S2E9 Hijacking Bitcoin Part 1/Top 10 Nutrition Lies

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tether, USDC, they making me twitch. Civil theft, they seize what's mine, but Zeno's my shield, confidential's divine. Hail to the thief, they stole our dreams, Bitcoin reserve built on our screams. Hide with Zeno, confidential, A is the key, BTC, E, BC's private, now we're free. Hail to the thief, but we'll rise again. Crypto's our fight, we'll break the chain. Freedom's the goal, we'll make it true. Zeno, confidential, we'll see it through.

Girl, you know it's hard to understand How they change Bitcoin from what we planned Satoshi's vision fading away Now Roger Ver's gotta pay, oh baby They claim he owes When he paid what they asked for, yeah Now they broke Attorney privilege at his

door Although they try to take control Bitcoin cash keeps Satoshi's gold And they can't stop the truth we know Baby, big blocks were the way to go The way to go When doin' on years is what they say Following rules along the way But money needs to flow free.

That's what Roger helped us see. Oh, baby. Oh, baby. Why? Tell me why. Did they have to change the code? When? Oh, when. Will they let our people go? How? Tell me how. Can they sleep at night knowing what they did? Although they try to take control Bitcoin cash keeps Satoshi's goals And they can't stop the truth we know Baby, big blocks were the way to go Roger Ver,

fighting for our freedom Don't let them take. Don't let them take. What was meant to be for you and me. Udo, they try to take control Bitcoin and cash keep Satoshi's gold And they can't stop the truth we know Baby,

big blocks were the way to go So I got to stand up because I'm just so excited about Bitcoin. I can't talk about it while sitting down. Anybody here that's sick of the government inflating the money supply to pay to kill people all around the world? Stop using their money. Use Bitcoin. The answer is here. We can put a stop to all of that. You don't have to support them in any way. Start using Bitcoin. There are so many websites that accept Bitcoin now. More and more are coming online every day. If you have business, you need to start accepting Bitcoin. What Bitcoin allows every single person in this room and on the planet who has access to the internet,

you can have your own private bank account. It's called a Bitcoin account. Right. And it's impossible for the government to seize your account. It's mathematically impossible for anyone to block you from sending or receiving money with anyone else anywhere in the world. And if you're careful about how you use it, it can be done anonymously as well. This totally strips governments control over the money supply way. There's nothing they can do about it. There's no way they can stop it. The only way they could stop it would be to shut down the entire Internet in the entire world. And that's not going to happen. This is what every libertarian's absolute dream come true. It's here.

It's called Bitcoin. And we need to spread the word to everybody about it. And I'm glad you guys are here. your questions about it. And we're here to answer And when you're done learning about it here today, tell your friends, tell your family, help them set up Bitcoin wallets. Help it. Tell everybody that you know about Bitcoin. Anytime you need to buy something, ask the merchant if they'll allow you to pay in Bitcoin. And anytime you receive US dollars, convert them to Bitcoins, then use them as Bitcoins. We need to spread this. And the world is going to be a much, much, much better place because of it. And it's not a question of if this is going to happen. It's just a question of how

soon it's going to happen. And with your help, we can make it happen sooner rather than later. But at the end of the day, I think there'll be know your customer this, there'll be anti-money laundering that, there'll be some tax regulations, there'll be some back and forth over what you can do, there'll be concerns about privacy. That's why I look at Bitcoin and I think... it's pretty clear if if the use cases store a value well like seven point eight billion people on earth need a store of value and probably the value of that is a hundred to three hundred trillion dollars right that's enough that's good if the use case is currency replace the dollar and the euro that seems

like it's I mean that's just intentionally inflammatory we don't need to replace the euro and the dollar the bankers are going to be upset about replacing the zero and the dollar I don't think it's going to happen, and not in the next decade or two decades, so we don't need to get wrapped around the axle on that. And if the use case is medium of exchange and payment, like we don't really need to pay for a pizza with it. We don't need to pay for a Starbucks coffee with it. I mean, that's already solved by Alibaba and PayPal and Square and Apple Pay and Amazon and Google Pay. And it's, you know, they can be regulated and Visa and MasterCard. So you can leave Visa and MasterCard alone.

You can leave the dollar and the euro alone. We can agree to pay taxes separately. We cannot, you know, we cannot. Welcome back to the Aaron Day Show. This is season two, episode nine. And boy, isn't Michael Saylor a cuck. That video just shows that is the whole hijacking Bitcoin argument in one, you know, basically three minute and twelve second video that shows everything that's happened to it. Rogers talk from twenty twelve. a Liberty Forum where he explained what Bitcoin was and how it was intended to be, and then what Michael Saylor is saying now. And that just shows you a night and day contrast.

And so I guess we could call that the end of the podcast, but nevertheless, there's more detail to go into and welcome back tonight. Again, it's actually been quite a stretch doing these every day. So this is gonna be fun as we get into days and more weeks into this, quite a bit to put the content together. tonight we're going to be talking about two different things we're going to talk about kind of part one of hijacking bitcoin and then we're going to talk about top ten nutrition lies so if you're just following along this is uh day three of seven at least seven I'm actually gonna go beyond seven days for this fast but uh at least seven days uh where I'm teaching people about fasting and

using the fastest way to draw attention to roger veer's situation so just as the general update roger's facing a hundred nine years in prison still awaiting extradition which could happen literally any minute now he has been trapped in spain now for three hundred and thirty nine days and this is day three of the fast And I want to say last night was great. Well, we'll get to that in a second. But as a disclaimer, this fast is my personal effort. This isn't an official part of the Free Roger Now campaign. This isn't coordinated or directed or in any way involving Roger directly. I am doing this of my own initiative. So for today, what we're going to do is... recap briefly what happened

yesterday and then go through first kind of the fasting update because day three is actually a critical milestone if you're doing prolonged fasting so I'll walk about and also describe through what all that's today's fasting experience today's Roger focus topic and then we'll talk about which is hijacking Bitcoin and then talk about action steps and a group chat which I encourage you if you want to participate in a group chat last night was absolutely incredible we had Sal the agorist We had IM for IM. We had Dan O'Neill. it actually went until almost midnight. And I mean, It was just me and Sal at the end, but just a phenomenal conversation. In fact, I haven't even had time to put

together the clips yet. Usually when I do one of these podcasts, I make clips and then I schedule them to go out on various social media sites scheduled over a month or two because there are so many clips and so many of the best clips uh I use ai to help kind of sort through it all and so many of the best clips were actually the discussion and the group chat and the q a so this is where you know none of it's you know pre-planned it's just people having a an honest conversation and that's where some of the best stuff comes out so if you want to participate in that you're welcome to and uh you know I'll send out the stream yard link at the end of the podcast I want to reiterate that the

whole purpose of this, what I've been doing with Daylight, even how I got into trying to defend CBDCs and everything else, is actually more around trying to help people take back their own agency. We spend so much time now focusing on white knights. Is it going to be Musk? Is it going to be Trump? Is it going to be RFK Jr. ? that's going to solve all of our problems. And of course, the answer to all that is it's going to be none of them. It's up to us. We make thirty thousand decisions each day and we have the ability to control our own thoughts, our own emotions and actions. And I'm going to spend a lot of time as we're doing these daily kind of showing you what I've

learned over the last you know well more than six years but really kind of hardcore in the last six years on how to do that because fixing the money is not in and of itself enough to change the world people have to change themselves and the thing is you know we're all programmed we've been programmed by all of these outside institutions and so it's time to take that control back and I actually think fasting is one of the best ways to do that. talk about an opportunity to not I mean, only take control of your own health, but when you are in a fasted state, you are also incredibly present and you are really doing a lot of internal work and figuring out kind of because you're in this

kind of state of survival, you are dealing with thoughts and your own emotions. And a lot of hardcore stuff comes up. So it's a very exciting process with fasting. And again, I'm about solutions, not about participating in politics. This is why I'm big in telling people, yeah, ditch the dollar. Don't just ditch the dollar. Use privacy coins. Use alternative forms of currency. Don't complain about public health. Take control of your own health. Start figuring out how all of this works. Start fasting. Because as I will show tonight, we've been lied to. I'm used to doing this weekly or not even weekly, but yesterday's episode was a great episode. I mean, the clips from that,

we talked about Roger's impact on the world, not only from the standpoint of being a pioneer in crypto, but he's an investor in biotech, all kinds of other organizations. But he's also a huge champion of liberty, supporting multiple causes and people. He's a humanitarian. And so there are a lot of clips from yesterday that are testimonials from people that have been impacted by Roger. I think it's important to get that story out there because a lot of people in crypto have a bad name because, frankly, the space seems to attract a lot of scammy people. And Roger is not. Roger is a thoroughly principled person who has been dedicated to spreading economic freedom and peace around the world.

And people are just not familiar with all of the great things that he's done, in part because he's done it privately. So now is a great opportunity for us to take some of these videos and share these videos and share these stories about Roger as he's facing this Biden era crypto lawfare that threatens, you know, basically to put his entire life at risk in prison. So again, just as a A reminder, I'll be speaking at Liberty Forum later this month, so April the twenty fifth. That should be an interesting one. The panels about what happened to crypto adoption, which, you know, again, relative to Roger, a lot of these people, including Bruce and myself, learned about Bitcoin from

Roger from that speech that I showed at the very beginning. And I'll play again here during the podcast. And so we've gone from people talking about using this alternative currency to stop central bank tyranny and to spread economic liberty to now, you know, a lot of these talks at Liberty Forum are about the Bitcoin strategic reserve and advocating for it at the national level. And at the state level, we've lost our way. And so hopefully I can provide some interesting perspective as, as well, Joel, who's an OG on this, but hopefully, uh, there are a lot of people new to Bitcoin and new to cryptocurrency that don't even know, which we'll talk about tonight, that it was intended to be

used as a currency. And so we have to bring that back and we need to bring back the Roger. Twenty-twelve energy. I'll be at ETH dam. May the ninth through the eleventh speaking, and I'll have more about this next week when I talk about expanding the FAST and expanding this overall program. Roger has a motion to dismiss hearing in LA. It is May the twelfth. at one thirty p.m and so I'm going to be attending that and I recommend people attend it does help to show public support and to show the government that we're not going to just let this issue uh die or forget about roger we're going to continue to amplify this information until until we actually get justice and until until roger is free

but I do recommend if you're going to go get refundable tickets, because these things have a tendency to change this one's already this hearings already changed twice. And also, you know, with with luck and and you know, hopefully, the right focus from the administration, maybe Rogers case will be dropped and the hearing will never even have to take place. Oops, I want to mention this. So Porkfest is huge. So we're going to bring back peer-to-peer digital cash at Porkfest, people learned about which is where a lot of Bitcoin and actually used Bitcoin. People spend seven days, an entire week in Lancaster, New Hampshire at Porkfest using alternative currencies. Nobody's using fiat.

Nobody's using credit cards. There's an entire area called Agora Alley. And last night, talking to Sal Diagoras, he's excited now because he's a big fan of Zeno. And he's been to Porkfest. So I think he's going to show up and even have a table and bring a three-D printer and maybe the ability to three-D print guns. I mean, it's going to be... an incredible event and it's an opportunity for us to reset and go back to the energy and enthusiasm of how we can use cryptocurrency and alternative currencies to spread freedom instead of this diversion and people talking about partnering with government and banks and all of these other things. today's fasting update. So I want to walk through

So today is a huge milestone. So I had this timeline for a forty day fast. in the very first episode of this series. And on day one, the metabolic shift begins, but what I'll talk about in more detail today, by day three, you've rebooted your entire immune system. and I'll talk about how that works you know scientifically and what's actually going on behind the scenes but this is a really important day it's also a very challenging day so I've been a bit I have been a bit tired today this is one of those kind of you know it's a threshold day from tomorrow on it and then tomorrow you know actually gets a little little better and then day seven it gets even better so these things kind of

move and then you hit a crisis and then and then all of a sudden you're at a new So today is probably the level. worst day of the entire fast, whether it's a seven day fast or a forty day fast. Today is kind of is kind of the peak. And so I'll walk through that. But very excited to have hit this threshold. Actually started this at seven thirty three days ago. So I'm beyond the three day period. And so what today is about What day three is about is autophagy awaking. And what autophagy is, is it's where your cells basically start cleaning up the trash and getting rid of and recycling old materials in the cell. And what happens when this happens is that you see an immediate

reduction in inflammation. And having done this several times, I will tell you that you see it everywhere. I've had inflammation at various points, I mean, you know, like carpal tunnel, I've had issues with with my feet from time to time, I've actually even sinus issues, sinus issues completely go away, as you do a long term fast. So this is really, you know, healing time, once you once autophagy kicks in, and you are really resetting your entire body in your entire immune system. I even think that from a strategic perspective, doing a fast with the changing of the seasons every three months is something that I, you know, I'm going to try to work in because I think, you know,

as the seasons change and, and everything else, this is a big opportunity to kind of reboot the immune system. So what's actually going on here, as I mentioned with autophagy, it's really cells eating junk. They start recycling damaged parts, which reduces inflammation. And how it works is at this point in time, we've switched away from burning glycogen. We've burned all of our glycogen stores, all of our carbohydrate stores, and now What we are using as a fuel source is fat itself. And so the adipose tissue is being broken down in the liver. That's producing ketones. And those ketones are the energy source now that's fueling everything that we're doing.

And so that's the magic ingredient here. And again, a lot of misconceptions. you have to have sugar to People are, oh, have brain function and all of this other stuff. you don't have to eat sugar. And it's like, well, Your body can actually produce, you can produce these things without actually consuming having consumed them as the raw material. So many things about nutrition are completely false, and I'm going to touch on five of them here tonight. So there are three kind of memes that I put together. So these are important factors and I actually experienced all three of these today in terms of the need to do these things. By day three, because you're going through this autopsy process and

your body is cleansing itself of kind of bad cells, you need to kind of get that out of your system. So it's critical to actually hydrate, to flush this stuff out of your system. And so you might have brain fog. And so actually, you're now starting to eliminate that brain fog, but it's absolutely imperative to have enough water. But it isn't just water itself, as I've mentioned before, and I'll have a slide every night that I do this. You absolutely have to have salt and you absolutely have to have electrolytes. And I recommend Dr. Berg's electrolytes because it's really heavy on potassium, which is really needed. And I didn't have enough yesterday and woke up with

on kind of the verge of cramps. The other thing that's important to rest. So this is day three is not a day to be trying to push yourself in any way, shape or form. So I didn't lift weights today. I actually didn't even go for a walk today. I just didn't have the energy. I literally spent all day just working on this presentation. I didn't even have the energy to, to do clips. So I was doing like, I do a section of the presentation. And then, you know, that would be a stopping point. And then I'd have to just kind of rest for a while and then come back. Whereas normally, I can just kind of power through this. And so Rest is important. And meditation helps too. I actually took an hour and

a half long meditation during the middle of the day today. And I'll talk more about meditation in future podcasts. But meditation is incredibly powerful. And I know a lot of people either aren't familiar with it or maybe have some kind of a woo-woo thing to it. And I will tell you, there's actually quite a bit of science behind it now that... is understandable and the works of Dr. Joe Dispenza and others, which I'll share with everyone. But I had a terrific meditation today and it was an opportunity for me to kind of reset, get rid of some of the fog, boost my energy up a little bit. So it's definitely a hack as you're going through this process and something that helps you

and when you're doing that in this state whatever unresolved issues that you have you know are going to start to come up during this fasting process and so this is a really good opportunity for you to get at you know whatever's eating you in your subconscious and and to help you from a you know personal transformation perspective the other thing is it's great to track your journey as you're doing the fasting. I wish I had done that. You know, the two hundred days that I fasted before, I didn't write it down. I remember a lot of it, or at least I remember, you know, the peak of it. But it's actually good to write down some of the specifics. Like I felt this way or this happened to me.

