tax code. You know, we have more security cameras per capita in the United States than they have in China. We're ranked thirty-eighth in healthcare. And so part of it is like the sobering of this is what's actually going on. But the more important part is we don't

have to put up with any of it. We don't have to comply with any of it. Again, this is why the OSR thing is I want to launch a big campaign. It's like, yeah. Open enrollment next year, I would love to see a million people cancel their insurance and have a medical trust in place to make sure they're not going to get bankrupted by the hospital and by the bank if they do have a catastrophic situation. And I'm going to put together a bunch of tools to explain how absurd it is. And a lot of this information is already on OSARA, but, you know, the hospital doesn't tell you how much things cost. They charge you fifty seven dollars for a ten cent aspirin and there's nothing you can do about it.

They're not even they won't even tell you how much the stuff costs in advance. So you have an emergency, you go in and all of a sudden you get billed thirty thousand dollars because you've skinned your knee, but you went into the emergency room. You have no ability to challenge that. And you find out it's a scam because what they're charging has nothing to do with what it costs. And then they hide telling you what the information is. We should not be putting up with this. We should not be tolerating this. People should not lose their homes and go into bankruptcy because of this system. And we tolerate it because we think that we have to put up with this. We don't have to put up with it all.

By the way, if a million people canceled insurance, the system's over. Literally, it's over. I mean, it's already, the funny thing is, and so much of this is, you know, for me trying to figure out ways to communicate this, but when you, yeah, the charge master list. It's the charge master list, the hospital. It's the hospital pricing list. Ninety five percent of hospitals don't disclose what it is. But I've done some of these analysis and it's like, you know, if all of a sudden twenty five percent of people actually fasted for a week and got rid of their type two diabetes, it would bankrupt the hospital system. based on the fixed cost, the facilities,

the training and everything that they have in it. The system will die financially if people improve their health. And we know that this is the case. They don't want people to get healthier. They can't afford for people to get Then it'll become a national defense healthier. issue. hospitals need a certain capacity rate. And then because of the hospital capacity rate, they don't allow competition. So the reason you can't have innovative medical clinics and practices and everything else is that they have certificate of need laws on a state-by-state basis. And you have to prove to the existing hospitals that if you put up a facility, that it won't cause them economic damage

that harms their business. There's no competition in the system. It's baked into the laws. It has nothing to do... With anything, the system is intended to fail. But here's the thing. Why would we put up with that? There's under any kind of form of natural law, if you believe in the Constitution, any of the fact, can you imagine? This is a fun one to go through. Ask various AIs what the founders would say and describe X, Y, and Z situation. Here's how the healthcare system works. Explain that Congress fought giving up the Epstein list. The founders would not be putting up with So the people that are holding on to this. it, attached, thinking that somehow these systems that

we have are fundamentally American, they're fundamentally anti-American. But we have free will and we have the ability to not do these things. This is why I don't have a personal bank account. This is why I don't use the dollar. You know how many people would have to stop using the... Not many people took their money out of It would collapse the financial system. the bank. This is where we actually have leverage, is by voting... with our attention and our energy and putting it in alternative systems. But the minute we say, well, the only way we can fix healthcare is if we elect the Republicans so that we can have insurance over state lines, we're actually put into a situation where

the two solutions that are offered have a zero percent chance of winning. But in either case, all they do is enrich the donors of the politicians. It has nothing to do with us. There's a zero percent probability of No one is proposing anything that could success. possibly fix healthcare. And now we're at the point where we've accepted things that should never have been accepted. And so people will say something like, I think it's great that we're not allowing well, sugary drinks to be bought with food stamps, which basically means we're okay with programmable digital money because, well, we're paying for it anyway, so we might as well be efficient about it.

that's the same logic that's going to be Well, used to say that you can't eat red meat. That's the same logic that's going to be used for all of this stuff. And so – but no one's willing to accept the, well, should we even have Medicaid? Is it possible to have these Ponzi entitlements? These entitlements weren't designed – actually, whatever. You get through the – I tried to find the video clip at one point. There was – An audio clip of Ted Kennedy talking to LBJ, I believe it was, lying about how much Medicaid was going to cost because they wanted to make sure that the costs were projected to be under, believe it or not, a billion dollars at that time because

they thought if the public thought that the program might cost a billion dollars in a single year, that they wouldn't be able to pass it. But they were talking about the fact that they knew it was a lie. And so then we put up with this, and then nobody ever goes back. And then people start saying things like, well, it's a third rail. Well, I've got news for you. The Ponzi is going to collapse. And when the Ponzi collapses, now what you're going to get is technocracy, UBI, and the rationing of health care. the rationing of health care is exactly And by the way, how they're going to solve Medicare and Medicaid. It's taking AI, the systems that people are being sued

for, UnitedHealthcare, and Cigna, and applying that to Medicare and Medicaid. It's rationing. But we're never going to deal with the root issue. And then historically, this is what happens. And then things collapse. There's never a situation where I've found where a nation or an empire or political entity gets to this size and corrects itself. There's no turnaround story. It's collapse, just like it's collapse with fiat currencies. This isn't going to be any different But the thing is, either. there's no reason that we should put up with our own enslavement. Somebody says to me, oh, medical freedom. Okay, I don't need Kennedy. I don't need RFK Jr. to give me medical freedom.

I can get medical freedom by opting out of the system. He doesn't offer anything for medical freedom. No politician is going to offer you a solution. So all it takes is for a very small percentage of us to opt out, and they're in a real bind. So we'll build the future system or systems, plural, in an actual market setting without their permission. Because they're not watching out for us. They're not behaving constitutionally. They're not behaving morally. They're not behaving under any form of natural law or moral law. What they're doing is immoral. And there's no reason for us to put up with it. It's just a question of educating people on that because then people think their

only decisions are which public school to go to, which HMO am I going to use? Am I going to use this HSA? There are always other choices. They want us to always believe there are only two choices for everything. And the thing is, you go back to what we talked about earlier, curiosity, there are infinite choices. We don't know anything, but I will tell you that the choices that are the fake choices that we're presented with are certainly not all there And usually those choices are detrimental is. to us. So we can win this, but it's hard because people are busy. People are increasingly busy because they're trying to actually pay the bills every month, which is also part of the strategy.

which is distract people and put people in a position where they can't even protest because they're just too busy trying to survive. They're doing a pretty good job of that also. So time's not on our side, but we don't need fifty percent plus one person. This isn't like you need voting to get this done. A couple percent and that changes everything. So these are the kinds of solutions. So again, Whatever the infinite solutions are, but if you sat down, I guarantee you, everybody listening to this, if you sat down from scratch without even knowing anything about healthcare, whether you do or not, you could never come up with a system as poor as the system that we have. It's impossible.

