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Oh, I'm just finding out that my mic is muted. Uh, so sorry about that. I guess we'll start over. Welcome to season two or excuse me, season 3, episode 13, 12. Wow, it's a good day so far. U, today we're talking about Ohio Captured. And uh the topic is really about uh we talk about technocracy as being a global movement. And we talk a lot about we've talked about the board of peace or the UN or the WF or how technocrats are infiltrating the US government, you know, Elon Musk, Peter Teal, so on and so forth. Uh but tonight we're going to talk about what I think is perhaps one of the most important topics with technocracy, which is how technocracy is

infiltrating at the local and state level. And in particular, we're going to talk about Ohio, which is probably the worst of all of the states in terms of the acceleration of technocracy. Whitney Webb recently wrote an article about this, which is a great article, and I recommend that you read it. Uh but Craig Winklewitz, who will be joining me uh tonight, actually lives in Ohio and has has been living this and researching this for a long time and actually has a whole new layer uh kind of above and beyond what what Whitney discussed. So we'll discuss some of Whitney's information, which is great information. Uh but man, Craig has uh has really drilled down in this and in fact he's

been talking to me about this for months and months and uh he has put together a lot of the pieces and we've talked about well when is the right time to uh to bring this up and I think now the timing is good because you know Whitney brought this up and so it's now starting to get out there. Uh but it's also completely relevant given where uh Ohio sits in relation to everything that's going on with AI and everything that's going on actually with national defense and a whole variety of topics also tying into Epstein. So this is going to be really important and I would really appreciate if you guys would like and share this. I I I am shadowbanned. I had I've had a

good run for a couple of weeks, but I could tell when we launched this thing that uh and I've I've been looking at my traffic over the last few days and uh and it's dropped off. So, it's it is something algorithmic. I mean, I've been getting anywhere from 2 to four million impressions a week on X and and so all of a sudden it's dropped off. So, I don't know what the cause of it is, but I could certainly use your help getting this out there. And again, this is one of these episodes where you see a title, Ohio captured or whatever, you might you might think, well, I'm not in Ohio. This is relevant to everyone because I believe what we're discussing tonight is

a pattern that is likely going on in all of our states and people should really start waking up to it. Um, as usual, I'm going to, you know, highlight the last couple of episodes and encourage you to take a look because we've really been building a theme. Last week's theme was Operation Warp Speed 2.0. know, and I walk through some of the legislation and executive orders and acts and policies from the administration that are going on while we're distracted by war and $4 gas and so on and so forth. uh including uh you know a really egregious AI policy, cyber policy uh and even the SAVE act even the the voting thing which is um you know whether I I'm not against

you know voter ID but centralizing it and giving that power to the DHS is a really bad idea in especially in conjunction with all of the other uh grabs that are going on for data and centralization. And then the week before that I think is actually a mustwatch. I think this is the most important topic and actually Craig joined me for that. Uh Patrick Wood also joined on that episode and this was a discussion of the board of peace. I think if you understand the board of peace, you will understand why we are uh fighting in Iran, why we launched an attack against Iran. And when as a kind of a side project of the board of peace, when you see what's going on in Gaza,

uh the entire country of Gaza has been leveled. At least 70,000 people have been killed. Some people I put out a music video on that. It was actually the first one that I played tonight. And some people are suggesting that, you know, they're mad at me because they're saying it's actually 600,000 or 700,000. And I that's horrific. I that may be true. 70,000 is horrific. I mean, it it in any event, it is a you know, it's a genocide. And they destroyed 90% of all the buildings. Well, the board of peace, three members of the board of peace are involved with a multi-, you know, tens of billions of dollar reconstruction projects which is going to turn Gaza into a digital prison. It is a

technocratic plan even in their own words. six AI powered digital cities, Oracle, Palunteer, the Trump family stable coin, USD1 is being proposed as the currency for the technocratic rebuild of Gaza. In other words, we are using taxpayer money and and American lives to kill innocent people, destroy buildings, and then specific people who are politically connected and/or currently in office are the ones making money off of the technocratic reconstruction. This takes everything that we've been talking to talking about which may seem theoretical about technocracy, you know, ideas about 15minute cities and everything else, sketch drawings, and

turns it into something concrete where you can see this is exactly how they're doing it. This is how they're structuring it. Here's how the tech will work, how the surveillance will work, and who here's who will make money. It is it is the blueprint. And tonight we're going to tie things that are going on at your state and local level starting with Ohio all the way to the board of peace to show how all of these pieces fit together. Uh I will remind you that you know I'm still exploring a race. Um and I won't rehash all of that. There will certainly be more as we uh advance through this. But um you know, I'm calling on Trump to take the draft off the table, end the war on crypto, free

the crypto prisoners of war, fire Howard Lutnik, and stop the Clarity Act. You know, things that uh frankly are in line with what he said when he ran for president. Uh I think he's gone so far off the script and so far off of what he said he was going to do that obviously he's losing a lot of support and this situation in Iran is looking looking ugly. But, uh, you know, if he doesn't make some big movement on on some of those pieces, then I may, uh, very well go full in on this race. And as it stands, according to the prediction markets, it's a 50/50 tossup as to which party controls the Senate. And in New Hampshire, it is a onepoint race. The Democrat is one point ahead in the polls

without me being included in the polls. And historically, I've gotten between two and 3%. Actually, the last time I ran for sheriff one time, I got a over 4% of the vote and that was without campaigning. So, if I enter the race, if my name is on the ballot, uh, the Republican John Einu loses and the Republicans may lose control. The implications are huge for Trump because it could mean that he gets impeached and possibly convicted. So, more news on that as it as it emerges. Uh, again, I talked last week about a lot of the great podcasts that I've been on. uh there's more momentum there. I can't go into all the details, but I let's just say over the next six months uh what we

have been talking about here uh in terms of you know technocracy, the acceleration of technocracy, the creature from Epstein's island, all of that uh will reach millions of of people. And I' I've got some things going on that I'm extremely excited about and uh I will share with you as as soon as I possibly can. and a lot of things are kind of resolving around and a lot of activities that I'm working on are building to this Libertarian National Convention. And you know, if I'm running for office, I'm running as an independent. It's not about the Libertarian party per se, but this is going to be uh a collection of a thousand libertarians from from all over the world. But more importantly, we're

doing a couple of events within the convention that I'm really excited about. There's an entire crypto corner that we have, a whole section right outside of the main convention area where we're going to be talking about a lot of projects. I'm going to be talking about, you know, the six different websites that we have and technocracy atlas and OSR and, you know, the um the privacy phone, which I we have I I think around sometime the week of April the 20th, we're going to officially launch this the deled phone uh with all the apps. Uh Zeno is going to be there and they're going to be presenting and doing a workshop. I'm going to be doing a keynote speech um at the actual

convention itself in front of all 10,000 people. Uh but then we have the enemies of the state party which I'm uh very excited about. I had Dan O'Neal on a couple of episodes ago and um he's putting that together again. That's his uh his brainchild and and boy, I'll tell you, we've got some exciting things planned. Unfortunately, there are more um enemies that we're going to be advocating for this time than there were last time. Uh but uh last time was successful. I mean, you know, we had the party the night before President Trump announced he was going to commute Trump's sentence. Uh Roger Ver uh is at least not in prison. I I I still think he should be pardoned and the gag order

isn't great, but at least he's not in prison. And um and so there's progress even from that. And so, uh, the event itself is going to have Ammon Bundy, uh, Afroman, and then a variety of people advocating for the other enemies. And we're going to be live streaming this, uh, through multiple channels. So, my goal is to get hundreds of thousands of viewers through the live stream. So, by partnering with some people that have some large have large channels and large distribution, we really want to get this out out there. We want to make this uh, an event. The whole point of it is to raise awareness about each of these cases and to get that word out. Obviously, you've got a concentration of

libertarians. There's going to be press there. That's that's great. That's kind of your hardcore base. But then we want to take the event itself and reach hundreds of thousands of people if not more because these stories as we've been discussing them on this show, as I've been interviewing either the enemies themselves or their lawyers or you their loved ones, um it's tragic what's going on. It's tragic that it's accelerating and it can be stopped. It can be stopped very quickly just through either pardons or stopping illegal actions that are going on. For instance, the most recent is against Ray Yousef um kind of out of the blue as he was uh deported from

Mexico and and picked up for for stuff from a long time ago that's of the same caliber of ridiculous charge that that Ian Freeman uh is is facing. And so uh so I'm working towards that event and towards making that a big event. I will also be speaking at the Rage Against the War Machine event, which is another separate event within the Libertarian Convention. And I spoke at the Rage Against the War Machine event in 2024 in Washington DC. That was the night or the day before the uh uh Rescue the Republic event. And in this event, I you know, Scott Horton is going to be speaking. It's not a large uh a large thing. There only four or five of us uh speaking so

far, but um um I believe Daniel McAdams with the Ron Paul Institute uh the the the guy that you know was putting together the Defend the Guard project. So um you know, this is really important as well. In fact, I'm I'm going to reach out to them and talk to them about live streaming that event because you know, where are our anti-war people? We certainly need them now and we certainly need to get that uh that message out. So that's what's going on. I will say, you know, I encourage you to, you know, check out freenow.org and certainly there are other prisoners. Uh you can find those at at day2026.com. But I want to highlight today Ian Freeman. Um and you know, hope hoping

that uh you know, maybe there's some good news uh in in his future. Um he's been in prison since 2023, 8year sentence again for for nothing. uh you know essentially they threw out the moneyaundering charge. His biggest charge is conspiracy to commit moneyaundering. They threw out moneyaundering but kept the conspiracy. It's just it's absolutely absurd on its face. Now I'm actually working on something in the background. I wanted to have it uh done for the beginning of this show. Um I'm doing a a new music video, dedicated music video just about Ian. Uh but it's still still rendering. So depending upon how long we go, I we've got a lot of content tonight. So

I'm hopeful that uh you know, by the time this is uh done that uh at the end of the show, I'll be able to to show that. Again, it'll be rough because I will not even have been able to edit it. But um uh at least you get to hear the song and then probably see some choppy choppy video. But then, you know, tonight, tomorrow, I'll work on on enhancing that. So, with that said, I'm going to bring up uh Craig Winklewitz and uh we're going to talk tonight about the TechNate that's going on in Ohio, the blueprint, uh and again, all the pieces going on there, which uh I I think Craig knows more about this than than anyone I know, uh hands down, uh in terms of the depth of where this goes.

And I've been kind of blown away by some of the connections that he made. and he made these connections and was talking to me about this stuff before the Epstein files came out. And so, you know, even with the Epstein files, the Epstein files are great in and of themselves because they show what Epstein is doing, but where did Epstein come from? What's the history behind that? Who's behind Epstein? And and Craig has a lot of great information about that. So, hey Craig, how are you? >> Good Erin. How are you doing tonight? How's it sound? >> Sounds good. Good. Good. We had a we had a storm a couple weeks ago and my one computer got torched and so I I'm running off an iPad tonight. So

hopefully this sounds good. >> Oh wow. Sorry to sorry to hear that. It's a real storm or manufacturing storm. Mike, which company made the storm? >> Yeah, that's right. Yeah. American Electric Power. >> Yeah. Um, so you guys know Craig? Craig's been on here for uh several times. Wall Street veteran um has has his podcast. In fact, I was on his podcast on Rumble. That's how uh how we met. He's been in Ohio for uh for years. And so, you know, tonight we're going to talk about how the county, state, uh local is all is all captured. And and man, it is amazing uh how bad things are in Ohio. And um I think this might change a lot of your perspectives on this. But more

importantly, what I think what I hope comes out of this is that people start to question what's going on in their states. I think we need to be crowdsourcing research about what's going on with technocracy because once you see how this is kind of shadowy stuff that goes on behind the scenes and once you notice what the pattern is, then you can start to look for it in in other places. And I think that we need to to do that because in essence, at least my thesis is that these technocrats, they just hijack government and use force and use other taxpayer money to push their agendas at all levels. And so essentially, we are paying for their technocratic agenda.

This is not and this has to be separated a lot particularly for libertarians and people that are you know ancap and people you know I'm a I'm a limited limited is limited government or no government as possible and there's a lot of confusion about the idea that oh hey this is tech and these are successful entrepreneurs and this is being muddled in with free markets and capitalism. This has nothing to do with capitalism. This is all about using the state, using laws and and implementing programs to the benefit of of specific players with an end goal being to basically strip us of our free will. So this is this is not about free market capitalism. So I'm not

attacking free market capitalism. I I'm suggesting that if we wanted to reclaim free market capitalism, we would have to actually explain and show that what's going on here is not that. Well, if we do our job tonight, I think people will see that connection and how bad it really is. I mean, how how deep it's getting and um how quickly we're losing freedoms very quickly. >> Yeah. I me too. I I hope I hope people stick around for this. Again, I hope you like and share this. Um again, a lot of times people this might not be seem to be the sexiest of topics, but actually this is right over the target. 100% over the target. And and related, I mean, Ohio is a swing state. Ohio usually

determines the outcome of these national elections and it swings back and forth. Um, it's a bellweather state, but man, it is just critical here uh in terms of what's going on. And you know, in the past in the 80s or whatever, it's a big manufacturing state, so on and so forth, but now it's like the cutting edge of technocracy. You've got robotics, you've got defense contractors, data centers. It's just um mind-boggling what's going going on there. And so I mean before we get in just as if you're new I I'll give a my quick um explanation here of what um oh do I share's website to get his podcast uh listening from Houston. Uh you can share you can share the

website. It's also on YouTube. It's on Rumble. Uh it's on well it'll be on Spotify and iTunes but not until tonight or tomorrow. Uh but yeah, you can also share the website. The website right now just embeds YouTube. Uh but you can do the aarondayshow.com uh as well. But just for a quick background if you're new to the show, uh there's a lot of confusion. A lot of times when I talk about technocracy, people don't like the word technocracy. It's it's either boring or it's misunderstood. It's con it's confused as being techn uh technology which which it is not. Temocracy is a political ideology. This was a movement started in the 1930s

uh at at Columbia University in the basement of Columbia University. And it was this whole like cult thing where everybody would wear these gray suits and and the whole thesis behind this is that we are too stupid as individuals to make decisions for ourselves and that the only way forward, the only way humanity will survive is if scientists and engineers make decisions for people. And you the economy the the critical aspect of this is that you replace the economy with an energy credit system. So you no longer have a price-based system based on supply and demand. You have a contained energy credit system. Now this is miraculous that they came up with this in the 1930s before there was an

internet before there was a way to have digital currencies or surveillance or so forth to map all this stuff out. But sure enough, they had these documents and since the 1970s with the trilateral commission, this has been a fullcourt press through the trilateral commission, the WEF and other organizations to move in this direction. And we're now at the final stages of this and what's interesting about what's going on in Iran with people bombing each other's oil supply and you know the discussions now of there being lockdowns related to uh energy coming out of the IEA. This is setting up the uh the emergency by which you would implement a digital currency

backed by carbon credits. This is I mean we're kind of seeing this play out. So I want you to understand this is a a political ideology. This isn't technology. This is an ideology and it is anti-free will. I say that it's anti-free will because under technocracy you are you don't make decisions for yourself. You are told what you can and cannot do, what your behaviors can and cannot be within the system of energy credits. And so this is why to me this is this is so important. So it's not a matter of technology, it's a matter of uh and now the evolution of technocracy is instead of having scientists and engineers make decisions for you, we will have AI make decisions for us. And

so this is essentially critical to understand as we get into this. And so and you know Craig you feel you know this this introductory stuff is just kind of I'll get this out of the way and then we'll get into the >> um >> into into the heart of this but um you good know every technocratic takeover at least that I've seen so far this is kind of my thesis you know follows these four steps and you know the first is you know blur the lines so create public partner or excuse me public private partnerships this is uh you know again this is not capitalism public private partnerships are anything but that. So you you begin to blur the line between government and corporations. And then the second step

is you um you hide the money. You route public money through opaque organizations that are exempt from transparency laws. This is a big trick by the way that uh the defense department uses, many departments use. There are many laws that require the federal government to be transparent. And one way that they get around that is by working with contractors. Those contractors are not subject to that same transparency. So this is a this is a a trick that kind of applies even outside of the the technocratic discussion. This is a way that the government has been able to uh skip the transparency. Uh the step three is build a surveillance uh infrastructure which is then sold as

always safety and efficiency. Always safety and efficiency. these things get put in in emergencies. Uh or or Doge is the perfect example of this. People bought Doge. People got all excited. Doge is going to make, you know, we're going to we're going to eliminate the budget deficit. This was one of the discussions. $2 trillion in savings from Doge. That was never about that. It was about connecting the federal government databases to one another for data collection purposes. connecting Palunteer in particular through APIs to all of these government databases. And this has happened and I've shared this tweet now twice this week where it's now been announced that

Palunteer will be working with the IRS uh to come up with algorithms to figure out who to audit. Now, by the way, if you're a libertarian and you still think Peter Teal is a libertarian, um you I think I said something like you're either a Fed or you're a So, um, in any event, that's, you know, at this point when Palunteer is using their AI through a government contract to determine how audits work, that's not libertarian. Anyway, stage four is strip democratic oversight. Um, so make make how all of it works, how the relationships work, how the technology works, the infrastructure very too complex for voters to even understand. And then you rinse and

repeat that at every level, city, county, state, federal, and international. So this is essentially the playbook. And this is how the playbook uh scales. Um somebody says, oh, sorry, just face says uh intros are too long uh for future references. Uh I so I actually have to do the intro with the music and everything else because this is how I I share because uh we go live and primarily on X. I can't share links out until it's actually live. So one of the things I was working on is I didn't get it done in time, but a way of having some voice uh recordings between the video clips that explains what's going on. It's like, okay, this is the first song, you know, please share and

explains what's going on with this. And so uh it's critical to do that. But if you're new, you you'll realize that usually, you know, 15 to 20 minutes in is when the actual show starts. And I do the other stuff at the beginning just because it's it's important to get people caught up. There's a lot of content here. And so, I mean, after the fact, you know, there are show notes and everything on YouTube. You can you can click right through all of that and jump right in. But this is why it's it's done that way, just if you are interested. And at some point, if it changes, the mechanism changes, I may cut cut down uh the intro stuff. So um so with that said um you know again uh multiple levels

same mechanism um and so local you have smart city initiatives you have tax increment financing public private development deals. At the state level you have privatized economic development agencies you have digital ID mandates and data center subsidies. At the federal level, you have things like Doge, regulatory capture, intelligence community partnerships, and at the international level, you have things like the Gaza Board of Peace, the WHO pandemic treaty, uh, CBDC's, and so forth. But each of these levels reinforces the other and making it really impossible to to escape. You end up captured completely within the system. It's just that the system has various levels. So, with that

said, um why Ohio? Why was Ohio picked really to be uh the epicenter for this? And you know, before we get into Ohio, I want to say if you think about think about it, and I talked about this a couple weeks ago, Gaza is a perfect case study. If you can go into the Middle East in one of the most contentious areas on the planet and you can level it and turn it into a technocracy, then you have a blueprint that you can apply anywhere. Uh this is one of the same reasons that one of the first ever CBDC pilots in the entire world was in Nigeria where less than half of the population

has internet access in Nigeria. I've talked to people in Nigeria. No one wanted it. It was pushed by the World Bank and the IMF. And then when I dug into it further, the the real logic behind that is if you can figure out how to get populations with limited internet access on this, then that's going to allow you to roll it out. That's data that you can use for rural areas. So, just a couple of stats about Ohio. Uh, it ranks fourth nationally in data center concentration. So, I I had no idea, and we'll go into the details of this, but 193 facilities in counting. Columbus was the 2016 Smart City Challenge winner.

Uh $140 million to eliminate private cars. Jobs, Ohio, first state to privatize economic development except from all public records. There's a town called New Albany, and we'll get into more of the details on this, went from 1,500 to 11,000 residents. It's America's first corporate designed town. And and Craig knows this well. And it's got strategic geography. It's in the middle of the country. Has water access, cheap power, and business friendly politicians. Well, I would say public private partnership friendly politicians. Um but uh but you know now I want to get into um you know I'm going to bring in Craig

because this is where where where Craig shines. Uh you know he he brought this to my attention. Do you want to start with at I guess at the beginning here because we're going to go back again if you've read Whitney Webb's uh article or watch any of her interviews. This this is going back this is much more foundational. And I'd never heard of this guy until Craig mentioned it months and months ago. >> You want to start in with Mac? Yeah. Yeah. So, one of the things is uh another reason for Ohio being a you know a place to start is when you when you study like marketing around the country and essentially probably even ultimately around the world and you're pushing

products. Ohio is one of those um test states where they like to put things in there and see how the how the because see how the market responds in Columbus and then if it responds well then they also push it out. So there's kind of that tendency already, Erin. You know, where the Midwest is just sort of, you know, it's kind of like you said, if you can do it in Gaza, you can do it anywhere. And it's the same kind of a thing in Ohio, I think, where, you know, it's a good test market. It's middle America, you know, it's not flashy, you know, it's not the East Coast, it's not the West Coast, you know, it's not an innovator, but it is but it is important. And so, and that's kind of

where we're at, you know, on this. The other thing I wanted to throw out there too is that you know I've been you know as you bring up the technocracy and you know the start in 1932 the thing that always runs through my head is how do they keep something like this going you know for a hundred years like how like you said it's amazing that they came up with that stuff you know you know the you know and even the energy that's one of the things you kind of left out as one of the innovative things I mean the energy is becoming big in Ohio as well with American electric power and these small modular reactors if anyone's been paying attention to the news they've

been talking about you locating some of these small modular reactors. I have some friends that work for American Electric Power and they're involved in the real estate side and they're doing acquisitions already to buy and buy the land and create whatever legislation needs to occur to locate some of these small modular reactors. And the CEO of A told them, he said, "Before I leave this post, we're going to have small modular reactors." So, they're very, very focused on this. So, there's things we don't know. there's things that are going on behind the scenes that we don't know. All we do is we get little dots and we have to connect them, right? So, those are hopefully some of the dots I

can bring tonight and you know is to like um you know uh you know the power side of this and that's what we're going to get into with Max Fischer a little bit and the most important thing I want to bring up with Max Fischer is you know how does this stuff go from you know we're going to talk about Max Fischer and then how that eases into uh Les Wexner and then how that connection's made with Jeffrey Epstein and then how Epstein and and you know all these guys kind roll over into Peter Teal and how that stuff rolls over to JD Vance and Rebecca Swami and and Palmer Lucky who's at Anderil now. So it's just kind of this evolution and how does this stuff transfer through generations, right?