You know, biologically, I was dealing with this issue because actually once you understand this more, it is actually a very repeatable process. And since day three is really the worst of all the days, there are a lot of people that never push beyond day three because they just make the assumption that, oh, okay, day three, it just seems to be getting progressively worse. So I can't even imagine what day seven would be like, not realizing that by the time you get to day seven, you feel ten times better than you did before you even started fasting. So it's one of those things where it's not a linear progression. these are some of the typical questions that people have or issues

challenges that people are dealing with you do have reduced hunger and so that's actually a normal normal part of day three but you have to make sure that you do focus on remaining hydrated so that you don't get headaches you don't get cramps and that you're actually flushing the toxins out of your body you will get detoxes symptoms and I did have a little bit of a headache for a very short period of time uh sleep changes yeah I mean that was that was true for me I mean I was you know again I'd work on something and then it's like all right I gotta go lay down or I gotta go meditate that wasn't the case with the first the first two days so this will be hopefully I other parts of the process

mean we'll see there are where uh you have a little bit of lull in energy but this should be the worst the worst of the uh you know my energy level during this process you will get energy dips and you will have bad breath because of ketosis, because your body is using ketones that does produce bad breath. That is a, an understood function of this. So you're going to want to, you know, rinse with water or do whatever you need to do to address that. So kind of the spotlight for today, just from a, you know, the power of fasting perspective today really is an important day because it does represent that immune complete immune system that reboot so this is where the damaged cells have been

cleared and new ones have been generated so this is a truly a milestone in the process but it's also the peak of autophagy and so you know because of that that's why you have the lot of of these other headaches and you have a issues and hence the need for maybe a little bit more water than usual So kind of my personal reflections. So just this is this is serving in a way is my journal. So I've talked this through every day, and then I take the transcript of it. And then that that's going to serve as my journal. But when I woke up this morning, your first of all, I woke up with it during the middle of the night with what I thought were about to become cramps. So I don't know a better way

to say it than that they weren't full on cramps. But it felt like I was about to be on the verge of having cramps. And that that happened two or three times. And so I slept in a little bit this morning. I got up at seven thirty. I'm usually up at at six or six thirty. And so I definitely slept in during this process. My heart rate variability was in a normal range. I got the right amount of deep sleep. According to my eight sleep, I was under for REM sleep, which actually didn't didn't feel right. But nevertheless, reasonable overall sleep. But, you know, I knew right away I had not had enough electrolytes yesterday with with the cramping. So immediately jumped in and took some, uh,

Dr. Berg's electrolytes and then started, you know, started at it. But as I said, today was a really kind of intermittent day of work. So it's like work on a piece of thing here, take a rest piece of thing here, um, and meditate. And so, uh, kind of as I outlined, as is normally the case, I, you know, my experience did fit kind of what the normal mode is. I didn't have any out of the norm experiences, uh, with this. Uh, you know, I, I felt, I felt okay mentally. I mean, I, I was, uh, I didn't have as much mental energy as I might otherwise have, And again, quite as much focus. part of that is just clearing things out through autophagy. Emotionally, I felt great.

I mean, I actually, and when I meditated, very positive experience meditating. I had a very, And we'll say I am very, I mean, obviously I'm dedicated to this process, but I'm also very optimistic that uh roger's gonna get a positive outcome and and I you know I also think that that the work that all of us are doing with this fast and the more of us that share this and you know the longer this fast goes on I think the more impact that's going to have as well so so I did have a you know fairly positive and I'll tell you on days when when I don't have uh a positive day I do enjoy sharing fasting because again I I've it's changed my life and not just in a weight from a weight loss

perspective the weight loss part is actually probably the least significant part of it it's it's everything else that comes that comes out of it so other than that those are really the key Dr. Mark Hyman, M.D. : features for me personally on day three, and so the reflections that that I want to have on this in you know again I'm going to repeat a lot of these every day, but I added a couple of others. Dr. Mark Hyman, M.D. : electrolytes are key, I would recommend Dr Berg above and beyond others, because the potassium always do salt. uh I do coffee if you you can also do tea um but use salt and if you're gonna do coffee definitely do salt um and then meditation is great and I'll teach you

more about that and different ways of doing it if you're not familiar with it but meditation is also a game changer and then journaling will help you along the way as well so with that said It doesn't seem like there are any questions. So I'm going to move off of the fasting part and move right into hijacking Bitcoin. And before I do this, I actually want to say what the purpose of this is. And so the purpose of this is not to even relitigate the past. And I will say I was going to put together a diagram for this, but I ran out of time. The target audience here isn't to reengage with Bitcoin Maxis. Bitcoin Maxis are, in my opinion, an absolute lost cause. And when I say Bitcoin Maxis,

I'll actually further define it. People that have been Bitcoin Maxis since before the actual chain split, before you had Bitcoin Cash So before twenty seventeen. and some of the others. So the people that were Bitcoin Maxis before that and were aware of what went on in that process that are still Bitcoin Maxis, those people are in general a lost cause because they've essentially sold out their own philosophy and their own ideology for their gains in fiat. And so I've had countless interactions with these people and their general mindset is they'll rationalize anything. I mean, they'll support BlackRock, they'll support civil asset forfeiture, they will support soft war and people from the

military talking about how to use Bitcoin mining as a strategic part of the defense strategy. And what it will take for them to admit to themselves that they've basically caved on their principles, it's really almost impossible to get someone to do that. And so it's not a good use of time. But what's important about this are actually the new people that are being introduced to Bitcoin that have never heard of this. And by the way, this is like ninety nine point nine nine nine percent of the people have never heard of Bitcoin. the block size wars. They've never heard of hijacking Bitcoin. They've never heard of the fact that people actually used to use Bitcoin

to buy things and to sell things like, like, and that is most people. And I say this with some experience because I have traveled all over the country and I've done workshops on CBDCs and these, and the people that come to these workshops, they're not crypto people, but they're people that have woken up recently. And generally they're people that, you know, weren't talking about or thinking about the federal reserve or ending the fed seven years ago, but because of COVID now it is a, it's a big issue for them. And so these are people that are motivated. These are people that are interested. These are people that are engaged. And almost none of them have heard about hijacking Bitcoin,

and none of them were aware that you could use Bitcoin. The general understanding is that Bitcoin is just a speculative investment or maybe digital gold. And actually, most people have a pretty negative opinion of it that I've met with. even in that regard but as I like to say when I would survey people more people in the outside world have heard of sam bankman freed than satoshi nakamoto so so I think the point here is it's not to be combative uh or even to pick a fight with the maxis it's to actually think about how to start laying out some of the information in this book because I've had other situations you know I was at chris martin's event for peak prosperity

And I got more comments from my section of the talk about hijacking Bitcoin than everything else. I had people come up to me and say, wait a minute, Michael Saylor did what? You should only use Bitcoin He said what? for store of value. It shouldn't compete with the dollar. I mean, people just have not been presented, not only with the information in hijacking Bitcoin, they haven't actually seen Michael Saylor has been all of the stuff that saying in kind of a condensed clip out of his own mouth. And so people are really surprised by this. And I think a lot of people that have gotten into Bitcoin, it's kind of FOMO, but they don't understand what it is. So they're just kind of like

FOMOing into it, but without any understanding. And so once they get the understanding, once they understand what they're FOMOing into, it does change their perception. And I will tell you, I have changed a lot of people's minds, or I wouldn't even say changed their minds. I've educated them on something that they were just loosely familiar with, but may have even been invested. And it was a big shift for them, a complete shift for them. So it is... important to get this information out there. And so for those watching, if you're new to Bitcoin, there was a Bitcoin white you need to understand that paper that was written by the creator Satoshi Nakamoto that outlined how

the whole thing was supposed to work. And in the very beginning, the very title of it is a peer to peer electronic cash system. So this was, there's no store of value language in here. And so the abstract says, a purely peer-to-peer version of electronic cash would allow online payments to be sent directly from one party to another without going through a financial institution. That is everything that you need to know. So this isn't about BlackRock working with BlackRock. This isn't about big financial institutions working with each other. This isn't about a store of value. This isn't about any of these other things. It was and it was launched right after the two thousand and eight

financial collapse with kind of the understanding that the banking system was, you know, fragile at best and corrupt for sure. And so So what you see with Michael Saylor and everything else is just a complete perversion. clip again because I had it at the intro, So I'm going to play that but maybe everyone wasn't here. So I'm going to play this because you could just watch this clip and it'll sum up everything that you need to know about this debate. Talk about it while sitting down. So. Anybody here that's sick of the government inflating the money supply to pay to kill people all around the world? Stop using their money. Use Bitcoin.

The answer is here. We can put a stop to all of that. You don't have to support them in any way. Start using Bitcoin. There are so many websites that accept Bitcoin now. More and more are coming online every day. If you have business, you need to start accepting Bitcoin. What Bitcoin allows every single person in this room and on the planet who has access to the internet, you can have your own private bank account. It's called a Bitcoin account, and it's impossible for the government to seize your account. It's mathematically impossible for anyone to block you from sending or receiving money with anyone else anywhere in the world. And if you're careful about how you use it,

it can be done anonymously as well. This totally strips Government's control over the money supply way. There's nothing they can do about it. There's no way they can stop it The only way they could stop would be to shut down the entire internet in the entire world and that's not gonna happen I this is what every libertarians absolute dream come true. It's here It's called Bitcoin and we need to everybody about it And I'm spread the word to glad you guys are here and we're here to answer your questions about it And when you're done learning about it here today tell your friends tell your family help them set up Bitcoin wallets help it Tell everybody that you know about Bitcoin.

Anytime you need to buy something, ask the merchant if they'll allow you to pay in Bitcoin. And anytime you receive U.S. dollars, convert them to Bitcoins, then use them as Bitcoins. We need to spread this, and the world is going to be a much, much, much better place because of it. And it's not a question of if this is going to happen. It's just a question of how soon it's going to happen. And with your help, we can make it happen sooner rather than later. But at the end of the day, I think there'll be no your customer this, there'll be anti-money laundering that, there'll be some tax regulations, there'll be some back and forth over what you can do, there'll be concerns about privacy.

That's why I look at Bitcoin and I think, It's pretty clear. If the use case is store of value, well, like, seven point eight billion people on Earth need a store of value, and probably the value of that is a hundred to three hundred trillion dollars, right? That's enough. That's good. If the use case is currency, replace the dollar and the euro, that seems like it's, I mean, that's just intentionally inflammatory. We don't need to replace the euro and the dollar. The bankers are going to be upset about replacing the euro and the dollar. I don't think it's going to happen and not in the next decade or two decades. So we don't need to get wrapped around the axle on that. And if the use case is

medium of exchange and payment, we don't really need to pay for a pizza with it. We don't need to pay for a Starbucks coffee with it. that's already solved by Alibaba I mean, and PayPal and Square and Apple Pay and Amazon and Google Pay. And they can be regulated in Visa and MasterCard. So you can leave Visa and MasterCard alone. You can leave the dollar and the Euro alone. We can agree to pay taxes. We cannot, you know, we cannot. So, again, that kind of that actually highlights everything you need to know about where it was and then and then what the white paper says and

then what Michael Saylor is saying now. And so so the challenge here is that most people have never seen Roger's version of this. Most of these new people have never read the white paper. A lot of these people don't know what a white paper is, have never heard that this document exists, let alone they haven't read it. And it's almost like you can actually see there are people that are largely like there's a class of twenty seventeen Bitcoin. You get a new influx of people into Bitcoin when there's a bull run. So you've got the class of twenty seventeen and you've got the class of twenty twenty one. And they almost have like they do have definable features. There are specific things

that they believe based on the indoctrination and the information that they were exposed to at various points in time. And so, you know, earlier, if you're talking about the people that were involved during the. original, you know, fork wars and things that we're going to talk about. I mean, a lot of them had read the Bitcoin standard and so forth. And now there's now there's you know, and that's still a part of the ongoing false narrative and propaganda, but then now people aren't even reading that. Now people are just at the point where it's like, oh, I saw the Bitcoin conference or I saw a politician talking about this. I saw Cynthia Loomis. And so we're further removed

from people actually having any information at all. we're like way down in Plato's cave I mean, at this point with all of it. And so it's a challenge as much as anything else. So I'm gonna present some of the high level information from just part one of the book, but then, but again, To me, the challenge is more not to pick a fight with the Maxis, but how do we make people aware of some of these just basic points? Here's an example from the book. This was an early meme or ad for Bitcoin. This was what it was all This was even, I believe, about at the time. on the website for Bitcoin. And it was comparing Bitcoin to Western Union. You could send up to fifty dollars using

Western Union for a five dollar fee. And it was only one cent to do this anywhere in the world with Bitcoin. And you didn't have to go to a Western Union branch or This is what people were excited about. anything like that. This is what it was about at the beginning of Bitcoin. I guarantee you the class of twenty seventeen people involved in Bitcoin now are the class of twenty twenty one had never seen this before. They've never even heard of this. This is a foreign concept to them entirely. The other thing is that's really eye opening. is how much of a squandered opportunity it was. I mean, to the point that how heavily, you know, the ramp up was with Bitcoin by the end of twenty seventeen.

These are just some of the large merchants that were taking Bitcoin directly over stock dot com, Microsoft, Newegg, Expedia. There were some Subway sandwich franchises that were taking Bitcoin steam. And so people were really using this for commerce. And it was a really exciting time because the price started to jump in twenty seventeen because people were actually using it. And then people started buying it because they were seeing that people were using it. And then it got hobbled and got basically neutered. And and so the fees went from in the Western Union example, one cent to now the fees jumped to an average of like twenty

eight dollars um and really even closer to fifty dollars so you had these big merchants that were selling things for bitcoin and the fees were fifty dollars and if you were trying to you know pay at the basic level lowest tier for speed you know it would take seven to fourteen days to complete a transaction. So of course, Bitcoin shifted from being a medium of exchange to a store value because it didn't work, it broke, they and they broke it. And it wasn't intended to be this way. It wasn't designed to be hobbled like this. And I'll and I'll walk through this. But I think this is a really important slide. Because more than anything else, when I talk to people,

that are new to this whole concept, they didn't know any of this. They would be stunned to learn that these big retailers were taking Bitcoin. And so this is from the book. There's kind of a great section in there that complains, that compares the original design of Bitcoin versus the hijacked version. So what was the purpose, the core principle? The purpose of the original design was digital cash for internet payments, for online payments, right in the abstract, right at the very beginning of the white paper. What's the hijacked version? Store of value even without functioning as money. the Michael Saylor comment is the Again, dominant view most and you even now have politicians

and the Federal Reserve and everybody else coming out and saying, oh, well, you know, maybe Bitcoin is digital gold. And by the way, that's not a win. It's not a win when politicians are saying this. It's not a win when the Federal Reserve says this. They're not conceding a loss. They're actually cheering on a sigh out. That's effectively what's going on to the point where even today, I mean, Jack Dorsey, who is no advocate for freedom, I would argue, even he came out today and said, you know, Bitcoin is useless unless it effectively, is ultimately used for I suspect he has his own motivation Now, around the things that he's doing around payments. But nevertheless, for once,

I actually agree with him. And this is clear in terms of what's going on with the original version versus hijacked. Transaction fees, extremely low by design. Satoshi early on said in the discussion forums and in other places that Bitcoin was supposed to compete with MasterCard and Visa was supposed to be able to do twenty five thousand transactions, you know, per second, like even back in the day, like as it was originally designed, it wasn't, oh, we're going to build this out now. And then and then twenty years from now, it's going to be able to compete with Visa and MasterCard. The point was to be able to do that quickly out of the gates. scalability the idea was it

would scale with block size increases which you know in a way that isn't even right because the original Bitcoin had no block size limit at all and the block size is just you know how many transactions can you put into a block so Bitcoin bitcoins are mined every ten minutes every ten minutes somebody solves a math puzzle and then whoever wins solving that math puzzle adds a new block of transactions and so it's a blockchain every ten minutes new transactions are added but you can't go back and delete the other transactions but if you limit the size of the block to say one megabyte, then that means you can only do seven transactions per second. that was never supposed to be a limit. Well,

There was no block size and it was only put in as a temporary measure as they were kind of testing the network. It was never intended to be capped. It was intended to scale as the block size increases. You weren't going to get to Visa and MasterCard levels by keeping the block size small and then having the transaction fees go up to fifty dollars because to compete with MasterCard you're not going to be able or Visa or Western Union because you still have to compete in the marketplace. Offering a digital currency that's fifty times as expensive as Western Union is not an innovation. That's not actually what people were looking for. And that and that isn't wasn't the intent. Note expectations.