Because it goes against any logic. It goes against financial incentives. Because if you sat down, you would probably be saying, well, what's a more cost-effective way to do this? What's a way to do this that would improve people's health? It turns out the people that are making these decisions about our healthcare system aren't worried about those two things. That's not actually a primary part of their thought process. And I learned this firsthand in the healthcare space, dealing with corporations, hospital systems, insurance companies all over the country. It doesn't even factor into their models of how to do things. It's crazy. So anyway. Well, it's a great place to start because it's

so broken, right? It's so broken that it's a great place to start. It is. And then the other thing is once you take your health back, then you realize the extent to which the medical tourism part is one of it. But then you start realizing the degree to which we've been poisoned. And I will show this thing that I'm creating that I downloaded my DNA. And I've mentioned this before. So I've analyzed my actual genome against various risk factors. And I'll tell you, the next exercise I'm going to do is I'm going to map my risk factors against the USDA food pyramid. And then I'm going to start really asking serious questions about whether or not they put out these things intentionally to harm us.

Because now I'm at a point where I realize looking at these things, now we have to go through detox. it's like, okay, We have to go through like a detoxification process, depending upon how your body works and what the pathways are and how you clear various chemicals out of your body. Then you start looking at things like the impact of plastics. Even the impact of perfumes, I just saw a huge correlation between various perfumes and breast cancer and everything else. Sunscreen, like literally everything that has been put out as a public health poster actually has negative health consequences. And it does certainly seem like once you study the history of public health,

that maybe that's intentional. So if we can get people, somebody said she loved the idea of a Like fasting is... seven-day fast. is something that they spend zero time teaching in medical school, zero. It's actually not at all part of the curriculum. I think there's only like, twenty-four hours or something of nutrition advice, zero on fasting. Well, I mean, I did the forty day fast for Roger, but I've done hundreds of days of fasting at various points in time and then studied It's like, yeah, after three days, it. you reboot your immune system. After seven days, you start creating stem cells. There's no money in it. So they don't even try to teach it. The only reason the doctor would know

about fasting is to know how long in advance before having a medical procedure, you should not have food in your stomach. That's literally the only case. And so if you talk to your doctor about it, they literally have no information about it. But, you know, a forty-day fast, this is something – Jesus did a forty-day fast. Moses did two forty-day fasts, I believe. Aristotle? Was it Pythagoras? It was Pythagoras. Multiple – in order to get into Greek mystery schools, allegedly you had to do a forty-day fast. I don't recommend a forty-day fast. The last four days were really bad. But a twenty-one-day fast, which Gandhi did – Twenty-way day fast is great. There's a guy that does, Dr.

Alan Goldhammer, he does water-only fasting clinics. And they've shown, they've reversed cancer, they've reversed MS, and obviously things like type two diabetes and hypertension go away, absolutely, during that time period. And then you realize it's just like we've been pushed into all of this horrible nutritional advice and they've codified it and they've called it public health. And they teach people, they teach children this in textbooks in school. And it's really bad. So once you go through a fast and they lied to us about all of this you realize, wow, food and everything else, then... Then once you get your health back, then you really don't want to put up with any of this shit.

And if you can avoid needing big pharma, most of the time you don't need it which, by the way, at all, the biggest problem with getting people out of the healthcare system is that they're on prescription drugs that are now hard to get off of because of the negative effects of getting off of the prescription drugs. That's actually probably one of the hardest things. to deal with. But yeah, now the last thing that they want is a population that's thinking independently and in control of their health. So anyway, go on for a while. I put the link here if anyone wants to join the chat. I've not done a very good job of sending this link out. I know you told me the other day

you didn't get the link. I'm like, great. I forgot to. That's one of the things I got to automate in this process is making sure we get the link on. Anybody who wants to join the live chat, sometimes these things are really We've had some really interesting interesting. conversations on here. So let's see. Let me send around a couple of notes. Let's see if any of our regulars... There is an upside, but again, this is part of the automation process. This is part of the part where I have a profound sense that going into twenty twenty six, things have to scale. So everything that I'm doing now with all of these systems and all of these websites is making sure that they scale,

making sure I can do the podcast quickly. If we're putting together onboarding for people for Freedom Dollar or whatever confidential layer, The tools need to be easy to understand. They need to be in multiple formats to help people. And then we've got a shot. I mean, I don't regret the stuff that I've done over the last year and a half or so. It's been building to this. And frankly, we didn't have a lot of tools. A lot of the things that we now have weren't built yet. But now this is about adoption. Um, and whether it's the Z back card or, or whatever, whatever it happens to be, which of course I can't use the Z back card with my D Googled phone. That's one, one, one downside.

Um, so trying to, trying to work through that. Just have one, you purchase things on another one. You, Yeah, I'm going to have both. So the thing is, if I were to say, well, I don't like Elon Musk, I'm not going to use X, we're not going to onboard people. You can't go into this echo chamber where you and twenty of your friends are talking to each other. We've got to bring people together. over. So, I mean, I always take the approach that the stuff that I'm using these, you know, big tech tools for, this is information I'm trying to get out. So, I mean, if somebody's spying on this, it's like, good, maybe they'll be exposed to the information, right? My problem is trying to get information

out, not that I am trying to protect information. I'm trying to get as many people, hey, you know, if there's an NSA representative or CIA person watching this, maybe they'll think about it. Maybe they'll change their mind, right? It's not like... I'm an open book on this stuff. But there is kind of a keeping a foot in each thing. Because I've seen people that have gone out of their way to you know, only use Linux computers and then they're going around doing presentations and they can't get it to work with a projector. Right. So their goal is to go communicate these ideas to someone. And then literally every time they go and do a presentation, they can't, and it's always a big hassle.

So there's a, there's a trade off on, on, on this stuff. But, um, In any event, that's one of the things I want to investigate to see AI is good at this. And because of Mike's data and some of the other data, I would like to try to collect all of the different ways in which we're surveilled by government and corporations today. Because I started to do that with my first book. And this is where I found out that there are more surveillance cameras per capita in the US than China. But then we were on this podcast a couple of weeks, two episodes ago, and we created a book. In fact, let me pull that up just to remind people, books.brightlearn.ai.