Well, if you only have two points, if you only have Wexner and Epstein and you only have what's going on today, then it's hard to connect this. But as soon as you add a guy like Max Fischer into the equation, you now have three points to connect and you can say, "Wait a minute, there's something more going on here." Right? there's a transfer of intelligence, power, control, money, influence, all these things that are going on. And that's exactly what Max Fischer is, right? So, Max Fischer um and I don't know if you have any of those photos up that all up ready to go, Aaron, but what I'll do is I'll go through this and if you have any of those, if you want to get those ready,

we can kind of it doesn't really matter the order. >> I don't have the photos. I mean, I can get the photos, but you can also share the photos if you want on your end. Um, let me >> Oh, I don't know if I have them on this on this machine. >> Uh, all right. Let me um Is there any way you can display those? It's no rush. We can come back to it, too. If if >> let me uh let me see how I do this. >> I'll just I'll just keep going and we'll see kind of what you what you can figure out there. Okay. So, Max Fischer. All right. This guy was born in 1908 in Pennsylvania. Parents were Russian Jews. He grew up in Salem, Ohio. And he got

some help building a oil company that be got became pretty big, right? It was called Aurora Oil. And um and it it was funded o officially it was funded by a guy named Henry Wanganger. Okay. Okay. And this was after Max Fischer's father didn't want to invest in this company, right? And so what they did is they were it was um it was a big oil operation that turned into before Speedway, it was called Speedway 79, I think is what it turned into. But ultimately he grew this into one of the largest independent oil companies in the Midwest. and he m Aurora this oil company that Max Fischer assembled was

ultimately sold to Ohio Oil in 1959 and then it became Marathon Petroleum. So these are names you might know Speedway Marathon Petroleum but essentially he was at the the the beginning of all that stuff. Okay. Now Henry Wanganger was the official guy that helped him fund this but there's rumors right and from some good researchers that it was actually someone in the Ford family or a Ford related entity. Okay. And that'll come back because we've got these characters that tie together with this corportocracy and and hopefully we'll be able to really put this together for you guys. Okay. So, he then went on to become a giant in the Jewish community. Okay. He co-ounded

the mega group with his protege less Wexner. Okay. And they were they were powerful um f and Max Fischer was really ultimately for for 10 administrations. I think it was 10 administrations I think it was um he advised multitudes of presidents I think all the way from Eisenhower into um George W. Bush. Okay. So he's this quiet guy that no one's really heard the name of, but he was exerting influence for probably 50 to probably I mean almost well I would say a good 40 years anyway. 40 to 50 years. Okay. And he was an adviser to 10 administrations, right? And um including big ones were Nixon, Ford, Reagan. He tended to lean more toward

the Republican side of things. And he was so big in the oil industry and everything else that when he passed away, George W. Bush named R route 24 the Max Fischer memorial highway or something like that all the way from Menturn Colorado to into right around Detroit Michigan. Okay. So he was heavily heavily involved in USIsrael affairs and in the Middle East right he advised US presidents and Israel prime ministers and one of the big ones you know that you may have heard recently you know because we get the 12-day war in you know in Iran and stuff like that. Well, he advised over this six- day war, okay, in Israel. And that was one of the the big ones. If anyone had heard his

name, that's probably where you heard it. Then we get this guy, then we get Max Fischer kind of teams up with as he's becoming this big oil tycoon, okay? And he's sort of getting out of that and he's getting more into the political influence side of things, mostly between the US and the Middle East. He he gets to be good buddies with uh Ford. I think it's uh this Henry Ford II, right? And a guy named Jack Bugus. Okay. And this where we get into a little bit of political ties here. This is like during the Kennedy administration, right? Because Jack Bugus and and McNamera were the two guys that were kind of vying for the same position. Bugus also had FBI ties. Okay? So he also was in slated to

potentially run the FBI. Instead, he went and he worked for Ford. Okay. And he made a fortune, right? So how does a guy in charge of security for Ford become incredibly wealthy? If you remember the camel commercials, the tobacco commercials, right? Where the guy's riding on the horse out on that ranch? That's Jack Bugus's private ranch, right? That was his ranch. It was like the largest non uh commercial, you know, no had no working bridges or anything. I mean, it was literally all horseback and everything, but he had this massive ranch, kind of like a Ted Turner type of guy, right? Massive amount of land. And so, he made a fortune doing that. And you have to

wonder, it's very questionable how how do they do this, right? How does someone like that head of security for Ford become so wealthy? Well, all of a sudden, you start wondering, well, how does Epstein get so wealthy? How does a guy named Wexter get so wealthy? Well, because they're in the system, right? They get in the system. And this is that thing, right? If we can if we can make a case that Max Fiser was an important power player, you know, not only as a a businessman in the oil industry, sold his company to, you know, Marathon to Ohio Oil, which became Marathon Petroleum, which then he spent, you know, I don't know, five, four to five decades influencing things between the Middle

East and the US. Had an oil background. Makes sense with Saudi Arabia. And when we start to show some of these slides, if we can do that, we'll see that he also had involvement in um intelligence, but also in defense systems like Awax airplanes. When Awax airplanes were big, they were selling this stuff to the Saudis, but they were delaying it, right? So that we had preferential um or someone did, someone had preferential um uh information from these Awax airplanes, okay? Or those are the ones that fly around with the big disc on the top, right? That can survey a lot of stuff. They were big. But I think they I doubt they use that stuff anymore. They don't I don't think

they have Awax airplanes anymore, do they? I don't I haven't seen >> they were big for about a couple. They're in the process of being decommissioned, but we do have some. >> Yeah. Okay. Okay. Um and so the um so you have to wonder, was this Bugus some kind of an operative? Right. Was Max Fischer some kind of an operative? All right. And then we say then we start to see Max Fischer and Les Wexner. So Les Wexner was a guy who came about >> Here we go. We've got we've got some pictures. I can load them up one at a time. >> Yeah. Let's go through these. So on the right there, there's Max Fischer. And I'm assuming that's his wife on the other side of George of Old Man Bush.

Okay. And here it says a quote. I don't know who this quote is, but it says, "Few people in America have played a larger role in business, world politics, and community service than Max Fischer." Okay. There's one of them. I don't know if you can just Can you kind of scroll through some of those, Aaron, or they >> I I'm I'm going to load them up one at a time. So, >> okay, >> there we go. >> Okay, so here he is negotiating a big deal. Now, this is with Frank Kellogg of the US State Department. Okay, so again, major player in there. There's a couple characters in here that we don't really need to get in to, but this Dubinsky and this Gotautle hammer. Um, but major player in the State

Department, right? always always there, always in the scene. You can see him off to the right kind of standing there. He's not the guy at the table signing stuff, but he's one of the influencers that's always there behind these administrations. Okay, here he is with Henry Ford II presenting a check to Max Fischer in the United Jewish Appeal. So again, you know, strong in the Jewish community, but um but this shows, you know, this Henry Ford, Henry Ford, Jack Bugus, and Max Fischer were very, very tight, right? Basically, the three amigos, we keep rolling. If you want to just

keep flying through those as fast as you can, Aaron. And I'm just trying to make a case for this guy was a important player. Now, he's also This shows you the creation of the Rand Corporation. For anybody who's kind of followed this, the Rand Corporation, you know, you could spend a you could spend an hour on this, but Henry Ford's part of this Rand Corporation and there's ties above that on the right hand side. You can see Roger McNamera. Okay, Roger McNamera and Jack Bugus. Okay, um were were basically vying for similar positions in the administration. Again, intelligence assets. Both of them kind of intelligence assets. And again, this was under the Kennedy era. We can probably

go to the next one, Erin, but this will tie a little bit into the technology like we're seeing now in Ohio with um with the military base. Okay, here's some of the rand corporation. So, here are some of the names you know Henry Ford II. Um there's Max Fischer up at the top. You get Donald Rumsfeld in there, Henry Kissinger. Um Slesinger, James Rodney Slesinger, and Horus Gayther Jr. Okay. And then you get Ford Foundation. So these were the other things like Erin's talked about, you know, you get these foundations, ways to move money around through different things. Ford Foundation, Rand Corporation, and then this MITER probably roll on from that one too if you want.

Okay. Um, so here he is sitting there with Gerald Ford, Secretary of State Henry Kissinger and Rumsfeld to convey his concern about the reassessment of US policy toward Israel. Fischer had recently returned from a visit to Isra Israel and had met with Prime Minister Yetac rub in. Yeah. So he was I can't remember when he was there. That was probably what 70s I would say. I think that's about when it was that would fit with Ford. >> Yep. That's about right. And then here here's the beauty the big beauty. >> Yeah. So here he is with Kissinger. Tumax Fisher with best wishes. Henry Kissinger.

This guy was a major power player. >> Okay. Are we good there? >> We're good there. Yep. >> Okay. >> All right. If you you are ready to move on from >> one of the things I wanted to do is >> um Well, can we just connect a few things? I just want to do the connection here real quickly on this. So, um on the next Yeah, the next slide. You can go to the next one. Yep. I think it's the next one. >> There you go. >> Yeah. Perfect. Okay. So, so um Max Fischer had played football at Ohio State. Uh went to Ohio State. Um and his name is on the Ohio State School of

Business. His nephew, right, who owns the Miami Dolphins, his name is on the Michigan School of Business, right? University of Michigan. So for those of you who know there's a rivalry between Ohio State and Michigan. So here you have, you know, uncle and nephew, right, funding both business schools. And not only that, it was actually less Wexnermer that recommended Fiser fund the school of business or so it goes. At least that's what it says, you know, in the and everything on all the you know how this business school was founded. Now why that matters is because Wexner has his name on all over everything at Ohio State University. Okay? Okay. So, an Ohio State University

is probably the center figure of central Ohio. You know, obviously people know it for for its sports and things like that, but it's just a huge institution. Sits pretty much in the center of the downtown area. And they Wexner has his name on the medical center, Wexner Med Wexner Center for Arts. And every almost every corner in central Ohio that you drive on when there's like a little, you know, um, you know, a little dock in the box on the corner, you know, like little um, you know, local what do they call those things, Aaron? The little where you go into the little ERS, the little local emergency rooms. >> Yep. Yeah, I know what you're talking >> almost all of them have. It says, it

says Wexner Medical Center. So, it has his name everywhere, right? So, this guy's name is everywhere in central Ohio. Okay. Now, how did these guys get to know each other? Well, um the it was probably on a deal at least at least this is as far back as you know might go further back than this, but 1983 they were involved together on the purchase of Sues, okay, the auction firm. And it involved Alfred Talman, Milton Petri, Henry Ford II, Les Wexner, and Max Fischer. Okay. And the and so the the question is I think when when Max Fisher left when he sold his company, I think he sold it for maybe 50

million and he ended up dying with almost a billion. So he was obviously making money after that through investments. Okay. So he was definitely in the he was connected and you know for night for 2000 that was I mean that was pretty significant for probably I think he died in 2006 or something like that. So that was pretty significant amount of money at that point. Now if we go to Wexner, Wexner's claimed many many times that ma that that Max Fischer was his that's where he learned you know so much right that's what he claims all the time Max Fischer was his you know mentor and so who so who's Wexner now right just a quick little reflection on Wexner he learned

his parents were in the merchandise business had a little small mom and pop merchandise um uh text uh fabric and textile some kind of I think women's clothing and um and he worked for them for 12 years. Then Wexner went on to start the Limited in 1963. Okay. And again, this little suburb in central Ohio with a $5,000 loan or so it goes, right? And then by n within six months, he opened up a second store and then by 1976 he had a hundred stores opened up. Okay? He took the company public in 1969 on the New York Stock Exchange. And but here's where it gets important is that when Wexner, and we're going to get into this with New Albany, um I have some inside information on this because

I knew people who were involved um you know doing stock um seats on the stock exchange and on the New York Stock Exchange, but also in the bond market. And they were asked by Wexner to float bonds for them, you know, to grow the limited and other things. And they turned it down. And so the question is how did Les Wexner get so much funding in a relatively quick period of time? I mean, he seemed to get access to the capital. And not only that, once he actually took the Limited, which was the company that really gave him his, you know, you know, at least that's the the the centerpiece for his empire was the Limited and all of the other limited brand stores like Victoria Secrets and

all the other ones that he that he aggregated onto that was the um the uh the real once he once he got a big balance sheet with the limited, he used that to leverage to buy the land for in New Albany for this all the stuff that we're going to get into. So, we've got Max Fischer, the mentor for Lesie Wexner, Wexner in the, you know, in the fashion um, you know, business builds this empire, the limited, and offshoots from that so many different things, right? the Southern Air Transport, you know, New Albany Corporation, banking situations, Epstein, all this stuff that starts to

get connected to this guy and the fact that he could use the limited balance sheet, right, to actually buy a lot of this land. And that was a big deal at the time because people were like, how's he doing this? How is he actually using the balance sheet of the limited, which is a publicly traded company, to buy this land for more of a private deal? And this is kind of what Aaron alluded to at the beginning is the mystery part of it, right? Right. The hidden the hidden money behind it. >> Yep. And I actually this is a point at least that I have here uh maybe to to start introducing the mega group. >> Yeah. And so in this mega group we have a whole um swath of individuals and we

have um the Bronman family which is Serbs. Um, we have uh Stephen Spielberg, right, the movie maker. We have Michael Steinhart, which was one of the original major hedge fund players out there. Um, we have a couple investment banking interests. We have the Louderder family, SD Louder, and we have Ron Louderder, which you know, I think we mentioned this in a prior show when we were doing when we were working together on another topic, Aaron, was um Kevin Worsh is the son-in-law of Ron Lauder, who is on this mega group. Okay. And so the mega group was formed by Les Waxner and Max Fischer and I think Bronman, right? The Bronman's had an interest in forming this. And what it was, I mean, on the

surface, what it is is it's a, you know, an a place for the Jewish business leaders, right? To come together and um and you know, on the surface, right, if if you think everything's above board, it makes sense, right? you know, bunch of business leaders get together, they sit on each other's boards, they share information, right? They leverage contacts, you know, it's a networking thing, but it seems to be that it was much it wasn't that above board because it w it went it was formed in 1991 and it wasn't really exposed until 1998 based off of a Wall Street Journal article. Now, I don't know what drove that Wall Street Journal article. I don't know if they wanted to be found

out and be exposed or if it just got exposed. I don't know how that came about, but it was basically a seven-year window of time where it was it was one of these, you know, under the um uh secret society type of, you know, at least that's the persona that it takes on now. Kind of the secret society thing. But again, it was primarily Max Fischer, Les Wexner, and then Bronman family with interest in that. And we've I think we've talked about that a little bit too, Aaron, where the Bronman family and the serums, I mean, there's definitely some pretty shady stuff that's gone on there, too. Um I don't know if you want to get into that tonight. >> Well, yeah, you have Nexium. I mean, you

know, again, this is an introductory conversation to this because as we've discussed, this could go in a variety of different directions, but I think the important part to understand that this was a a group of 20 only Jewish billionaires that met with the twice a year with the explicit purpose of coordinating political donations, policy, influence, and relations with Israel. I mean, this this is what it was formed to do. So, um, so I mean this isn't, you know, an anti-Jewish thing. This is a people like to talk about who are the different pockets of of power. Well, this is 20 billionaires with an explicit purpose meeting twice a year. Now, I don't know how much we want to

get into, you know, anything around anything that you might have learned about what it is that they meet and discuss, whether that's appropriate here now or not. Yeah, I can I can bring up one thing because I think this is an attention grabber, but the um but again, I can't disclose the contact how I know this or why, but you know, for me anyway, you know, for what it's worth, it's a very trusted resource. I have no reason to believe that this isn't 100% true. Um but they uh a topic of discussion at least once, if not more than once, was calling the herd, right? That was literally one of the topics of conversation, you know, is they were getting together to call the herd. So

you you wonder, you know, your mind wonders, well, what does that mean? Did that mean they have like interest in um you know, some sort of anything to do with um you know, um you know, COVID? I mean, you know, your mind wonders like what does that mean? How do they perform calling a herd? Is it just is it you know again is it is it bad nutrition? Is it lack of knowledge? Is it you know is it something that's happening in the water? Is it something that's I mean I don't know what that would mean what that would constitute calling the herd. But that was one of the topics of discussion for this small group was calling the herd. And so I really can't go into how I know that or

why because I promise not to disclose that. But you know that is that it was a topic of discussion at least one time if not more than once. >> So this is important for setting the so the so the groundwork here is you have you know Fiser who was wexner's mentor. These guys formed this uh uh mega group and uh that that is working on shaping very specific policy influencing policy uh with direct ties uh to Israel. And then um and the important key part here is right at around this time um Wexner brings in somebody to manage all of his money and that man is Jeffrey Epstein. And in fact in 1989 just two years

before Megroup was founded Les Wexner gave Jeffrey Epstein full power of attorney over his entire financial empire. And actually, prior to the Epstein files being leaked, all that was known, uh, Wes Wexner was Epstein's only known client. We now know that the client list includes the Rothschilds and and some others, right? It's not just Wexner, but so but in in in a way um all of a sudden uh Epstein finds himself managing money for the guy that's the co-founder and the most influential person as part of this 20 uh Jewish billionaire group, the mega uh mega

group. So I think that's kind of an important way to set this the stage here. >> Yeah, absolutely. And yeah, and there we and there we have it. That that is kind of the next the next slide on this. Um, you know, I the information that I have on this. So, in ' 89, uh, Wexner gave again Epstein full power of attorney and then gave Epstein a $77 million townhouse in Manhattan, the largest private residence in the city. So, I don't know if people are aware of the fact that that was actually um a gift, a $77 million gift from Wexner to Epstein. And

um this is 9 East 71st Street, which by the way is uh one house over from uh Howard Lutnik, who's at 11 East 71st Street. So, you know, interesting. and Lutnik went through the exact same trust. We'll get maybe we'll get into that a little bit with Jack Kesler and some of this other stuff that it went through the exact same trust that Epstein got it from too. So So it went through the same channels. Let got his property through the same and I think his was also what $10 or something wasn't it Aaron Lutnick got his for $10 and I think Epstein got his for like $10. >> It was >> and it went through the same channels through the same trust and everything and it it ties back to to Wexner.

Yep. Um, and this this will play in later. So, I I guess Epstein was the co-president of the new Albany company, which is uh an important thing that we will talk about that really leads into technocracy and a lot of things that are going on now with data centers. But the new Alb company which was a master planning community and Epstein was managing Wexner's $1 billion plus fortune that include included private jets and a massive massive real estate empire. So, um, in 2019 when, uh, Epstein was arrested, uh, Wexner claimed at that time that Epstein misappropriated funds, but never sued.

I mean, again, think about this for a second. Guy comes out of nowhere given full power of attorney to manage all of his money. And then when he was arrested, not the first time, apparently when when Epstein was arrested the first time, that was okay. when he was convicted as being a uh you know convicted of his his sex crimes back in the day that that didn't change his relationship with Wexner and then when he was arrested the second time um even only at that point he said well the funds were misappropriated but never sued. So, you know, trying to understand what that's all about is still something we don't have a firm handle on, but but how you end up managing all of that money right at the

center of all of this um with no repercussions even after conviction is something that should be should be raising some eyebrows, I think. >> Yeah. Well, and again, just let me reflect on that. you know where we're going to get into tonight with the new cast of characters that seem to be taking over taking the baton. You know, it seems to me if we got we have these three points. We have Max Fischer, right? Somehow he gets the baton potentially funded by Ford, okay? Someone in the Ford family, some some Ford relationship, even though on the surface it shows up as Henry Wanganger, right? Then he works with Wexner, right? The baton gets handed to Wexner Epstein.