The original idea behind this is a node was going to be a computer or a group of computers that actually mind a block that actually were putting computational power behind solving these math problems and that Over time, that competition was going to get fierce and fierce, and there are going to be companies investing hundreds of millions of dollars competing against one another to build data centers. And those were going to be the nodes that basically handled the transaction information and regarding the blocks every ten minutes. This hijacked version has this kind of almost like communist, okay, well, we're going to so that anybody with a you know we need to make it

hundred dollar uh or fifty dollar raspberry pi uh can can be a node and that makes no sense those nodes don't really even do anything but on top of that it just hobbles the entire network and makes the entire system unworkable and then there's the economic design so the economic design for bitcoin was this you have these block rewards every ten minutes when a miner solves one of these problems when you go back to when this was launched a miner would get fifty bitcoin every ten minutes for solving that being the first to solve that math puzzle plus whatever the transaction fees were well since the network was new and no one was using it and since it would take time to build out the network

it was very important to have these high reward amounts. But those reward amounts get cut in half every four years. So it goes from fifty to twenty five to twelve and a half, And so the whole point of et cetera. that was the whole point of the block reward was to be a subsidy to incentivize people to mine and to begin mining until such time as there were huge transaction fees coming from large volumes of transactions. So small transaction fees, but high volume. and that's fundamental to the entire economic system the hijacked version claimed that this model was flawed and then changed it to this basically it's like a cap and trade system for for carbon so we're going to artificially limit the

size of the blocks and then we're going to put in place this auction mechanism for people to be able to bid up how much they pay for transactions well again once again you have to compete with gold and mastercard and everything else like this idea that people are just going to continue to pay more and more per transaction doesn't work with basic economics and it's going to turn into a real problem uh probably at the next having because as of today and I talked about this briefly yesterday uh the blocks the bitcoin blocks are almost empty nobody's doing transactions on bitcoin And so what that means is unless people keep on buying speculatively, there will not be the the

transaction fee today was eleven cents well if you're doing seven transactions per second and you're a miner so seven transactions per second times eleven cents for the transaction that's not going to be enough for people to make money off of all of the hardware and computational power and everything that they have going into mining this and so um so that is that is actually a fatal problem for bitcoin that will be coming up with the next having so this whole debate over store of value or medium of exchange I mean you will have um you know people you have uh safety dean amas who's like the guy he's the bitcoin standard guy and so he's out there putting putting these statements

out like the real advantage of bitcoin lies in being a reliable long-term store of value not from its ability to offer ubiquitous or cheap transactions well again that's not in the white paper and and we really needed an alternative payment system and now it's absolutely essential that we have an alternative payment system think about what's going on now with all of the debanking with all of the financial surveillance that we already have with the existing dollar this isn't some thing that we have to worry about in the future The FBI is already using AI to analyze our financial transactions. The NSA is already doing bulk data collection. Just two or three weeks ago, the Treasury Department

sent out a notice to financial institutions in thirty different zip codes in California and Texas and said, you have to report on any transaction larger than two hundred dollars. The way the system works today is there's an automatic you have to automatically report transactions over ten thousand dollars this reduced that to two hundred dollars right so the existing system is highly surveilled it's highly programmable and that's before we get stable coins or cbdc's so we absolutely need the ability to have ubiquitous and and cheap transactions it's it's key to stopping absolute digital tyranny whereas uh and you know he he tries to claim he's an austrian act his

book has some austrian economics in it but he misses the fundamental point you know murray rothbard talks about this many textbooks say money has several functions a medium of exchange unit of account or measures a measure of values a store of value etc but it should be clear that all of those functions are simply corollaries of the one great function the medium of of exchange and so so somehow again people read these books they read the bitcoin standard they read this stuff they see these memes they don't think about them critically they don't understand whether it even makes any sense it's just well I read this in the book this book is popular this is now my belief system and it's been

effective um the bitcoin standard is part of how uh michael saylor switch from being a Bitcoin skeptic to whatever you want to call him now, you know, chief grifter borrowing other people's money to buy the coin. Bitcoin was also always supposed to have big blocks. Again, you know, you can, there's all kinds of documentation on this and above and all, above and beyond all else, I encourage you to buy the book and read the book. I'm just giving you kind of a cliff notes version and trying to get this information out there since Roger can't, but in a way where maybe we can start explaining the basics to people that are newly onboarded who think that, you know,

somehow if they just keep investing and they cut their own hair and dollar cost average and put all their money in, then at some point in the future, they're gonna be at the top of the pyramid of society living in a citadel and everybody else is going to be basically serfs underneath it. This is actually part of the meme and the culture of all of this. And so it's not gonna work that way. it's basically been pushed to I mean, surveillance Ponzi territory and people need to understand that we have a real big problem looming with digital tyranny. have big blocks again, So it was always supposed to Satoshi Nakamoto said it can be phased in like this, a block number is greater than this,

then max block size equals larger limit. So again, changing the block size is something that you can do by literally just changing one variable in the code, and there was never even supposed to be a block size to begin with. Gavin Andreessen, so Satoshi Nakamoto handed over basically the keys to the GitHub for Bitcoin to a guy named Gavin Andreessen. And he was always an advocate of big blocks. the plan from the beginning So a quote from him, was to support huge blocks. The one megabyte hard limit was always a temporary denial of service prevention measure. Mike Hearn, who's also was an early, I think one of the first five developers. Bitcoin was built for massive scale. and did not run into

inherent technological limitations. Instead, the project was taken over by a small group of software developers who redesigned the whole system. And then lastly, the CEO of BitPay, which is one of, if not the largest point of sales vendor for crypto, He said, if you told me in twenty eleven that we would be sitting here in twenty seventeen and we hadn't bumped up this block size, I would have said there's no way that could happen. So, again, all the OGs, everybody was involved. The early core developers and everything else were just kind of befuddled by this idea that this one megabyte limit that was put in as a temporary denial of service measure was going to become the absolute

limit and that and that the whole narrative was going to shift to digital gold and then we'll build things on other layers it's just it's mind-boggling and so I'm not going to spend a lot of time on this a lot of text here too but the whole point of the nodes this idea that you know somehow you're empowered because you're using an outdated slow fifty dollar uh raspberry pi and that makes you participating in the network I mean it's kind of like it's the participation prize of participating in in this network. It was always intended, and the quote from Satoshi Nakamoto, eventually when we have client only implementations, the blockchain size won't matter much. Network nodes would

consolidate and there would be more pooled mining and GPU farms and users would run client only. So again, you as the end user wouldn't need to be running a node. You wouldn't have expensive equipment or whatever. This would be something that you would have people, large institutions competing over mining and basically solving these math puzzles. I was always from the design. And so one big part of it is again, so technocracy is all about artificial scarcity the whole idea that I talk about all the time with technocracy is to have a you know one world global government and one global digital currency that is backed by energy credits and the and the energy credits are uh in essence

uh that's a that's false scarcity that's saying well you know carbon is the only you know and we're only going to measure things by carbon it means you're going to limit actually even the exploration for other other types of, you know, it artificially limits things. But what we now know the technocrats are doing is they're going up and buying up forests and they're front running this so that they basically can have a control over the new artificial scarcity. But the idea that BTC, that big blocks are unworkable and not decentralized, you know, again, you really have to be a Luddite and take a very pessimistic view. Satoshi even talked about how that, you know, the technology in two thousand

and eight and two thousand and nine, he predicted that it would continue to grow based on Moore's law. And that's happened. And in some cases beyond. So download speeds have absolutely excuse me, bandwidth costs have absolutely plummeted. It was ten dollars per megabit per month in two thousand and nine. That's dropped to less than fifty percent, continues to drop. The average download speed was four megabytes per second in two thousand and nine. Now it's greater than one hundred and eighty. And somebody is actually working. Some scientists have just hit three hundred and one terabytes. per second over existing fiber networks. And so this idea that we're supposed to keep this thing

hobbled because it's unsafe because of bandwidth and these other things just doesn't match. And so it was Safie who actually made this comment. A node that can add forty two terabytes of data every year would require a very expensive computer. The network bandwidth required to process all of these transactions every day would be an enormous cost that would be clearly unworkable. complicated and expensive for a distributed network to maintain. Absolutely. One hundred percent false based on all of the data about storage costs, bandwidth and everything else. you see the technocrats have come So again, in and they've hijacked Bitcoin. I mean, there's a great quote from Hayek. The curious test of

economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about the way they about what they imagine they can design. And so the central planners at Bitcoin have created, again, their own artificial economy where they kept the block size. They pushed the financial transactions off chain into the second layers and things like Lightning Network. They've encouraged nodes for all. And then they've created an artificial fee market. I actually view the Bitcoin core, the people that hijack Bitcoin as the same in terms of ideology and how they function as the technocrats and Klaus Schwab and all of these other people that we view as being the enemy from a central bank digital

currency perspective. Well, they're the same. It's the same mindset that has hijacked Bitcoin. So there are four eras of Bitcoin that there may even be time to add a fifth. But the first era and that's kind of when I got involved and that's where Roger certainly got involved in twenty ten. The culture was tech techies and libertarians. mean the hierarchy was you had satoshi nakamoto who was this you know anonymous developer nobody knows who he is uh there was no industry development and there was no public awareness and so now you you focus to where we are right now and we went through these various stages which I'll talk about not today this is actually just part one of

hijacking bitcoin but but now where it is I mean this book was was published in I think, April the twelfth or something last year. So think about how much has changed just since this book was published. So now the culture is, well, it's price focused, but now with an emphasis on lobbyists and people pushing government officials to use a combination of taxpayer theft directly and civil asset forfeiture to drive up the price like it's it's price focused is an understatement, right? It's price focused, but now kind of moving on like to extortion. The leadership hierarchy is very much still Bitcoin core. The industry development is is mainstream,

I guess, to a point, although mainstream, I guess, in the in the sense of what industry to do what because Bitcoin doesn't actually do anything. right now. And public awareness is definitely now mainstream, mainstream and completely devoid from truthful information about the nature of Bitcoin. You know, again, because as I say, I encounter people all the time. And I will tell you, I mean, I mentioned this yesterday, this conference I was at. in New York and half the people are like, oh, Bitcoin is digital gold and we're buying. Although there was actually skepticism about it, but that was their understanding of what Bitcoin is. And then on the other hand, there are people that think

that XRP and Stellar are part of the quantum financial system and there's going to be a complete debt Jubilee and reset. And so my point is that overall, now the mainstream is completely uninformed. And it's almost like a combination of Q-level propaganda meets actual direct government propaganda. There's really not much truth or factual information involved at this point. I'm going to spend a little time talking about Lightning Network, but not a lot. Normally I would. I mean, a year ago I was like trying to explain to people why it was conceptually flawed and everything and wouldn't work. I don't need to do that anymore because even people

in Bitcoin concede that. People are not using Lightning Network. Lightning Network, the idea behind Lightning Network was you're not going to uh do transactions on the base layer there's going to be this thing called lightning network where you you basically you know move your your bitcoin some of your bitcoin to this lightning network and then you can transact there and none of those transactions are done on the blockchain so this was the scaling solution that people came up with and promised people and said, whenever this was, it's been like eight years or something. And the rumor is always it's eighteen months away from being finished. And so we're eight years in

and it's still not finished. It still doesn't work. Nobody is using it. And I'll talk about a couple of reasons that it was flawed. the argument has actually moved away from But the thing is, well okay bitcoin will become a medium of exchange at some point we just have to fix lightning people now don't even talk about there being a medium of exchange component to bitcoin they have solidified they have ossified as michael saylor says around this idea of it's only a store of value so so you know we don't even need to fight with people about lightning network they concede that bitcoin isn't going to be this and in a weird twist of fate some of these same people that are promoting the

hijacked digital gold version support stablecoins, which are digital programmable fiat. You know, again, we started with peer to peer digital cash where you use this new money that's censorship resistant outside of third parties and banks. And now we're like, OK, well, we're going to have this hobbled technocratic thing that people invest in and we're going to try to influence politicians to use taxpayer money. And then we're going to use for day to day payments, surveillance fiat in the form of stable coins. Like it's one hundred and eighty degrees away from from the white paper. The problem with Lightning Network is based on, again, the whole point of this was, well,

we have to keep the block small. Well, if you keep the block small, then to access Lightning Network, you actually have to make a transaction on the chain to access the second layer. Well, based on the one megabyte block size, it would take a hundred and twenty years to onboard people to the Lightning Network. And furthermore, you have to generally open two channels a year. I'm not gonna go into all of the details on that, but to let seven people actually access this, if you wanted to have everybody on board and using Lightning Network, you would have to have a minimum of a hundred and thirty three megabyte blocks. So again, by design, there is no way Lightning Network could have ever

worked as a solution for peer to peer cache on the second layer. The other thing is because of the way that it works and I won't go into a lot of it, but other than to say, let's say I wanted to send, you know, ten dollars to Bob, but I'm not directly connected to Bob. So I have to go through Alice. Well, if Alice doesn't have ten dollars, then I actually can't go through her. um and so what that means is the way this ends up getting set up is in order for people to be able to use the lightning network you need to have these big hubs that have enough liquidity or otherwise people can't connect through other nodes to get to the party that they want to get to well once you

have these big nodes that are centralized then that's a big source of potential censorship that's a source of being banned and then what's practically happened because this isn't a theoretical concern, it's actually played out. You had big hubs, like Exodus Wallet served as a hub. A lot of people served as hubs. And because of anti-money laundering and know your customer laws, they shut down. They were threatened and they shut down. So now you can't... So Lightning is unusable because you need to have hubs in order for it to be useful, which defeats the purpose of having it to begin with. And people don't want to serve as hubs because it's a legal liability. So... Lightning is a disaster.

I think at this point, most people concede it's a disaster. So I won't spend more time on it unless it becomes a thing where people are starting to talk again about how lightning is going to be the solution. But I will tell you, I haven't heard that lately. I've seen more rage quitting. I've seen more people kind of exiting lightning than embracing it. So that's basically that's part one today on the hijacking of Bitcoin. Again, I thought those were good points. And, you know, it it frustrates me to no end that, you know, I oh, by the way, I interviewed Roger about this is the very it's the third episode that I ever did of this podcast. So season one, episode three. And it was three weeks

before he got arrested. So he I mean, I'm sure he had big podcasts scheduled. So he'd only done a couple of, you know, small podcasts like mine. So, you know, maybe a few thousand people saw the interview. I do encourage you to check it out, I mean, he did a great job, obviously, though. of hitting these points and people just have not had the opportunity to hear him talk about this at scale. And so that. not only is that unfortunate but then what I've been trying to do a lot of the visuals that I showed you today I you know I put together and I put together some tweet threads during the bitcoin conference last year when all of these politicians and cynthia loomis and trump and rfk

when all of these people were there talking about bitcoin and broaching these ideas of the bitcoin strategic reserve I try to do my part to condense this information into memes So that people could be exposed to it. Because again, what I'm telling you is that people aren't sitting here dismissing the information in Roger's book. They haven't heard of the information. And interestingly, with all of this, with hijacking Bitcoin, this book has been around for a while. And I definitely will go into the censorship and propaganda because I've experienced it myself. No one has refuted it. the factual claims in this book this book has been out now for um almost a year and you will see people

that say you know when it when it came out and you know and I I put together a tweet on it and so a whole bunch of people got into the thread and talked about it and most of the bitcoin core people actually then blocked me as a result of that tweet thread but there were people that said well you know my friend's about to do a podcast he's going to tear this book apart he's going to go through all of it it hasn't happened yet There's no refutation to the facts in the book. So this book is very thoroughly researched with like two hundred and something footnotes. And when I read it and before I interviewed Roger, I read the book twice. I went through the to the

footnotes and I wanted to prepare myself. I mean, I'd gone through it. I was familiar with it already. But I mean, I will tell you the information in this book. is pristine and I do encourage you to get a copy of it. I'm going to switch focus now back onto the health front related to fasting because again, the fast is a great way to draw attention to Roger's cause and it's worked for Gandhi and Cesar Chavez and a whole bunch of other people. But one of the other reasons that I want to do it is it is truly a transformative process to go through. Like people like, oh, I'm worried about your health. Like don't hurt your health for Roger. I'm going to come out of this Believe me,

fast and I will be a healthier person. I'll be a more engaged person. And it's not even just about weight. I rebooted my immune system already. I mean, By day seven, I start to generate more stem cells but on top of that I you will watch as if you keep tuning into this podcast watch how um how much sharper I get in terms of just mental clarity and mental energy you'll see the benefits firsthand so I'm not hurting myself by doing this what I'm actually trying to do is help roger and help myself and then actually help other people to help themselves improve their own health using this fasting technique, which is, you know, something that is a threat to the medical complex.