And... We put together a book on on the surveillance state within schools. So this guy on here, Rich Judas, I don't know if he's listening right now. He's like he brought up the questions like, hey, hey, man, you know, since nine eleven, is it different in schools than when we were in school in terms of surveillance? What kind of information are they collecting? And boy, that was a fun one. We got to find out that everything from surveillance cameras to Microsoft is using Xbox to use the camera to examine the emotional state of kids and index the emotional state of kids all the way down to how testing is working,

healthcare data and everything else. It's a complete surveillance state. And of course, Palantir's in there, Google's in there. I've known Gard for a while. And in fact, we've just missed each other. He's wanted to have me on. And maybe he's just not on X because we were going back and forth. So yeah, I'm very familiar with Gard. He's here in New Hampshire. But... let me see if i so i guess i can't search for myself on here or maybe the book isn't out he's just updated this but anyway we wrote a whole book on the surveillance state um in schools and hold let me see but to me

putting these things together visually it's also related to this whole own nothing concept i think if people knew truly how surveilled they are. And then even things like HIPAA and everything else. the people you don't want to have your Look, healthcare data already have it. The health insurance company and the government are covered entities. They can get all of this stuff. The government is providing forty seven percent of health care. So when people think they're protected who do they think they're protected from? from HIPAA, The people you don't want to have the data already have the data. The only thing you're protected from is yourself. It's a and your ability to use the information.

They don't want it easy for us to have our own information because, you know, God forbid we'd find out the liability of of what their actions have been. Um, but I mean, you do this across, you take the, the Snowden information, you take the tracking, even from things like that we don't think about, you know, remember the COVID contact tracing? Well, you know, they, they were upgrading the terms of service on all of the cell phones and then they were tracking where people were in relation to other people. You think they took that away? I mean, we're already being tracked. So part of me is like, yeah, I'm putting in place privacy solutions. But then the other part of me is

I also won't do anything that will slow down my friction and ability to get information out because that's one way they get you. It's already hard enough to get this information out. As it is, now I know I'm shadow banned on GrokSucker. So I'm going to run some tests on myself and see if I'm actually broadly search banned. I may be completely search banned now. And that would be directly Elon Musk not wanting criticism of himself. This is why my feed is pro-propaganda of Elon Musk while I'm search banned. So understand that's what's going on. This is not a freedom of speech platform Let me see if I can get these at all.

books. Maybe it works now. Did you do one on quantum sovereignty? I did. Okay. So I see that one on here. Yeah. I have an author page. I have one with it. Yeah. Yeah. So here we go. Now it's, now it's working. So I have, let me see if I can get to, I did the Silicon cathedral and he's updating these. so Mike just put together a new upgrade So, to the whole model and how this works. So he said he was good. He's rerunning the, all of these books so here's my collection of books so far this uh and the one that's not showing up which is the the one on because there's a co-author but i released today xano unveiled one on

quantum sovereignty the uncensored guide to decentralized health ai powered biophysics and reclaiming your body's energy code the cloudbuster code unlocking tesla's lost science for chemtrail detox emf defense and weather sovereignty and by the way i know almost nothing about this issue So this actually just came about because we were having a conversation about it. And so I went on to Enoch. I went on to Mike's AI on my And I'm like, oh, wow, computer. I didn't know that. I'd like to know more about that. So I wrote a book about it. You know, just gave it an outline. That's how cool. And then the Silicon Cathedral is a science fiction book. That I wanted kind of in the style

of Philip K. Dick, but it's about, you know, essentially trying to predict out the end game or the logical conclusions of what happens with technocracy. But I worked on it from the standpoint of Curtis Yarvin. If you take what he says and his approach to these things, what does the world end up looking like? And so again, Mike continues to upgrade the way that the engine works and he's adding new, new information all the time. But how cool is that? You can sign up for it too. All these books are free. You can download them as PDFs. You can read them online. You can create your own books. How cool is that? In fact, maybe I should, maybe we should create one on, on our topic tonight.

Yeah, let's do it. The we've got words from your slides, right? Will it do it? Is that enough? Let me... I mean, It should. some of the data is a little bit out of date, but it's not bad. I mean, it's still relative. Where do you get the tokens for this, Aaron? It says book generation token required. I think you have to be a member of his thing. Mike gave me a thing to be able to do this. But I think if you're a member of Brighteon and you do whatever the various activities are, you can earn tokens. Let me... Maybe I'll have to reach out to Mike. I'd like to write a few books.

That's a good question. You know what? Let me text him right now. Let me see if he responds on that. Let me see. So, yeah.

Oh, shoot. That's not the right thing. Hold on. You can feed it as much as seventy five thousand characters. Is that right? You can. Yes. Yeah, it's it's pretty incredible. And there's a. Yeah, so I'll tell you what I do with So he's there's a he's created a book. this. And this is, by the way, one of the ways that that I that This is this is a helpful tip. I use AI. Because you can either try to figure out how to do it yourself or you can try to figure out how somebody else who's already done it that's better than you has And you put that into the AI as done it. the guidance. You can go either way. But if you go the way of trying to figure it out yourself, you're working against yourself.

You really just want the end goal. So, for instance, Mike has this great thing that he's created, this great engine. And he's written a book for how to do prompts. So let me. So he's written this book, which I'll share right now. So here we go. He went ahead and used his own system to write a book, which is the ultimate guide to how to create AI powered books. So he wrote a two hundred and let me see, eighty four page book on this. It's like, all right, well, you know what? I'm not going to read this. I downloaded the book. I put the book into a database.

And then I'm actually sitting over here in my coding environment. And I took the talking points for these slides that I created. And I'm asking my coding environment to look up the database for the infinite knowledge book, figure out what the rules are, and then create an outline optimized for that based on these talking points. So that's the exercise here. that we're going through right now well so we hopefully we can see see how it turns out this is a little complex because it's trying to query the data i would have just put the whole book in there but the two hundred and eighty four pages is actually too big for this coding thing but let me see um all right here

we go now we've got it book outline the engineer collapse let me share stop that screen let me share another screen Let me see if it's going to allow me. Might not. That's interesting. Well, you won't be able to read that. Well, anyway, what I'll do is I'll show you.

It's not that important to see this but let me copy the outline that was environment, created just based on these notes and asking it what to do based on Mike's guidelines here. So here we go. Format, clear formatting. share all right here we go so this is this is the book outline so based on what we talked about here tonight we are doing the book outline is going to be called the engineered collapse part one the heist it's going to be a chapter called the setup then the controlled demolition the bailout machine winners and losers part two the debt bomb rebuilt

Chapter five, zero interest rate policy, the zombie economy, consumer debt explosion, the federal debt trap. Part three, AI is economic life support. Magnificent seven illusion, productivity lie, and the twenty twenty five to twenty six timeline. And then the exit strategy. Oh, it's got Bitcoin. Oh, that's not good. Can't have that. Hold on. No Zeno in there. Hold on. Freedom dollar check. So I'm doing that. And then the good news is, so as I mentioned before, I gave Mike all of the transcripts for

all of these videos. podcasts so when it's generating this book it may generate it in part based on these transcripts and whatever else information he has in fact when he created the xeno book i've been on mike's podcast on decentralized tv a couple of times so that was one of the references in creating the xeno book so now i'm having it uh uh rewrite this with Zeno instead of Bitcoin, then I'm going to throw that into which I would show you the book thing. But I can't because it's I can't show you my key, my token key. I told Mike, I would keep that. Keep that private. But in any event, let me see what we've got here is

a Zeno set up. All right, good. All right. So we've got a new outline target length, sixty to seventy five thousand words, sixteen chapters in an epilogue. I don't know how exact it's going to. You know, Treat this, but let me try it out. All right. All right. I'll get you in there as a co-author, Craig, because you co-authored this with me. We're calling this, apparently you can do a three chapter book

without a token. Yeah, I saw that. That's new. So that's great. For some reason, nine chapters seems like a good amount. Yeah, this is going to be on the longer side. Let's see what it says. Now it's building the outline. I can share this at this point. Well, just in case my token comes up, I guess I won't. It's building the outline from what I gave it, which looks like it's following the outline pretty well.