Now the baton's getting handed to this next group in this that we're going to get into that's that's really driving things. I I don't know if it's we could say it's a continuation, right? >> This is a continuation of events. >> Yeah, it is. >> Yep. It's a continuation of events, a continuation of relationships. I mean, you're you're watching the the funding uh handed down and um and you know, now is probably a good good time at the intersection of this to talk about Robert Maxwell um Robert Maxwell's Glain Maxwell's father and you know people have this guy's been involved in everything. I mean he's the reason that you know we have peer-reviewed research

that people have to pay for. um and he's been involved in any of a number of deals and it's been uh well actually even the Epstein files suggested directly that he was uh killed by MSAD but he was a MSAD agent so he basically ripped off MSAD and then was was killed for it. Robert Maxwell was, but he did something that was really interesting and and we could do a whole separate segment on this, but he acquired a company called Information on Demand and in 1982. And this information on demand company had access to 250 US databases. And so he begins selling uh this promise software P R O M I S with back doors to

Sandia National Labs Los Alamos which is America's nuclear weapons facility. Uh the FBI investigates the DOJ uh halts it and then you know Maxwell drowns on his yacht in 1991 and his daughters carry on the mission. But there's a whole interesting, you know, story about what the back doors were in this software that we could go into um in a major way. But I mean, in essence, massive capacity for for blackmail uh at the level of the entire government. I mean, we're talking about uh you know, national security secrets. We're also talking about access to uh databases of legal cases and uh confidential informants. I mean it it this promise

software thing is absolutely massive. And so kind of you know more of the background is Maxwell was also a British media baron. Uh he was affiliated with both Czech Intelligence and MSAD and um you know just again he was even involved with uh Tetris the video game Tetris and just a whole variety of things. It's it's actually baffling. I've watched several documentaries on this guy and you know once again one of these things where his tentacles are in absolutely everything but but one of the things that's key to it is cornering the information on uh or corning the market on information uh implementing back doors and using blackmail. That is effectively

uh what what he's all about. And his daughters were involved. I don't know. Oh, that's interesting. I guess that slide didn't uh didn't come in, but you have um Christine Maxwell, one of his daughters, who built Chiliad, which is the back end of the FBI's investigative data warehouse, which contains 587 million documents. You have his other daughter, Isabelle Maxwell, who built CompTouch, which is an Israeli company staffed by IDF veterans that Bill Gates invested $20 million in. So, so the you know the Maxwell influence didn't die when Robert died. It has actually continued on uh through all of his daughters in amazing

ways that actually touch wide varieties of the government governments and uh technology and uh economies. So you have um so all of that. So the basically the Maxwell surveillance infrastructure needed funding and political protection and so this is where you know the PayPal mafia gets involved. This is where we get into kind of our our modernday uh discussion. So I don't know how we want to how we want to do this but um you know again >> yeah go ahead. >> Can I add one thing there? So part of that part of that um promise uh or was it the uh no it was the promise software I believe right that was that had the backdoor surveillance Israeli um

software and it was apparently it infiltrated two nuclear reactors in New Mexico. Did you this register with your research Aaron? >> Yep. Yep. And what's weird about it is Galileain somehow again one of Maxwell's other daughters right obviously tied to Jeffrey Epstein convinced them to put the Zoro ranch together or purchase it and it essentially I've at least I don't know I haven't looked at the complete geographics but someone said it sits dead center between these two nuclear reactors that where this promise software was now this could just be you know but but there's a potential connection to Epstein back to Maxwell back to this software back to everything else Right. Again, could be

coincidental, but maybe there's some kind of a strange connection there. >> Yeah. No, I mean, it's a, you know, what a coincidence that Epstein finds himself managing Wexner's money right at the center of the mega group and then all of, you know, his his girlfriend and partners uh the whole family is all tied into uh all of this all these information systems and uh blackmail. I mean, it's you know, what are the odds? Do you think they they weren't uh weren't discussing this or leveraging this? Um you know there's a whole again there's so much to explore here. It's actually somewhat difficult to to put all these pieces together but but again understand this is all going on out of

Ohio. So this this the mega group all of this is is out of of Ohio and then Epstein is you know now this is where he's getting his money and um and his influence is through u less Wexner. Now we're going to kind of dovetail some stories here which is uh but related to Ohio is you have JD Vance. Now, we've talked about JD Vance and Peter Teal many times on this show, but I I want to remind everyone that you you basically have uh JD Vance came from nowhere and you know, at least the his official story is that you know, he saw Peter Teal uh speak at a Yale law school event

or whatever and and um they ended up you know, connecting up there and then all of a sudden JD Vance starts working for Peter Teal. um and then ends up getting jobs that were facilitated by Peter Teal, including one as the COO of a biotech company for which he had zero background and for which you know the evidence suggests he wasn't actually doing any work. He was out promoting a book about himself that had been written by somebody else. And so basically JD Vance's entire career has been scripted. He is an absolute puppet of Peter Teal. And uh in fact he was in he was in Silicon Valley for a while and then had to kind of rehab his positions because the stuff that he was working on was not

compatible with being able to win a Senate seat in Ohio. So I mean JD Vance has changed his name twice kind of then then re you know rehabs all of his political positions comes back to Ohio to run for US Senate where uh Peter Teal gives funds him to the tune of $15 million which is just a massive investment for a single Senate race. So, Peter Teal, as we've discussed, is part of the PayPal mafia, um, was one of the founders there. Obviously, he's involved with Facebook. He's involved with countless uh other initiatives as well as being the co-founder of Palunteer. Um, but beyond that, uh, from an ideological perspective, Peter Teal has

been heavily influenced by Curtis Jarvin, who I've stated many times is the, um, you've all know Harrari of the right. So, he pushes a lot of messaging that sounds libertarian, but at the end when you dig through it, it's yes, let's replace government. Let's get rid of all these bureaucrats, but then the punchline is and then replace it with AI. So, for instance, the news that Palunteer, Peter Tier, Palanteer is taking over uh the IRS and IRS audits was the plan all along. And I, you know, I've been pounding the my the table on this the entire time. So, all of these people were talking about how we were going to reduce the size of government. And, you know, again, are you better off with,

you know, a 75 millionword tax code? Would you rather have audits done by AI through Palunteer or a bunch of inefficient bureaucrats? This is essentially exactly what the plan was the entire time. The role of government is going to dramatically increase. And Curtis Yarvin has been pushing this ideology. The ideology is that democracy is bad. Now, of course, we don't actually have a democracy, so he's setting up a false argument, but that we need to vest more power in the executive branch. and then got everybody riled up about the idea of reducing government employees. But then what's happening is what you end up with is a an executive branch with more power and an a

technocratic AI system, which is exactly what he's pushing. Yarvin's been pushing a monarchy. And so so Peter Teal has stated that he was influenced uh heavily and changed his position on government and democracy uh and the works because of of Curtis Yarvin. This is what is influencing Teal and Teal is controlling Vance. As I said, Vance is is literally a puppet for Peter Teal. All of the investments, his entire history, his positions are crafted by Teal. And Teal is the one who introduced JD Vance to Trump. Trump didn't know him prior to this. And then the ultimate decision to pick Vance happened at a Silicon Valley dinner uh and major fundraisers. So you need to

understand the implications of what we're talking about here tonight at the federal level influencing JD Vance. But then now you can also go back and look at what's gone on in Ohio and what continues to go on in Ohio through JD Vance and through Peter Teal because Peter Teal is investing heavily in Ohio in a number of different projects as by the way is JD Vance. Now I brought this up when we talked about the board of peace. It turns out there's no legal prohibition for a vice president to accept money from from outside sources. Dick Cheney made a million dollars a year from Hallebertton while he was in office and people were outraged about it, but it's not technically illegal.

And JD Vance currently actively has a number of investments in companies that are uh benefiting not only from the technocratic agenda but also from uh you know defense and the wars that we are waging. So, understand that that that's going on. And I suspect that's by design. I mean, I guarantee you Teal's a chess player and he's aware of the fact that, hey, if I put this guy in here, he's not even subject to the same uh scrutiny that the president is. Not Not that Trump is is, you know, acting in in kind of good faith with respect to not monetizing the position. That's a another topic for another day. But this is so this is essentially what's going on. So, so that

you know the importance of Ohio and all of this was leveraged for the VP position and then everything else we're going to talk about tonight uh from a technocrat perspective stems from from all of this. So, you know, we can now connect the threads Max Fischer in the 1950s in Ohio to JD Vance to the White House and and kind of start putting together the the whole network. I don't know if how uh can you see that? Yeah, you should be able to see that fairly well. Yep, I can see that pretty well. >> So, I'll I'll just say the high level and then we can dig into the details. So, it starts with Max Fischer. Max Fischer um mentoring Wexner uh co-founding the mega group. Uh then

you have uh Robert Maxwell involved and Epstein involved in managing uh Wexner's uh money and then all of the connections and all the various things that the Maxwell daughters uh are involved in. And then you have uh Peter Teal in here connected to u JD Vance that then uh for some reason I can't read the uh this got this thing in the way but um uh then that feeds into uh VC Ramaswami and and others. Now I you know I've talked about VC on this show before. I met with VC I spent time with VC. VC has read my book. We were talking about CBDC's and he's another one who who convinced a lot of people he was a libertarian.

In fact, he convinced a lot of the libertarians in New H. And I was like scratching my head. I was not a huge fan, by the way, of VC. The fact that he read my book was not is not an indication of the fact that I supported him. Um I, you know, I looked at his background and his ties and everything that he' done in big farm and everything else. And you know, we may get into that later as well, but this guy did not seem in any way, shape, or form like a libertarian. And it turns out, surprise, he's a technocrat. And he's tied all directly into this. Um, and he's now behind 10 points in the polls for governor, which uh, interestingly, may turn out to be a good thing. But, but

understand, you really makes you think, all right, well, what's go and when you see everything that's going on in Ohio, how much of this was contrived? You have JD Vance as VP grooming him to be president, putting pushing more power into the executive branch, bringing in AI under the guise of efficiency to roll out technocracy. And then you have as an idea to put VC in as governor in Ohio to help execute a kind of a technocracy plan in Ohio. Because if you hear everything about what VCA has been saying in Ohio, if you haven't tuned into him since the presidential race, he has been talking about exactly these things, putting in place, again, he he presents it as being this pro- industry,

pro jobs thing, but when you dig into it, it's just pure technocracy. >> Yep. Well, Ian, you know, Vivc his uh he went to school in Cincinnati and he was top of his class, I think, at St. Xavier down in Cincinnati. Um, you know, obviously went off to school very fishy how he made all of his money. I mean, he had almost no staff. Um, and yet he landed some big contracts. A lot of that stuff fed into, right, the, you know, the, uh, the co the, um, mRNA jab and so forth. And then obviously we have Vance, you know, who, you know, the whole hillbilly elegy, the, you know, the whole story, that whole thing. And then, you know, like you said, the $15 million backing by

Teal and it's clearly Ohio, right? I mean, there's clearly and and what's even funnier, Aaron, is as I was going to find a video, you know, as I was doing some research, sure enough, on YouTube comes up an ad Vivc Rama Swami and it was almost comical, you know, because you're like, you can't, you know, it's just they're coming hard, right? He's 10 behind 10 points behind in the polls, but that's nothing that they can't overcome or they haven't overcome before, you know? I mean that I wouldn't be surprised to see a massive amount of money come in and a massive push for this guy because they kind of need him, right? He's a part of the puzzle, you know? I mean, they need

someone they can control in the governor in the governor's spot for all these different components, right? The data centers, you know, Andril, the banking that's coming along with Rebore, you know, the the energy that's going on down on the river, right? the conversion over to nuclear again, you know, and so forth. I mean, and you see these nuclear players coming in hard. I don't know if you've been following the news, but they're coming in hard. I mean, they're they are they're coming in with force. So, they they kind of need him, and I wouldn't be surprised to see a major financial push behind him in the near future if it's not already there. >> Yeah, absolutely. And and again, this is

happening in in other states. Some of this is happening in New Hampshire, too. So part of this as we're describing this, there are things that are happening in parallel in New Hampshire that are being presented as big economic opportunities and I don't think people are examining uh the implications of how some of the stuff is getting funded because it's not it's not a you know pure free market type of situation. This is this is stuff that ends up being funded by taxpayers to the benefit of a small number of large technocratic corporations and it gets pitched as being about free markets. But in essence, it's subsidizing digital slavery in in many cases. Now, there

could be nuances to it. It doesn't have to be that way. It just so happens that every time it actually uh happens in reality, that's the way that it works. And so, so so we're going to start digging now into some of the specifics of the mechanics of what happens at the state level in Ohio. Starting with uh do you want to talk about this the uh this liquor tax how liquor tax works and jobs Ohio? >> That's something I actually haven't followed that much. I don't know if you have a little bit of background on that or not. I mean that's not something I've followed all that closely but >> All right. So yeah. So this so this is fascinating. There are a couple of

different um and again states have their different scams and different ways that they do things. lotteryies. Here in New Hampshire, we have state-run liquor stores and everything else, but in Ohio, there's $1.4 billion in liquor tax revenue uh expected to come in through 203, which flows to a private corporation that's exempt from all public record laws. So, Jobs Ohio controls Ohio's economic development. It hands out billions in incentives, and you can't see a single document. So this was something created in 2011 by John Kasich. So the first state to quote fully privatize economic development and it's funded by liquor tax revenue.

So, so again again you know talk is public private partnership but I don't know what you call liquor tax revenue going to a private corporation that doesn't have any reporting requirements that is then being used to u invest and and set incentives tax abatements and cut economic deals. Uh the board is comprised of private citizens. There are no elected officials. There's no accountability. And so the result of this is $2.5 billion in data center deals with no public oversight. So again, when somebody says, "Oh, well, you know, we have data centers coming." All right. Well, who's actually paying for that? What are the mechanics of this? And so this is this is one thing. So Jobs Ohio

handles the money. So I you know, I don't know if you you've how familiar you are with Jobs Ohio. >> Yeah. I mean, a little bit. you know, it's um you know, I know that it's um the uh well, like you said, I mean that the liquor, the tax revenues and so forth gets pushed through it, but the >> you know, it's um >> I mean, it's kind of a corporate welfare system, right, to some extent. And absolutely the >> you know and so like you said I mean they redirect public funds to u you know private companies with almost no oversight and the um the you know the I know that there were advisory ties with Kasich um and

you know I don't I mean I that's one thing I just haven't spent that much time with is on the jobs Ohio part of it. I the Do you have much more on that Aaron? Because I can go on about it, but it's not really >> No, no, I don't have a lot on that. This is just this is one piece of it. And so Jobs Ohio handles some of the the money and some of the incentives and then you move into tech technocratic control and now we move into Innovate Ohio. >> Yeah. >> So I don't know if you want do you want me to do you want to talk about Innovate Ohio or you want me to do kind of an overview? Yeah, just do an overview on that if you can. >> So, in 2019, uh, Mike Dwine, uh, governor signed an executive order

creating innovate Ohio. And the goal of this was a digital transformation of all state, uh, agencies, which includes a a mandatory Ohio ID or oid, OID, for every citizen. Um, and on the original board of that were a number of people including JD Vance. And so um so this was created again by executive order and uh the original board actually had three people uh KeithWami he's uh with Koula Koulsa Ventures who I'm very familiar with um out on the west coast. Their entire uh Venod Kla used to be a part of Kleiner Perkins which back in the day was like the premier venture capital

firm. and they invested in a whole bunch of uh early stage stuff in the 80s and 90s and then Koula went off and he is as liberal as it gets. In fact, most of their portfolio companies and their investments are designed for government contracts. This guy is about as far-left as it can get. And if you're talking about green energy projects and uh or whatever, this is what they're about. So, so this innovate Ohio board had that guy big lefty Bernie Mareno who's a player in blockchain and JD Vance and the goal was uh single sign on for every state interaction and complete digital track tracking. So, of course, you know, and how do they package it? How do they sell it as convenience?

So, I mean, you're seeing here, right, where JD Vance, you know, he was muted. He's always been like he was like a quiet I don't I don't think most people were probably aware that he was on that board right back uh seven years ago. Uh but he's been pushing technocracy subtly behind the scenes for a long time. And so so digital ID is individual track uh tracking but it doesn't stop there. They also needed citywide control. And this is where we get into uh the smart Columbus project. Yep. Well, and Ramaswami was on that board, too, right? >> I I don't I it didn't show that he was on that. He might have been, but my research just had those three guys.

>> I think joined that board as well. >> That was the original board. So, this been around for a long time, right? So, this was just the original board. So, just to be clear, JD Vance was involved from the very beginning of architecting that. And yeah, you very well may may be right. I actually do think VC was on that because I remember him getting some uh some flak for that and remembering him doing some mental gymnastics thing kind of like he did with the uh >> Soros thing. He wasn't originally on but he came on later. Yeah, I think he later joined that board. Yeah. >> Y >> and let me add to that too. You know this is connected to Naria Capital, right?

>> Yep. And Naria Capital is a teal, you know, Peter Teal funded $und00 million of funding that went into and essentially it was a to me here was my thought on it always this Naria Capital was a um you know mostly I don't know what percent teal funded it but it was definitely teal funded it. What it did is it gave JD Vance credibility as a venture capital player. The problem is I did some, you know, searching around in this Naria Capital. Um, it's just a front. Like it's it's literally a rental post office box, you know. I went to the building. You literally you could rent the place out for like a wedding or something like that, you know, and they had a couple

offices upstairs and it had a $100 million in assets in it at the time and there's nobody there, right? There's no secretary, there's no office, there's nothing. Now, in today's digital world, that's not that big of a deal. But again, this is, you know, JD Vance's connection to this to some extent with this Naria capital. And then so this links JD Vance, Peter Teal, right, back into this innovate Ohio to some degree. And ultimately these ecosystems tie back to Caner Fitzgerald as well, right? >> Yep. >> Um, >> yeah. from that this Kavame or how do how do we >> I think it's Kame >> Kav how do we pronounce his name >> I think it's

>> so then he founded this Kavame so he he founded this firm drive capital which received a lot of funding from Ohio State University okay so that connects us back to Ohio State and this raised concerns about again links back to Wexner right overlapping ties with him and not only Uh then we get into this you know this I think it was the Ohio high investment opportunities growth fund that was formed by this kavame right and it's essentially a sovereign wealth fund right we've talked about sovereign wealth funds in here right and it's a way to kind it's again it's a way to discreetly push money into different places you know because you don't really know how it how it functions you don't

know where it comes from but I think all these things are tied back to this you know innovate Ohio >> yep It's tied back to Innovate Ohio, Jobs Ohio, and then and then it expands from there. And the important thing to understand is that the groundwork is being laid through um through these government initiatives and then these guys come in behind the scenes and profit off of it personally through uh venture capital. And that's that's the real important thing to to understand. And I know there are some people I I I I have a suspicion. So, uh, it's been well documented that Peter Teal has more than one of these kind of secret society things. And I and I suspect that part of the gatherings that

have been going on are to design uh, infiltration at the state level. And I think it's happening uh, not only in Ohio, I think it's happening in New Hampshire. I think it's happening in a variety of places because we are seeing uh, the playbook from uh, by people that I know are connected to Peter Teal. And it's amazing the way that they they all describe it. They even start justifying, well, you know, passing regulations that you then benefit from, you know, that's not a that's not a bad thing. And they start actually trying to sell that and confuse that as being pro- capitalism, pro- capitalism and pro um liberty and libertarian. Again, to me, the worrying

part about this is that Peter Teal uh has gained a lot of credibility as being a libertarian, which I knew was gone in 2015. I had conversations with Jason Saens, who's the the creator of the Free State Project, and when we were looking at this then, you know, when he got behind Trump uh in 20 2015, you know, we knew something was was wrong. But I think some people haven't gotten a memo. So some people are looking at some of the investments that he made back in the day and things like seasteading and some of the comments that he's made. They're not looking at the influence that Curtis Yarvin has had and they're not looking at what he actually has done politically and

strategically the bets that he has placed uh particularly in the US Senate and in other areas and what those policies are. So so there's a there's a disconnect between his old branding and his actual body of work. uh and and what he's been doing. But again, to me, if you can't look at Palunteer doing a uh audits um recommen recommending audits to the IRS, if that isn't enough for you, then like I said, you're either a fed or you're from a libertarian perspective. So, uh but we now have Columbus. So, so, uh Wexner is is huge in Columbus, right? That's that's he he's based out well he's in a lot of places but he's uh he has a base of operations in Columbus too

right that's >> he has a he has a big estate into Albany yeah >> yep and so uh in 2016 Columbus wins the US Department of Transportation Smart City Challenge so $50 million in federal grants plus 90 million in matching funds So again, this is this is how this stuff this is how this stuff happens. Patrick Wood has discussed a lot about this about a lot of how, you know, zoning changes, a lot of things that are going on are being pushed outside of the the local boundaries and they're using grants and incentives and people just aren't paying attention to it. So what was the stated goal? Eliminate private vehicle ownership. This was literally the design. So they built a centralized

data platform for tracking all transportation. So I mean again this this by the way is a hallmark of technocracy going back to the 1930s. In the 1930s they were talking about electric cars in the future and about people not owning cars and doing ride sharing. So these are completely technocratic uh programs. They I mean they don't call them that but they are the essence they are the very essence of of technocracy. So so smart Columbus was the urban test. Um, but now we're going to get into uh, you know, New Albany, which is, this is just a fascinating uh, story here. Um, and I was not aware of of the extent of

this, but in uh, 1986, Les Waxner and Jack Kesler bought farmland east of Columbus. And I, you know, Craig, do you want to you want to jump in on this one? >> Yeah. So the um so let's just kind of bounce back and forth on this because I know you've got a lot on this too I think. Right. You got a lot on this as well. >> I've got some data on it as well. Yeah. >> Okay. So essentially, you know, they um the what we have is a lot of flow of funds, right? There's we can see I think what we're saying here is you know we've got this you know liquor tax we've got these different outside sources of funds

moving around through different things we've got these grants and things moving around right lots of money flowing in and somebody's directing traffic here right and so okay how who's directing traffic well if you look at what Wexner's influence over Ohio again he's got his name over you know all these medical buildings the Wexner med you know center for arts you know, um, all these different things, right? Um, and so he's able in the 1980s to to create a lot of influence in the sense that he's figured out and he has enough influence to say, okay, you know, here's our city. We have this, you know, here's our city. We have this outer belt. We bought we're going to buy

all this land up here in New Albany. We're going to use aggressive tactics to do that. Okay? aggressive land acquisition tact tactics and part of that requires Epstein. You know, Epste's a part of this and as they're putting this together, they need road access and they need different things. So, what does Wexner do? He goes to this he goes to the powers that be and he gets a road, you know, that runs right up into New Albany, right? So, it's so what does that do? It allows it to grow like Aaron said from 1100 people to, you know, 1500 people to 11,000, right? because now you have, you know, people willing to go there and it's a very high-end New Alb is a very high,

it's turned, again, you know, maybe we'll go back and backtrack into how it got developed, but where it's at now is and where it's been growing over the last 25 to 30 years is a very high-end um t city with, you know, properties that are, you know, any again for the Midwest, for some people who live on the coast, maybe this doesn't seem like a lot, but for the Midwest, you know, a home that's 750 to, you know, 2 or 3 million dollars. A pretty significant home in the Midwest. And you get a lot of those up there, right? And it's all it's, you know, it's a it looks really nice, right? You drive through there, it's all fences, horse fences, everything. And on the when you're drive

it, basically this road 161 goes um or is it 16? Anyway, the road that it goes north and south. And so off to the east is New Albany. And off to the west was a lot of farmland that was left wide open. And that's where we're seeing all these data centers, right? That's in the that's on the slide, right? We're starting to see all those things form up in there. And it's going fast. I mean, you know, a couple years ago it was literally all farmland and then all of a sudden it's you know, there's massive structures going up in that area. Um and so the um you know this again, how does all this stuff get funded, right? the Ohio Fund invests in these things, right? The Amazon data center

development, you know, that's a big one that's gone in up there, right? The the um I don't know. Do you want to add to that, Erin? Anything to that? >> So, if you look at So, this new Albany is a it's it's a company. It's a company town. The whole thing is a masterplanned community. And here's the funny thing about it is that Jeffrey Epstein was the co-president of it. So this thing was funded that started by Les Wexner and Jack Kesler. Jeffrey Epstein's the co-president and then the town grows from 1500 to 11,000 residents. And so now this company town hosts Amazon, Meta, Google, Microsoft, Ohio. It has 193 data centers mostly in this corridor. And so Epstein literally

designed this town where big tech now lives in the center of Ohio. So I don't think that people have have I haven't heard a lot of talk about the connection between Epstein and data centers and AI on this scale. So literally right in the middle of Ohio, right in the middle of this technocratic thing, Epstein was the the co-president of the thing funded by Les Wexner. So to me that's just uh it's mindboggling and um you know I want to get some more videos and uh pictures of of of all the data centers here but that is just crazy. Well, and I think it really, you know, what it what it really does for me anyway is it connects the dots from the, you know, again, Fiser through