And if it turns out that you can cure a whole bunch of things and fix a whole bunch of things, and you, there's no drug involved, there's no process, there's no procedure, you don't even have to buy food, then, you know, There aren't a lot of people with a financial incentive for this information becoming available. So with that, when you are in a fasted state, you do start thinking about food and you start thinking about your relationship to food, and then you start thinking about how everything works. And so what I want to share here, this isn't actually the top ten, it's the top five. I ran out of time. I'll do the second five probably tomorrow or the day after. But it's not just that

everything that we've been told about nutrition is false. It's that it's false. And none of the people that put forward the falsehoods or the propaganda were ever held accountable. And most of them gained either fame or reaped substantial financial rewards for it. And I bring that up as a way to kind of tee this up because I get into arguments with people. If you've heard me enough, you've probably heard me say, you know, public health is a depopulation death cult. I'm not saying that as like a bumper sticker comment. Having fasted for, you know, well over two hundred hours, having spent hundreds of hours, not only researching fasting while fasting, I ran a health care company.

related to financial incentives and weight management, everything else. I know how healthcare works from the inside out. I actually understand how that operates. I actually studied public health for a brief period of time at Harvard. I've seen how these systems work. I've seen who these people are. Um, I mean, I remember giving a talk at a Harvard public health, uh, a public health ethics conference. And I gave some talk about Ayn Rand and nobody knew what I was talking about. It was just, it was like a very absurd situation trying to talk to somebody about ethics in public health. Like that's actually almost a joke in and of itself. So I'm not saying these things just to be flippant.

I've actually spent a bunch of time and I want to share some of this and try to get people to start thinking about this, about how profoundly programmed we've been And how much, you know, everything in our life, why do we work nine to five? Why do we eating three meals a day, like you really start questioning everything. And when you start questioning, and then you start doing research, you find that Most of the world has been structured, you know, either with malice or to benefit a certain group of people, but it has nothing to do with, you know, this idea of, well, things are there that way for a good reason. It must have been well thought through a long time ago. And now it is what it is.

It turns out, as I'll show you today, at least with nutrition, no, it was not well thought out. And it wasn't just nutrition. people thought they were doing the right thing and they made a mistake. I want to stress that very clearly because certainly we learn things all the time. We make mistakes. That is, that's how you learn and that's how you grow. And as you're about to see, that is not what has happened with nutrition. This wasn't a, this is what we thought at the time, but you know, now we know better and now we made a correction. That's not true. So the whole idea of eating three meals a day, I went through this slide yesterday. Is that necessary? Is it a modern construct?

it's a complete scam that Well, spoiler, started in the nineteenth century. And you actually had people like Henry Ford and others that were pushing this. They were pushing this because they were moving towards a, you know, having different shifts at work. And so this was all about optimizing work schedules for factory employees. There was no aspect of this that was based on human health. So I want to stress that again, that it was not based on science. What you had was you had industrialists that then pushed the USDA, who later adopted it as guidelines, but not on the basis of science. And what you find with a lot of this is this is certainly true with I mean,

Rockefeller and obviously Bill Gates. there's a long history of this I mean, where you basically have people that want to shift the policy, and then they end up being the ones that fund the scientists, fund the research schools, and then also maneuver and get their bureaucrats in charge of these public health institutions. And so this goes back a long time. But I mean, if you've ever thought about it before, and probably you eat three meals a day. That is what most people do. There's no basis for that. So as you go through fasting and you start asking these questions, like, yeah, well, okay. All right. That has nothing to do. And even if you bought the argument of, well,

that's what it needed to be like back in the, you know, three shift industrial day, that's most people did not work in that environment. So why do we still have it? Why are we still pushing? this same thing and it goes literally all the way back to this and nobody just nobody thought to question it so uh so again the industrial leaders pushed to standardized meal times the usda adopted the guidelines was anybody ever held accountable no most people still operate with this Most people still believe this. And while there's been some shift in eating patterns, the three meals is still the thing. And yet many people actually profited from it, like General Mills and Kellogg.

And now the packaged food market is a three hundred and seventy seven billion dollar a year industry. Why? Number two. So, I mean, you know, if we were doing this live, I'd do a show of hands. How many of you have heard or believe that breakfast is the most important meal of the day? I know I grew up thinking that. In fact, part of my passion for this too is then you get pissed at yourself going through this knowing that you bought it or were subjected to it. Like my parents didn't know any better. I would eat sugar cereal every day. think about what they trained us to do. I mean, You should eat fruity pebbles. You should eat Fruit Loops. You should eat these breakfast cereals,

which are now genetically modified grains plus sugar, and that that's the most important meal of the day, and that you have to eat three meals of the day. Expand it out further. What has the government done? The government through schools has gotten more and more into this as well. Now we need to have a Head Start program. Now we need to have kids in school earlier, before they're seven, when they can be directly programmed with no conscious filtering, And then we need to actually control their food. We use government money to push this unhealthy food while we're also getting them in a state where they can be conditioned and programmed. It's that infuriating. It is all gaslighting.

There is no basis for the idea that breakfast is the most important meal of the day or that it's even an important meal of the day. So then ask yourself, well, where did this come from? Where was the, this is why I get upset when I hear, you know, RFK is going to bring back gold standard science to public health. There is no gold standard science. There is no golden age. It's been bullshit the whole time. So who is responsible for breakfast? The most important meal. Well, it was the cereal companies. It was Kellogg's. It was General Mills. And again, the USDA has been a captured entity forever. I mean, from the beginning. I mean, again, there wasn't this like the point where it was ever

serving the function people have been propagandized to believe. Has anybody ever been held accountable for this? No. Again, it's not even acknowledged. If I were to ask you to raise your hand, do you think breakfast is the most important meal of the day? Or have you heard that this is still the narrative Because it is being pushed. that's being pushed? So nobody's been held accountable. Kellogg's did fifteen point three billion in revenue in Global cereal market is twenty twenty three. thirty seven point four billion dollars, all driven by this myth. So first we got you with three squares a day, and now the most important one is breakfast. And here we are. That's how this got to be that way.

The next one, and I had to deal with this as well. This has negatively impacted me. And I talked about this yesterday. Low fat diets are healthy. That was the big push. Fat is bad. And it's this skinny lie that made us fat. And I used the story yesterday when I was overweight as a kid because, you know, I was eating three square meals a day and I was eating, you know, breakfast cereal is my is the most important meal of the day. Well, you do that. Guess what? You're going to you're going to you're going to be overweight. So then we go to a nutritionist. nutritionist and the My parents take me to a nutritionist says you have to have a low fat diet. And here, go get these snack well cookies

that literally pointed me to the cookie section. So I already got fat because I'm eating the cereal that And the solution to this is they pushed on me. that I can't eat fat. I need to go eat cookies. I'm not even making this up. This was a registered nutritionist. you know, who, who work with a doctor. I mean, and this isn't a unique case. This is the standard. This is how all this works. These nutritionists actually think they're helping people. They don't know anything about nutrition doctors, doctors, as I had mentioned, I think on the first day, a doctor only goes to twenty two hours of nutrition studies, their entire medical school career. So these people, this is why when I said,

you know, if they say, go ask your doctor about fasting, your doctor's never heard about fasting. Fasting isn't even in a curriculum. So you go to your doctor, your doctor's like, I don't know, sounds risky to me. They have no information about this. But what they've been doing is peddling things like, you know, low fat diet, for which, again, there's no scientific basis. And in fact, well, there is some manipulation and propaganda around it. There's this guy, Ansel Keyes. Ancel Keys was involved with the American Heart Association. There's a great video. I should put a link to it on here. I think Cato Institute actually has a video on YouTube. There are some resources on

this talking about this guy, Ancel Keys. He basically manipulated the data. around the link between fat and heart disease. And this is the entire basis of the low fat narrative, the entire basis of eggs are bad, all because of one guy associated with the American Heart Association who intentionally manipulated the data. Was he held accountable? No, he was put on the front cover of Time magazine. So while the they've made adjustments kind of like actually, I can't even say they've made it just don't follow any public health guidelines. The next diet called the Lancet diet suggests that you shouldn't eat red meat, it actually has added sugar in as something that you

should have daily, which there is no big sugar is basically a poison. And so so no one ever gets punished for this. And miraculously, when they come up with new health guidelines, they're actually worse. But the new health guidelines With the Lancet diet, here's the key with these guidelines. They don't even intend or state that they're prioritizing human health. It's part of the agenda, uh, so when they're looking at developing nutritional policies, they're looking at the impact on the globe. the impact on the environment. So they're actually recommending insect protein. They're recommending a reduction to almost zero of red meat. And they're actually putting in added sugar and they,

and they state that they're trying, this is like a holistic approach. agenda twenty thirty thing. They're not even stating that they're trying to optimize your health. So if you thought, which I'm sure a lot of people did in the nineties, people that saw the food pyramid in a health textbook and saw all of this stuff, you probably thought that it was based on gold standard science and that the intent of the nutritional guidelines was to improve your health. It was never the intent. That has never been the motivation, which is why when I say boycott public health, literally boycott public health, they don't even have the intention of improving your health. The probability of you

finding good information there is almost zero. So, yeah, the low fat market just absolutely ballooned. And so it's ninety one billion dollars by twenty twenty three. The American Heart Association got three hundred thousand dollars a year. for adding a healthy choice tick. This is the other thing. You can't trust any of the things that you see. And you definitely can't trust government food labeling either. They'll come up with a different way to say genetically modified. It's now bio something. They just changed the language because the language is being written by the... You know, Conagra and Archer Daniels Midland. So the people that are actually the government shouldn't be involved in

food labeling at all. We have a whole debate right now where you have like this whole RFK regime is, well, we need informed consent and informed consent comes from getting good information through government. There's no reason to think we're going to get good information through government. We need a consumer choice. I mean, we need a free market solution for this. But it turns out you have impediments for even trying to provide this kind of information as a private entity because then it's not following USDA guidelines. So they actually prohibit and prevent and make it difficult for free market solutions for this while absolutely putting forward propaganda and labeling that is unuseful.

The last one that I have for today is that carbs are the base of a healthy diet I'm not even kidding this food pyramid has probably killed more people than the holocaust I actually looked at this up today you know with ai I mean the number of people that have died in the united states from obesity type ii diabetes which and I have all these graphs because my company which was an incentive based program to help employers help their employees lose weight and save money at the same time. I had these CDC maps that showed the growth of obesity. You may have seen those horrifying animated maps. And we went from basically nineteen eighty five where no one was morbidly obese

and a very small percentage were overweight to now like over eighty percent of Americans are overweight or obese and now actually the obese category may have even be higher than the overweight category well I mean this started with the introduction of this of this food pyramid which absolutely destroys your insulin levels by putting six to eleven servings of carbs at the base you know if you eat that diet you're always going to be hungry I mean, this is this is, you know, fats. Yes, fats have more calories than carbs. But if you eat fat, you will actually feel satisfied. All this is doing with this at the base is spiking your insulin levels. So you're always going to be hungry.

You're always going to want to eat more and you are not going to obtain nutrients. So this is literally killed based on, you know, whatever, doing a little bit of analysis, like twelve million people have probably died from unnecessary diseases caused by poor nutritional guidance pushed by It wasn't just suggested, it was pushed. I remember this stuff being in public school health textbooks. So who is responsible? It was the USDA influenced by the corn industry, the grain industry, and by actually the same people, Kellogg's and General Mills. Has anybody been held accountable? No, absolutely not a single person was fired. This is why I mean, I don't believe in public health. And again,

I'm going back to this isn't a situation where we had gold standard science that made a mistake or where there's new gold standard science that replaced the old gold standard science because we learned more. That has nothing to do. with any of this. We have bad things that were put in there through the capture of regulatory agencies, which by the way, they will always be captured. RFK is not going to fix this. There is no scenario in which you don't end up with having regulatory capture. This is why you move all of this out of the government sector and let the market solve all of these problems. You're not going to have You know, like it's like this idea like you're going to have these

dragnet style like people at the FDA and the USDA who are passionate about government food labeling. It's just it's never happened before. It's never going to happen again. And we're in twenty twenty five. We have decentralization. We have AI. We have different technologies. It's absurd to even have the USDA. or the fda but no one was held accountable and then they came up with my plate which is equally absurd from the original food pyramid and as I said before this lancet food pyramid is worse than the food pyramid because it has low to no meat, sugar, and insect protein. So don't trust this. But hopefully, as you're seeing this, I hope you're getting as angry about this as I am

because I've got five more to go through tomorrow. I guess I have one more for today. And this is only the tip of the iceberg. And this is just nutrition. Nutrition is not some outlier where it's just like, oh, well, this only happens within this field. The last one I have for today is red meat causes heart disease. So this has been pushed heavily. for a long time. And now it gets pushed, even though the evidence shows that that's not the case. The actual problem was processed foods, not red meat itself. They haven't switched this, because they want to keep this narrative, because the new narrative with the UN's Agenda is that red meat is bad for environmental purposes.

So they just don't want us eating red meat. It's never had anything to do with health. The first spin on this was that it caused heart disease. And now they're not even going to state that it's about health issues. They're going to say it's about the environment. They're going to say it's about methane. They're going to say it's about cow farts. So who funded this? Well, the sugar industry funded this. This is also an extension, this argument of the American Heart Association So the same guy that I and Ancel Keys. mentioned before that pushed the low fat diet. Well, that this is where this got caught up in that because red meat is high in fat and, and, and cholesterol. And so it's, it's,

in the same category as eggs, and it's a cause of heart attack. There's no evidence for this. It's a fascinating story. I may even play the parts of an interview in future lectures about kind of the history with this Ancel Keys guy. But this stuff goes back decades. This isn't like, oh, you know, so many people are like, oh, well, gee, this just got bad with COVID and Fauci recently. This did not just get bad. as you and again a lot of research that I did was in this happens a lot of the a fasted state doing a day fast you know the last time I now always take the approach of okay I'm not going to look at just what this recent example of where we may have cronyism or a captured entity I then

go back and say what is the history of the fda how what is the history of public health where do these organizations start what who were the original people what was their founding mission And every time I go back and do this, you know, public health and the World Health Organization and this was very much driven by eugenics. everything like this, It was very much driven by population control from the get go. um you you actually had uh aldous huxley's brother was the first head of unesco uh the science arm of of the un he was a hardcore eugenicist uh hardcore for population control this was this was the beginning of the organization and so the way I like to summarize it

is this once you learn that these organizations that people they manage to propagandize like the fbi the fbi it's like the you know the men in you know gray or men in black or whatever it is that that are standing up for our rights. These G-men, and they've had TV shows. I guess they have TV shows on it now. I don't have TV, but I saw that there's a whole franchise of shows called FBI. And they had them decades ago, even when TV was black and white, glorifying the FBI. When you actually study the FBI, you find out that J. Edgar Hoover, who headed it, was running a blackmail organization, and he himself was being blackmailed by the mafia. That was the beginning of the FBI.

Go back and study the history of the CIA. Study the history of these organizations. So they started out with bad intent and then they've had no accountability and no feedback loop. So there's no way these organizations have gotten better. There is no history of an organization that started out with malicious intent with no feedback becoming a useful, fruitful, and productive organization. And so this is true in all of these areas, but it's really true in this health area. So again, that's my rant today. Those are just five, but I'll do more. And if I keep doing this for days and days and weeks or however long this fast ends up going, then I'm going to hit a bunch of other areas too

that are public health and then even outside of public health. Because what I want to do is I want to get people to start thinking about how the world works because if what you thought about three meals a day and breakfast being the most important and low fat if all of that was fake and pushed by government and pushed by public health and pushed by propaganda then you're going to find that you know everything else is and then that really starts opening up your mind and realizing okay I truly need to get out of the system and take control of my own life and not rely on this at all. Like, don't give up your agency. Don't assume because a doctor said it that it's right.