All right, while that's going. Hop over here so I can make sure I spell Craig's name right. All right. Here we go. All right. Now it's analyzing the book concepts, planning the cover art. And this is amazing. I think he's up to five hundred books

so far. This thing's only been around for a couple of weeks. But they're good books and they're what they're well laid out. And I haven't seen what the new the new model is like, what the output is going to be. Have you gone through a few of them? Yeah, I've gone through a few of them. Huh? And I was stunned by the one, the Panopticon book about education and surveillance in schools. That one was pretty shocking. I haven't read the Zeno one, which was just published today, so I should probably... look through that one and make sure it's Cause it's pretty long with a lot of accurate. technical details. So I'm wondering even how that,

how that worked, but let's, uh, here we go. The great unraveling. Let me see. Make sure this again. All right. The great, the great alignment, how the two thousand and eight heist was just the beginning. Look at that cover. Pretty nice. All right. It's going to research books, interviews, articles, and podcasts for sources. Do we want easy reading, academic, inspirational, instructional, whimsical, or doomsday? I don't know. Academic or inspirational.

What do you think? I think it could be inspirational, right? We could try it. We could try it. All right, here we go. And when you're doing this, by the way, you're going to want to not use Gmail. Mike is incredibly suppressed on the Google platform to the point where his voice print has been identified and anything with even his voice in it, any interview or anything on YouTube is immediately shut down. In fact, I was talking to Hakeem. He said the only interview he has ever had removed was his interview with Mike.

So that's probably a good sign. He's doing something right. Yeah, I suspect that's good sense. We'll wait. It may not happen. I don't know what the backlog is, although I think it said we were the first in the queue. I don't know if this new one takes more time, but I will say I created two books on the last podcast or two podcasts ago. We did two books. uh in one in one podcast so this will be pretty this will be pretty cool so hopefully i can keep feeding him data i may even give him some of my other data access to some of my other databases just because the you know the more original source information he has the better and this is why i'm building this i'm definitely not going to do it

tonight it's too late but i'm going to build that raid drive tomorrow i've got What RAID configuration are you using? Do you know? It's a RAID-X configuration, and here... Oh, this isn't going to be... That's not... Oh, where's my... Are they solid-state drives or magnetic drives? Here we go.

They're actually refurbished drives in order to do this cost effective. And again, Mike gave me the tips on all of So they're just standard. this. This is a twenty six terabyte Seagate refurbished drive, which I actually have coverage on through through my plan. So you put ten of those, and I have an enclosure over here, which I haven't unboxed yet. And based on the way that it works, you end up getting half of the disk space. But the reason to do this, he said, is that for small files, he said he experimented with everything and that this is by far the fastest solution if you're dealing with a lot of small files. I'm very grateful to him for giving me all the research because he man

he's been playing around with this for a long time so we uh dork out over over some of the configuration stuff but he's he's really uh he's really figured this stuff out um yeah that rate's pretty cool i have it in some of my servers oh yeah what do you what do you use Well, speaking of Michael Dell, so I have a bunch of Dell servers. And so, yeah, I think it's RAID. I think I use RAID six. Maybe it is. Let me see which one it is. So the thing with rate tenant superior form is faster read rights but sacrifices capacity only useable tolerating one

failure premiered pair can fail with two in the same mirror set. yeah yeah, so I use six raid six for high default tolerance survives to drive failures. So it says, yeah, she's rate ten for high IO database applications needing speech. She's rate six for bulk storage where capacity and redundancy, any two failures are key. Yeah. So. And mine, mine isn't huge. Yeah. I want to say it's probably about maybe I think it's like eight terabytes. I think I have on one of them and maybe twelve on another, something like that. But they're all solid state drives, so they're pretty fast.

Yeah, I bet. Have you had any issues with it? No, they have it pretty well calculated out. Dell knows exactly what the failure rate is, and they warranty it exactly. So you've got a seven-year window and then they fail. And then when you have to buy another one, it has Dell firmware on it. And you can't just buy one on the open market. Otherwise, it doesn't recognize it. They've got something on there. So you have to buy it from Dell. And it's like ten times the normal price. It's incredible. So you're better off after seven years, you just buy another server. Sell that server and buy another one. So let somebody else who's smarter figure it out. So this thing ended up being, I think,

less than five grand for the whole two hundred and sixty, I mean, one hundred thirty terabytes usable. But that's not that's not bad. I was I was pretty, pretty impressed. Now, let's ask me on Thursday if I get it connected right and get it all configured, because I haven't I haven't worked on a raid thing for like. Twenty five years or something, so, you know, whatever, but I'm sure it's not going to be too complicated. God, I remember, do you remember eight-inch floppy disks? Oh, yeah. What they have on them? I mean, you could get ones with different capacity, but it was really low, right? I mean, you could get one that had like, I think there were two sizes, weren't there, on the floppies?

You get one that had like, ten K and one that had like fifteen I don't know, K or something like that on it. Yeah, I don't even remember now. I just remember Centurion was the company. It's weird to even think about now. I think that we were first in the Let me see. queue. I said estimated wait time, So from when it from when it started. twenty minutes. So I don't know when when that was, but we're we're at the top of the queue. And so, oh, now it gives a breakdown. But he's really fast. modified this whole process this is great so it says says minutes for book architectural review and planning this

extra time greatly improves the flow continuity and details of each chapter by the way i've built a i've been experimenting with these kinds of systems too i was working on one for article generation and it really is a pain to you know because you're trying to write chapters but then you want it to flow and you want the tone to be right and it's just like trying to figure out the right formula for editing. I'm feeling like inspirational probably wasn't the best one for us. We probably should have gone doom. I wonder how it's going to, I'm curious how it's going to spin that. it could be inspirational because the last I mean, episode, So the parts three and four.