central Ohio, you know, through Wex through Wexner, through Epstein, and now this, you know, where we're going with it now, right? you know, these data centers, which is where we're, you know, we're going into the third, you know, data point here, which is the data centers and the and again the defense industry, you know, which we'll talk about here in a little bit with Andreil. But you can see that connection taking place, right? That transition if you hopefully we're hopefully we're doing a good enough job here of explaining, you know, this connection and this this Jack Kesler was an interesting character, right? This was back to bank one. Remember, you know, in the

a lot of this goes to Aaron, like a lot of the development on Epstein Island came through this organization too, right? They were a part of developing that. So, um, you know, Kesler was associated with bank one, associated with different banking operations. So again, banking, you know, we're going to see that continue to pop up with this aribore, but the banking component to this. And then you think about the connection with bank one gets acquired at some point. I forget exactly when it occurred, but it gets acquired by by JP Morgan. Same kind of a situation. So it's a lot of dirty banking going on here for sure. Right. And it's happening right here. And like you said, I think

your first slide was mysterious money moving about something like that, right? That's what this feels like to me in many in all different ways is just, you know, either taxpayer money or outside investment money all going in and developing this this, you know, this city like you said, you know, um master plan city with um you know, with massive amount of investment going into it. And and the other part of it too is the control factor. I mean who's in control of this at this point, right? I mean as this thing gets bigger and bigger bigger is it I mean does who can the can let's say you get Vivc Ramaswami in there as governor? I mean he oversees it but is it sort of just operate on its own? Is

it sort of its own little city you know that can't be stopped because I mean you have to think about that. What does it lead to? Who controls this? Who can stop it? >> Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean nobody can stop it again. And remember what you have to understand is that the ideology of technocracy is uh uh you know Curtis Jarvin's talking about monarchies and CEOs and everything else but the whole concept behind this does not involve individual rights at all or property rights. So you have to understand the people that are doing this and implementing this, they don't care about the constitution. The vet goes around talking about the constitution. He goes around dressed up in a Texas cowboy hat

with a Texas flag and everything else. And he he goes all around all over the place. He's wellversed in the Constitution. Um but he's not particularly interested in actually uh you know enforcing it or pushing it. It's a great kind of great cover story. Uh and in the end these guys believe that uh you know there should be philosopher kings and they believe they should be managing all of these resources. And so they're using a lot of propaganda uh to position this, even fooling libertarians into thinking uh that they're about liberty and about restoring the constitution. And they're not doing that. They're implementing things like, you know, these cities and

then allocating funds in a way because again, this isn't free market to expand a little bit on this. So we have New Alb, which is this uh corporate town, but then the data centers that are going into the town. All right, how are those getting funded? And again, this is where I want to make the very clear distinction that this isn't about being anti-technology or even anti-data center, but it's about who's funding it. Because you can go back to the 1980s and you can go back and I'm pretty sure I remember Milton Freriedman uh doing a a segment or two on free to choose about this that shows kind of what happens when you have uh government incentives. You have a situation where, you know, a

company will come in based on initial incentives and then when the incentives go away, they leave and then they you end up with Allentown, Pennsylvania. You end up with communities that are completely devastated because those artificial incentives uh that taxpayer payers pay for look great in the short term. They make the politician look great. they it makes it look like, you know, hey, look with these data centers. You have uh construction jobs where people are making $100,000 a year plus working on these construction jobs, but then when they get built uh and then the the you know, the incentives go away, uh the data centers move and then there's nothing left. There's a hollowedout

town, a husk of a town there. And in the case of what's going on in Ohio, again, Ohio's the fourth most data centers in America, 193 facilities. Intel alone got $2 billion in state incentives plus $650 million in 30-year tax breaks. So these facilities need 40 million gallons of water per day by 2030 versus 140 million gallons for 1.25 million central Ohio residents. So look at that when we're talking about almost a third of the entire water consumption for 1.25 million people uh is is is going to just

these AI facilities. By the way, this is becoming an issue already. There are big water shortages emerging in Nevada, big issues going on in Texas. This is a real thing. This isn't a people being worried about something that might happen in the future. This is going on actively right now. So, this is a a real problem. And again, this was all done with financial incentives. So, you have the the company that Epstein was the co-president of that Wex Wexner owns benefiting from this. They own all of the land. They bought the farmland, converted the farmland into these data centers, and the data centers are there because of these tax incentives. And these tax incentives are at the state

level pushed by JD Vance, pushed by, you know, all of these people from the top down to to benefit themselves and their friends. So, this is um clearly what's going on. And you're looking at uh in in Ohio uh 23.3% uh increase in electricity. It's the third word uh excuse me, the third worst nationally. All enabled by jobs Ohio deals with zero public transparency. So this is what's going on just with the data center side and as Craig said the data center side is just it's one piece of it. I mean this extends now it goes to defense, it goes to financial services. This is just one segment. So we're trying to give a high level

overview of these segments. But I mean we could you know do full episodes on digging into each one of these. We probably won't. I mean, you know, the problem with this is kind of to zoom out technocracies global, the technocratic, the technocrats behind the scenes and the multinational corporations that are pushing this are pulling the levers at the local, state, federal, and multinational level. They're pushing towards a global technocratic endstate. We're paying for it. That's that is the bottom line. So, we're going to drill into we're drilling into Ohio now, but just understand I I would like to see other people start to dig into their state because you're going to find this

and somewhere under this we're going to find these secret, you know, society meetings that uh Peter Teal has where he's actually recruiting and coordinating people to do this just as he's been recruiting US senators, you know, in Arizona and then JD Vance and there's a whole wide I could do a whole thing on his political contributions over time. Um, there's a there's a whole interconnected piece to it. I mean, again, they're smart. Teal's smart. These people are smart. They just don't care about individual rights. They don't care about the Constitution. And people need to understand that because they've wrapped themselves in the flag of libertarianism. >> Yep.

>> Well, the way that I equate this to some degree, you know, something that we've seen through time is, you know, you know, the football stadium, right? you know, a somebody has a franchise, they say, "Oh, we're going to move to this town, but you guys have to put together a football stadium for us, right?" So, essentially, you know, the the city gets together, they put together a football stadium or some sort of a stadium. The the residents end up paying the taxes on it, right? They float the bonds, the the local citizens are on the hook for it, and ultimately that that football team, that franchise could leave whenever they want, you know, and it's the same kind

of a thing. So, you really have no control. And the way they sell it to the people is well this is good for your community right this is good for your community to have this sports team here because you know it brings a lot of activity down here it brings commerce it brings you know the willingness to want to live in this city it brings other things and if you if you relate that back to these data centers you know it's that same kind of a thing it's like well what are we getting for this you know what who's is it so that we can get on our keyboard and look at chat GPT or something like look something up like we have to wonder what this is all leading Right, Erin?

It's like, okay, so this money's coming around from all these mysterious channels. It's getting funneled through these mysterious entities, okay? It's going into this mysterious city, right, that's got this mysterious background, you know, and all of a sudden these things are popping up and we have no idea how much electricity is being used. We're not being told, you know, it's not being put on a billboard, how much water is being used, it's not being put on a billboard. And the people are just subject to whatever's happening. And I think you're right. I think they go to these non um you know obvious places but you can't you can't help but draw the connection of JD Vance Vivbec Rama

Swami Ohio guys you know and then Epstein and Fiser and Wexner and all this stuff and you say and it's it really when I when I saw Whitney Webb's article and you sent that to me I was reading through that and it's really hard to believe that this was structured as far back as the 1980s and that they knew where they were going with this. Right. I don't think that this just sort of like, oh, here's an opportunity to let seize it. I think this was moving in a direction already back then. This wasn't just about building a nice little community called New Albany with beautiful homes and beautiful, you know, fences and horse farms and stuff like that. I think this was already something

that was laid out because we see the things Epstein was involved, right? He was involved in Bitcoin. He was involved in, you know, sending money to the MIT labs. He was involved in all these different things. So, you it's hard to say that this was just an opportunity that they've seized and that this wasn't some sort of an agenda that's been in place for a long period of time. >> No, I mean it is an agenda and again you know what the agenda is. The agenda is a global system backed by energy credits with a AI uh surveillance system and social credit scores. This I mean we this is known this is fully documented. This is a blueprint. This is written in the uh technocracy manuals. This then

was carried forward um by Brazinski and Rockefeller in with the formation of the trilateral commission which then pushed through to the UN and is integrated in with the WF and all these other things and by the way I have to point out Epstein co-president of this thing managing Wex Wexner's money uh was was also uh very close with and had as a mentor David Rockefeller. Epstein himself was part of the trilateral commission. Epstein was involved in the WEF. So, you know, I have been saying for 3 and a half, four years now, you know, there's this whole big question of, well, who controls things and everything else. And the way you find the answer to that out is by tracking

who they are. You know, we we know Patrick Wood has been tracking who's been in the trilateral commission. There are 400 plus people. Uh they're on rotating boards. You have the Club of Rome. You have the Bilderberg group. You have these groups, which by the way, Peter Teal and Alex Karp are part of the Bilderberg group. It's this isn't a mystery and it's not many people and no there's no I mean the fact that you know Les Waxner's Jewish Epstein's Jewish that doesn't when you look at the overall composition of WEF and these other things it's not a Jewish conspiracy this is just this is one part of it there are groups of people that happen to interlock with these uh

international organizations that push policy they push global policy just like the IEA pushes uh these climate lockdown things, right? I I put out a post on that with the 10 different things that they're suggesting, you know, based on odd or even license plate numbers. You should drive in, you should stay at home, so on and so forth, giving all of this guidance. It's an unelected group, but that sets policy for nations all over the world for things like this. They use these international organizations to set standards that then get adopted by government that they then benefit from that have nothing to do with national sovereignty. They erode national sovereignty and they erode national

sovereignty to prop up technocracy. So um so there there really isn't any mystery about what the endgame is to me. Uh again, the Gaza reconstruction plan is the most concrete thing we ever have that if you've ever said, "Well, this sounds like a conspiracy theory." It's not. It's a b it's now a business plan that you can read the full business plan of. But but there are a lot of these business plans and they're going on in different places and this is essentially to your point, Craig, that is coordinated. Uh now, while it's coordinated, they fight amongst themselves, right? So, so all of these technocrats agree on what the endgame is. They don't agree on who controls it.

I've said for a long time that one, I don't think they're going to succeed, but they might wipe out humanity in the process. But the the biggest opportunity here is to get them fighting amongst themselves over who's going to control this because it's not like this is a group of people that are so, you know, lock step that they're not going to, you know, kill each other for for control of the overall system. Maybe you're going to have Bill Gates, maybe you're going to have Elon Musk, you know, but they're moving in the same direction, but they have different language. It's kind of like you have Yvall Noah Harrari, you have Curtis Yarvin, and people think

that's a difference. And what a way they fooled libertarians. And I am I'm going to come down hard. You know, I'm going to be speaking at the Libertarian National Convention, not as a candidate. My topic is going to be more related to cryptocurrency and tokenization, but I may wrap that into into this because I think a lot of them don't know. I mean, I'm not actually saying I I I think that in fact, I think there's an deliberate intention by Teal to send in chaos actors to disrupt the libertarian movement. U again I think Teal's very smart and I think that this stuff needs to be identified and isolated but this so but we've we've seen what's going on in Ohio with what we've discussed with

digital IDs. We've already discussed data centers and now we have what they're doing on the defense side. Um so I don't know if you you want to talk about >> Yeah. Can we um can we can you run that one clip? I think it's a pretty good spot. That one with Chimal Chimath Polyhapatia. when I sent you because I want to set this up. I think that um is that will that take you a second or >> Well, so so here's the the issue that I have is this. Something happened and I don't know what it is, but all of the settings on my browser. So, for instance, I can't I can't share I'm using Brave. I can't share uh a different app. So, I have to figure out how to now put this stuff

without rebooting uh and restarting. >> Okay. So, we can't >> No, we can run it. I just I just need to figure out I've got to uh figure out a way to do this. So, I think I can do this. >> Hold on one second. I I have to do it as a >> Let me try to set that up while you're doing that. See if I can explain this. So, so um Chimat Paleopatia is known for these things called spats, right? And he's also an owner of a basketball team. I forget which one it is. I want to say it was the uh do you remember? Maybe the Milwaukee I don't think it's Milwaukee the Clippers, LA Clippers or something. I don't know. I >> something like Yeah. >> Yes. >> I don't know why that comes to mind.

>> Yeah. He's a partial owner of an NBA basketball team. I don't know what portion, but significant. And he he got involved in these things, you know, he made his money in a lot of different ways, but um he got involved in these things called spax spe special purposition acqu special purpose acquisition, I don't know, somethings, right? And so essentially what it was a way to aggregate money. Okay, so this guy's really good at aggregating money. Now he's also one of the guys that was with Dave David Saxs who's our crypto part-time cryptos are who was in San Francisco as Aaron stated earlier that was raising money that actually helped get JD Vance from Ohio senator to vice

presidential candidate and selected by the Trump administration. There have been a couple tech roundts where, you know, you have the whole cast there. You got Bill Gates, you've got Mark Zuckerberg, you've got the Amazon, the Google guys. You've got them all there. Apple guys, all of them. And and next to next to Trump was Zuckerberg. Okay. Next to him was Shimath Polyapatia's wife who's deeply tied to India. Big money coming out of India. And then Shimath Polyapatia. So he was sitting right at the table. Now, this is him explaining, you know, there basically the 150 people in the world. So, I think there's a pretty good clip before we get into and

there's about 150 people that run the world. Anybody who wants to go into politics, they're all puppets, okay? There are 150 and they're all men that run the world. Period. full stop. They control most of the important assets. They control the money flows. And these are not the tech entrepreneurs now. They they are going to get rolled over over the next 5 to 10 years by the people that are really underneath pulling the strings. And when you get behind the curtain and see how that world works, what you realize is it is unfairly set up for them and their project. First order of business is I want to break through and be at that table. That's the first order of business. And the way

that I do that is by proving that I can do what they do as well as they do it and then do it better than how they do it because at the end of the day they are commercial animals and they'll open the door out of curiosity and they'll let me stay because because I add value and then once I'm there I can open the door for other people who can try to do the same thing. So my entire goal now is that is to be in a position to aggregate enough of the capital of the world to then reallocate it against my worldview. And I'm not saying my worldview is the best or right, but it is mine. And at the end of the day, there are 150 other guys with their worldview. And they don't give a what you think about

their worldview. That's the truth. And so why not me? Why not? Why not one of you? Why not? And so in my life now, I'm just kind of like, why not? Why the not? >> I I think that fits perfectly. What do you think, Erin? I mean >> Oh, yeah. It it absolutely fits perfectly. I mean, and at this point Yeah. Well, he's talking about, you know, the 150 that control things and he said it's not the technology group. This was five years ago, right? That was five years ago. But it's going to become that technology group. That's what he says. I

mean, I think, look, I don't like the guy, but I think he's totally on point that and and they don't care about your world views. And I don't think the technocracy, right, the technocrats, I don't think they're going to care about anybody's world views. And that's what we're seeing at this local level in Ohio. That's what we're seeing in Gaza, too, right? I mean, we're seeing this IMAT corridor. It's the same model basically, right, Aaron? It's the same models we're seeing here in Ohio. It requires different players, different components, different things, but ultimately it's driving towards the same endpoint, right? These controlled cities and you know, data centers and all these

other things, right? That are going to lead to robotics and you know, I mean, you can only everybody knows I mean anybody who's watching this, I don't think they have any I don't think there's anybody who needs to realize, you know, people realize where this is heading. You know what I mean? these data centers and that's what we're going to get into with Andreil, right? I mean, I think this is a perfect setup for what we're getting into here with Andre and the these you know uh you know the these drones, right? The um this it's I think it's a perfect setup for that. So, if you want I don't know if you want me to jump into that or you want to start off on it. Yeah, I give a quick overview on

this and then we can we can drill into it. But but you know again uh uh the you know the previous video clip I mean yeah even David Rockefeller and these others have been talking about uh the elite class and uh and believing that elites should control things. They none of this has been hidden. I think that there's just a disconnect. Um, but you know the I think the quote um I'm trying to find the exact quote. There's uh there are a couple of good ones from Yeah, here we go. For more than a century, ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the

Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim to wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interest of the United States. Characterizing my family and me as internationalists and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure, one world if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty and I'm proud of it. So again, they don't hide the the disconnect that we have is we've been propagandized to the point where we won't even accept the truth when it's blatantly flashed in front of our eyes. We still want to believe that this isn't

going on. People still want to believe that their vote matters and that democracy works and everything else and that and that this doesn't exist. But this does exist and they say it overtly. The founding UN documents talked about the creation of a one world government. When you read the UN agenda 2030 in what it describes, it outlines technocracy. And the UN agenda 2030 is a direct offshoot of the trilateral commission and their influence on the new international economic order from 1974 which was built on technocracy. This this is again none of this is hidden. None of this is speculation. They don't hide this but people refuse to either understand it or accept it. So what he

said is not a myth that this is this is absolutely the case. And so you know they believe in global government in a technocracy controlled by elites and I don't think the tech folks are are any better. In fact I think in some ways the tech folks are worse. And now a lot of times what happens with these tech companies is uh they end up getting controlled by the investors and and capital becomes how these organizations end up getting shaped. So I mean we talked about Kla and everything else but having been a serial entrepreneur I started my first tech company I was 19. I've met with 150 VCs I' I've seen how the process works. They control the access to capital and they direct uh how

your business can function and whether or not you get access to capital markets, whether or not you can go public, the whole thing is controlled at that level. So they so even as he was talking about the 150 that control the world, they might not be technologists but they own the technologists and they own the direction of how they operate and and so this has been the case. So we may get a new class of people but that new class has actually been indoctrinated as evidenced by what he said in the clip. He just wants to become like them. He's not even sitting there saying I want to change and you know change anything in any material way. He just wants to be one of the guys

at the table. This is one of the things I have consistently said has been disappointing about Bitcoin maxis is that early on people started out uh looking at central banks with disgust and then it turns out for the ones that are left as maxis pos pushing the position that they push right now they're looking at it with envy. They they actually just want to become like that. They envision a new pyramid with themselves at the top. They call it the citadel. They have all these diagrams about it. It's no different than the than the Rockefeller system at all. None of it's different. It's just that they're at the top of it. And so, um, so yeah, this is this is what is

happening. And at some point, the glorifica and again, I come at this from a libertarian perspective as of an entrepreneur influenced by iron rand. That is where I come at it. And then at some point um you actually have to observe what's going on and realize that you know free markets have been hijacked. Libertarianism has been hijacked. It's been hijacked by technocrats and a lot of people don't recognize. And so moving into Andre though. So um $1 billion 5 million square feet 4,000 workers. This is what Andre is building Arsenal 1 in Ohio. It's the largest autonomous weapons manufacturing facility in America. And what we are talking about here are AI powered drones and unmanned systems made

in the heartland. So, you know, if you're worried about jobs leaving, you know, the military-industrial complex just moved in. So, war is great for business, right? What's going on right now in the Middle East? Perfect. How much are we up to? Last time I checked, it was $34 billion, but that was a few days ago, and it seems like they're ramping up. And so Androl is Palmer Ly's defense tech company backed by Peter Teal. Um, and you know, we've already talked about some of the aspects of it. It's in Ohio, strategic for manufacturing, testing, labor. They have contracts with the Department of Defense, Border Patrol, Allied Nations. Uh, and the vision is to mass-roduce

autonomous weapons like cars at a massive economy of scale. So that's that's my intro to to Androl. >> Yeah. And so I've done a lot of watching this stuff. I mean, I watched a couple weeks ago on Bloomberg there was a and then they you could even get more access to it. There was this um I think it's called the Hill and Valley Conference, right? And it's pretty much pretty much Peter Teal's um umbrella and it's all the people that he's founded. You know, Andreal being one of the biggest ones, but there's it's not the only one. There's a lot of these other things going in. It could be in your town. It could be, you know, Andre is not just in Ohio either. It's got its development,

you know, it's R&D out in California, Northeast. I think somewhere up around Urron, they do something. But then they also have a manufacturing facility for unmanned submarines. I think it's being built being built in Australia. So, this is becoming a pretty big company pretty quickly. And I watched a couple of videos and I think what they're it's pretty clear what they're doing right now. They're giving full access to the facility. So there's nothing in there, right? It's just a building, an empty shell. They've got these, you know, station one, station two, station 27, station 32. And you can tell it's a very modular type of a field where they're going to be able to move things in and

out as things change. So right now, their primary thing is to build this Fury, right? This unmanned drone. And um and so they're going to, you know, I think they've sent 30 people, right, from Ohio to California to figure out how they're going to do it, right? They do the R&D there, they get all the parts and pieces and then they're going to bring it back to Ohio and start mass producing this again. Supposedly with humans, right? Supposedly they're going to get to the 4,000 target. People are questioning this target of 4,000 employees because they don't believe it's really going to happen. What they really believe this is going to be machines making machines at some point

in the near future. and at least to some degree. So the goal is by the end of 2026 they're going to have this ramped up to like I think 250 workers. So essentially what you're doing is you know you're getting out of high school you know and you're you're jumping into the you know um you're you're you know this I don't know if this is what people dream to do you know go out and build drones that are going to be doing nothing but surveillance and but Ohio does have a background in this right Ohio up in Lima Ohio they we've built tanks we we have built things in the past in Ohio so there is a little bit of a flavor for this you know and I don't know if there's any connection to

that or not. But so these are essentially defense drones being built in Ohio. You know, Ohio's on the front line of this. Um, and so you get out of high school, you go build drones, and we've got this guy, Palmer Lucky, who's heading this thing up, and a couple other of, you know, a couple other Peter Teal kind of like characters. And this guy, you know, he's got this funny goatee. He's always got like a Hawaiian shirt on. And, you know, he comes across as kind of like a, you know, a friendly kind of a, you know, guy. and they're doing this big marketing campaign right now to make it accepted in Ohio. It it's um and even in California, right? It's it's to be

accepted. And you know, while there's nothing to be exposed, but I can almost assure I'm I'm almost sure that what'll happen in two or three years, you're not going to get interviews with these guys and you're not going to get inside the factory. You're not going to see anything. And it's going to be a very closed down thing. And it's going to be a lot like what we're talking about with these other things where you know there's a it's like a data center, right? You've got this building and there's all this money that's gone into it. You don't know how all the money got there. you got a few people working there because if you go around the data centers, you might have this massive

four, five, six building data center, you know, with a big electrical grid there and, you know, backup water and, you know, so that they're all equipped and they got backup generators, but there's only like 15, 20 people working there and they're getting these huge tax abatements, you know, that go on for who knows how long. In my own town, I mean, I can, you know, I was telling Aaron the other day, I can hit golf balls to some of them. They're so close. And then right after that there's another four or five. Right after that there's another four or five or six. And so they're everywhere and they're getting these huge tax abatements but there's really nobody working there. And that's

essentially what it feels like is going to happen with Andre, right? It's going to be a similar kind of a thing where you have this box and you don't necessarily know what's going on inside of it. So the um on the south side of Columbus they've they've taken over an old um airport. I think it was mostly military. I think it shared it was pro it was kind of a a mil government and a military and also private for a long time. It still might be Rickenbacher. I think they still run some you know commercial aircraft out of there. But this also goes back to I think where they were where you know again it's connected back to Epstein and Wexner when they located the