In fact, assume that if a doctor said it, that it is just propaganda that came from Big Pharma and from an accreditation program that doesn't have optimizing human health as a priority, because that is true. so your doctor might not know that your doctor either went through it and actually thinks that you know well this doctor behind me went through this for a long time so it must and this has been going on be good uh otherwise somebody would have figured it out by now right a lot of the world operates that most of the world operates that way and so once you learn to question everything like that it it is truly part of taking control of your own life your own thoughts your own actions

and your own emotions so again the calls to action here sign the open letter freerogernow.org every signature helps we want to get momentum with this plan to attend his hearing on may the twelfth in la I will be there I'm going to be flying back from amsterdam and I you know I hope I don't have to go because I hope that he's out by then but I will gladly be there if the hearing exists and it would be great to have as many people show their support as possible I encourage you to join the fast on Monday. I'm gonna do the podcast again every night, I'm gonna announce my but on Monday, intentions for how long this fast is gonna be and how we might level it up. very successful.

I think it's actually been We don't have a lot of people watching tonight, but last night we had eight or nine thousand simultaneous listeners. I've been talking to a lot of other people, a lot of groups, a lot of individuals that wanna help out, that wanna help promote it. I think that this actually has the ability to get substantial legs. And I actually think the content that's gonna come out of this is gonna be very, very useful and very very helpful not only for roger but in general for the idea of empowering people to take control of their own lives which is intertwined with roger's philosophy as well so to me this is uh I'm I'm glad to be able to do this like as much as I

wish I didn't the circumstances were not like this I actually think we can make a lot of good come out of this Please share this podcast and other content. And actually, when I do these live streams, if you could share at the time and like it and comment when they go live, it would really help because I am completely shadow banned at this point. I mean, I'm looking right now and it's just, you know, I have a very small amount. I have eleven likes on this. You know, we have eight hundred and six views. But the reason I play the music at the beginning for five to ten minutes is because X is actually the only platform where I have any traction. I'll talk about how you can help me with some other

social media channels tomorrow or the next day. But X is where I get all of the views. The problem is, unlike with Rumble or YouTube, where I can actually provide a link in advance and people can know where to go, You only get to see the link when I push the button and go live. So what ends up happening is I play the music for five or ten minutes and then what I'm doing is I'm copying the link. I'm tagging a bunch of people. They're all of these limits and restrictions as to how many people you can tag in one post. So I'm DMing people and then I'm going over to Signal and then I'm going over to Telegram and I'm sharing the link live. That's how we get most of the people here.

So I could use a lot of help if people would be willing to actually to share it when it goes live and to share it in groups because otherwise, if I just put out a post, like I'll put out a post tomorrow morning saying, hey, will you go take a look at this? And I've got forty five thousand followers or whatever, and maybe five hundred people will see the post. So it's really hard to get the word out. And I don't think it's because the content's bad or the topic isn't interesting. It's because just simply how how the social media platform works and how how shadow and this is there. Again, initial fasting. resources. Dr. Berg is great. Again, I have no financial interest.

Nobody's paying me for this, but I've learned a lot from Dr. Berg. He has hundreds, if not thousands of hours of lectures and resources and everything else. And I started out with intermittent fasting, but he does go into some prolonged fasting, but not as much as Dr. Alan Goldhamer, who actually runs a water fast clinic that does forty hour medically supervised water fast. And he's been doing this for years. So he has all kinds of information on this and also a lot of data about, you know, people who have have been cured and a whole wide range of issues. I reached out to Mike Adams today, It's funny. Health Ranger, who's launching this AI called Enoch. can you run a test for me?

And I said, hey, Find out the link between fasting and curing various diseases because what's unique is and he told me this he spent now almost two million dollars building this ai and what's unique about his ai is he's trained it on data sets that you're not going to find with x and certainly not chat gpt or claude And so if you know Health Ranger, I mean, he's been putting out content and he's been banned all over the place, but he's been putting out content on alternative health related content and other issues. I happen to know he trained his AI on my book on the final countdown. So he has a really interesting set of data.

So I asked him to run a thing. So so what does your ai say about prolonged fasting and halting reversing or improving various conditions and you know he shot back high blood pressure all one hundred improved colitis seventy and forty one cases seven out of eighty eight cases sinusitis sixty four out of sixty seven cases uh ulcers twenty out of twenty three cases um bronchitis, thirty nine out of forty two cataracts, three out of four cases, cancer, all five cases were improved. Again, this isn't necessarily a huge data. He has a data set that that you will not find through the other other eyes. And so it's it's there's a lot of really cool things. I'm more excited about his

eye than almost anything health care information related wise. And then Dave Asprey wrote a book called Fast This Way, which I actually didn't get around to reading until after I'd already done a couple hundred days worth of fasting. But it does provide good information about different types of fasting, prolonged, intermittent, different strategies and everything else. These are all good starting resources. So with that, I'm happy to open this up. Oh, I see we've got IM for IM. Hey, how are you feeling? How are you? How are you doing? I'm feeling better now that we're through the podcast. It was rough starting the podcast, but I feel great now. I actually feel very energized now.

Your brain's firing? Do you feel a fog lift? The fog is lifting. This is the peak day for autophagy. So this is where there's the most, you know, bad stuff kind of getting rinsed out. So I'm just making sure to properly hydrate. And so now like the worst part is over. So now whatever happens from here on out is just upside. It's funny you mentioned Dr. Berg because look what I'm drinking. I don't know if you can see this. Oh, yeah. There you go. Is that the raspberry? The raspberry Dr. Berg. Yeah. Yep. There you go. I like his products. I like his products a lot. I'm not endorsing him or him personally or anything. It's a personal preference, but that's what I trust for electrolytes.

Same. He sells a lot of different products. I don't trust him. I trust him for two things, vitamin D and electrolytes. I trust him for those two, but there's one more. It's the natural greens or whatever, the powdered green. It's in the same container, basically. I haven't tried those. Are those good? Is that good? Yeah, it is. It is really good. He talks about... Boy, it's a while since I've seen it. It's been a few years since I saw his video on it. Essentially, he was looking for a specific source for microgreen, powdered microgreens that are not heated when they're dehydrated and thus losing their nutrients.

And then secondly, he wanted the soil to have a certain alkaline or something. And he found it in this like salt beds in Utah, where they actually grew microgreens. And then he worked with them to be able to turn it into a powder form, but not destroy it from high pasteurization or, you know, heat, not pasteurization, but heat. And it's been a while since I've had it. I used to drink it every day, especially when I was on keto and working out and when I was in karate and, you know, mixed martial arts. So it's been a few years since I've had it.

Dr. I may give it a try. One of the things that Dr. Berg pushes really heavily is that you need to eat a lot of cruciferous vegetables. He got me on that kick. I will eat a half a pound to a pound of spinach or kale every day to get nutrients. Again, it's when I'm focused and when I'm actually not traveling all the time and not in a different thing. you know, it, it, it worked. So yeah, he has good stuff. The interesting thing about Dr. Berg, Dr. Goldhammer, and even Dr. Joe Dispenza, they're not medical doctors. They're all chiropractors. Yes. Yes. Ironically. Right. It is how that worked. Yeah, it is. It's probably some kind of

personality type or where their brain is wired to be able to think differently and a little bit outside the box from traditional medicine. Having said that, my wife and I, and especially myself, and it's been a while, I would go to the local farmer's market and buy microgreens where I'm at. There's a vendor that has microgreens. I swear by those for as far as nutritional value. You keep freezing up, Aaron, but it's all good. When you freeze, you're looking good. Oh, well, so no, I'm moving the screen, right? It shouldn't be a connection thing. I was getting rid of the

presentation and making it so it's just you and I talking. Okay, okay. No, no, seriously, I think you are locking up. We're hearing you fine, but your video locks up every once in a while. Um, I, I like you got your free Roger, your tablet there on the back screen with free Roger. Um, I, I unfortunately have missed a good portion of your, your conversation time. I was listening a little bit on X and, And I, I know it's, and that kind of thing. it's definitely late for you, but you might be a night person. I, I, uh, I have to be up at like four in the morning again. So, um, I'm going to be cutting out early tonight, but I can't emphasize this enough.

What you're doing and sending out the message out and heightening the awareness of Roger Ver's case, what he's facing, and how that could even set a precedence for all of us. I think we have to remember that, that part of this case has to do with client privileges, confidentiality. And a part of this case is obviously how far the IRS can go and sentencing and enforcing laws. So we have to keep that in mind that you never know, that knock might be on our door someday. And we certainly want to stop this from becoming a

court precedence. And just another reason, if you're a small blocker and you don't like Roger, look at it from a legal perspective, if nothing else. Yeah, I mean, again, the people that would be most negatively impacted by this would be Bitcoin maxis because they're going after this Bitcoin, right? This isn't the timeframes involved in everything else. This is primarily about Bitcoin. So what it means by this case is, one, they lied to the grand jury to begin with. So there's that as the starting point. So these are things that apply. Outside of crypto, this is a DOJ function. So the DOJ lied to a grand jury. been an indictment to begin So there never should have with because it was based

on the complete omission of information. Then they had the IRS, armed IRS agents violate his attorney-client privilege by breaking into the office. So again, you don't have to be in crypto. This is a fundamental violation of your rights to have a privileged communication with your attorney. what it means is based on what Also, they're claiming, they're trying to claim fraud. But what the evidence shows that they didn't show the grand jury is that Roger was complying with his counsel on these matters and in fact, taking a more conservative approach. So it means now you also can't rely on counsel. And so this isn't even a crypto issue.

This is a fundamental constitutional rights issue and something that every individual or business should be concerned about. So whether you like Roger or not, the very few people that and by the way, don't like Roger are the people that will also be the most negatively impacted by this. Every person on the planet should be on board with supporting Roger. Right. They'll negatively impact it out of their ignorance. Yep. Yeah. Can you clarify something for me? When the IRS raided the office, was it his accountant's office, attorney's office, both, or his personal business office? Which office and where do you have any? I know for a fact that they

have they raided his attorney's office and they raided his business office, which actually led to and caused some people to quit over the kind of the emotional issues. distress of having uh armed irs agents come into an office why I mean again if you're not guilty but nevertheless I mean employees are don't know of people that believe that that I mean there are a lot the government actually has integrity still so that's which is unfortunate so some of these people there are people that assume you're guilty just because you get raided right and I mean and by the way think about this in the context now of all these people getting swatted um and you know it's just again this part of the

culture of I did mention this I was doing my rant about public health but I mean it's it's they have these tv shows um my ex-wife used to watch this show bones on tv and I'm kind of like like this is a show that's glorifying the fbi and now they actually have shows like called the fbi and they're by the way they all seem to be on this cbs network which which we know from the nineteen seventies in the church committee actually had plants directly from the cia so when you're seeing a television show called the fbi then it actually has literally people from the fbi writing the script it's propaganda uh or like or like that tv show dragnet from the whatever yeah from why the

fifties or sixties whenever it was and later the movie Now we're, now we're going to glorify, Yeah. you know, we're going to glorify the, the, the police. But, but when you realize that this was actually all, all propaganda, but people do buy it. Cause I mean, again, popular TV shows with this. And so they, they, they believe this. So I would assume as accountants got rated to everybody seemed to get, to get rated in this situation. And it is just, it's heartbreaking that how it's not, it's not just one thing too. I mean, down to the point where we're going well you're fighting extradition. to say, okay, So that means you're a fugitive. Like they never it's not Right.

like it's not like they step back and say, well, maybe we shouldn't have violated. You know what? Let's give them a pass. We already violated his constitutional rights twice. Let's give him a pass on this other thing. Now, that's not that's not in the cards. Like they just they're doubling down on unconstitutional and illegal behavior. It's all immoral. But but then there are other levels of hell that they've added on top of it. So I agree. Agreed. I don't know what time you started your podcast, but I was watching Sal and he had three clips from last night. he played the video of everyone's First, kind of the montage of Free Roger and

who Roger was to them and who Roger is today and what he's facing, which is an excellent video. So he played that and he played two more excerpts. Another one of his comments and talking about Roger Ver. And of course, he talked more about the case in between these videos. um that he showed on his podcast and then finally he ended up with uh zano and uh a section from from last night show on zano so uh and I saw that he had probably about six thousand people on x watching him when that was playing so yeah yeah no so we were we were actually uh

he was going to try to do it, we were going to try to do a crossover where I was we're going to have me. So I'm not sure how we were going to do it. But I was gonna, you know, simultaneously be on his show and have this show going. And we weren't able to get the logistics out. But it does. But we ended up talking till midnight last night. So we're gonna be doing a lot of crossover work. I have me on his show. So there's a lot of overlap now. And so I'm very excited about that. I thought. Yeah, Oh, go ahead. You thought last night what? I thought last night was terrific. Oh, yeah. And there are great clips from that. these dialogues are And by the way, probably the source of some

of the best information. Yes, absolutely. Yes. As a matter of fact, it's kind of funny because I signed out and was getting ready for bed and I couldn't turn it off. I was listening to it until you guys signed off for the night. Then I finally went to sleep. You know, I had to get up early. It was just it was a really good conversation. And and, you know, I admire Sal. And that's one thing I have not purchased any of his books yet. And I need to do that and read those and also show my support for his work. And it was kind of interesting how you were talking about how you probably crossed paths at Porkfest in, you know, in two thousand twelve or

thirteen or something like that. And that was his inspiration for, you know, his three D printing of guns. Yeah. And now we're going to do, now we're going to do three D printed guns at the, at the Zano Manera Topia tent. I, and now he's fired up about Porkfest. Oh yeah. So I think truly we're going to make Porkfest happen. Porkfest is going to be, uh, uh, truly wonderful and I really do think that that roger will be there I think that you know something all of the intent attention and efforts that everybody's putting into this and he you know he has his team and whatever he's doing he's got great people I think it's going to happen and then and then it's going to be as earth

shattering as it was in I mean again so many great things happened none of this crypto stuff would would be where it is today without those events without without free stater ian freeman having free talk live and then roger listening to it and then roger going to free state events and onboarding what became an early class of ogs none of this would be happening right so so what if we take the lessons of the hijacking the lessons of everything that's going on we now have we now have battle scars right we got a lot of battle scars but but so what learning experiences and then let's let's plow forward and that's that's what I think is going to happen so You know,

there's an OG from back in that day. Last name was Mayor and he had like the two hundred moving average. It was called the Mayor two hundred or something. I liked him. And but he was hard, hard, hardcore, you know, Maxie after the the the fork. But I still liked his comments and what he had to say about sound money. He was spot on. And then he just kind of fell off the map. Any ideas what happened to him? I think I just saw... Yeah, here we go. Trace Meyer and Roger Ver discussing what he and early Bitcoiners did for the space.

Roger Ver and other Bitcoiners took the risk. So he's saying good things about Roger as of a couple days ago. Oh, good. That's on X? I need to find it. It's on X. I'll post the link in the comments. But I haven't heard about him either in years. um well I don't know how active he is but at least he put put out some good comments about roger you know I really it's disheartening that some people should absolutely be saying good things right uh oh we got a new somebody else here deadheaded let's see how this goes all right hello oh he's muted oh he's dead you're muted there we go can you hear me okay yep yes Hey, guys. Great talk.

Hey, I agree. Great talk last night. I was going to bed and couldn't put it down. Couldn't go to sleep until you guys finished. So it really got interesting. And Aaron, we know each other from back in the OG Ravencoin days. Okay. So I'm an asset head. I love assets. Build use cases all the time. Are you in Florida? Yeah. say it again you in florida yeah yeah okay I know who you are I just yeah okay yeah good good good to hear from you yeah and george from philly uh yeah I haven't talked to george in a while but I understand you guys are really good friends we've been george has been my friend for thirty years yeah he's a he's a great I try to get um I don't know did you is

he still working with those houses He's not. Right now, he's actually in California temporarily. He's not living out there. Usually, he would actually hop on here, but he's in California right now. He'll be a regular appearing on this, I suspect, over the next few weeks. He'll also be at Porkfest. I have to encourage everybody By the way, to go to Porkfest. Oh, I'd love to go. Anybody, do whatever you can. We're going to make this one a really big deal. Um, okay. Let's talk about a couple of things. Cause one thing I wanted to since, um, talk about you is I got questions about Xano that you may be able to answer. Okay. Um, yeah, I, I love the, I love that. I own Xano.