So part three is AI as economic life support. And part four is the exit strategy. So I can see the exit strategy could be good. So it's Zeno, the privacy lifeboat. Chapter thirteen, the freedom dollar. And chapter fourteen is CBDC is the trap to avoid. Chapter fifteen is the parallel economy. Chapter sixteen is preparing for twenty Well, that was in our original outline. twenty six. I don't know how if this thing got restructured, but yeah, this could be inspirational. Good. OK, good. The first part should inspire you to watch the big short margin call and too big to fail. I'll tell you, those are classic. Those are so rewatchable that, you know,

I don't know. I don't know why, but they really are. The margin call was pretty, pretty good. Have you gotten used to those glasses? Can you wear them all day long? No, I don't usually wear them during the day, but I have gotten used to them. Um, and I, I mean, I have to wear them now cause I've got all these lights and everything, but yeah, you, you adapt, you adapt after a while. Cause I got a pair the other day just to try it out and it's sort of hard. I can go for like a half an hour, an hour with them on and then I have to take a break. Did you notice that too with yours? No, I'm on four and a half, five hours now.

I'm happy when I take them off. Initially, when you started, did you have to build up endurance with them or you could pretty much go four hours right out of the gate? I don't think I paid much attention to it because I was wearing them on the podcast. I think if I were not so actively engaged in the podcast, I probably would have noticed more. But... So I really got these just to start at night because it's at night because it's at six o'clock. And so that was the first time I did it. Otherwise, I use this thing called F-Lux. which gets rid of the blue light, most of the blue light on the screen. I don't know if you've... I know it's good for Mac. There may be other solutions for the PC,

but I've been using this Efflux for a while. So I'm used to my screen being kind of yellowish. The reason that I... In fact, I don't even necessarily need them if I'm just using my computer that already has the blue light filtered out. Although, as I learned from Jack Cruz and others, there's still issues... even with efflux but it's the other lights it's actually the the lighting for the podcast at night that absolutely requires it otherwise it's kind of like toxic but you know i'm at the point where yeah now i'm gonna wear these things that going to events or if you're an event where there's a whole bunch of, you know, led lighting or whatever, it's just, you know, it's kind of a thing.

I'm starting to see more people wear them. It's, it's, I wouldn't say it's by any means mainstream, but it's definitely catching on. It's definitely catching on. Honestly, these don't fit that well. They're a little bit big. So if anything, I, I might get a different, different pair. Um, they're okay if I'm sitting, but if I'm walking around, they're actually a little bit loose. Um, Yeah. What kind are those? Just curious. They are... Let me see. I've got to look this up. Lucia Eyes. L-U-C-I-A Eyes.

I'll have to check those out. I'll put that in the... People have actually asked. So... so in case anybody's interested oops yeah just for your reference the eight inch floppy disk started with eighty kilobytes and they ended up at one point two megabytes oh one point two megabytes yeah you could put a lot on those those things were you could hardly fill those back then It is funny to think about just the size and scope. I mean, my computer has a sixteen terabyte hard

It's almost laughable. drive. I remember having a Tandy computer. that had an external hard drive. It was RadioShack, right? It was RadioShack. The external hard drive was twenty megabytes and I think it was like twenty pounds. The hard drive was just ridiculous how heavy the thing was. if anyone wants to join the chat, So anyway, I guess we're not getting any of the regulars today. Maybe on Thursday. I think I'll do confidential layer. But I think I'm going to do just the confidential layer. What I'm going to talk about is the

overview of what it is and what it does. I'm not going to do the whole walkthrough how to use it because I want to spend some time coming up with a better way of doing that. And I don't know if I'll have time by Thursday. But there are a lot of applications. And I haven't even fully dug into... you can swap cryptocurrencies. So you can actually use Confidential Layer to take your Bitcoin and then swap it into Ethereum. And so when you start thinking about things like DeFi, there are a lot of applications for this. So I think that there are going to be a lot of crypto traders and a lot of people using this and a lot of use cases that I need to study and kind of understand the breadth of.

I mean, because obviously I'm focused on, all right, well, we have to fight CBDCs and all this other stuff. But I think there are broader applications. So I'm going to... I'm going to track that down and then make sure I want to see if it's in the, actually, let me see right now if it's in the bitcoin.com wallet. But the thing that made it, the interface through confidential layer itself is a little clumsy. I think, I think I did show it on here at one point and it was, I played a video and I'm like, yeah, this isn't ready for, it's like four steps. And you know, if one of the steps fails, it's kind of weird. But this, um, Edge Wallet has the ability to just swap

right in the wallet. BTC to BTCX right within the wallet. I mean, it's like one click. So that's a big deal. And by the way, related to that, so somebody asked, you know, there are ways to make money with this stuff. you can if you have a website and you're selling products you're going to be able to use a plug-in where you can accept xeno freedom dollar btcx ethx so when you think about that i mean this represents a couple trillion dollars of potential purchasing power we've got to get the word out to people about that, but that's actually a pretty big deal in terms of what it opens up for market potential for retailers.

And then the other thing is, when I show these things, people are like, well, how do I get this non-KYC? I mean, you've got to go through hoops, right? You could honestly buy a stable coin through an exchange, which is tracked, and then swap it through a non-KYC service. There's not a good direct way. You can buy Zeno directly with a credit card, but to me, that's not all that valuable. Now somebody knows you bought Zeno with a credit card. So now somebody's going to come around and look and say, well, did it appreciate in value? Did it decrease in value? And then the way the IRS works is they'll just assume the worst. and then you can't provide any of the information so you know i get get a

get a uh stable coin like tether and then i hate tether but you know a good use case for it is at least you've pulled it off the exchange and what's tracked is that you pulled something off that you know was stable in value and then you swap it but i think the more important thing is you know Setting up marketplaces for people to be able to sell services and goods where you can earn in Zeno. I think that's an important way to do This is why I think that the medical this. tourism application is so big because it's a hundred billion dollar market. And one of the pain points for the market is the payment mechanism. you know providers are already worried about credit cards they already have

issues with paypal and i will tell you good luck sending a wire internationally if you've never done it before which most people have not most people have never sent a wire at all and then the number that have done it internationally is even smaller than that it's really a pain um and it's a big choke point for all of this right i mean if the government's flagging transactions of all kinds well you want to go get a hip replacement and it's twenty five thousand dollars and now all of a sudden you're sending a twenty five thousand dollar to wire to thailand and now all of a sudden somebody from the bank gets involved and then you've got to go through and meet with people and go

through all this other stuff because remember the bank can you know reject any transaction they can cancel your account without cause and this is the kind of stuff that they that they don't want to see. So to me, this is a natural for freedom dollar in particular is a natural for all parties involved because it's a stable value and no chargebacks at the transaction fees are like a cent, right? So this is a, so to me now, of course, nobody knows about it. So, um, whole point is build a medical tourism site that has all the best information and then as people are inquiring about the service the the facility will be notified that hey here's an interested customer and

they're also interested in potentially using this and then that'll take them back to a sign up page this is why i want to create this kind of i don't university isn't necessarily the right thing but uh a really good walkthrough on on for onboarding people that's not just a two to three minute video i mean have a two to three minute video as well but but really go through and walk through the whole thing because i i'm going to assume if i'm a medical provider in thailand i've never heard of freedom dollar xeno before i think that's a fair that's a fair assumption So you want to be able to encapsulate not just, hey, here's how to download a wallet, but here's what it is.