Southern Air Transport from Miami to Ohio and they were using that again it's believed to be for CIA operations you know because this and that's a leap right there right because now we're going from you know this technocracy into the defense side of you know we got you know is Wexner a CIA agent like Maxwell was is Epstein a CIA MSAD, you know, MI6 agent? You know, is he a multiple agent for these? And you think, well, why would someone be an agent for multiple different countries? Well, it's because these people don't work on borders, right? They this isn't a border. They don't care about borders, right? They care about, you know, the 150 have this agenda. And this is part

of that agenda is building these autonomous, you know, these these, you know, unmanned drones. And so the um the there was a if you want to see the interview on this, there was a girl who did it and it the name of her like podcast or whatever she does. It's called sorcery, right? And she's this young cute soft girl and she's asking okay questions but it's to make you feel welcomed, right? If you every interview I've seen Aaron has been a female doing the interview with them, you know, there's never it's it's very to create this soft kind of a feel, you know, like welcome into our community. We're here to bring jobs. You know, this is a good feel, but I think it's not going to be

long until this shuts down. And you're going to feel like wait a minute, like how did this thing get funded? We have no control over stopping it now. It's already in place. It's running full speed ahead and there's nothing we can do about stopping it. And um that's what I see happening. >> Yeah. I there's something that I discussed last week that I want to tie into this. So just again because what I what I do want to hammer home particularly because I know a lot of the audience are are liberty oriented definitely free market oriented. Last week I talked about the new AI policy. So understand, so you have these data centers being built, you know, where maybe Epstein is literally the president

of a corporate town and one of the biggest places where this is happening. Um, and there are all of these state subsidies that are coming in. And what are the data centers for? The data centers are for AI. Well, what kind of AI? Well, remember what I said last week about the AI policy? Trump's AI policy coming out of the White House and then the Marsha Blackburn bill. These bills give control over which AI models can even be released to the Department of Energy. Under this model, the Department of Energy will be able to determine whether or not your model can be released. Under this bill, the Secretary of Commerce, Howard Lutnik, will have the decision or not to

essentially go after and challenge and nullify any state law regarding AI. So if if you know so the department of energy determines whether an AI model can be released and now Howard Lutnik can come in and say well you know if you're in Ohio and you say well we don't want some aspect of this AI we don't want these data centers for instance that might be pushing censorship or as we just saw with Pete Hegath and the secretary of war who said you know well you know if you're a government contractor whatever you can no longer work with anthropic because they refused used to surveil US citizens and be used for the purpose of autonomous weapons. Right? All of this is being said, all of

this policy and what is or is not possible is being defined by this bill through Congress and White House policy. Furthermore, the FTC will be in charge of determining whether or not the AIS are acceptable with respect to political bias, which is absurd um given the nature and the history of the FTC and section 230 will be eliminated essentially uh making it so that these the AI platforms will have actual liability. the section 230 gives you uh kind of immunity for hosting content. You're allowing basically a free speech platform, but if you get rid of section 230, then the platforms themselves become liable. So, you have

to connect the dots here and basically say Howard Lutnik is in control of state law and nullifying state law. The Department of Energy uh is responsible for picking the models. The FTC is responsible for censorship. And then within that framework, data centers are being built with uh subsidies at the state level by taxpayers. And while all this is going on, electricity rates are going up. This is not a free market. There is no aspect of what I just described that is a free market. So I am pro free markets and I'm pro AI and none of that is what is happening here because there will be a lot of people that I've even seen as libertarians. Oh, you must be anti- tech or you must be

anti-free market if you're if you're opposing these things. And u I think clearly I've seen so many politicians that just try to try to gl misuse and misappropriate free market economics and related ideas just so that they can push something through and it's happening at the state level. So, I did want to I wanted to put that on there. And in fact, I should as we've talked about it, I should probably put together a pretty simple diagram that puts this uh in place and puts this together because that that's what people need to be focusing on. Um is that now the other thing that I will say though is I continue to believe as an example that this whole data center concept is flawed. People are

talking about and I've mentioned the fact that I don't think AI is a bubble per se. There are bubbles. There are always bubbles in in speculative markets. That's a natural part of capitalism and free markets. But think about it this way. If if somebody's given billions of dollars incentives to build a a data center and then all of a sudden Deepseek 4 is released that uses 90% less energy, then you're going to have a bunch of halffinish projects and a whole bunch of just absolute wasteland scenarios. Uh kind of like we saw with the rust belt and everything else. you could see that even even quicker. I actually just saw yesterday that there's basically a lot of the data center

construction now is completely on hold. Uh and what's going on with what's going on in the Middle East. I mean there you know this may be a completely different conversation that we're having in six months even about what's going on with these data centers in Ohio. >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean it very well could be. And I think, you know, back to, you know, Trump and Lutnik and and, you know, we remember, I don't know, 6 to 8 months ago, they were out saying, "Oh, we're going to bring back manufacturing, you know, we're going to bring back these high-tech jobs from China, you know, and these things." And I think the perception that they wanted us to have is that instead of, you know, a bunch of

Chinese people turning little screws that, you know, they're going to bring that back here and we're going to have a bunch of people turning those little screws and putting these, you know, these furies and these, you know, self, you know, or unmanned drones together. But I don't I really don't think that's going to be the case. I think there's going to be a lot of automated stuff. And Palmer Lucky sells this as, you know, it's like, let's give let's give everybody a gun, you know what I mean? And then there we won't need war, right? It's kind of that concept, you know, it's the it's the, you know, the Second Amendment argument, you know? It's like, well, if everybody had a gun, there

wouldn't be any crime because everybody's afraid to rob a bank because everybody's got a gun, you know, and he's kind of coming at it from that approach. But I think this it's all a facade, Erin. I don't think that's really what's it might be. He might I don't know he might slightly believe that himself but Peter Teal doesn't because I watched that Hill and Valley conference and this is not about that at all. You know what I mean? This is about you can feel the momentum getting behind this in terms of you know it's about it's it's sort of that Epstein mentality. I don't know. Do you relate Peter Teal at all to Epstein? Could you think they could be kind of the same

type of actors? you know, they're both facilitators of something. I don't think Teal's at the top, and I don't think Epstein was at the top, but they're definitely hubs in the middle of this whole thing. And it feels to me like Teal's a hub. And so, I don't really, you know, whatever Palmer Lucky is saying about give everybody a gun. I think there's a higher agenda above him that's saying, "Yeah, okay, you can run with that." But that's not what we're doing here. This is about this is about control. This is about um, you know, money, right? is about winning, you know, and um I don't know your thoughts on that. >> I think Peter Teal is is being kind of groomed to be at the at the top of the

new class, right? So again, to the extent that there's a a handoff of the guard. I I think Peter Teal is very smart and he's very strategic. I mean, I think I more so even than Epstein. Um so, but I mean, he's not the guy pulling the strings. He's because he's new to the game, right? and he doesn't he's not like a Rockefeller or a Rothschild where he he jumps in and he's inheriting the control control structure, but I I think he's kind of uh earning his piece. Uh and I I think he's he's poised to become one of the certainly one of the 150. Um I and I think he's fasttracking that. And I think because I think to a certain degree the the old guard, you know, I

mean once you get down to three or four or five levels of, you know, passed down intergenerational wealth, I mean, this stuff becomes, you know, inbred and and and these people kind of lose their their edge. Um, but I, you know, I do respect Teal's intelligence and you can, and again, I don't have it all mapped out, but I, even from what you can see that he's mapped out, he's clearly, he's thinking multiple moves in advance at multiple levels and he is pushing a lot of pieces in place, right? So, if you compare Peter Teal of 20 years ago versus Peter Teal of today, uh, and you look at how much progress he's made and you look at that gap and where he is now

in the in the power structure, um, I I doubt anybody has actually accelerated that quickly, >> but that's just my take. >> Yeah. No, I think that fits. And you know, for anybody who gets a chance, you know, watch that if you I mean, I know it's it actually isn't a bad series of interviews. You know, there's a hours and hours of content on this Hill and Valley conference in DC. You know, it was again sponsored by Teal. And um it's it's uh it's it's good, but it's very concerning because you once you watch a little bit of this, you feel how you know this machine's moving, right? And it's on multiple fronts. You know, it's not just Anderil with drones, right? It's not

just, you know, they're it's it's a pretty comprehensive approach here. And to me, Erin, this is like, you know, you know, these drones when they're not taking out targets, I mean, they're in surveillance mode, right? They're gathering information and they're, you know, it's the eye in the sky. It's a thing. You know, >> you know, again, bad behavior and you're gone, right? You know, it's you're Solommani, right? You're just a little ember on the street burning you on the side of the road, you know, and you know, I mean, it it's it's the ultimate in surveillance, right? And then you get the swarm drones, you know, the swarm attack drones. And we've seen China has that,

right? You see them doing the aerobatics and the different things instead of the fireworks, you know? So, it's just very concerning to watch this, you know, from that perspective, you know, where it's going, but also just, you know, the takeover of a city. I mean, what does this do to Columbus? You know, what does it is this um you know, what do a bunch of data centers and a couple manufacturing, you know, robotic, you know, uh machines making machines, factories do with a bunch of tax um you know, 20-year tax abatements. What does that do to a city over time? You know, um it >> it's going to end up looking like Allentown, Pennsylvania. I mean, we know how this ends up, right? Um, again, I,

you know, I I'm going to find the free to choose segment from Milton Friedman because I I I recall vaguely him doing a a segment on that, but um, it sounds great at the time, right? The politician comes in and says, "Oh, we're going to bring jobs." And people vote for it because people need jobs and then, you know, and then they turn out to be temporary. In this case, I think you you highlighted something really important, which is the jobs aren't going to be there. Andrew is not going to have 4,000 jobs. Th this is something that is unique about this particular situation. They're using the promise of jobs. Those jobs will not exist. Clearly, the jobs will not exist. Look at the jobs report.

Look at what's going on even this week with Oracle uh laying off 30,000. In fact, I wish I'd saved the tweet of just some of the recent announcements with AI. Who in the hell would hire 4,000 people, right? I mean, Jack Dorsey's company just cut 40%. And it makes sense that you would cut 40%, but what's different is is just thinking about what's going on in terms of the propaganda. Now, I don't know what's going on on on what's it like on the ground. And I think maybe, you know, in Ohio because I think maybe there is push back. Ohio has been this, you know, swing state, important swing state, but it's tilted heavily red in recent history. But I'm getting the sense the fact that Ramas

Swami is down 10 points. Are people buying it? Do people in Ohio, are they buying the propaganda? Are they buying, oh, Andrew's great, it's going to be 4,000 jobs. Are they buying, are they excited about the data centers or are they concerned about the data centers? What is the average guy who has is paying $42 a month now uh increased average per month in electricity uh and dealing with all this inflation? What do they actually think about what's going on? Do they get a sense that it's or is this hope opium on this? >> Well, I I don't think there's a lot of people that are that aware of it because I don't hear people talking about it that much, you know, just out and about.

And so I think u I think people are tired, you know, I think they're tired of hearing about Epstein and, you know, these other things, you know, they're tired of, you know, Q. They're tired of, you know, tend. They're tired of all these different things. And I think this kind of falls under that category. And so, you know, when when when it becomes here's what I think will happen is I think they will take all those all those interviews that I'm talking about, right? That sorcery interview, cute young lady doing an interview with, you know, the the R&D guy out in California, you know, another person doing the interview with Palmer Lucky at the new facility.

and and they'll take sound bites out of there and they will run those things and they will just propagandize this thing to no end you know because you know we've talked about this I think a little bit at least we did on a on one of the technocracy roundts you know the you know this book by Anthony Sutton on FDR I mean when I read that book like I don't think we had a fair election in 1906 whenever Teddy Roosevelt I really don't think we had fair elections back then when I read that book I really have to question if we had fair elections from 1906 until 1945 when FDR went out. I'm not sure we had fair elections. We had on I just and that's what I wonder about this, you know, are we is is

in some ways like we'll see what happens, you know, is Ramiswami really, you know, behind the curve? Is he going to be able to recover? Like if he doesn't, I'm gonna that's going to give me hope to some extent, you know, that this thing because they need him in here. He's part of the cog in this wheel, right? I mean, he fits with Vance. he fits with this whole thing. So if he comes from behind and he wins it just doesn't give me a lot of hope that you know there is a fair vote even at the state level you know I mean there is a vote you know it maybe at the local level you know I mean what's the why does someone want to rig a local city council meeting you know city council

vote I don't know I mean maybe they do sometimes but at the state level well they usually do town councils are usually rigged for development contracts this is this is a common >> this is a common playbook and I this is why When when people tell me, "Oh, the change we're going to make is at a local level." The the the reason that I push back on that is that you have to understand you have a town council and you have a school board. And the ability for somebody to actually take over a school board, understanding that in a lot of these smaller towns, the school is one of the largest employers in the area. And then you have teachers unions that have money. Who is going to mount a

sustain? who's going to be able to amount a s a sustained defense of that for the school board, right? That's that is re really challenging. And on the town council side, the ugliest stuff I've ever seen, I've run for office from everywhere from the president of the United States down to school board. School board was the worst and was the absolute most um malicious intense thing. I I think I might have mentioned this to you that there was a Facebook group with 2% of the entire town in it in opposition to my running and they were committing voter fraud. They were putting uh flyers without identifying who they were from. And somebody printed out the entire thing, the entire uh chat

within the Facebook group. And I'm like, you've got to be kidding me. M like $40,000 was spent against me on mailers. These are not the illegal handouts. These are the actual mail. This is in a town of 20,000 people for a schoolboard race. Why? Because I stood up and I said I didn't support the budget increase. So I I supported keeping the budget where it's at, which got positioned as a cut and then I got flagged and then it turned into this whole other thing. So my point is that yes, maybe there are some exceptions, but by and large this is how these town councils work. And so the town council is going to be somebody that's going to be favorable towards

development contracts, including by the way some contracts for the the development of the school itself. So the actual construction project of a school or schools can be a major piece of this entire thing. And again, um the the builders have uh a financial incentive in the outcome. How many general citizens I mean, if you actually look at the turnout rate for these local elections, they're pretty dismal. So it's almost impossible to win control of these things and sustain it just when you look at the ma the math of it and the incentives behind it. So I'm not saying that it's not possible, but when people say to me, well, you know, the key to this is, you know, get involved

locally, I I do have to roll my eyes a little bit just from the standpoint of understanding the money and the mechanics of of local elections. Well, and you know, I think that this is um you know, at the state level, you know, it's part of this control, this tech, you know, the using the technology, you know, to gain control of the political system. I mean, they've stated that like they don't really think we should have a vote, you know, they think it should be, you know, they don't really think we should. So, why wouldn't we think that they're using that to take away the vote, you know, and so who's doing that? Peter Teal at the state level, you know, I mean, what kind of a campaign? I mean,

they have their sound bites, right, Aaron? It's like I can already see them forming them as they're doing these interviews. I'm like, this is the perfect I could almost cut them out for them and say, "There you go. There's your, you know, 30 second soundbite. There's your three minute sound bite. All you got to do is just get behind it. Bunch of money. Run the heck out of that thing." And um and, you know, and influence the vote. And then who knows if the vote's even fair. I just I will be shocked if Rama Swami doesn't win this because he fits. I mean, he just fits in the piece. It's almost like he's slated like JD Vance. I mean, did JD Vance really win the Ohio Senate race?

Did he really win the vice presidential candidate? No. I mean, he was bought it was bought and paid for by Teal and then it was bought and paid for by Sachs and Shim Poly Hopatia and whoever else raised money, you know, to put into the campaign. And so, however they do it, you know, I don't know. But I just I don't I don't think people are aware of this, Aaron. You know, they're gonna here's what they're going to hear, right? They're going to say, "Oh, look at that. A new manufacturing plant. You know, oh, it's out at Rickenbacher. Oh, great. Huh. That's great. You know, do you know anybody that works there?" Nope. Well, why is that? Well, because the hidden part is there's nobody that

works there. I mean, it's really that short of a conversation. You know, you're like, "But it's a hell of a building. I mean, it's a nice looking building down there. They're putting a lot of money in down there, you know? I mean, that's the conversation. That's the real conversation that goes on, right, when you bring that up. >> So, I I have some personal >> I I I have personal experience with this. I want to say one quick thing, which is that Andre has a strategic partnership with with Palunteer and and they're sharing data. One of the things that Palunteer is doing is they are they're forming partnerships in multiple categories. Healthcare, they run the

NHS, they they run the database for the entire NHS in the UK, the entire health care system there. uh they run major hospital systems in the United States. Then they have access connected to DHS, IRS, all of these other databases in multiple categories. And as I've said time and time again, we have these click wrap agreements and we have all of these agreements and there's all these like slick ways of getting around being able to individually identify someone. So these agreements that say, well, yeah, we can share data, but it has to be deanonymized data. Well, the thing is nobody contemplated what it would be like if you had access to 15,000 of those contracts and could run them

through AI. Guess what? You can actually figure out how to identify the data and Palunteer is in a position to do that and they're already doing this with some of the modeling. So, they're already tied in to Android. So, when you when you start to look at the how strate Peter Teal is strategic, these investments and things overlap and he's he's hoovering up all of the data and he's doing it legally through these legal agreements. But I want to go back to elections and say again the I did that podcast on it. America 1.0 was over but voting is completely irrelevant. I mean the first of all the turnout rates in local elections are are low but the voters don't know anything. But what

determines the outcome is now propaganda that's driven by AI. And the reason that the Democrats won starting under Obama is they got a lead in investing in a get out the vote apparatus. So they have 200 data points on every voter and they're at the point where they're figuring out how to, you know, send a, you know, text message or a strategically positioned Facebook message that would then recommend, hey, go to your neighbor and say this because they know not only about you but your neighbor. And so they're like putting together sophisticated plans and they're orchestrating this and the Republicans were at a disadvantage. Trump won in 2016 in part because he got

access to Palunteer which was part of what Peter Teal brought to the table in 2016. So these votes the targeting is at the level of I can send mailers, texts, and everything else that are that are incredibly targeted because if I know now 500 data points about you, I know your your magazine subscriptions, where you stand on issues, and all of this other stuff, then you can get an ad that's completely different than your next door neighbors. It's all manipulation. And it's all control. Well, Palanteer is in a position >> to to control this. This is why I was saying the people the Save America Act, which Elon Musk is behind. Oh, this is going to save. Of course, he wants it

because it consolidates all of the voter data at DHS. All of the voter data. So now, so now imagine Palunteer hoovers that data up. You have have a complete advantage. If you ever watched there was a movie about Brexit and how Brexit was won and part of that was I don't know if it was Cambridge Analytica or one of the players that that you know came in and harvested a bunch of data and ran some AI models and said uh you know went outside of normal convention because usually when you do these things you only target people that have voted in you know three out of the four last elections or whatever it happens to be. They went to disaffected voters that hadn't voted in numerous elections and

they and they played off of that group. They use the AI targeting. That's what put Brexit over the edge. So all of it's fake. The voters don't know anything. And it is the biggest AI data show of all time. So the so the voting is is is absolutely irrelevant. And so people don't have any idea about about any of this. And I I try to explain it and I go back and forth between it's over, but then I also realize people don't realize this. So, we're going through a thing now where people are having uh buyer's remorse from Trump and they're saying, "Well, yeah, I guess we didn't uh you know, we didn't restore the republic." And meanwhile, the whole time this was

going on, I said, "Your your premise is that the guy that pushed Operation Warp Speed and added more debt in one term than anyone else is the only guy that can save Western civilization and he's going to use Tulsi Gabbard and VC." Like, on the face of it, you're out of your mind. But the but the problem isn't even just who the individuals are because what I'm concerned about is people are going to have another one of these rallies and they're going to pick another group of white knights. The problem is structural. It's the system itself. It doesn't matter who the candidate is. You cannot fix the system at this point. And now it's even more entrenched and more controlled. My guess

is that Peter Teal is getting involved. I could see and part of part part of how I know this is I started a super PAC in uh 2014 called Stark 360 and I talked to a guy who Peter Teal was the was the the largest donor to a Ron Paul super PAC and I talked to the guy who ran that super PAC for probably 20 hours to find out what all of the tactics are and the strategies are that they used uh in that race. Now, obviously, Ron Paul didn't win, but Ron Paul had a pretty outsized impact relative to the amount of money that went into the campaign. So, he was telling me all this, he was more than elated to tell me about the strategies because he's like, you know, so for all

of the the the big results that we got relative to the money, no one has actually reached out and said, "How did you do this?" No one. None of the political parties. And so, he gave me all of his information and then we took that and built upon it. I could have built an entire system in New Hampshire uh for elections across the board, the 400 House races, all of the schoolboard races and everything else. I could have built a data infrastructure. I had already started building the data infrastructure. And I decided not to do it because I realized that you can't trust any of the people or any of the candidates. people that I supported that signed pledges that they were for some

position or whatever that I was the largest funer helped them get elected a few years later ended up being the primary sponsor making the thing that they were opposing permanent and so I realized if I if I've got 400 seats in the house and I've got 24 in the Senate and then I got to deal with everything else that there's no way to make the the the math work even I was even put going to put in place you know incentive structures and rating systems and everything else and it's like these people will cave every time on things that are important. And that's what's continued to happen in New Hampshire. I'm not going to dwell on this for too much longer, but I mean it