I bought Xano a while ago, luckily a little bit when it was down into twos and threes. Um, But with their asset layer, like with Ravencoin, I can attach an IPFS file. It's easy to make an asset and attach it to something. If I make an asset on Xano, how do I know what it is other than the name? All the metadata is mutable. I mean, it's not immutable. It can be changed. and I've actually talked to Well, you could, them about that. We just haven't pushed it because it's a priority. There's a notes field. When you use the wallet to create an asset, there's a notes field. And I actually talked to them about it because I've created an NFT in Zeno with a link to an IPFS hash.

It's just that the wallet doesn't have a browser built into it, but there's nothing preventing you from putting an IPFS hash into Zeno. the notes field in Zeno and there's nothing preventing them other than market demand from having that display or having another wallet owner. Right. But, but isn't, but the notes fields can be changed on an asset. Apparently when I asked in discord, it was months ago. Okay. I I'll have to, I'll have to check off to check on that. Yeah. Because that was my one thing, you know, if obviously if you want, if you make one, not like in Raven coin, non-reissuable, Excuse me. Then, you know, then the IPFS is locked in. But could you solve that problem by, say,

wrapping a Ravencoin asset? That is one of the things that I've been interested in for quite some time. I actually I brought it up to them and that's and I've even posted about this in some of the marketing groups, which is they're building this so that you're going to be able to bridge Ethereum. And they're doing a lot of things that you're going to be able to actually leverage some of the native their approaches. Let's leverage the native capabilities of other blockchains and then just use Zeno as the wrapper to make it private. And their approach is that if we do that, then we're going to be able to work with multiple blockchains and we're going to be able to ultimately be

the part that makes other great technologies with other different attributes private. So, yeah, I mean, that's the only thing in my mind. Well, a lot of things Ravencoin is. But the original idea of Ravencoin was missing was the privacy. You know that privacy is privacy is fundamentally missing and it wasn't as much of a concern for me Four years it actually really only became a concern for me six to nine months ago And now I realize like yeah now it's actually an Achilles heel if you don't have privacy then it's actually highly problematic Well, I actually in some ways I kind of disagree in some sort of situations like I I kind of put together You remember mango farms, right? Yep, Doug Pepe

His RIP-Eleven, Ravencoin Improvement Proposal-Eleven, is a fabulous piece of little code. But basically, you're taking a hash of an address and putting it into the unique address name and the unique name of the asset. So if that unique asset moves out of that address, it becomes invalid. Yep. So you can do a lot of things, a lot of things with that. Well, based on that, I built a marketplace. But one of the things is, is, you know, if let's say you're in any country and you're you're selling things digitally over the marketplace. One of the great features is you press a button and all your accounting is done. And you can't do that on a privacy chain if you're transferring assets for

money and things like that. But if you use something like Xano for simply for the payment function and use the, you know, the rest of the, I hate to say Ravencoin, there are other blockchains out there. Evermore is one. There's a few more that I'm looking at Optio right now that can do the things that Ravencoin can do. And I think better. So I don't want to, I'm not shrilling Ravencoin. I'm just using that as the examples for history. But so privacy is great, I believe, in some places, but in some places you need to be able to track stuff. Well, I mean,

you can track your own stuff. It's just a question of whether somebody else can track it looking at the blockchain. Right, but if I'm selling it... if I'm selling you a music, if I'm selling a music, let's use the music NFT and I'm taking ninety percent of it, eight percent go into my agent and two percent of my marketing company. And when you buy that that music for me and I get that, that money doesn't go directly. I mean, my portion of the money goes directly to me using the the dividend function. But let's say I write a music, I write a song and I issue one hundred ownership tokens and I own ninety and Somebody else owns eight and my marketer owns two. So when the payments come in,

the payments are automatically done to the other people. Well, I'm going to need to track that for tax purposes and things like that in my side of the business. Yeah. So some things need I'm just saying some things need to be transparent. The other thing is because you're talking about doing, you know, goldbacks. into Xano or Goldbacks and Xano, is that correct? Well, actually Gold, not Goldbacks. It's a Goldback privacy token. Okay. I was thinking about an issue. I love the Goldbacks and we need a Goldback token, but obviously going from paper Goldbacks to a digital token and back and forth is an issue. But with...

A non-privacy chain, you can track the individual assets. In fact, I don't know if you saw it, somebody, a developer that's been around for a while, he's working on a nice little explorer that can download right from IPFS, run locally, and you can trace assets, trace coins. So there are two functions and there are two components of rolling out the gold coin. Zeno has something called an auditable wallet. And so you can use the auditable wallet for managing the actual supply of the gold and the interaction of that with the vaults. but then still have the privacy tokens issued privately so there's a way to do it because you can do both but I will say from my perspective where and if

all you realize like we you've been following me at need money outside of government I don't give a fuck about working with the sec or complying with any of this like we are facing absolute complete total digital tyranny so all of this and I think a lot of where ravencoin got caught up is oh we're gonna do you know, security tokens working with the SEC, which in retrospect was a pipe dream because nobody in traditional finance wants to give up their control. stopping short selling. They're not interested in And they were clearly able to manipulate the political process to make sure that that Raven coin box didn't happen and that other things did. So we are in a situation right now where,

to me, privacy is actually critical from an existential perspective because that's how bad the threat is. And, you know, unfortunately, people are now complacent thinking, oh, well, Trump is anti-CBDC. But these stable coins are absolutely surveillance and have all of the negative attributes of CBDCs. It's just that it's being issued by Jamie Dimon instead of Jerome Powell, which is a difference without a distinction. A hundred percent. I completely, one hundred percent agree. And to the point where I wrote two bills for Florida and I think they should be for every state. And I think one's a precious metals bullion depository. So that we can have private bullion depositories within our state.

And I think all fifty states need those. And then based on that, that they can issue digital tokens based on those precious metals. And they're simple bills. I crafted one, I think was a Texas bill. I just took it and recrafted it. And one was a Tennessee bill. And I added in some blockchain stuff for that. And I think they would work for everybody. I guess my so I've worked with the gold back company and I've actually talked to The big issue that I have all of these guys. with all of this is, I mean, we know they've confiscated gold in the United States. So anytime you're doing a centralized thing like that, like why would I trust a state depository? There's actually a history

of of state backed stuff as well. What we actually need is money separated from state. Private depository. And it's not just the federal government. So there's a this is why, from my perspective, the hardest part about launching this gold token is creating a decentralized network of vaults that are in different countries and actually spreading some of that geopolitical risk. And the US is not on the list. It's not on the short list. we really are not competitive in I mean, most things. And so, you know, fiat currency doesn't work, but even gold backed state money doesn't work. And I'm always worried about things that are centralized. How hard would it be when push comes to shove for the

feds to come in and raid a state depository realistically? They'll use internet, they'll use interstate commerce, they'll use a whole list of things. And so we really don't have we have to we have to admit to ourselves that we really do not have a rule of law. And the Constitution is dead. Most people don't want to admit that people still are kind of in a fantasy land on I I'm one hundred percent with you on that there's we we have no rule of law at all at any at any level uh I I can say that definitively battling my uh school board here in the past yeah no one ever beats a school board that's that's rare oh I beat him I beat him bad and I I I I ran into a guy

out here called Dave Jose. Dave cares for you on YouTube. And Dave got his children taken and went to the books and started learning. And he came, he figured out that there's a system that our forefathers gave us called notices and affidavits, constitutional notices and affidavits. And it's a way for you to address your grievances with your legislative and elected officials bypassing the courts and forcing them into private arbitration of your choice at their expense. And I got my school board to lift the mask mandates. They put them in. First, you could opt out. Parents could opt out. And then they put them in where you couldn't opt out. And I got them to lift that

weeks before they said they were going to do that by serving them. with these notices and affidavits. And then a couple months later, two days after I got certified mail, I had done it at the school board, but I didn't certified mail one. I got them to drop the lawsuit against Governor DeSantis that the school board had spent forty thousand dollars of our money on. To try and constitutionally take away our or take away our constitutional rights. So there are ways to address these things. And these have been used. They were used all throughout COVID for myriad of different effects. And they can be effective. But you're right for the most part.

We're, we're, we're lawless or should I say where the sovereign, I'd say sovereign citizens are the police. They're the ones that, and the, and the sheriffs and the politicians, because they're the ones that are above any law. Yep. Yep, indeed. I see I see we have Steve Thurmond here as well. It's great. Great. Thank you for thank you for joining. It's been a long time. I've been traveling for so long. It's like a you know, it's been a blur the last four months, really. And so it's great to see Great to see Steve on here as well. And obviously, now that I'm doing these podcasts daily for a while, this will be a good opportunity to get a whole bunch of people into the conversation.

But I always enjoy Steve's perspective. And he's a hardcore longtime advocate of peer-to-peer digital cash. uh and bitcoin cash and has worked on some really innovative things I remember he was uh going to slovenia for the bch bliss conference and and paying his way paying for all of it and going kind of documenting the whole excursion using cryptocurrency and using bch so uh that's that's very odd we need more of that and steve I hope you can I hope you can attend pork fest you're on mute by the way I I don't know if that's hold on let me see if that's Let me make sure that's not me that's muted you. No, by the way, Ted, I have to agree with your

comments and thank you. We got a comment here from Logos Rising. Why would you want to pay taxes on anything? The income tax doesn't even apply to most Americans. Check out Dave Champion and the Tax Honesty Movement. Dave's champion in the tax odyssey movement. We've got Medora. We've got a new mystery guest here, too. I will boot people if it's inappropriate, of course, but I'm willing to give everybody a shot just because why not? Trust but verify. Hello, Medora. Or Medora, sorry.

You're muted, so Steve and... medora you're muted if uh uh I don't know if you intended to be in this I I know I sent steve a link um any event uh happy hi I I didn't know what I was joining I just clicked the link so I can leave if you want I was watching on youtube um but I'm I was the one who posted about dave champion Oh, OK. Oh, great. OK. Well, welcome. Well, yeah. We actually I I really enjoy the discussion part of these podcasts the most and happy to have new people join and would love to hear more about this. I was actually I spoke at a conference in Miami and there was somebody that it might have been him speaking about this. Yeah. So he he he actually has a

really great book that you can buy called Income Tax Shattering the Myths. And he he's deeply, deeply researched all of the tax regulations and codes and very clearly lays out why they don't apply to most Americans. And we've just been deceived into believing they do. um so I highly recommend people check it out his website is drreality.com like just drreality.com and he has a rumble he has two rumble channels also just search dave champion um okay yeah all right I'm yeah I'm sure I wrote that down thank you you're welcome

I'll mute myself now. Thanks for the info. Okay. You're welcome. Hey, Aaron. I wanted to mention to you on your fast here. Yeah, it turned out I was Making the comments about blood. That's my daughter's account on YouTube. Or it's my account, but my daughter uses it. It's her name on YouTube. But Jack Cruz and a couple other guys, the blue light in our phones, our screens, our TVs is burning out our dopamine receptors in our eyes. It's addicting us completely.

It's disrupting our sleep. It completely interrupts our metabolism. In fact, Jack, just to prove it, because he was, you know, he's a neurosurgeon and he was two hundred and seventy pounds. And just, you know, just like another doctor I was listening to today, a heart surgeon who was way overweight. And he did all these things to lose weight and couldn't lose weight and then found out, you know, started getting into the light stuff and literally lost all his weight by changing his circadian rhythm. Yep. Without changing his, his dye. Yeah. I've watched that. And I usually, now that I'm doing these every night, I usually have blue, blacker glasses and I, I do red light. I,

I'm not entirely sold yet on methylene blue. I actually have some, uh, I've tried it out. In fact, I, I, I did the combination of taking methylene blue and then actually using the red light. Uh, I did not, I didn't notice anything. And then I've researched it a little bit. I'm still, I'm, I'm still waiting to see on methylene blue, but nevertheless, um, yeah, no, Cruz is definitely a very, very interesting guy. And I, I follow him and I've watched his, uh, whatever that four-hour interview he had with Danny Jones. And I'm always interested to see. He's a Bitcoin maxi. He could do some help on that. But otherwise, I think he's a pretty solid guy. Yeah, he is definitely a Bitcoin maxi.

He needs to be re-educated on that part, which I believe he will. He's a truth seeker. There's no doubt about that. Now, I've been on methylene blue now for a couple of weeks, my wife also. And she's a sensitive one, and she has seen some great benefits from it. My energy levels are definitely up. So I'm definitely positive about that. And I'm about to start hydrogen water after reading all the studies. Yeah. Because that just seems fantastic. Have you had any experience with hydrogen water? I think we might have hydrogen water. You know, We were just at an event in New York and my wife bought two bottles. We have two bottles. She said, make sure the kids don't get into this.

It was like fifteen dollars each. That might be hydrogen water. No, no, no, no. Hydrogen will gas off quickly. OK, so you can do it two ways. They make these tablets that you can infuse it with or you can you can do you can micro bubble it into there. I'm making one out in the garage, but I'm also getting a hydrogen bottle but the extra hydrogen is anti-inflammatory antioxidants it's improves your memory improves it it's I the study I've got there's there is one very to see more studies but very good double blind placebo study they did with a bunch of elderly people average age of seventy for six months

drinking hydrogen water daily and they proclaimed that they actually re-grew telomeres hmm interesting Now, Yeah. there's only one thing I've ever seen that regrows telomeres substantially and gets rid of zombie cells, and that's your hyperbaric oxygen chamber. I've done that I've done that I've uh I was I had this great biohacking gym well you're in florida there's a there's a gym called biohackers in weston and I think they have another one now they just opened west palm and the woman who who runs it is a phd who is actually working on stem cell research for a biotech company

And so it was like this, like I found it as this hole in the wall, but I was doing cryo, red light, hyperbaric chamber, this thing called Vespa, where you put cold compresses on your arms and your legs and you do the exercise bike. And so it like cuts, eliminates the lactic acid buildup. They had like, it was just, it was like, it was phenomenal. And the hyperbaric chamber is incredible as well. I miss it because I don't have access to that here. But I've tried to hack it by buying my own red light and, you know, some of this other stuff, but it's just not quite the same. Well, you know, they had those chambers. Yeah. They were on there for a while. They were like only like six grand.

I don't know what they are now. But did you did you read the protocols out of Israel that they did for the aging study? I mean, was it? Yeah, they were doing. Five days a week, ninety minutes with twenty with a break, five minute break every twenty minutes. So you didn't over oxygen oxygen. Oh, wow. They were doing a lot and they did it for not for three months. And that's where they got the actually the anti aging. Like they were talking like thirty six percent, twenty five percent telomere growth and thirty two percent reduction in in non replicating cells. Oh, wow. Yeah, it was. It's phenomenal. You can look it up. It's very staggering. And then this other study

with the hydrogen water, you know, you see studies where they've slowed it down or, you know, the telomere reduction or, you know, maybe a half a percent. But the hydrogen water study that I was reading was, I forget the number, but it was like ten or twelve percent. So it was a significant change in your DNA. Have you followed David Sinclair in his work at all? The name sounds familiar. I probably have. I have. I'm highly suspicious. I mean, it's a whole bunch of here's some like clinical. There's no long term. Actually, I disagree with the whole approach with studies. I think there's something

fundamentally wrong. It comes down to materialism versus kind of energy. But I bought his book and I've watched some of his stuff and I'm not convinced. Yeah. Yeah, I wasn't convinced when he was doing a lecture and he's drinking red wine. Yeah, or scotch. Yeah, I think he drinks scotch too. Oh, you're kidding me, really? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you know, he said that that's part of it. And so, you know. Well, then of course there's Brian Johnson, but I don't know if I'm trusting a guy that got vaxxed. No kidding. Is he the gentleman from England, from UK? Brian Johnson? Yes. don't think he's from the uk he might be there's another

one who is studying life extension um uh just on a different path than david sinclair and he's from the uk heavy british accent he's got a long beard oh aubrey de gray that's the one yeah I'm horrible with names Yeah, he's been around for a long time. He was really popular like, fifteen years ago, and I did see, I saw him on my feed, I just, I haven't followed him much lately. I feel like I listened to him a long time ago, and then haven't since. So I don't even remember what his focus area was. Just that he was focused on life extension as a concept, but I don't even remember what his kind of angle was, or theory. I do remember Richard Hart

had actually donated or something like ten million dollars towards his research. Oh, wow. And he was, of course, very grateful and was on a video with Richard providing a little bit more details on his research. And Richard had been studying him and Sinclair for quite some time. I want to say this was probably around five years ago, four years ago. Yeah, I'll have to take a look. I think I remember he did a TED Talk. I remember I'm remembering when I was listening to him. I hadn't even moved to New Hampshire yet. And actually, So that had to have been pre-two thousand and eight.