Here's why it's important, right? This is the context of this in terms of the pain point that it's solving. And again, we could do this with food, you know, as we talked about before. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's big for them as well. But I think medical tourism might be the single best application for it. But just get people used to using it. And again, not because... You're doing anything illegal, but because you may not even know it yet, but your bank will stop transactions. PayPal has off-boarded medical providers there's already a long history behind this I mean, before.

for no reason. It's kind of like Operation Chokepoint one point. Oh, you know, these guys won't hesitate to to halt transactions. And, you know, the government's not going to like medical tourism. You have no idea how many scams there are based on funding from the medical system that have nothing to do with the medical system. Like in New Hampshire, they use this Medicaid enhancement tax at the state level. And then the state took half of the money that was supposed to be for hospitals and they put it in the general fund. There are so many scams. I mean, hey, maybe with AI, I can download all of the laws and This is the kind of stuff people are start doing... really not going to like,

is doing an analysis of these laws. I was thinking about starting to analyze these bills in the Senate by kind of like the way we're doing with the own nothing thing, where it's like, okay, here's a bill, here's how much it's going to cost, but then who are the beneficiaries, and then tracking that back to the donations to the politicians. Because that wouldn't be hard to – I've already downloaded the FEC database of political contributions. Well, this stuff with AI would not be hard to put together. And you put a few visuals together, and you're going to be able to see exactly – and you do it in a funny way. People always joke about, hey, politicians should have NASCAR uniforms

where they've got the patches and the logos on them. You could literally do that. You could take this bill, and it's like, well – oh, okay, I guess Marco Rubio is not a senator, but Chuck Schumer, and then here's Chuck Schumer with his patches related to this bill. and that might be an effective thing to You could do that, do. I participated in a weekly Monday night call with several NDs, HDs, and herbalists, and I promoted OSR listing to them these last two weeks. I appreciate that. Oh, great. And by the way, I hope everybody... It is in, as I said last week, it's in beta. I want feedback and suggestions. It is not perfect. I know it's not perfect, but I don't even know the degree to

which it's not perfect. And I'm sure there are so many good ideas that I haven't thought of that we've got a thousand dollar... freedom dollar bounty program and so if we accept your change you know whether it's based on a feature improvement or a bug or whatever um if we accept those then then you can also earn some freedom dollar uh doing that and um you know january first is coming up soon so we want to get it improved uh as much as as we possibly can uh and you know again this is just the beginning of the whole alternative medical thing. The medical tourism is just one piece. We have three different stages to it, but it's going to take a lot of work to... to get it right.

And the most important thing is, does it make sense to you? Cause it can make sense to me sitting here buried in this stuff all the time. And that doesn't mean anything. So I want it to be easy, but I, you know, and there are some features that I already know I'm going to add that I, that I have it, but more community. I think people will want to share their story. If we can get people to share their stories about, um, billing problems and issues that they've had with the existing system and we know the high level stats but you know stats only sell so much personal stories do a much better job and you could imagine if all of a sudden every time i talk to somebody whether it's at a social

gathering or a dinner you know i ask them questions about the health care system and it doesn't take long for somebody to launch into a story of either them directly or a family member it's it's i i've never found somebody said oh no not me i've always had great experience with the medical system it's it's Unless you're dealing with kids that have never actually entered the medical system, it's a hundred percent. You're going to find somebody. If you can get those people to go on camera, if not on camera, to write up their stories and then share that around. Because you know what? Everybody's had this experience. And if at some point it turns out people think that it was an isolated

experience and now everybody realizes, hey, wait a minute. Everybody's had this experience. Why are we putting up with this? This might be a way to get people to do something. Now, let me check on our book. I know it's getting a little late here. Let me see if we've got just kind of hoping we could at least Oh, it's there. I didn't get the email on it, but it is up. So here we go. Let me share this out with my co-author. Here we go. The Great Unraveling. The Heist was just the beginning. So let's see. Let's see what's in our bestseller here.

Understanding the deliberate inflation of the housing market, the role of Goldman Sachs and AIG in creating counterparty risk. Look at that. The financial crisis wasn't a market It was a deliberate demolition. correction. We're in here talking about mortgage-backed securities. I think I saw Tim Geithner in there. His name. Did you see Geithner in there? I saw pop through there. So this is coming off of Mike's AI is Enoch or whatever he's renamed it. Yeah, this is coming off of his thing. It's not even just his thing. It's his thing plus more data. So he released Enoch whenever it was a couple of months ago, but then he has trained it on,

he has collected so much more data. I mean, he has like, he has ten of these ray arrays, at least. He has over a petabyte of data. And he has multiple machines processing this stuff all of the time. And I know he just did a data load either yesterday or today that included my stuff. So here are the sources. So here we go. Matt Taibbi, Griftopia, Nomi Prins, It Takes a Pillage. I like that. That's good. Barry Ritholtz, Bill Fleckenstein, Here we go. and Aaron Pratt, Bailout Nation. Then we have Natural News and Mercola. So that's just for that chapter.

The zombie economy and its risks. Housing bubble that Fannie and Freddie. So the short chapters. This one's got some info wars and then Neil Howe from the fourth turning. I'm going to be interested to see how it handled the Zeno stuff. This will be. This is going to be the most challenging. CBDCs except financial reach. FinCEN. Financial privacy. Let's see what the reference citations Infowars. are. Ritz-Holtz.

I guess maybe it doesn't go into too much technical detail on this one. I was kind of thinking it would reference some of your stuff. Yeah, I hope the CBDC one does. Well, not yet on that. But anyway, I encourage everybody to run out and download this for free. I'm going to put the direct link. into the chat. It looks like it's a, it looks like it's a pretty good book. It looks like it does hit a lot of the key points. We've got the bailout machine here. We have from seven hundred billion to sixteen trillion, the hidden scale of Fed loans. So we've got tarp, we've got.