is it is actually top of mind because I'm is I'm out doing the US Senate thing, which is designed for leverage because I know that you can move the seat one way or the other in a almost 50/50 split. But man, I've learned all of this. I've been involved in in in not only races, but building infrastructure for these races. If people really understood how this worked, they would stop believing in voting. And I and I hope I I I and I don't know how to I guess maybe I will have to explain this because it's in part of the broader context of and we'll get to this at the end. The way out of this is not voting. The way out of this is reclaiming your free will, taking your life back, and

building parallel systems. That we will get to that part of it. But but you know, I'm conflicted because part of me just wants to build those other things. But I realized that just building those other things won't matter if people are still nine layers deep in the matrix, right? You you like you're so there's so many levels removed you can't even get them to look at your other thing. So anyway, rant over. >> No, I mean it's valuable because you know you ask the question you know um what well you know we're asking the question how will this be accepted? you know, how will, you know, cuz your picture was perfect there, right? You've got, you know, this this weapons

manufacturer, you know, sitting in your backyard, you know, I mean, it's a little bit more the way with the data centers because they're literally in backyards. I mean, I can show situations where it's like there's some backyards and, you know, you basically almost back up to a data center and um um and how is this being received? I I just don't think right now people care that much. And the and it's because you can already see the sound bites being created from these interviews at Anderil, right? They've got them at the home office, the R&D center. They've got them local where the manufacturing's at and they've got this nice girl going around interviewing

these and boom. And you know, even if even if all it's going to take is someone to say get a warm and fuzzy feeling, oh that Anderero, I've heard of them and I have a good feeling with it. You know what? I mean, it's all it's literally marketing, right? It just literally is like, "Oh, cute girl and real. I'm good with that. It feels warm and fuzzy." You know what I mean? And I mean, I really think that's about all that's going on. People don't know what it's I mean, I I'd say there's not more than 10% of the population that even has an idea what Andreal is doing. And maybe because of the the war right now and drones, you know, it's it's in the you know, it's a

topic and maybe it's a little bit higher percentage. Maybe it's 15 or eight 18, but I don't think it's that many people that even know that it's going in, you know? I mean, if anything, they'll just hear, "Oh, yeah, we got a new manufacturing facility going out at Rickenbacher." And that's it. There's nothing else. They don't know anything else. And um and they don't want them to know anything else. So, no, I think it's I think what you just said there is valuable because, you know, you've seen it. I mean, you've seen it first like you said, you've seen it at the schoolboard level and you've seen it at the presidential level. You know how the packs work. You know, you you've seen

how they influence people and they don't really I mean, they could cheat if they had to, but I think Peter Teal's like, "We don't even have to cheat. All we have to do is just keep spend a little money and just keep jamming this at people and they'll buy and you know, I mean, I I I really think he thinks about it that simple. It's just it's more about the getting the groundwork laid than it is actually doing the ground work." You know what I mean? Like that's easy, right? It's a quick little sound bite. Anybody can build that for them. I don't know. Does that make sense? >> Well, it makes sense. And again, I I I think Peter Teal's smart and I've read uh zero to one. And I've read some of

this other stuff. Some of the stuff he says is accurate, right? Don't have a board of directors with more than three people. And he's like, go in and try to get, you know, a monopoly um on an industry. I It's actually smart strategic stuff. The only issue that I have with it is is now that it's it's using the state and it's using force, right? That that's actually my biggest issue with Peter Teal. If Peter Teal were actually operating under free markets, but he's he's under the haze now of of of Curtis Yarvin, and he believes in a uh a CEO uh or monarch. And um that's where this becomes problematic. You know, democracy does suck. So, I'm not advocating for that.

But there's a flip here that happened that is very dangerous with respect to to free will. And you know so I get what I want to drill one more time into related to this this concept of of >> incentide >> this is important right so um in Ohio Google has received $54 million in incentives for 20 jobs. Now remember, all of these companies, um, Intel is not necessarily AI, but these companies that are that are doing AI, you know, the only companies are going to be able to do this are companies that are blessed by the DOE, companies that are blessed by the FTC, companies that are have gone through sensitivity training and meet the political bias detectives of of the

FTC. So, these aren't even these are companies that are building your digital prison. These are not people that are building AI technology that empowers you or enhances your free will. These are the companies that are complying with the federal law and then they're getting incentives at the state level. So, so Google 54 million for 20 jobs, $2.7 million in incentives per job. Amazon, $77 million through 2055 for 100 jobs. The total across major data center deals, $343 million for 304, excuse me, for 356 jobs. Nearly a million dollar per position. This is a wealth transfer. This is not free. This is not a free market in any

way, shape, or form. And in Ohio, the median income is $32,000 per year. So, this needs to be put in perspective that the average person would understand. These big corporations are getting almost a million dollar incentive per job when the average median income is $32,000 a year. So, you know, do with that do with that what you will, but but again, it's not it is not free markets and >> but it devastates an economy, right? That in time will devastate a local, state level, and federal economy, right? that will devastate it. >> Uh I mean it will devastate. Look, there's a separate conversation. AI will replace jobs faster than it already is

faster than people. I could I mean imagine last year people were still talking about oh AI is not real. Uh you know people push these things well you know this corporation said that you know they've implemented AI and haven't seen any savings. And I mean some of this stuff is just and and those things still circulate because people want to believe that. I actually just did a um workshop for a couple hundred people in the UK yesterday and it was an older crowd and and and a lot of the people were like, you know, they don't even want to try to use AI and then and then people have have worked their way into it's demonic. They've worked their way into a whole

variety of things and they're denying um its its impact. This is why I always harp on the fact I actually showed this group the music video that I did that's my pin tweet that's actually about the reconstruction uh project in Gaza. And I explained I said what went into it, how I created it. And I'm like this is an ability for me to express how I feel and how I think about what's going on there better than doing a 4-hour podcast. But it it completely reflects like I I spent a lot of time um coming up with the lyrics, the themes, what I wanted what I wanted to show. I wanted to show uh the fact that they're building, you know, it's a a technocracy, a digital prison

being built on uh ground that's been leveled and people that have been on on the, you know, on the bones and ashes of of people that were bombed into oblivion. and I wanted to actually highlight and showcase that visually and and add lyrics to that. That's great. I mean, to me, this is a way for me to express what I really believe, but in in a much better better way, that's a positive way of using AI. But if you're sitting around uh you know, using passively open uh chat GPT or or Google and you're like interacting with it as if if it's a person and you're and you're following that interaction, you're going to end up with psychos. You're you're going to lose free will.

So you there's it's about ownership of this. But now what it's coming down to because they're these same technocrats pushing the laws because it is David Sachs. It is the PayPal mafia. And now by the way, Trump is, you know, Elon Musk is out of favor. So who is on the new board, the new AI board that Trump has? It's Larry Ellison from Oracle and Mark Zuckerberg, who Trump previously said should be in prison. Well, these are the people that are going to be pushing the models that get approved by the DOE and that are benefiting from the rest of this stuff. And so, um, you know, probably not doing a great job of it yet here. I I do like doing these podcast because in some ways I can talk

through some way there'll be a concise, you know, image or a concise video on this that explains this to to truly express in a way that's easy to understand the cronyism. Um, and then what's actually going on with government reg and and it's a weird thing because the other way around there are people that that that say um we need government regulation to protect us from AI and they don't realize that by doing that you end up with a model controlled by the DOE that's censored that Howard Lutnick can determine what the laws are at the state level. That isn't the right answer because it's still this belief that government um is in any way representative of either the people or

the constitution which it's not which is clear when you actually read these policies on AI and you see how all these incentives work. So anyway, I I don't know if you have any any comments more on on these kind of uh incentives that are going on in Ohio. Well, I mean, this is I think what anybody who's paying attention is feeling is going on. And there are the numbers to prove it. You know, I mean, it's um you know, anybody who's seen these data centers, you drive by and see how many cars you see in the parking lot. They're just not there, you know. And I would imagine that how many here's a question. How many data centers have gone in without a tax without some sort of a tax

abatement, without some sort of an incentive? You know, I bet it's not very many. I bet every one of these has some orchestrated, you know, uh bonus, you know, um um you know, um what what's the word I want to put on it? >> Subsidy. It's all it's some subsidy, some incentive. >> And you know, look, I I go back to I remember Celindra. Remember the the solar company Celindra, we need to be looking at this the same way. And by the way, I I am rooting for China. I'm rooting for deepseek because the irony is if deepseek does what it what it what it claims it's going to put all of this stuff out of business. >> Exactly. >> We're subsidizing a stupid idea and the

stupid idea is that the only way that AI gets better is brute force through compute as opposed to innovation. Right? So I you know people have asked me I don't AI is not a bubble. AI is the most transformative technology um in in our lifetime with without a doubt. I I have done. Yeah. >> But but investing in data centers um you know somehow we've missed the idea that there's going to be fundamental innovation within AI itself and that innovation is going to make this data center stuff except that you know what you're going to have you know what comes next bailouts for data centers. That's the problem. It starts with a subsidy and it ends with a bailout. And

so then it becomes well we've got to save Google, we've got to save Amazon. we've got to save 2,000 jobs or whatever. And so now um so now the state provided the state level subsidies and then the federal government provides the bailout. And then the person with a $32,000 annual, you know, average median income in Ohio gets screwed and gets no benefit from it and probably ends up getting fired as part part of the whole process. And so um anyway, there there's a song coming on all of this. I just don't know how to I got to think about how to write it because it's it's it's it's idiotic what's happening. But I think the free market is going to solve this. And I did

want to say one other thing that and I haven't figured out how to do this yet either. So what Peter Teal and others are doing there's a there's a big issue here you know because one of the big tenants of you know voluntarism and and libertarian thing is that the most important thing is consent. But then how do you how do you deal with these click wrap agreements? Are click wrap agreements consent? If if it would take you two hours a day every day to read it and then you actually have no ability to change it. Is that consent? But then but then you get into this concept of informed consent. But the problem is just as I was talking about the problem here is the solution here is not

government, right? The the worst thing you have is government coming in and defining what informed consent is. So in reality, we need voluntary solutions to help identify and address this issue of of consent and these click wrap agreements and everything that's going on. And I've tried to work on that. It's a tough, you know, I I've worked on it in in kind of pieces because you have to make people aware of the fact that they've consented to this stuff to begin with. It's like how do you even get people to the to the table look at this? But this is another another problem where we >> well I mean this sort of fits you know last week I was in Indie you know for a

swim meet for my daughter and uh and you know we go out to breakfast or whatever and you know you you try to find a place to park. Well it's not like the old days where you can just pull up to a thing drop in your four quarters and you're good for an hour you know while you have breakfast or something. So then you go up you know and they got this one central station that's like a brain you know for I don't know 100 parking spots or whatever. And what it does does it it minimizes, you know, it it tells the person who's the parking meter attendant exactly where the violators are. You know what I mean? Like they know there shouldn't be anybody in that spot, that

spot, that spot. And if there is, it's like easy. They just go write a ticket. It's a piece of cake, right? Well, the problem is then they tell you then there's their their system doesn't work, right? Their little brain's not working. You know, you go up, you hit the button, you try to pay, you know, with a credit card or whatever, you know? So you try to punch in your number and everything and it doesn't work and it's freezing cold and it's windy and you're like and you stand there for five minutes and then you try cancel start again doesn't work five minutes. So I'm like so some nice lady walks up and says just write a note and put it in your dashboard. You

know what I mean? Like it's her system. So I'm like okay. So I write a note go and have breakfast. Come out. There's a guy writing a ticket for the back of the car. And I'm like I'm like dude what's up man? Like your thing's not working. The point is then they tell you you need to get an app right. Well, you got to, you know, there's if you can't pay that way, see over here there's like four other apps. Well, there you go. You're standing outside. It's freezing cold. You want to just have breakfast. Are you really going to read that click click rack click wrap agreement? No, I don't even want this stupid app. So, at some point, it comes down to you just have to

resist it. You know what I mean? And just again, you know, there's hopefully the free market blows this data center concept up, you know, for our benefit because sadly we as people collectively aren't going to figure this out in time. The only thing that's going to save us is some other idea which will be so ironic if it comes out of China. It's their open-source AI that actually destroys our stupid idea with this data. The point is it's it's a combination of resistance and it's a combination of free market. You know what I mean? And you have to say, "I'm not I don't want these apps. I just don't want them. I'm sick and tired of apps." You know what I mean? I Right. I mean, people say,

"Well, you're just a lite." No, I'm not a lite. I just don't want these apps and I don't want to sign your agreement and I don't I don't know. I mean, I don't know how to solve it, Aaron. But, I mean, that's a real world example, you know, of I don't want all this legal ease, you know, and you you have no choice. Like you said, you read through that whole thing, I don't even know what half of it means, you know, and then I get to the end of it and it's like, I have no choice. I can't opt out. >> No, I mean, again, the legal system, there's no competition with the legal system and then the corporations uh bribe the the legislators to standardize terms. So, so it's it's not even a

voluntary agreement because you end up with these industry standards that get get kind of put in there by force. The whole thing is broken. there are solutions. I again there's there's the opportunity to open all of this stuff this stuff up but there's a big I you know this has been formulating in the back of my mind a lot uh and it's now starting to come to a head not quite yet probably in about six months where you know there's got to be a conversation um about the fact that there's a lot a lot of the stuff that's being done under the guise of libertarianism is not and it and it actually also isn't consent and it's not free markets. Uh but there's a it's not easy to u it's not

short and simple to explain. And so um but again I actually I truly at this point believe that teal is putting people uh in positions uh within state government uh and local government to kind of infiltrate this and to continue to push push his message because they're good at at propaganda. they know how to use, you know, the tools and the techniques. And so, so we're we're up we've got a battle on our hands. Let me put it to you that way. It's not I'm not saying it's going to be easy. Um, >> but then, you know, so kind of moving into this a little bit more, you know, so 40 million gallons a day by 2030. Again, assuming this stupid, you know, I

the brute force data center thing is even how this continues, which I think will be out innovated. So you're just going to have a lot of excess capacity that that rots. But 90 million a day by 2050, that's what Ohio data centers will consume. Intel alone uses 5 to6 million gallons per day. Columbus needs a needs $1.6 billion uh new water treatment plant taxpayer funded. So I don't know if that crossed your uh cross your wires, but that's what they're looking at. So water rates are already up 18% and the machines are are basically drinking everyone's water. So this is so this is what's going on. These are the costs uh associated with all of this. So yeah

>> and it's hard and it's an easy cell for them, right? It's like well we need water. I mean you know it's like we need air and then we need water, right? So they won't tell you the part. They won't tell you the part what because of these data centers, right? I mean that part gets left out of their media campaign, you know? I mean, right? That's how it always works, you know? And then they say, "You voted against fresh water. How could you you voted against water for the people?" You know, I mean, and then they use it against you. I mean, they're masters at it, right? >> Yeah. No, they're absolute uh masters at it. So, um so yeah, 140 million a day for 1.25 million people versus 90

million a day for servers. That's where that's where this is going right now. And that's assuming that these data centers are even operable. So it's it's it's bad news either way. Either the data centers aren't operable, it's excess capacity and the and the subsidies go to waste and the jobs go to waste or it does hit these numbers and you know water becomes a scarce commodity and people have to pay higher taxes. And so that's essentially what's going on here. And so, you know, I mean, I guess this even extends down to the level of the little typo there, but uh $100 million uh in library in library funding cut and 2.5 billion to corporations. And so, um so yeah, this

is a this is a bad bad situation. And I there's I guess there was a have you seen this NBC4 Columbus investigation? >> Yeah. So rare cancers are clustering near data center facilities. So you have uh diesel generators running 24/7 at 90 dB and Caltech is suggesting that there are 1300 premature deaths nationally per year from data center pollutants. So these have been pushed largely as clean facilities and and they aren't and there are there's you know there should be liability attached to this but you know I'm sure there will be liability shields as well going along with this right more more demonstration of you know again it's all subsidized um you know the the

risk is subsidized the losses are socialized I mean it's just you know kind of the common story which is completely the opposite of of markets. And so this NBC4 uh investigation, I actually want to watch it. I haven't seen the the whole thing. I don't even know if it's available online, but I want to see it. Um but it goes into all the detail about the cancer and you know what's in the particulate matter. Um and it goes into some more of the details about the nature of the deaths and all this other stuff. And of course, you know, these data centers are of course built near homes and near schools, right? So that's, you know, or in the previous example we showed New Albany.

It was the Andrew factory being right, you know, it's on farmland. I mean, they they, you know, New Albany was built on farmland. So all of this stuff was uh so the food supply is going to to this. And you get Forever Chemicals and the cooling systems and there are no there are no health studies uh in involved at all. So there there will be some Aaron Brochovich style movie on this at some point. In fact, I I wonder when the first one will be. I wonder how long uh how long it'll be until there's a a kind of a major major case about this. >> Yeah. Well, we've seen this many many times. It's just um the uh this is devastating in so many ways because, you know, it's all the tax

subsidies, the water it's using, the electricity it's using. So, it's driving up our tax rates. It's driving up, you know, uh, energy rates, you know, and they're located these next to you where, you know, again, you know, who wants them in their backyard? But there's a reason why they must want these in the populous areas. You know, that's the other question I ask is, um, you know, is it because it's a location of the grid? I mean, where I've seen these go up, Aaron, it's not necessarily the cheapest land. you know, it's not the cheapest land. But if the city's giving you a tax abatement and you're not paying the taxes, well, then the land all of a sudden becomes pretty cheap,

you know, relatively speaking. So, it's just it's a lose-lose. There's no win here for the people, you know. I mean, I don't believe that being near a data center gives you any advantage in the world, you know. I mean, I don't know how any advantage it gives us. So, it's just it's just bad all around. And um and it's good to see people doing videos like this because maybe it gets around, you know, and it is effective. I mean, you do a couple good videos on the M. The problem is at some point these local channels are going to get paid off. You remember during COVID, right? Everybody you could put up the whole mosaic and everybody's same talking points, right?

So Peter Tia will be all over that at some point if all of a sudden you start to get push back, they'll just come in and give you the mosaic and everybody will be be the same talking points, right? this is big enough that you will get that kind of push behind it, you know. I mean, >> yeah. Again, it's a question of timing. I I my theory on this though is you know, this is going to fail because the subsidies usually fail because you're subsidizing stupid things that couldn't stand on their own. And I but you know, again, what's the cost going to be >> in the meantime? What's the level of bailout going to be and so forth? And it's just a classic classic situation. Um then you have um

you know I don't know if you know much about this DWNE voted uh to end unlimited data center tax breaks. >> Yeah. I mean I don't know a lot of the details on it but I am aware of that. So >> well so the the Republicans and Democrats voted for it and Dwine used his line item veto to override it. >> Yeah. So um so Dwine is for unlimited uh data center tax breaks and I don't understand the nature of what those are. Of course I don't think there should be any taxes to begin with but the way the the whole package of things happens here is is pretty interesting. So um and again that's a thing that I'm sure people people don't pay attention to. Um, so what's so are you how up are you

on the Ohio driver's license photo being enrolled in a facial recognition database? >> Well, I mean, I do know a little bit, but like the biggest thing for me is it's like, yeah, I don't want anything to do with that. That's what the most important thing I know about it. Like I'm still I still have the old ID. I'm gonna have to, you know, at some point I'm going to get cornered, right? I'm gonna get cornered in getting the upgraded ID, you know, and I don't want it, but >> Well, I think you might already be in it. So, since 2013, every Ohio driver's license photo has been enrolled in a facial uh recognition database without your consent or notification. 30,000 government officials have access

to this data. The FBI has access to the data. Uh the attorney general, Dave Yoast, signed Ohio up for Clear View AI, which is the company that scraped 30 billion photos from social media. So basically you're already in the system. >> Yeah. >> Um so again, you know, I mean this stuff's and it's it's not I mean it's common that people don't know that this stuff is is happening uh because it certainly doesn't get reported. And if this is something that happened in 2013, nobody was even paying attention. And so you know this is how we got Real ID and most people still don't understand what Real ID is and where it goes. People are are clueless about it. Um, so, so this is

this is going on. Clear view AI is another um, actually I want to see real quick who's behind who players in clear view. I'm going to check that out. See who's who's involved in that. But, um, you know, it just it goes on and on. So, this is Ohio. Ohio. Even when I was there, I was there a few years ago. I mean, there are a lot of uh cameras all over the place. Uh yeah, >> you really wouldn't necessarily think of it being uh that big in uh in surveillance. And so just looking at Clear View, Hal Lambert, co-CEOs Richard