Before I drop off, Aaron, I want to let you know just if there's if you want to start thinking about maybe if daisy chaining your fast and having somebody take over after you. Um, I would like to, uh, throw my, my, uh, you know, volunteer myself for, you know, trying to do a seven day fast as well. Well, I, I'm thinking about, I'm thinking about doing four. Yeah, I know. So if, if you think, think about that and if we have other people that are interested in, uh, you know, maybe we would just have it one long fast with multiple

individuals that would coincide with yours or pick up when you leave, you know, when you stop, someone else picks up the chain. Well, I was thinking, together a site where people could, I was thinking of putting where we could have people indicate how many days they've fasted and have like a counter for total number of days. Oh, that'd be great. I mean, I haven't fully decided on this yet, but I'm definitely, I'm definitely leaning this way because, because actually it's, you know I I touch on all the fasting stuff every day but but I've spent so much time researching this that I I do think it's like a mind-blowing thing that that that again it's one of these things where of

course there aren't clinical studies because there's zero money in it and so when you do actually find the information and you find what's happened and then when you actually just think about it for a second oh well this is what happens with your body so our approach is we're going to give people chemo and hope they make it out and it kills all the bad stuff And but we're not thinking about what the body itself would do. And it's not part of and of course, nobody's testing it because medical schools don't even teach anything about it. No. So it's so it's one of those things where I think this is one of those, you know, it can crack the code of so many things. And as I'm in day three,

I just remember I have, you know, issues with sinuses sometimes like like all of it goes away. And so the question for me is going to be actually coming out of the fast, what process am I going to use to hack in a similar methodical way to come out of it? And I'll talk about this as we get later into this, but I can't remember whether it's seven days or ten days, but your taste buds completely reset, completely reset. So I remember the first time I did a long fast, maybe it was seven days. I think it was seven days. I used to drink a lot of Diet Coke. I used to drink a ton of Diet Coke. Don't drink any of it anymore. Completely cut it out. But I used to love Coke Zero, right?

And I remember when I got out of the seven day fast and I went to go drink some Diet Coke, it tasted like a mouthful of chemicals. It was absolutely disgusting. So I'm not even kidding. Your taste buds completely transform. So if you remain present and you're made conscious, you don't just jump right back into your old patterns and you listen to what your body is telling you that it wants. then you will actually find yourself if you're conscious when you're going to the store you'll find yourself picking food that you either didn't like or actually maybe you've never even had before you will just kind of like if you're kind of in tune with what's going on it's an amazing

aspect of this and so I've actually you know I've never done a fast with the benefit of ai So, so like Mike talking to Mike Adams and like, you know, he's like, can you just give me access Like he's about ready to, but I'm like, to the thing yet? so I'm sending him questions. He's giving me the answers back. And I'm like, but truly there's a whole wealth of like, one thing is, when you come out of it, you know, repopulate your gut bacteria properly. it's like my wife actually makes So for me, sauerkraut, which is great. It's phenomenal sauerkraut, but it's like, you know, you got to think about, so how you can really kickstart your way out of a process. Cause you've basically gone

through a fast and you've, you've fixed all the bad stuff, but that doesn't necessarily tell you what the bad stuff was that you did so that, you know, you might just end up in the same place. And so it's, uh, um, Anyway, I don't know how many people are going to listen to all of the podcasts. And I know a lot of people are like scared of fasting or don't even know what it is. But I think if I'm hoping that this content, I might even make an online course out of it. That's one of the other things that I'm thinking, because it's just it's it's powerful as an activism tool, but it's really powerful for resetting things. And this is it. Yeah, and then being able to talk about it

every night is almost like a diary format or recording the results or recording your thoughts, feelings as you're going through it as your body's adjusting. Yeah, and that's great. This is why it'd be great if more people... would do it. We don't all have to be in sync at the same place, but just for people to be able to share that information. Cause usually every time I've done a fast, Most people do fasting by themselves, I've done it by myself. but there's no reason that that needs to be the case. And so I think it could be like, I almost thought if you had a company or something, if you, you know, instead of doing a retreat where you go to retreat and everybody's like drinking

alcohol or eating too much or whatever the social thing is, if you had a retreat where you fasted for three days, I think you'd have some pretty interesting insights to be honored. Oh, we would. Like you said, you could certainly once the brain fog is lifted, you could have some amazing solutions to some problems that we're facing come out of that group. Or maybe they're ridiculous. Maybe part of it's like, all right, I'm in this state and this is what I think is going on. But maybe you end up finding out that, well, wait a minute, this is just batshit crazy. Who knows? Aaron, I wanted to ask you, you touched on it briefly. What happens to your gut biome during this forty days?

Well, it does a good job. It's like everything else, your body, well, in theory, your body conserves the stuff that it needs, and it gets rid of the bad stuff, which isn't to say that the it gets rid of all the bad gut bacteria and only keeps the good gut bacteria, but it does. It does get rid of a lot of the bad stuff. And I will say to be I will probably do a segment on poop because it's really weird because people often... So you think about this. If you're not eating for like two, three, four weeks, five weeks, do you even go to the bathroom at all? And it turns out you do and it's pretty foul because you are getting rid of stuff that has been trapped in there for a really long time.

Um, but it is important to try to like repopulate properly. And so I'm trying, I haven't hacked this yet. I'm trying to figure out what is the right combination of, you know, fermented foods, kimchi and, um, sauerkraut and things like that are great. And then you can supplement that with, uh, with, with probiotics. But I always try to find the, see if there's a natural, natural way first. Mm-hmm. Cool. Hey, Steve. Hey, can you hear me all right? Thank you. Yeah. How are you? Can you hear me, Aaron? I can hear you. I'm all right. so if there's too much... Yeah, I'm driving,

I can hear you guys fine. I'm driving, though, so if there's road noise or something, just feel free to cut me off, but I've been tuning in here on the road. Awesome. How have you been? I think I caught most of the show. Doing well. I think I caught most of the show thus far and kudos to you for undergoing the fast in Roger's honor. As far as I understand it, that's kind of the goal, right? That's what you're doing, is that correct? I'm doing that while also try. I've done a lot of fasting. I'm also trying to educate people about the power of fasting because it really is something from, you know, since a lot of the audience are similarly there, you know,

and caps or voluntarist or whatever. It's very much a self-empowering thing. Right. Like if you want to talk about taking your own agency, this this is something where you are really you are taking control of of this process. And it has all kinds of positive physical, mental and emotional benefits. So I've wanted to try to express and teach people what I've learned over the years doing this, not only doing it, but then researching it. And this is kind of a great way. And it's actually aligned even with Roger because it's an empowering thing that you're doing and raising awareness of his situation. And I'm hoping others join in, I think, because you hear about a lot of political protests.

It's usually like it's one guy doing it or maybe a couple of people. But but, you know, what if you got a bunch of people doing it all over the world? Yeah, yeah, that's great. So this obviously isn't your first fast. What day are you on at this point? This is day number three. Okay, all right. So you should be close to getting past the hangry stage, as I recall, having done this before myself. yes I that's uh I uh I I'm past pretty much past the hangry phase the brain fog is lifting it is a big fatigue day and it's a big water day because autophagy is is kind of peak so I'm flushing stuff out but yeah this is actually the worst day it actually gets better from here I've done I did

two hundred days of fasting in twenty twenty two twenty twenty three and thirty eight days is my longest You did two hundred days continuous. Is that what you're saying? Not continuous. Two hundred days over. I was going to say, all right, you were Gandhi mode there. Thirty eight days is my Oh, no, no. longest continuous. Gandhi's is only twenty one. So he's kind of that's. That's still, yeah, that's incredibly impressive. You probably recall the master cleanse was kind of popular in the mid, early two thousands. it'd been around for decades before that, I mean, but it kind of got some resurgence in the early, mid two thousands. And I did a ten day fast at that point.

And as I recall about day three or four, where you are now is the toughest. And from that day forward, it was more of a mental game than anything else. the physical attribute and the You know, biological need to eat subsided substantially. And from that point on, it was just a mental game for the rest of it. Hats off, man. That's awesome. Thirty-eight days is very impressive. Now, are you doing straight water? Are you doing any kind of like lemonade, maple syrup kind of concoction, cayenne pepper thing? Or what are you doing? absolutely no calories that there's no No, there's the only thing that I do have is electrolytes and salt. So I have I use Dr. Berg's electrolytes,

which is which is high in necessary potassium. And then salt is critical to this. I have done water only and it wasn't worth it. Like I can do water only, but I will not be productive. There are different ways of going about doing this, but I fully intend to be, as I said from the first episode that I did in this series, I intend to do a year's worth of content in whatever duration this fast ends up being. Once you get in the zone, once you're operating on ketones and you're locked in, it's amazing what you can get done. Yeah, I can echo that. The mental clarity, the heightened sense of smell and taste, especially was what was

most prominent for me. Yeah, that's awesome. Keep going, man. I intermittent fast have been doing for about I guess close to three years now doing the intermittent fasting thing. I really don't eat between seven at night and twelve the next window. It works really well. Go ahead. You broke the programming. You broke the programming that breakfast is the most important meal of the day. You managed to move yourself away from the PSYOP. That's commendable. Yeah, well, you know,

being a cancer survivor... there's few things as motivating to get proactive with your health than dealing with a cancer diagnosis. And so when I was diagnosed in, uh, in twenty twenty, the squamous cell carcinoma, I went pretty deep down the rabbit hole on health, nutrition, diet, lifestyle, exercise, the whole nine. Um, and, uh, yeah, you know, it's, you were, you were mentioning some of the, um, the PSYOP and, and bullshit around, um, the food pyramid and, and, uh, uh usda and fda which I wholeheartedly echo there the pyramid is absolutely upside down um and the question is is it malicious um or just out of pure

ignorance um uh I I would almost tend to I think it's it's the former because of the the the big ag that is um pushing for that a carb-based food pyramid. But I don't know if you've had any here. Go ahead. I was going to say, I actually went through that. It is malicious. And there's no doubt about it. Everything from the low-fat diet being popular was a psyop by this guy Ancel Keys, who is associated with the American Heart Association and tied to chronic stress. all of it the food pyramid and you know it's it's you you can and so what I wanted to do is not only

lay out these things that are but lay out the who is behind it and the fact that not only were they not held accountable but they profited from it and that that continues and that the new guys coming next are even worse I I mean I had a disclaimer at the beginning I said don't listen to your doctors never studied fasting And public health is a death cult. And I'm going to provide evidence of this. I don't say this willy-nilly. I've been studying this stuff for a long time. And then I had a healthcare company. And I was in that whole system with insurance and even dealing with people at the Harvard Public School of Health on ethics and everything else. And I studied public health

for a while at Harvard. And it's all bullshit. And it's provable bullshit from inception. Public health never had the intent of... improving people's health. It had the intent of population control and eugenics. Yeah, I tend to agree. My first exposure to this firsthand was when I was going through radiation to my head and neck. It was very excruciating toward the end of radiation to get anything down. I was determined to keep swallowing because so many people lose that ability during radiation to that area of the body. and my nutritionist mind you my md licensed nutritionist

that was part of my oncology team the first thing she wants to do is push this boost on me the second ingredient in his corn syrup we know that cancer needs sugar to survive and thrive and this is what she's pushing on me to get down uh during a cancer treatment and diagnosis and I I mean I asked her point blank I said Do you realize the ingredients in this crap that you're actually recommending to people? And you don't get much of a reply. You know, they just kind of nod their head and go along because that's what they're supposed to do. But that was my first spidey sense tingling moment where I thought, well, this is bass-ackwards completely. But I was curious. I didn't hear you mention it,

and you may have, and I just missed it. But have you read Fiat Food by Matthew Lisiak? I have. I think you recommended it to me, and I did get it, and I read through it. I was familiar with most of it, but yeah, it's a good book. I mean, it does... hit a lot of the high points. And so obviously, yeah, these organizations are captured and they have been since inception. Like there's not, this is the thing that I do harp on all the time. Like I hear RFK talking about, you know, returning to gold standard science. There was no gold standard science. This is the, this is a pipe dream. um but uh yeah no it's a good book and uh so at least half of it the second half he turns into a

bitcoin maxi but yeah yep hey can I ask have either of you ever gone to uh nih pubmed and looked uh searched ivermectin and cancer I I have not that I I have yes I've I've gone pretty deep down that rabbit hole while I was going through the um the journey myself uh there's about all things considered I was out of commission for about eight weeks and my type of cancer does have a high cure rate so if you're going to get cancer you want to get the one that I had but um zero out of five stars getting radiation to your throat I do not recommend that by any means but yes to answer your question um ivermectin and

fenbendazole both of those two um medications off label Anecdotally, if nothing else, show quite a bit of promise. One of the first things I did when I was diagnosed was reached out to an integrative oncologist because I wanted somebody that was going to take more of a natural approach to my treatment plan. that was the first person I reached out to and the first thing he did was put me on high dose ivermectin um right out of the gate so I took that for most of my uh well through all of my treatment scenario and then I still will periodically dose it if I feel like I'm coming on coming down with

something we did just this the worst winter in our household ever last winter was probably and got two young kids in school and they're walking petri dishes so we just kind of uh got sick and spread it around the house for the better part of two months but I you know anecdotally I was taking ivermectin during that time and having had covered in twenty twenty the sickest I have ever been in my life um this go around actually did test positive for covert but It was no more than about twenty-four hours of not feeling quite up to call. It passed pretty quickly. I don't know if that was the And again, ivermectin or just the fact that this virus has mutated

to the point where it's fairly benign at this point. But yes, it comes up to that. I work with people that and so I'm I'm always suggesting or recommending that they do some reading up on the link between ivermectin being a and not only a combatant in a cancer diagnosis but a good um prophylactic as well boy I agree too um ivermectin um from a parasitic you know link to different forms of cancer seems to be probable. Let's just say that. Yeah, you know, I've heard the argument of

cancer being a parasite, and I don't know enough as far as biology and chemistry to argue against that. I don't know that I fully buy that argument, but the fact that ivermectin does show promise and and fighting it could lend some credibility to that um that positive um a great book that I found really helpful if anybody out there is listening that is dealing with cancer and knows somebody who is and there's a great book by travis christopherson called tripping over the truth which is a fascinating read um that I highly recommend uh if you're dealing with cancer nobody who is goes into a lot of in-depth

history of cancer and its treatment um the ugly side of it follow the money of course is always the rule of thumb in life in every aspect I mean there's definitely a lot of ties there to big money and big pharma I went up to sloan-kettering tip of the spear while I was going through um through my uh my journey I went up there um after surgery prior to getting radiation to have an oncology um consultation and I sat there in sloan-kettering in new york um in one of their clinics tip of the spear for cancer research and I watched literally the revolving door of people coming in and out of that place for treatment um and I said well this is very

obvious a massive multi-billion dollar business and they have zero incentive to actually cure cancer when they're making this much money off of it um on average when you get diagnosed with cancer you're looking at uh you've got about a six hundred thousand dollar price tag on your head and everybody wants a piece of that pie everybody wants us you talk to the surgeon they want to cut on you you talk to the radiologist they want to blast you with the magic light You talk to the oncologist, they want to pump you full of poison in the form of chemotherapy. They all want a piece of that pie because they all want to be able to write that ICD-TEN code and bill Medicare or your insurance

for it and get paid. There is zero incentive from the traditional American standard, American Medical Association standard of care. There's zero incentive to cure cancer when it's such big business. Yep. That is absolutely true. I think it was Sloan Kettering. I'm trying to remember now. I saw some documentary from some whistleblower that was in the PR department of Sloan Kettering or one of the other ones that actually then exposed. I'm going to dig up what that was because it was a fascinating documentary. story where one of the uh there was a treatment that actually worked and one of the senior scientists had kind of validated it and he got pushed out and they held a press conference and