Have you know me, Prince, are you familiar with this collusion, how central bankers rigged the world? Yeah, that name sounds familiar. Bailout Nation, How Greed and Easy Money Corrupted Wall Street. Anyway, this looks like a good read. Sort of fun. We get to read and see what's in our book. More than I've read some of my books. NVIDIA's three trillion dollar valuation, so it's... A little bit behind because it's flat pushing five. Yeah. Federal Reserve Zerp has played a crucial

role in inflating NVIDIA's valuation by keeping interest rates artificially low. Distortion. It's kind of interesting because it could have gone either way because my outline was more pro-AI. And so I'm a little bit surprised that it's... So it seems like if you feed it seventy five thousand symbols, you're going to probably have a heavy influence in what gets written. But if you only feed it a little bit, it'll pull from the A.I. is that it'll pull from the data that's in Mike's. Do you think that's how it works? Probably. The best way for me to know is

when I read the Zaino book because I gave it a lot of information in the Zaino book. So what I did for the Zaino book is I actually created my own database where I scraped all of the information from the Zaino website, all of the white papers, all of the articles, even the GitHub. And then I downloaded and translated all of the major interviews that the founders did on multiple platforms. I put that into a database and then I had my thing spit out an outline but then also i put in a section at the end with the source information so i don't it'll be interesting for me to see what it did with it because that one was one where i'm like yeah i mean i why would i expect his database to have all of

this that that you would have i mean that's niche right you know extracting github information is uh yeah i i maybe he's done it i mean actually given some of his data sets maybe he has but I'll have to look at that and see. Your role in shaping the post-pandemic economic landscape will not be the end of the world. It'll be the beginning of a new one. Financial collapse has been engineered over decades. It will finally unravel, but this moment is not cause for despair. It's an invitation. Invitation for you to step into your power to reclaim your sovereignty and to actively shape the economic landscape that emerges from the ruins of the old system. The question is no longer whether the

system will fail. It already has. But whether you will be a passive victim or an architect of what comes next. So this is good. So I think it's a good inspirational piece in there. I like it. So yeah, I mean, I'll scan this, but you know, this seems like it, it probably does a good job of, uh, let's see what the time to act is now start small. But start today. Audit your dependencies. Where are you still relying on the systems that seek to control you? Begin replacing those dependencies one by one. Move your money out of big banks and into credit unions or precious metals. Join or start a local mutual aid network. Learn a skill that can be barter, gardening, carpentry, herbal medicine,

or mechanical repair. Educate yourself on decentralized technologies like Zana, which offer true financial privacy. unlike the surveillance coins pushed by globalists connect with others who are doing the same the post-twenty twenty-six world will belong to those who have already built the networks the knowledge and the infrastructure to thrive outside the collapsing system the elites are counting on your fear and inertia prove them wrong that's pretty good that's awesome well done oh i like it i like our book great job co-author Writing a book's never been easier, right? No, it hasn't. So I was developing my own book writing

thing as well, which I might actually use... because I still want to do that one on tokenization. And so I don't think there's any way to get, I mean, I have very specific explicit data that I wanted to use. And then I was also thinking, I also want to format it in a very specific way. Like even when I wrote my first book, I was like, okay, I'm going to actually start, I did a, I had an image at the beginning of each chapter. I had a quote and then, you know, I structured it a certain way. And then I had key takeaways at the end. I want it to be something you can skim and, And I want something to have a good visual format that also does have some images or maybe even memes incorporated

with it. I'm trying to demystify this tokenization thing. And so I might do it this way. But at the same time, I have been thinking a lot about it. This is why I haven't written articles. It's like when I think about the time that I put into writing one of these five thousand word articles versus... you know, writing a book, if you set this thing up. So I've been trying to do this for I write articles for the Brownstone So I'm like, all right, a while. Institute. I write articles for a few other things. And these articles are similar tone, right? So I'm like, okay, train the AI on my tone. Give it my articles that I've actually written. take my transcripts and and then build my

style right so it's not so you're actually that's one of the things that it's calling so i've only ever submitted one article that was generated by ai in this way and it was a thousand word article for uh the agorist nexus which is a thing that no longer exists but it was like a monthly monthly thing And it was okay. But it is the kind of thing, like with all these things, you have to tweak them. But after a while, it's like, yeah, this is the way I try to present This is my voice. information. This is my information. The hardest part is editing. there's an extra space here. And it's like, oh, There's a dash here. There's a grammar thing. I don't feel like I'm cheating if I'm

using the AI for that, right? And that's the most time-consuming part. Editing is by far... I can write stuff really fast, but the editing takes probably five times as long as the writing. Well, just the flow. When I write something like that, it's like, this just doesn't sound right here. But if the AI, I mean, if it does a better job at that, I'm okay with that. I don't have to fight with words. It's like, that's not exactly what I want to say there. But let it do some of the work, and if there's something you don't like, you can go in and say, Let me change it. I don't like that. That's a better way, right? Exactly. But then this is what I like to say about you learn about yourself when

you're doing this, because in trying to put together something and AI to create articles, it caused me to go through what is my process for creating articles. Because you get to the point where you just do stuff, but it's like, well, why do I do it that way? So I put together an outline, and then I collect the information, and I put these things in these pieces, and then I'm like, all right, was there a better way to do that? And so at the end of it, you end up with a superior product. Even Jeffrey Tucker, who was a little bit skeptical on AI to begin with, he even wrote, he's like, yeah, you know what? This thing is actually even better at turning phrases than I am.

Um, he's still resisting using it. He's still trying, but, but you know, it's kind of, there was another guy that. he gave a speech kind of anti AI, recently I was at, but then I had my setup where I was at at this event and I showed him how it works. He's like, Hey, you know, I could maybe use this to send emails I don't want to write articles or write in my tone. He's like, books in, in this way. but if I could use this to say, But if, respond to someone with my classic tones, all of a sudden he was kind of convinced this, this happens. Like I I've, I'm not ready to do it yet, but I may do a podcast where at least like the educational content part of

it is AI generated because the voice clone is perfect based on the amount of data. Well, look, some days I have a cough. Some days I'm tired. So is it... if I'm going to be going through organization that I've outlined, right, and presenting information, do you want the version of me that's sick with a cough or do you want the best version of me? What's actually the most effective, right? So we'll find out. We'll see how well that actually pans out. But I do want to try that. I may not use it often, but I can see doing it for clips as well. if you want to get a clip perfectly You know, for a short one-minute thing. right, So Alabama John said he wants to talk

He's also live on Rumble. to you right now. Come by when you are free. Alabama John. All right. Do you know Alabama John? I do not. Should I? It sounds like someone that's been on I remember it from one of the shows before. we were on before. I remember that name. I remember somebody saying it, but I'm not sure. I don't know if the person was actually on. Let me go to Rumble and see. So we got here with Alabama John.

all right he's live chilling with uh there we go well yeah maybe i'll check that out i don't know did you have a question or something or was it um Said he wants to talk to you right now. I'm busy. I might stop by. How long will he be on? we're getting close to the end here, I mean, but I may take a break and pop

Probably should see what it's all about. in. I'll give him a follow. Oh, wow, there's still... Yeah, I wasn't even looking at Rumble. There's quite a few comments in there tonight. Yeah, we get a good, decent amount. Some people are getting the book. That's good. I hope people like the book. Yeah, I was going to take the... I'm almost at a point to do it to the, the Silicon Cathedral book that I wrote. I was going to take the contents of that and have it converted into a movie trailer. Yeah. just as a demonstration of how all this

stuff can work. I think people are going to be surprised about movies, full-length feature movies this year. Again, we'll go through our predictions with Mike. I'm sure I'll be wrong, but also probably under-represent what's happening. Because, I mean, at this point, you can clone the voices. You can take images and then convert them into video that have your face in it. So you can edit the images. It's actually not hard to string together. The hardest part is that, for the most part, these top video models are only like five to ten seconds each. So you end up having to stitch together images. a whole bunch of individual pieces.