Schwarz, early investor with strong Republican ties, known for the MAGA ETF. Uh, and then Schwarz is a co-founder and former Giuliani advisor. They replaced the prior CEO and are focused on federal expansion, including talks with the Pentagon, DHS, and growth under the current administration. So, here's somebody new for us to look at to put on the radar is Clear View. Oh, and look at this. Guess what? The seed investor is Peter Teal. >> Wow. How's that for a new one live? Um >> I mean, you can't make it up, right? >> You can't make it up. $30 million series B, but but Peter Teal is literally the early uh early seed investor. That's

absolutely uh incredible. Clear View is used by thousands of law enforcement agencies, 3,000 police departments, has run nearly 1 million searches for the US police alone in the last year. Key government users include ICE, FBI, DOJ, Custom, Customs and Border Patrol, and local and state police departments across the US and Canada. private sector users through the company emphasizes uh although the company emphasizes law enforcement have included Macy's, Walmart, Kohl's, Best Buy, banks like Bank of America and others like NBA, Madison Square Garden, Eventbrite and casinos. Now, I want to say something that, you know, for for you uh cash people that

that think that using cash matters because as I've said over and over again, if you're using fiat, you are funding bombing children in Iran. If you're using the dollar, you are funding all of this stuff. You're funding the technocracy. You're funding the surveillance state. You're funding all of it by using the dollar. It doesn't matter whether it's cash or whether it's electronic. However, I talked to someone the other day who who said they were at Walmart and they paid with cash and they got back to their car and they got a receipt through email even though they paid with cash. Why? AI surveillance. And my guess is if we dig into it, it's Clear View. And I guess if we dig into

that, that Clear View data and that Walmart data is married with all of the rest of this data. It's tied to your your ID in Ohio and you know who knows how many other states. And I'm sure there's probably a connection in a strategic deal here with Palunteer. It's all integrated. >> Yep. Well, and I don't know if you remember a few years back, maybe it's been four or five years ago when Amazon bought Whole Foods and they said that you weren't even at some point you weren't even going to have to go in there and pay with an ID or pay with a credit card, right? they would just essentially know who you are. And I'm assuming that they're already tracking all that. Like that may have

gotten stopped for a little while. That may not be on the front burner, but I guarantee they're still tracking because they know who you are. I'm sure they're I'm sure they're when you go to the checkout, they've got palm readers. They've got everything. So, they've got three or four ways for you to, you know, be scanned and and verified. So, >> yeah. Yeah, I thought it was actually in DC where there was a it was an Amazon store. It wasn't or maybe it was a Whole Foods, but I thought Amazon at one point was was considering creating their own Prime store. So, I thought there was like a prototype somewhere where the whole idea is you >> you go in and you go out and it uses AI,

calculates everything in the shopping cart, you just leave. And that and that was the whole that's the whole basis of it. >> And so, yeah, again, you know, pitched for our convenience, but how much surveillance it goes into this? This is what they have in China. There's a a social credit system that is so now the social credit system in China is at the province level, but it gets to the level of, you know, they can detect what you put in your shopping cart and they maybe didn't even buy it. Let's say you put two bottles of vodka in, you took it and then you put one of them back. It can actually penalize you at that at that level. That's how much uh AI surveillance is going into this. And so

like we're again, we're walking into this assuming that this is a great thing. There's no reason at this point to believe in the good intent of the people that are doing this. If you live through COVID and you believe that stuff like this that's implemented is going to have any safeguards or is in any way going to be used to protect your freedom, you you can't be helped at this point, right? Like there's I understand before co a lot of us were like we're we're you know we're skeptical of government and there's a long history of reasons to be skeptical of government but it's not something that people nec have necessarily studied understand or experienced at this point. Everybody's

experienced it >> right >> and there have been no corrective measures. Everything has gone the wrong way. You know, I've talked to a lot of people that have been involved with, you know, opposing COVID lockdowns and now we're looking at the energy lockdowns and they're in amazement like almost down to the it's like exactly four years ago we were talking about, you know, two weeks to stop the spread or whatever it is and then we're hearing that, you know, Iran in two weeks. We're talking about climate lockdowns and they're using the same language. This is what I did last, you know, last episode as I showed the comparison between the COVID and potential energy lockdowns. They're

actually they're using the same playbook. It's discouraging that they're able to use the same playbook. It's the same president, right? Like how stupid are we? How compliant are we if we're actually putting up with this? This is uh >> uh this is absolutely insane to be honest. But um but anyway, it doesn't stop there. So anyway, go ahead. >> Well, and don't you feel like a similar sense of chaos? You know, back then it was chaos. You didn't know what was going on. Right now with this whole Iran, Greenland, you know, you got Greenland, you got tariffs, you got Greenland, you got Canada, you got Venezuela, you got Iran. It's just chaos. You know what I mean? There's a

chaos component to this, too. That well, you really can't sort through it. I mean, I'm sensing that a lot right now. I mean, because I watch these news wires and it is just constant chaos and you don't know. It's like today, well, they're reporting both sides of it, Aaron. You know what I It's like report says Oman and it and Iran are working together on passage through the straight of Hormuz you know report says I mean it's just you know I mean let them speak for themselves we're speaking for both sides like it's mindboggling to me you know that that it's really concerning that we don't let the other side speak for themselves you know we're speaking for them and it's to create chaos right

especially in the markets like these markets are incredibly chaotic right Just like dur just like during COVID. Same kind of a thing. Just as chaotic. >> Well, they're not chaotic if you're Howard Lutnik. They're a guaranteed lock in. You know, somebody I was in a chat with with some people the other day and they were saying, "Well, you know, we're comparing different assets." And somebody says, "Well, name an asset that isn't speculative." And I said, "Whatever asset Howard Lutnick is holding isn't speculative." Um, but it's true that you're front running all of it. I mean, the prediction markets are insane. There are people that are that are placing massive

bets with 100% success rates on military moves. I mean I mean come on enough is enough. Um but that's what's going on. But but back to Ohio. Let's not I don't want to stop with your uh uh license photo being in a facial recognition system. Let's go into body cameras, dash cameras, street cameras, and social media monitoring. Uh there's something called shot spotter audio surveillance. automatic license plate readers all fed into one platform called Talon. T A Len. So the planned deployment is 35,000 users statewide. Every cop, every agency, one dashboard showing everything about everyone. Tact Talon tactical AIdriven law

enforcement network. So this this should make you happy. I don't know if you probably you're going to be demoralized about this even more coming into it. So the inputs are body cams, dash cams, car CCTV, social uh media. Uh there's it's all fused, all data is fused into one single platform um planned across the c across the state for law enforcement and the capabilities are real time tracking, predictive policing, predictive policing by the way. So, you know, >> think about minority report. Literally, this is what's going on. Pattern analysis and the vendor is likely Palunteer or similar. The contracts are actually opaque. So, this is a

um I mean, this is crazy how much Palunteers involved. So, we've got Clear View. We've got all of this like literally the entire state is it's the Ohio is the surveillance state of Palunteer. Uh zero public debate before deployment. So this is just this is just happening. It's called safeguard Ohio. Probably no one will talk about it. No one will debate it. No one will even recognize or know just like people don't know that their their photo license plate photo is already uh already in the system. So um so here we go. America's first AI powered suspicious activity reporting system. Upload video, audio, photos from your phone. AI

interrogates your submission with follow-up questions. Reports go directly to the terrorism analysis center. So they they're taking the idea of see something, say something, and to film everything and upload it to an AI. And so now you're an unpaid surveillance contractor. So this is uh next. So this is more of safeguard Ohio. This will be the first AI suspicious activity reporting system in the country. And uh so the AI uh interrogation automatic follow-up questions as I mentioned the destination is Ohio strategic analysis and information center. This is your uh terrorism fusion center in Ohio. And they're going to add gamification to encourage constant surveillance by the public.

Literally gifying getting people to surveil their neighbors. This is like Stazzy 2.0. Yeah, it's the worst the world's ever seen, right? Turning your own neighbors on on you. >> So, by the way, gets worse. Not done. This this goes one step uh deeper. I guess this uh the slide didn't uh render. Maybe he's got a little bit out of uh uh order here, but we have Columbus PD has already has Raven for drones in the air. Ohio State University has rooftop surveillance drones watching the campus. Hamilton County just approved 16 more. There's zero regulation, no oversight,

just drones. So, this is already operational. >> Well, and not only that, you know, I'm sure that the uh you know, you've seen the food delivery robots that drive around on campuses. >> Yep. >> I'm sure that they're monitoring everything, too. They've got the little, you know, monitor thing up above and they just sit there, you know, when they're not moving around, they just sit there dormant collecting data. I'm sure they're collecting activity as well. So, it's, you know, eyes above, eyes on the ground. >> Yep. And then, uh, not to be outdone, we also have flock safety cameras are now in 24 plus Ohio communities. Highway patrol has 37 mobile units and they all share data. school parking

lots, neighborhood entrance, all covered. The ACLU calls it mass surveillance, and of course, they're right, but that doesn't seem to be changing anything. So, I, you know, given all this, I mean, I guess there really isn't much of an ethos or or is there are there even opposition movements to this surveillance? Because I didn't even realize until researching this how bad this was. This really is like this is the biggest surveillance state in the country. All of these things that we're talking about here. >> Yeah. Well, and you wonder how bad it is in other states. Like I don't know. I mean, when I was in Indianapolis last, like I said last week, I mean, it was

terrible. There were cameras everywhere. Everywhere you looked up, there were cameras in the in the downtown area. I mean, you couldn't go a block without seeing four or five cameras. I mean, it wasn't even possible. So, I don't know if this is a Midwest thing. I I don't know how, you know, but it's um and it's probably just you don't I mean, you see the cameras, you know, they're there, right? Some most of the stuff. Um what you don't know is what they're doing with it and how they like you said, they're able to connect it based off of a lot of different Right. They call them, you know, when you're doing database stuff, you know, they call them what do they call them? Um the keys,

right? you know, you've got certain things that that are the connect points, the nodes, you know what I mean? And you try to connect it all back to that. So, you get images, images, images, and it knows where to go back to in the database. And this stuff must just be incredible how it works, how fast it is. Um, how it can track this stuff that fast. Like you said, this is all real time, right? It's real time availability for the police. >> Yep. Real time availability. Real time system. And then people snitching on each other. All the data fed into one system. This is this is insane. This is uh you know I've got to package this up better and get some of the video clips

that I can of of this actually in use. This is this is outright frightening. And again what I want to stress to everyone on this is that these implementations that are happening whether it's in Gaza or whether it's in Columbus, Ohio, they're using the same technology vendors. This technology is 100% transferable. The companies that are doing this are global companies. The Gaza Reconstruction Project is Oracle and Palunteer. Everything that we're talking about here with Ohio has Palunteer in it, interconnected with it or investing in it through through Peter Teal. But in the end, it's all connected. This is what Palunteer is about. Palunteer is about connecting all

of these systems. What happened with Doge is an API that connects all of these all of the data. It's not hard to connect this data at this point in time. This is no longer this is not a technical challenge at all. So all of this information so every time they do one of these rolls so whatever is being done in Ohio can easily be rolled out in any other state. This is the pro. This is why it is important to try to kick back uh it push back on this. You know when Nigeria rolled out of CBDC it wasn't liked. People were burning ATMs. people were rioting in the streets. Uh that the head of the central bank ended up being arrested for corruption. But people don't realize that they picked these

pilots, they picked these states, they pick these countries to be a case study to work out the kinks, to work out the bugs, to figure out what the response is, to figure out not only how the technology works, but how to market the technology. Uh it's kind of like the there are 17 countries that are rolling out uh digital ID at the same time and they're using the same technology vendor. They use the same PR firm. They use the same people to draft the language. And so, um, so this is downright scary because because the thing is, not only is this being done in Ohio, but it's being done by people that people associate with being pro- freedom

or pro- MAGA. VC rugged people on being libertarian. I know people personally in in New Hampshire that probably still would say he's good even though they they got rugged by Trump. I the top libertarian people here supported VC and they'd probably still defend this. They'd probably still come up with some mental gymnastics on why this is a good idea. And so this is the problem. So if red Ohio completely red Ohio with MA or excuse me with MAGA support pushes this then are other states going to turn it down? Who's going to turn this down? This is the challenge. I knew I said this was going to be the problem.

You people didn't like Claus Schwab, but you you throw a you know Patriot Act or Trump MAGA Act name on top of a bill. You call it a genius act. You call it a clarity act and all of a sudden it's we're innovating and we're pro- freedom. It's the same surveillance in every one of these cases. And so now we're going to get on to one of your fun topics. We've got somebody Casey Push for governor. Do you know who this is? Yep. We talked about him. I was gonna see if come on the show. Remember that? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Um Yeah, man. Maybe we should do that. May maybe this isn't how how in tune is this guy with this? Does he understand this? What's going on?

>> No, he doesn't have a clue. That's the problem. You know, that's why I was tr I was hoping to get him on the show to to help go through some of this stuff. um because it would give him some you know obviously he has an inclination has a little bit of backing not a lot a little bit but you know it's like you right you can go into the you know the New Hampshire Senate race and cause problems that's what this Casey pooch could do you know what I mean he could go in there and cause problems for this you know split the vote expose things shine a light on things and um but you know the people run at some point I'll get a hold of him and and you know talk through some of the stuff but it's very

tough Because, you know, the campaign staff, they don't want to hear any of this. They they're so far removed from understanding even the first beginning of this. You know, they're they don't you, you know what I mean? Like, they're so far from being able to even understand the first basic step of this. They just don't even care. you know, you got to get to him or, you know, or someone in his someone on his team that actually knows, you know, that's helping him um, you know, put together a campaign policy, right? >> Well, you know, I need to I need to do a song. Uh, I'm still trying to get this free Ian song done as we're as we're talking tonight because I want that to

be to get out. But there needs to be like a two to three or four uh minute song about this surveillance state in Ohio and that shows flock cameras that shows um, you know, actual footage of all of this stuff because to me this is terrifying. and to put all of it together, but but do it visually. Do it with a, you know, song or whatever that pushes this together because this because Ohio, as I said at the very outset of this, Ohio is the the uh the lead horse on this. And if they implement all of this stuff, it's coming to your state. And I know you're going to say, "Oh, yeah, your state's immune." I I it it's not. You know, New Hampshire fought Real ID and then they didn't. And

then at some point, right, uh it'll be because of Trump's AI policy. Remember, the policies on this are federal. So, this is how this stuff gets rolled out is through the federal government and through federal funding. And that's already being set up. So, you prove that it works here. You have an emergency and then all of a sudden, oh, we had whatever the emergency is. It's good thing how Ohio had the complete surveillance state to it. and they they've got predictive policing. So, we tie all this stuff in and we can stop terrorist attacks. We can stop, you know, you know, suicide bombers or whatever through surveillance cameras and by having these predictive modelings. And so, now there's an

emergency. Now, we're just going to take these contracts and roll them all out. This is not I mean, it's theoretical, but I mean, this is actually kind of standard operating procedure. This is how all of these things work. and Palunteer. It's the same vendors are positioned and these bills that are being written are being written in a way that only large companies can afford to comply. You're only going to have three or four AI companies that are going to be able to exist in the US under this under this model, maybe only two. Now, of course, this is why open- source models from China and everything else is important. This is why it's important to have self-custody AI. But, I mean, this

is this is horrifying. So, so let's talk about VC. of a vec um you know he has so let's talk about strive asset management I know you've looked into this >> yeah well let me add one thing to that Aaron before we do that like so what do you think the correlation is between you know or maybe correlation is the wrong word um but 196 data centers and all the cameras and all the surveillance and all that so it's I know this sounds like probably you know maybe a very simple connection But why are the data centers located in cities in people's backyards? You know, it it seems to me like that's how you get the real time, right? You're processing all these video images, all

the stuff. It's going through a database. It's going through like a lot of these a lot of these data centers, you can actually buy server time on them. >> But some of them you can't. Some of that stuff is reserved for who knows what. like we don't know, you know, how those servers are allocated, who's paying for those, where's this going, you know, who's and so as you see data centers come online, you know, this isn't necessarily about AI, right? This is could almost solely be about surveillance, right? I mean, does that make sense? Does that >> Well, yeah. I mean, presumably it is about surveillance. Remember, under a under a technocratic model, the endg

game of this is we no longer are making decisions. Look, Elon Musk talks about this. He says you won't have to work. He he discusses the idea that instead of going to prison, you'll have a robot following you around, but all of the decisions will be made by the AI. This is a a a it's being pitched as liberation, but the the AI will be making all of your decisions for you. all of the decisions, >> self-driving cars, everything else. I mean, all of the applications of this, but this but this these data centers are are taking your free will. That's what these are. They're free will extraction devices. >> Well, and at the beginning, you know, we talked about, you know, Ohio being a

test market. And you think about, okay, well, think about what Wexner was doing, right? He was selling merchandise to you know mostly to women but not necessarily down the road it became abbercrombie and fish so it was you know kids and so forth and you wonder how much data collection they get from that you know in marketing class they teach you you know all kinds of things right you know in the grocery store eye level is most important you know that's where everybody sees your stuff you want to pay for that prime real estate like extensive I mean I'm not talking about just extensive I'm talking about super extensive studies have been done on the mind and how it reacts to different

things. And so you have to wonder with when you take Victoria's Secrets and the sex, you know, component to that, right? You know, selling sex and and and you know, and obviously the connections to Epstein and, you know, and Wexter and the, you know, the whole, you know, pedophilia and all that stuff. I mean, which is which is becoming a very we thought that was the big issue there. Now it's becoming a small issue really relative to all this. That's nothing compared to this stuff. I mean I mean I don't want to say it's nothing but it's you know this is becoming a major component what we're seeing here and you wonder if this is all about you know Ohio being a test market them being able

to gather data on that test market and they it I mean it's been stated I don't know if you know this or not but I mean Ohio is like lit literally considered one of the primary test markets for a new product right someone's got a new product to roll out they go to Ohio put it on the shelves see how it does if it go does well then they roll it out, you know, they it's so it's, you know, and so the question is, you know, is that why this was chosen and why it's advanced at this point because it has always been a test market and they know how they they they had footing, right? They had groundwork laid for how they were going to roll this stuff out. >> Yep. >> So, you know, does that make sense? I

mean I there's a there's a bigger theme here that goes all the way back through Wexner and all this stuff it seems to me you know >> I mean there there is a theme again and the theme is there's a technocratic theme I mean David Rockefeller mentored Epstein Epstein was involved with the trilateral commission Epstein was in the middle of AI funding a lot of the science uh scientists involved and then you know was the co-president of of New Albany which is the the center of the hub of all of the AI data centers. I mean there's no again these aren't even I people haven't been talking about that because we still trying to go through the emails and go through the database

because the way you you go about searching it but this is why it's important to have people look at it from different segments but when you when you put all this together I mean again it is all about technocracy there is no doubt that the people in the mega group and so on and so forth these people were uh of of the view of being very pro technocracy And and so yeah, here we are. I I do think that it's interesting that Ohio turned out to be the uh the case study for this. And >> yeah, >> and now we have VC, you know, look, I you know, when you could make the argument that the whole bombing of of Gaza and the whole structure of this was designed to turn it into a technocratic city,

bomb these people and then redevelop the land, right? there there was no, you know, and to what degree was October the 7th allowed to happen intentionally. But I look at this now because I'm looking at my feed as we're talking and uh there's speculation now that we've started sending ground troops into Iran and Pete Hegith has just fired the uh the army top general because allegedly he wouldn't uh put boots on the ground. But when you look at what's going on, there are rumors. I don't know if these are true because I can't even validate all almost any of the stuff that's going on in the Middle East, but that uh that Iran has started to bomb data centers that uh there was a rumor that they

bombed uh Amazon or we're going to bomb an Amazon data center, Oracle data center. And I as I'm sitting around looking at this saying, is this also by design? Is this by design to bolster what's going on in Ohio? To bolster the uh the strategy here? Because Trump had a strategy and built an AI strategy around us out of national security building these data centers. It benefits his policy if you have uh Iran bombing uh these data centers and bombing these other countries. It's it's competitive advantage. If your viewpoint is you don't care about, you know, human lives and you're actually just trying to push a technocratic agenda, this is great. destroy their stuff with taxpayer money

and then profit on the reconstruction. But the reconstruction may happen in a different country. You don't care because you're you own the investments in the reconstruction, not the country. The United States doesn't benefit from from the reconstruction in Gaza. the uh Witoffs and the um and the Trump family and Oracle and Peter Teal u and Jared Kushner, they benefit. >> So, >> well, and don't forget, you know, I've always been I've always wondered this. That's a great point, Erin. You know, and let me back that up with this concept is that Black Rockck bought a company not that long ago. It's PICS or something like that. I forget. I'll look it up here in a second, but they bought

an infrastructure company not that long ago and they're, you know, they're very focused on these different things, you know, like data centers and they partnered up with, I think we even did a show at one point on something like this way back where, you know, they partnered up with um, you know, some other operations, but and they acquired a couple companies. So, they've been making a push in this, right? You know, and so, think about this. If you're in a war and you're destroying other people's stuff and it needs to get rebuilt, who's positioned really well for that? Black Rockck. I mean, they have an entity that does that. They these guys are geared up

and ready to rebuild that stuff. So, it this goes back to Guns and Butter, right? This is the same kind of a thing. I mean, it's just, you know, what you're saying fits. I mean, it fits with Black Rockck, right? They're geared up to do exactly what you just said. >> Yeah. No, they are. I mean this is and again this is common. This has been known how central banks work and this is the Rothschilds were talking about this centuries ago. Um you know they they profit on both sides of it. They literally don't care care what's going on. They're going to profit either way. It's not their money and it's not their lives that are on the line. And um so so now we have let's talk a little bit

about VC now who's running >> for governor. And you know, I mentioned earlier my my experiences with them and you study the background of them and and and again, you know, I what I haven't found and I guess I haven't really studied it is what is uh h how long is VC known Peter Teal? Because this seems like another sculpted thing, right? Like he like VC was not in politics at all. He went from, you know, effectively not being involved in politics at all to running for president. That is a strategy, right? Do I think that he thought he was going to win? I thought I I there's no way he thought he was going to win. I think he was running to ra to use the

advantage for short money to use the advantage of a presidential race and all the press that he got, all the earned media that he got to raise his profile in Ohio because it raises profile everywhere, but it's actually a pretty cheap uh cheap way to actually get brand name recognition. I think the play was always either Senate or uh governor of Ohio for the initial run, right? I mean, with a long longer term aspirations, but I I don't think he was running to win. >> Well, and they played it off. You know, Trump was in a lot of legal trouble and they thought, you know, the way that they played him off was, look, he's just hanging on the back end and if something

happens to Trump and he goes out, well, he's the next likely guy, you know what I mean? To just kind of slide into that spot, you know? I mean, that's the way I think the media and the right the right leaning media played it off. But I think you're right. I think what you're saying is more accurate. It may have been a stage deal the whole time just to get him in front of a global scene. Why? Because Ohio could become a major player, Aaron. In the next four years, Ohio could become more than what we think because of all the stuff that we're talking about tonight, you know, and who better to do that than JD Vance as vice president. Probably sliding into a presidential spot, right? You know,

again, doesn't mean anything. It's just a figurehead spot. We know who's running him. Teal, right? You know, Teal and whoever's running Teal. Same thing with Vivec, right? I mean, I I think Vivec would he's got how better, right? You got JD Vance, Vivc, you got a brotherhood there, you know, Ohio boys. You I mean it it's it's pretty crazy when you really think about it. Like I I think you're right that I think that this might be something where it was to get him get him prep the minds of people. Who is this guy? And and don't forget, you know, I mean, we've had this I've had this conversation with Patrick Wood a couple times, you know, he's like, what's the