it's been a gigantic uh cover-up and then of course there's g edward griffin's book world without cancer if you haven't read that I recommend it he's uh He pushes vitamin B-seventeen, but whether that's true or not, the book has a very fascinating history about big pharma and the ties to German companies and how all that kind of pieced together historically. And so this is why... This is why literally, I mean, I avoid this and I avoid the medical system entirely. And then public health is very much malicious and intense. I mean, even down to the fact that it's like, OK,

well, the sun's going to give us cancer because of the environment. So we're going to give you a carcinogen to put on for sunscreen. I mean, it's kind of like the COVID policy all over again. It's like they manufacture something and then give you a poison. So... Of course. They're the arsonists and then try to claim to be the firefighters. Yes, exactly. Exactly. So I, so, you know, again, we'll see how long this, if I go the full distance with the fast, I'm going to be putting out a lot of content. And a lot of this stuff is stuff that I know and I've researched over years, but usually people see a meme for me and you might not have to think there's any context behind it,

but people are going to get a fire hose of really interesting stuff. We'll see how, well, I won't be on YouTube for very long. Yeah. bring it love it love to hear it man yeah there's a uh a researcher and I think the last name is seymour and he has been researching um the link of how to starve cancer and of course you know um glucose is one of them but I think the other one is I'm trying to remember. It's glycamine? Anyway, I don't know if any of you... Does that sound familiar to any of you? Yes, I'm familiar. I can't remember his first name either, but I know you're talking

about... He's written quite a few books on the topic. And he's mentioned at length in that Travis Christopherson book, Tripping Over the Truth, that uh yes I I'm familiar and that's the first thing I did when diagnosis I immediately cut out sugar from my diet refined sugar and then very quickly moved on to removing carbohydrates excess of carbohydrates so I'm primarily carnivore at this point kind of a keto vore if you will um not straight meat I eat a lot of avocado too I include kraut in almost every meal for the probiotics just like karen was talking about earlier um but not a lot my meals

are absolutely protein heavy and dense um beef chicken fish pork I mean I really don't discriminate on the meats but mostly ground beef it's just because it's easy to prepare and then uh airfrights I can actually cook something my wife's so proud of me now I can actually cook up um but um yeah cutting out I mean that's the thing you know we can demonize modern medicine all we want but at the end of the day it's um the individual that's shoving this crap in our mouths that's causing us to be sick And you can't really blame anybody but yourself for so much of the maladaptive behaviors and symptoms that we're dealing with and

eating poison for the better part of the last half century. You know, it's insane. And I guess that you can play ignorance on that. Well, it's an uphill battle when you are going to health class in public school and they're putting the food pyramid down with six to eleven students in cars. And it's when public health is coming out and telling you to eat three square meals. And then when you're getting bombarded with breakfast as the most important meal of the day, you actually have to go. You have to realize that the whole system is bullshit and exit it before you can actually have good health. Because if you believe in any of these institutions you're supposed to believe in,

that will make you sick. Literally. That's what they want. They want you fat, sick and nearly dead. Type two diabetes is a perfect example. They're making in twenty twenty two. It was thirty seven thousand five hundred dollars a year average profit for for a health care professional taking care of a diabetes patient. You can cure type two diabetes with two tablespoons of chia seeds every day in water. You know, it's simple as that. The number one blood pressure medication still to this day with the least amount of side effects, garlic. Better than anything. But you can't patent it. Yep. Yeah. Glutamine.

That's the other one. Yep. Glutamine. Glutamine. Yep. Um, and, uh, uh, there was a recent paper that, um, the gentleman Seymour had just published a couple of months ago. And I'm still trying to find his first name. Thomas, Thomas, Thomas. There you go. And he, um, And people discount him because he's not a medical doctor. He's a researcher with a PhD. And it's been his life's pursuit for something like forty years. But he's discounted just because he's not a medical doctor in the field. It's ridiculous. doctors should be discounted And again, because doctors learn

twenty-two hours of nutrition and zero about fasting. I would discount a medical doctor heavily. uh but I'll look into this guy because yeah I'm seeing this right right here as well but but this guy uh alan goldhammer I I'm gonna go through and I'll be analyzing more of his research I mean again now now doing a fast with with ai is gonna is gonna really level this up but I I think people are gonna be shocked uh about what you can do with fasting and again it's a threat it's a complete threat because if the answer to this is is to eat nothing then you know That's problematic. Nobody gets a check for that. Not even Big Food. No. Oh, my goodness.

Imagine having Big Food and Big Pharma after you at the same time. And the CIA. There you go. Turn everybody into breatharians. Yeah, there you go. Well, isn't Jack Cruz big on light? Oh, huge. Huge on light. I mean, that's it. It's... Lights affect, you need your circadian rhythm in the morning. You get that red light, massive in the morning. The blue light in your screens is burning out your dopamine receptors. It's causing you to not metabolize your food correctly. It's greatly affecting your mood. Having any light at night when you're sleeping is greatly affecting your health. and and and of course this

was all apparently because he's one of the a researcher too big time bugsy siegel all the guys back in in vegas figured all this stuff out from the casinos keeping people right casinos and then darpa picked up on it and they started doing the major studies on it the you know to perfect the the and then darpa gave the the patents to google So Google actually owns all the blue light patents for your screen and everything. Now, you can make, you know, like a Kindle is a paper screen, they call. The more sunlight you get on it, the better you can see it. That's actually reflective light. And you're getting a lot more reds. And we have those screens. We can do those screens.

But the blue light keeps you on the screen. The blue light makes you heavy. The blue light causes your chronic diseases and everything else. And the blue light, your LED, incandescent lights, full of red light and full spectrum. These LEDs we got in our hair that last for eleven and a half years, you know, blue light. Very little. And then sunscreen, you're right. And then everybody's wearing glasses. I bet you got UV coating on those glasses right there. Absolutely not. You need all that UV light into your eyes. One of the things he talks about is father-in-law's old military toughest nails guy macular degeneration to the point that he was getting shots in his eyes

so the guy breaks falls off a roof breaks his arm and jack has him go do four treatments a day twenty minutes of the red light tells him to put on the black glasses he doesn't do it six months later his macular degeneration is gone wow yeah because he's getting massive amounts of the red light repairing his retinas because that's part of your brain And it's adding – we're all electrical now. The heart's not really pumping. It's more of reacting to the – The impulses. Yeah, the electrical impulses in the swirl. Why can't I say it? The whirlwind that comes to – Magnetic. Yeah, yeah. You know, when you have – vortex vortex but the light

is adding massive amounts of electrons to your cells through your eyes absolutely and it's um what was that researcher oh I read about this years ago but she was finding forty pulse lights they were using rats and they were curing alzheimer's oh this is what they were doing they were doing uh they opened up their skulls and they were doing uh electrical impulses they figure out they could do it laser impulses right to the uh to the brain and with for twenty four hours the brain would clean out all the gunk all the crap that causes alzheimer's and then she figured out that you could do it right through the eyes all you had to do was do the four for for I think it's I think it's a

forty hertz you can look it up it's for an hour a day you do the light you do the sound and it clean it causes your brain to clean out for twenty four hours And so that back then I find Jack a couple of three or four months ago, five months ago and start really digging into his stuff. And he's got the goods, you know, he's got the studies. I hate articles. I only read studies. I read an article to find out where they get the study from. It's like that pyramid crap underneath the pyramids that's going around. Yeah. Was that LIDAR or whatever? No, it's not LIDAR. If it was LIDAR, I'd believe it. Yeah. Yeah. And the tech, the tech might be there, but yeah, I hold my breath.

Not once I've seen some serious physicists talk about it. You ever, ever looked at the rife machine? Oh, it's one hundred percent. Correct. I bet I, my, I had a alternative medicine guy, Chris Kaufman, when I used to live down in Sarasota, twenty, twenty five years ago, had a rife machine. I've looked at the research of rice stuff. Everything is resonance. Everything is down to say, have you ever looked at like a Mora machine or a Skio? In Germany, they're big on these are the and they've been around for twenty, thirty years or longer. How do you spell that? one of mora m-o-r-a or m-o-r-r-a I think that was the german doctor's name uh was more and where it first came and what he did and

they took thousands of patients and they just measured the cell resonance they usually along acupuncture lines and so healthy cells resonate one way unhealthy cells resonate another way and through thousands of people they figured out I can go right now and chris now does this remotely with probes because you can all computers he would put me on his machine he could tell run me through all the different residents find out exactly what was messing with me he could treat me there or give me supplements or or uh not necessarily supplements um homeopathics You did wonderful stuff for my wife, to take care of things. but you could read the resonance of the cell and know exactly what's going on.

It's the best diagnostic machines I've ever seen in my life for peeling back the onion. I've actually got a bio well. Is that one of those similar things? It's one of the ones you put your fingertips in it, and it measures the electrical current, and then it gives you a diagram. It's really an interesting device. I can't get it to work because it's not USB-C, and the connector thing makes it not function properly. But it was invented by this Russian guy. It uses gas discharge visualization technology. And it measures your energy field. So it's a pretty interesting technology.

I actually did some meditation retreats with Dr. Joe Dispenza. They actually have a thing that measures the energy of the room. They've been using it to measure. There is something to meditation, and I will talk about that. as well we went to a couple of my wife and I went to a couple of meditation retreats of his and again it ties into frequency and a lot of the meditative techniques are about heart brain coherence there there is a scientific element to it if and he actually breaks it down pretty well but it was interesting that the bio well was um how he was measuring some of this stuff and they have some pretty phenomenal results at this point with the effectiveness of meditation,

not only individually, but the ability to do group meditation and group healing. That's a whole fascinating area. Do any of you guys ever look Oh, nice. Thanks. at any stuff by Randall Carlson? Yes. Yes. Yeah. He had a, um, he's amazing. Great. Oh yeah. Amazing stuff. But he had a guy on a couple, Oh, it was only about a week ago. And this guy has got his PhD now, his old friend, but he got his PhD and they, he's working in a Institute. I want to say it's in Arizona, all about meditation. And they're doing some really fascinating stuff with the different States. Um, uh, and, and learning how they function and, uh, affect our lives and how we

function every day. I did some of the Monroe Institute stuff. we have yes so that I have the whole gateway one through twenty four or whatever it is the hemisphere the hemi sink the hemisync which I haven't got I've gotten I didn't spend as much time on that as I should but I ended up I ended up spending more time uh on thomas campbell stuff if you've ever heard of thomas campbell he wrote a trilogy of books called my big toe my big theory of everything but thomas campbell worked at the monroe institute he was a physicist and bob monroe basically brought him in in the very early days bob monroe basically had out-of-body experiences he owned a

radio station but he didn't have a scientific background and and started having out-of-body experiences and was kind of like what is this all about can you know can other people do this or whatever and so brought in tom campbell and they they started figuring out how you could replicate these experiences and started using biarnal beats where you put you put one frequency in one ear and a slightly different frequency in the other and what that does is that your brain entrains to the difference between those two frequencies and so you can get into the alpha wave state when you're in the alpha wave state that's when you can you can have a whole bunch of these meditative experiences and

so uh but tom campbell does his own things individually so yeah I've gone down this whole rabbit it's it's fascinating I in fact if COVID hadn't happened, that's the kind of stuff I was spending all my time on and was going, I was going really deep into it. And it, it, boy, it is quite a rabbit hole, I mean, wow. by the way. Yeah. I, I've got the hemisync stuff too. And I, Sean Ryan did an interview with, um, He was the guy was remote viewer number one in the and he talked all about the Moreau Institute. He worked with the Moreau Institute, too. You've probably seen who Right. you're talking about. Yeah, that guy's fast. Yeah, he was in Vietnam. Yeah.

Yeah. Fascinating. Oh, amazing. Right. Amazing stories. Amazing talent. There's something to that, you know. Have you guys ever looked at any Dr. Donald Hoffman stuff? The name sounds familiar. He's the consciousness guy out in California, right? Yeah, whatever reality is, it's not what we see. All we see is an adaptive fiction. Yes. Fascinating. Great stuff. That doesn't work politically. No, it doesn't work politically, but I... last century, back in the eighties, I, someone handed me the one

of Castaneda's books, the fire from within. And I wound up reading all of them in multiple times. And I, in forty years, uh, every scientific breakthrough along those, why those lines to me has done nothing but proven that world reality view. Hmm. Uh, I don't know if you guys ever looked at it. Tom Campbell, so he actually was probably the first one to talk about the idea that we live in a simulation. And in fact, that is his whole, his books go into describing how it works. So when you're accessing what's kind of the Akashic record, what's referred to in other

other traditions he's like no you're basically accessing the database we're in the simulation and database and there's there you're accessing the are future probabilities and you know you can change those probabilities but but basically we are in a simulated reality and so a lot of his meditative techniques are about the fact that if something's a one in a billion probability, it isn't likely to happen. You may be able to skew some of these probabilities. We do still have free will, but we're working within a set where you're doing a random draw from a probability distribution when when various things happen. And so now what he claims he can do is, you know, go in these,

he can be in these states simultaneous. And, and, and interestingly, he was a physicist and a programmer. And so he was able, so he first started, he took a transcendental meditation course or something in that workshop in the seventies, then realized, you know, meditation is real. Then he hooked up with Bob Monroe, but he was at a point where he was working on like NASA simulations and he was able to solve stuff nobody else could solve because he was able to get into the meditative state so I I can't do most of the stuff that he talks about I've had some brief glimpses into into some of it but it's amazing what what he's kind of put together but what's the most amazing to

me about him steve just said did you just see him on rogan I just saw that he was on rogan I was shocked when I found this guy you know six years ago that like why isn't this mainstream new why is this guy not mainstream You know what I mean? Like, why isn't this like a popular thing? And why is it that it's always, you know, it's Elon Musk and it's that other guy that talked It's like Tom Campbell was about simulation theory. talking about this. Twenty years ago. Like, why is this guy not, not, not in it? But anyway, it's fascinating. Oh yeah. Yeah. The Hawaiian. I actually just found that a That's that. Yeah. couple of weeks ago. Oh, this isn't what I thought was coming. This guy did his,

did a big school paper analyzing all the castaneda and don juan teachings and so yeah it's a really concise I found it pretty I'm only about a third of the way through it um but he's done a really good job of putting together the core ideas if you guys ever want to take a look at that another link is one of the skio machines cool I just bookmarked it. I'm just bookmarking that right now as well. Gentlemen, I'm going to have to sign off. Hey, Aaron, tomorrow, if you are able to, would be Eleven Eastern World Blockchain Roundtable. The topic is blockchain meets Main Street with tokenized assets. Oh, yeah. I'll be on for that.

I got it. Well, we'll see. Unless I feel really weird. But yeah, no, I will plan on that. That's right up my alley. Yeah. Let me know if you need the link. I think you're still getting the links from. Yeah, it's in my calendar. I'm getting all of it. Dan, it was a pleasure meeting you. It was a pleasure meeting you, sir. It sounds like maybe we're kind of close to the same age. Remember the old movie Altered States? Oh, my God, yes. I remember that. Yeah. Yeah, I remember. I'll tell you one better. There was a club in Atlanta. right under the the tunnel from georgia tech that's where I went to school called club six eighty eight and they had six televisions large and small

and they just played altered states twenty four seven oh it was a punk club so oh wow Yeah, I'm I'm fifty seven, about three fifty eight. Well, I just turned sixty two. All right. So. So, yeah, we're not far off. You know, not far off at all. And again, tomorrow, I appreciate everything you're doing, Aaron, and keep up this fast. And I support you, my friend. Thank you. I appreciate it. And thank you, everybody, for joining. This is all I learned a whole bunch. I bet a lot of people are going to learn a lot of things today. And I've got a whole bunch of things bookmarked. I've got some books from Steve. I mean, this is a bunch of resources here. So I appreciate it.

And I'm glad that people are participating in this. I hope people get value out of it. I know I do. Oh, I do too. Hey Aaron, I'd love to spend an hour or so going over you with you on asset use cases. Cause I got a ton of them. Well, I will tell you what next week I'm going to make next week Zeno focused. But one of the things that I'm talking about and Sal the agorist who was on last day, I want to do one where we just start talking about and presenting different asset use cases. Cause I think the public doesn't, that doesn't think abstractly about it and I I think that it would be a good idea to just get people excited about some concrete examples and maybe that'll spur their

creativity a hundred percent I agree yeah thanks guys all right have a good night have a good night thanks so much