So that's how I do the music videos is I create, you know, I've got the lyrics and then I have a whole like advisory structure to come up with what the aesthetic is for each of the scenes that matches up with the lyrics. And then it actually generates images for each of the segments and then it converts the, it animates the images and then stitches the whole thing together. But understand that that's how it works. Once the models extend, once it becomes fifteen seconds instead of, you know, five. And now that there are different models that are good at different things, some are better at editing in the person. So you may go through like a three, maybe an image first,

then you convert it to this kind of video and then you edit it. That video, you go video to video. So you go text to image, image to video and then video to video so it's like four steps for each of the individual like five to ten second say intervals but the thing is once you have it automated then you actually have like you can set up an advisory panel so you've got your director you've got your visual you've got like four or five different people well you you spit out the image and then they review the image until it meets a certain criteria so they're like so anyway there's a lot of processing that goes on right this is the kind of stuff that again manually would

take forever it may take five hours of processing six hours of processing but it's six hours of computer processing and at the end you get something pretty good well by the time this year's over with the way that these things are advancing i truly think you're going to have full full movies it's amazing So maybe we'll turn our book into a movie. Some other thing for a screenplay. Yeah, I've got one. I've got one ready to go. Black Box. That's the name of it. Black Box? You got a screenplay? Really? What is it? Yeah. Can you say what it is? Yeah, so it's... You know, it's a...

how do I put this? So a guy gets hired by the government someone in the government who is, um, um, or, you know, realizing that something's gone nefarious. And so what they do is, you know, it's a trader, right? And he, um, you know, and he uses all these skillsets to figure out what the, you know, what the crooks are doing. And, um, um you know and he's pulled away into a special bunker you know where he's live you know has to live under these tough conditions because it's a closed loop deal where no one can figure out what's going on and so he only gets to leave on occasion you know what i mean to go home and and and then ultimately like his wife gets killed and so he has

to send his kids off to someplace in Europe, you know, to protect them. And, uh, and then ultimately like they end up, it's kind of funny how they end up it's, using, you could almost use some of this stuff in there, how they move money to, to, um, Obviously, we talk about manipulated markets, how they move money to influence what's going on. So they find a point in time where they know pretty much what the market's going to do. And then they know that they've got the quote unquote bad guys ready to influence it. But what they do is they mask it with a bunch of different traders, faux traders that come in and mask what's going on and confuse the other side.

And then they ended up winning and basically saving the system. So that's it in a nutshell. So have you written this? Is this a book or a screenplay? Yeah, I mean, it's probably eighty pages worth of stuff and I just add to it every once I'll just be running or doing something in a while. and I'll have another idea for it, you know, like a little. Oh, that would fit in there. so it's just I've sort of built it You know, over time, just added to it over. It's probably been eight years. I don't know. I've probably been adding to it. So at some point, maybe I'll do something with it now that you can actually turn it into a video. Yeah, you should totally do that. it wouldn't be hard to do like a

I mean, actually, trailer of it. and then see and then yeah again by the end of the year you could probably turn the whole thing into a movie yeah no it'd be fun i've always wanted to do that now we can write books in fifteen minutes and we can put it gets get a bigger machine and create a movie and you know what two three days you could probably create a movie i don't know this time next year we're gonna be on this podcast and craig is gonna create his movie in real time during the q a Actually, I would not be surprised. I actually would not be surprised. That's where I think that this stuff is going. Well, that's awesome. Well, that sounds good. I look forward to seeing that develop.

Yeah, it's been fun. just that's the way I like to do You know, things is I'm not really like just sit down and bang something out like that. You know, two weeks, a month. Some writers, they just go into hibernation and they just write and write and write. For me, it's just been, you know, you come up with the idea and that's the whole thing, right? You know, black box trading, black box. You don't really know what's going on. Nobody really knows what's going on is, you know, in these black boxes. And so that's the key is trying to figure it out. So it's been fun listening to different events that occur. and, you know, taking a concept from it and say, wouldn't it be funny if,

you know what I mean? And then just adding that in there. So it's just been a compilation of what's really gone on out in the world, you know, over time, but just adding, um, know plus where you think it's going you know i mean this is kind of we're talking about you know that event what would be really interesting is if we could put enough stuff in there to actually you know get the canary in the coal mine before this event occurs write the movie you know there's something to that calling it out ahead of time wouldn't that be fun i mean that would be something else you've got to work lutnik in there somewhere though i'm telling you There's a Lutnik Brock Pierce angle that should be explored.

We'll put it in there. We'll do it. So this guy, Awesome. he should discover who Satoshi is. There's another angle for you. Yeah. Yeah, because he calls, who's the attorney he calls out in Florida? Meyer Lansky's attorney, yeah. You've got several arcs here. There you go. Yeah, they do it over lunch. You know, they meet over lunch, right? In some little tiny little diner or some little deli, you know, and talk it over. A laundromat. That's good. Awesome. Well, it's eleven o'clock, All right. so we're on five hours. So do you have any other any parting thoughts that you want to share?

I think we hit it pretty well tonight. We covered RAID six drives, RAID ten drives. We wrote a book. I'd say it was a pretty productive night. Great productive night. Awesome. All right. Well, thank you for coming on. I thought this was a great episode. I hope people got something out of it. I hope people start thinking about some parallels and looking at what's going on. And again, don't be a victim because bad things are coming our way, but we don't have to be victims to We can build our way out. them. Get out front of it. Yep. All right. Well, have a good night. And I'll be back Thursday at six PM tentatively to talk about confidential layer. At least that'll be part of it in

a general overview and part of what will be probably a multi-series. And then we'll take it from there. Hopefully I'll have my raid raid drive set up all going. Yep. I look forward to that one. Yep. Awesome. All right. Have a good night. Thanks. Good night. Bye. Ooh. Live free or die, but death's not the worst. It's waking up empty, it's dying of thirst. Trading your days for insurance and pills while the machine builds your cage and you're paying the bills.

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