connection with the IMAT corridor back to India, you know, I mean, part of that whole Gaza thing is the, you know, the pathway coming from India through the Middle East all the way out through the port of Hifa. Well, Vivec's an Indian guy, you know what I mean? Like it I know these seem like crazy connections, but you can't you can't negate them, right? You got JD Vance, his wife, Indian. You know, JD Vance made a trip to India. Vivec Indian, you know, even though he's an American Indian, he still has an Indian. So, it these this is how you predict things, right? You look for these kind of things and you figure if these guys have been put in that position for a specific for a

specific reason somewhere down the road. >> Well, I mean, look, Matt, let map this out strategically. So Yarvin gets involved and you know Teal supports Trump in 16 and then you know doesn't support him in 2020 but spends a lot of time between 16 uh and after 20 supporting candidates that were pro-Trump even if they lost in their primaries or lost in the general election. He made a lot of investments to curry favor amongst Trump so that when he is then goes to insert Vance he's, you know, he's looked like he's been on the team. He looks like he's been supporting all along. But the whole idea behind the policies and the whole idea of putting the PayPal mafia in and

and trying to strengthen and really pushing this idea of we need a strong executive branch and you know disregard the uh uh you know ask for uh forgiveness not permission and go in and remember they were going to cut the government and they were going to fire all these people and rein all of this stuff in. The real beneficiary of that was always intended to be JD Vance. So Trump comes in and and puts all strengthens even to the point of a sovereign wealth fund. You bring in Doge, you connect Palunteer. Now you have basically put in AI. Then you strengthen the role of the executive branch through all of this other stuff. And then you hand it to Peter Teal, I

mean, excuse me, to JD Vance. But in the mean in the meanwhile, you have VC becoming governor of Ohio. and VC turns Ohio into a model that you show for the rest of the country. And then after JD Vance, you have Vavc and VC uses as an example his ability to turn Ohio into a technocracy. So depending upon how long the continuation takes and how long it takes Vance to, you know, to push the technocracy further. I actually So here's something that might be interesting. Did you know that Ramaswani and Peter Teal first connected at Yale Law School around 2011? Huh? Who else did he connect at Yale Law School with? >> Yeah, JD Vance. How about that? Very interesting. So, um, so Ramasant Swami

attended an intimate lunch seminar hosted by Teal along with JD Vance. So, actually the same time. >> Yeah, >> the exact same lunch is when they met. Ramaswami has described the meeting as Teal uh very positive and Teal has since backed several of his businesses. So, I mean, you know, again, this is this is insanely, but I know that Teal has been strategic about this that the investments that he's made in these different Senate races over years, this is all being mapped out. And it's not to say that the only plan is JD Vance and then Vbec, he's actually placing other bets along the way, but it is Teal that's pushing the bets. And the end game of this is technocracy. And we are

seeing the end game. Like I actually think they're even outdoing their own expectations because as stunned as I was by this, I mean they they really have done an incredible job because they've managed to do this without any resistance at all for any of it. None. >> Well, and you know, we sit here and we talk about that and then you start drawing the parallels. They were there at the same time at the same lunch and you I mean Erin, you know, you're talking about like, you know, like the odds of something like that are that's that's those aren't coincidences, right? This that's not a coincidence. And you know, and again, if we go back to Max Fischer, you know, how does he find how

does he find a Wexner, right? How does Wexner find an Epstein? How does Rockefeller find an Epstein? You know, I mean, this is that same kind of a thing just pushed forward into modern day. You know, I mean, I think this is a similar kind of a feel. Peter Teal's selecting the people that he needs to roll out pretty much like just what you said. You know, JD Vance, perfect guy. IMAT corridor, Gaza, you know, your your correlation between Gaza and Ohio may not be really that far stretched. I mean, it could be like almost spoton because >> one's a global level and one's a state level, one's a federal level, right? I mean, you know, it's it's because it's the same players, right? It's the same

players involved in both both situations. >> I mean, they're pushing the same endgame. They're just using different tax they're using either federal taxes or they're using state taxes. But but but the point along the way is they're using taxpayer money to fund their technocracy. And they don't care about VC doesn't care about Ohio. JD Vance doesn't care about the United States that like none of the that like it's all scripted. But the but the thing that for me is that VC comes from nowhere and then he's playing to the libertarians in New Hampshire. He actually he scored early support from libertarians in New Hampshire. the guy who's pushing technocracy in Ohio was

early and you know if you are strategic about it and you're smart and by the way Peter Teal already had experience with Ron Paul Ron Paul did very well in New Hampshire in the primary you know how important New Hampshire is so so you're you're playing this in New Hampshire early strategically again it's all it's very strategic so they're pushing you know again multiple people but The thing that I'm trying to highlight right here is it is the I'm not saying that they've snowed. I don't know. You know, I think most libertarians probably don't like Peter Teal, but there is a strain that they're getting a strangle hold on it and and and they are trying to influence

influencers within the Libertarian party for VC and JD Vance. And that is not accidental. This is a you know, it's a completely scripted thing. You know, again, VC was positioned as this libertarian. There's nothing about his background that is actually libertarian, and there's nothing about his policies that are libertarian. But what but he's branded himself this way. And now he's pushing as he runs for governor, as I see it, his so his what is his big plan as he run for governor? AI powered data centers across the Ohio River Valley. So he's pitching that as part of his libertarian appeal. Just like Peter Teal is has snowed people into think I'm sorry. You can't run Palunteer and then

run IRS audits and be the libertarian guy. You lost you you you've lost that ability. You were able to people for a long time. Uh but that's not that's not the case. This stuff and I'm saying this now because this stuff has to be stopped. Like it cannot be continued for people to allow these people to claim that they're libertarian or or pro- free markets. And you cannot look at the data AI data center across the Ohio River Valley plan as being a promarket capitalism endeavor because it's not. It's a technocratic coup funded by taxpayers. >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think that's Well, that's the tagline right there. Technocratic coup funded by taxpayers.

>> Yeah. At all levels. at the town level, at the state level, and at the county level, and at the and at the at the federal level, and and at the whatever you want to call the board of peace. I I'm not even sure what the category of thing is that board of peace is. I mean, it's like a UN kind of thing, right? It's it's I I mean, I guess actually, is it an N is it an NGO? It it operates like an NGO. Um, did you see, by the way, I do have to add that uh Trump said that, you know, he wanted the US to put in $10 billion that would require congressional support, but last week he managed to siphon $1.5 billion from the State Department, which by the way is how NOS's were funded is through the

State Department. >> Like, there's nothing different here. Just so blatant. >> It's a direct transfer. I mean, it's just an absolute direct transfer right into the board of peace. >> Yeah. That's just that's it's that he's the chair of for life. I mean, come on. The UN doesn't even have a chair for life. >> Yeah, I know. I know. Well, and that probably, you know, that part's there to feed his ego, but you know, the board of purpose is the board of peace is serving its purpose, right? They clearly have a purpose for that. you can already see them staffing up with, you know, what 20,000 private forces. You know, I mean, you know, that's going to get employed

at some point, right? That's not a, you know, that is that will not be a peacekeeping mission. I can almost assure you when those 20,000 private forces get employed, whatever that means. I don't even know what that looks like. We don't have any videos of them training. We don't even know what they look again. The US is dropping out of NATO. how convenient, you know, like, right? >> Yeah. Again, I I would argue that a lot of these things were good. If if you said to me, "Well, getting out of the UN is great." Yeah, getting out of NATO is great. And then you look at the Board of Peace and you say, I this is just like Yarvin saying we're going to retire all government employees. And then you

figure out and replace it with Palunteer. This is like we're going to we're going to get out of the UN and we're get out of NATO. Then but then the board of the new thing has Tony Blair and the president of the World Bank and you know Jared Kushner and then some guy from Apollo that's under investigation for his ties to Epste. So it turns out that's actually not even better than the UN. But they do a great job of selling you that the thing that there is like the UN sucks. That that's true. Those things suck. But they don't tell you they never say what the replacement is. the and the implication is we're just going to get out of those things and what we're going to preserve our

sovereignty and we're not going to participate. This is how they got libertarians. This is how they got the right is by saying, "Well, yeah, I don't like the media. I don't like the academia. We we want to, you know, we've got to own the lils." And then it turns out that you're owning the libs and the censorship industrial complex involves getting rid of section 230 and putting the FTC in terms in charge of political bias. You didn't fix any problem. You just shifted control of it. And and uh it's very it's I I give them credit. It's really clever. It I mean it caught me off guard um because it's even faster than it they came up with something faster than the UN and

the WEF. Same outcome just different owners and it's um quite a thing. So do you want to talk about Strive Asset Management? What you learned? >> Yeah. Just one more thing on the back end of that. you know, think look at what's been going on when, you know, all the headlines are Trump saying, um, you know, nobody stepped up to help us. You know, we took the head off Iran and nobody stepped up to help us, right? I mean, you're just setting it up. You're you're basically pushing NATO off the cliff. You know, it it needed to be pushed off, but you can almost tell what's in coming in its wake, right? It's going to be this board of peace. see if in the next couple weeks, month,

we don't see border of peace making additional strategic moves. You know what I mean? In the displacement of NATO. I I can almost see it, right? You can almost feel it. >> Oh, yeah. >> Something to watch for. >> It is something to watch for. So, >> um >> Yep. So, on to Strive. So, um so Strive was a again it's kind of a um how would you classify this? It's a uh like a an anti-woke fund that was set up, you know, it's like if you if you step back, you know, what I don't know, into COVID window of time, you know, 2019, 2020, you know, this whole woke thing was building momentum and, you know, you see like, you know, the World Economic Forum and

you see, you know, the the Green New Deal and you see, you know, the the wokeism here, the wokeism there, right? All this stuff. this this clearly a a push a wave that was being pushed through society and this is what Strive was. Oh, well, here we are. We're anti-woke. So, come with us. You know, we're going to invest in anti-woke things. And it was a company that was set up in Columbus, like literally, I don't know, five miles from my house in a really nice little upand cominging area. And uh they did a huge real estate development there. And they took a whole floor of it for Strive Capital Management. And Vivec was the face on it. And the guy behind it was a

guy named Matt Cole. and he was an ex-calers guy, right? He ran the fixed income department for Kalpers, California pension and retirement system. And he has since come in there and um they've now relocated. They were in Columbus. They've located somewhere down to Texas. So, they're not here anymore. And Matt Cole has been pushing Bitcoin a lot lately in terms of now it's probably not going he's probably not speaking out on it very much but a couple months ago I don't know I'd say three I'd say three to six months ago he was still before Bitcoin started to have a you know have a big drop he was pushing that every corporation should use Bitcoin for their treasury right and

I remember sending you some stuff on that but it was it was a it was you everybody was on that bandwagon, right? You know, the Michael Sailor, you know, Bitcoin, Bitcoin, Bitcoin, right? All part of this thing. Another propaganda push, right? We can, you know, you've done plenty on Bitcoin. And, you know, I don't know if we want to go there or not, but but Strive's a pretty big holder of Bitcoin. I think 13,000 Bitcoin, maybe more. I don't know. That's a number that sticks in my head. >> Yep. But um but but the uh again the concept here was you know anti-woke Vivc Rama Swami was a figurehead for it right kind of fits with the whole theme here we're talking about you know and

then we get into the cast of characters that are involved in this and the different investors right so we can we can go through those if you want I don't know if you wanted to add anything to that before we do that >> no go ahead >> okay so obviously we have um you know it's backed by the same fantastic characters. Teal, you know, we've got Vance, Naria Capital, Lonsdale, and Lutnik are backing this. And so the um let me see what else did I have here on some notes here. Um, okay. So, actually, I think that's about all I have on on Strive is really um that um trying to think if there's anything else I can really think of there on Strive.

I think it's I I don't know if it What is a little funny is that um what's the other one? There's a couple of them that rhyme. What's the other one that rhymes with it? It's uh >> not um again these are all I don't know the teal involvement. Do you know the teal involvement in this Aaron? like how much of an influence I how much of an investment I know it's a fairly significant portion but I don't know the percentage of investment by teal into this other >> I don't know the whole breakdown but I am I am I didn't know lutnik was involved that that was not one of the original names that was uh discussed at least when I was looking at it before that's pretty fascinating >> yeah

so those are the backers those are the big backers teal Vance Vance through Naria Capital Right. So, we got to remember Naria. Nario's here's another thing about Naria that I wanted to add real quickly is that Naria had two locations in Ohio, a Columbus office and a Ca Cincinnati office. And I think that's to give him good coverage, right, across, you know, the state of Ohio. Um, and this Naria had some interesting investments. Rumble being one of them. Um, you know, uh, Strive being another big one in there. So very strategic investments, but it's one layer removed from teal, right? So it's easy. He can put money into Naria, you know, again, build up the name brand of

of Vance is being a VC, venture capital guy with Naria Capital, Naria Invest, and Strive. How convenient, right? You know, buddies with Vivc. And then we get, you know, the whole the backing with with Letic. So I'm sure through Caner, one of its offshoots is is where it came from, I'm sure. Yeah, I'm actually just I'm trying to pull up uh it looks like uh Strive's not doing very well, by the way. >> Yeah. >> Uh I mean year to date they're down 4.13 to 4.5%. One year they're down 16.7 to 18% three years. Um

or wait actually is that No, I don't know if that No, that's not negative. I guess they slightly outperform. Um I guess it's not too I was reading that as a negative sign. Um I don't know. I guess they're not they're slightly outperforming, but they're not really certainly spectacular. They are a Bitcoin focused treasury firm. Um you know, and again, you've got Howard Lutnick there pushing the Genius Act and you've got these guys pushing the Clarity Act. So I you know what what I what we should do we got to figure out a way to do this is look at the timing of all of these investments relative to the legislation that was pushed. Yeah. I I'm wondering I saw I one of the times I

had a conversation with VC was at this Bitcoin conference in uh Dallas, Texas and it was it was when he first unveiled his Bitcoin policy that this was uh it was actually the first time he had presented it. And so it would be interesting to kind of look at the flows of money and when people invested in things relative to when they actually pushed legislation um because I was obviously trying to talk to him about the hijacking of Bitcoin as well and and I didn't get the chance to talk to him thoroughly about this but it did during the election when the 2024 Bitcoin conference happened. I was working through various people to try to have conversations with everybody from

RFK to VC and everything else. And one of the things I've realized is that none of them have ever had access that I'm aware of to any of the information about the hijacking of Bitcoin. As far as I can tell, because I I've actually pinpointed where RFK and who RFK learned about Bitcoin from. I know who some of the people that were surrounding and everything else. I mean, none of these people have actually heard the alternative information or if they did hear it, they they would have had to have sought out the information. I always thought that was interesting going into that 2024 Bitcoin conference when they started talking about Bitcoin strategic reserves and things like that.

>> Well, so here's a couple key things. All right, on this on the timing at least a little bit. Caner Fitzgerald, led by Howard Lutnik, is a major investor and key partner in Strive Asset Management, a firm co-founded by Vivc. And uh Tanner led Strive's $30 million series B funding round with Lutnik providing strategic backing to Strive through anti-ESG mission. Um Strive funding Caner Fitzgerald led Strives that funding round in 2024 aimed at scaling its asset management platform which grew to over 1.6 billion in assets. Caner Fitzgerald and decent capital services, right? Each hold a seat on Strive's board of directors.

Um Howard Lutnik is an early supporter investor in Strive. Strive focus on maximizing shareholder value growth initiative. Strive launched with Strive launched with Strive Wealth Management following the fund round but following the funding round led by Caner. Caner's Fitzgerald operates as a leading private investment bank in spa. Right. So this is that strategic um vehicle that we talked about that um that uh um Chimath Polyhapatia was really one of the leaders on, right? He was really one of the real drivers of these spaxs. Again, they didn't really work that well. I don't know if you remember that. They were big for >> I've seen the the charts of where like

people lost 99% of their money in most of these investments. >> Yeah. And I I and even saw where he was smug about it where, you know, uh somebody was complaining about having lost a whole bunch of money and he's like, "Well, at least you have losses that you can, you know, did you take advantage of the losses on your taxes?" Like there's a kind of famous exchange on it, but like he was famously um did horribly with these specs. They're a laughing stock at this point. >> Yeah. Well, and you know, you wouldn't be surprised to see them bring it out as something else, right? rename it, repurpose it, figure out how to make them work better. You know, I mean, the

concept, you know, again, it's a special purpose acquisition company. So, you know, it's a it in concept, it's an efficient way to get capital somewhere, but, you know, yeah, I mean, we could go on for hours on that, but the point is, you know, Lutnik is a big investor and it was 2024 was the time frame on that one. So, you know, I would say, you know, that was late in the game really. I mean, Strive, I don't know when Strive started either. That was probably 2022, maybe 2023. When did Strive? Um, let me see if I can figure that out. when drive was first when drive started.

Huh? Here we go. So, it was founded in 2022. So, that makes sense by Vivic Ramaswami and Anson Ferric. Now, Anson Ferric, I think, has ties to Budweiser. He was a big like CEO at Budweiser if I'm not mistaken. But anyway, 2022 is when it was founded. When did it go public? Um, drive. Let's see here. Yeah. So, it went public in 20 No, merged in 2025 with asset entities. Huh. Yeah. I mean, it seems like it's struggling. It probably worth doing a little more research on this, you know, in terms of I don't know. Like, I have no idea who this company is. this um

um what's the name of this asset management asset entities incorporated I don't know who that is huh anyway so I think that's essentially strive the I don't know what the you know the what was their intent with this, Aaron? You know, what would what would you do with an entity like this? Like, I don't I still don't understand what Strive was meant to be. Um, >> well, Strive was originally positioned as an investment vehicle that would make investments and then push uh companies

against woke policies. It was pos it was originally positioned as an anti-Dei play which of course literally never happened but also didn't make sense because the amount of money that you would have to invest to influence a large public company relative to the amount of money that they raised like this whole thing was performative. This was just so that he could come out and say that he was anti-dei to try to appeal to that crowd because there that was uh he did not create something that would be able to have that kind of influence. It's not like they were buying investments that you know had board seats attached or had real any real activist value. But I remember Bill

Aman was a big supporter of VC which by the way shouldn't be a red flag for anyone. >> That's a major red flag. Yeah. the but the question is you know Naria Capital was a lost leader 100 million bucks you know okay have a little influence with it right have Naria Capital invest in you know a dozen things and give JD Vance a good you know another thing on his resume but I wouldn't say it's a loss leader but let's call it a neutral leader right it just it didn't have a lot of push same thing with stride is that just another thing to give you know some legitimacy and or did they have other intentions like it's a holding company for you know doing strategic

things with um you know 1.6 billion is a lot more than 100 million you know so 100 million went in an ara I'm not going to say they were looking to just throw that away for JD Vance but they were you know it wasn't that big of a strategic play strives a lot bigger I mean 1.6 six, you know, billion in asset center management and you have Lutnik involved and you have, you know, I mean, it's that's a, you know, it didn't work out. Whatever they were intending to do, doesn't seem like it worked out. Well, that's common with VC, but you know, it's I I remember analyzing his uh biotech company and when he was CEO, they never had any revenue. Like like the the the story about that,

you know, his success in big pharma like these products didn't work and then he didn't even have any revenue when he was running the company. Like it's it was it's actually crazy how little he actually did other than kind of I think scam people. when he made a lot of money and he didn't do it. He hardly had any employees when he did it. So, I forget the whole story behind that, but when he did make some money, it was a scam. So, yeah. So, the investors are Yeah. Peter Teal, Bill Aman, Howard Lutnik, um Joe Lansdale, Palunteer co-founder. Um you know, it's a real it's a real winner here. uh in terms of uh I can't >> red flashing light. >> I can't even read this stuff anymore. I

the again the only thing that the thing that is bothering me the most about all of this is that these people were positioned as libertarians and that were there were influential libertarians that bought it and that I what I wonder is if it still continues that they buy it. Um I mean at some point the luster has to start wearing off but we we'll see. We'll see what happens. We'll see. Um I I just don't like the fact that libertarians have been hijacked to push technocracy. Um and that that continues to happen and and and it's happening at a state level. I I I doubt VC is prancing about pitching his libertarian street cred in Ohio because I doubt that would be very

popular. So he was he was deliberately came in. I remember by storm. I'd never heard of the guy before. and all of a sudden he's being introduced at events promoted by big libertarians. And I'm like, okay, this this whole thing seems scripted. And now I actually want to look into how that whole that whole thing happened. to be honest, I I'm starting to again, I think what needs to happen is people need to start looking at um at your state level politicians and at your senators and and how some of this recruitment is happening and where the funding is coming from as it relates to technocratic firms and legislation that benefits technocratic firms that that needs to be mapped because I think

it's been very strategically pushed and I think, you know, at some point we're going to wake up and realize this has been going on for a long time. This has been a 10year play. >> Yeah. Well, and I look at this drive and I just I guess the way thing I walk away with, you know, for the takeaway is that how great would it have been for them to be sitting in this spot right now with JD Vance running for governor and strive having been a big success and you know now he's you know this validictorian of his class at St. St. Xavier, you know, Catholic school down in Cincinnati, you know, great entrepreneur, you know, Yale

Yale background, you know, ran for vice president or, you know, ran for president, you know, as a backup. Could have been a vice presidential candidate, was part of Doge, you know, I mean, and he's a great successful investor in the Strive, you know, um, I don't think it was just that, but now they don't have that story because Strive's not a success. I don't think I don't think people are buying it. I I remember being at an event in New Hampshire where I met him the first time and even my son was like, "This guy's bullshit." Or my daughter was like, "This guy's bullshit." Like, like I mean like he comes off as fake. The whole thing comes off. >> Well, do you remember the when he was

still in the presidential race? Remember the time when he was out riding around with the trash men? >> Yeah. >> Remember that clip? And he was like, "Let's get let's do it. Let's get out there and do it." You're like, "This guy's a fraud." I mean, you're just But that was a bad job. I It was a That was a joke. That was a clown show right there. I'm like, "This guy, he's disgusting." You know, like that's a fraud. Don't make fun of the trashmen like that. Don't treat them like that, Beck. You know what I mean? You know, that's not that was that was very unkind to the trashmen, you know, like the way he treated them. No, >> I mean, he's he's articulate. He's he's

actually great at giving speeches. I mean, I absolutely will give him that. but he comes off as completely disingenuous and I think that's why he's down 10 points in the polls. I think at the end of the day there are people that listen to him and say this is just I I that I I think his uh his eloquence and whatever does not resonate at the end of the day. I think people actually detect detect what it is. >> Um and you know he has a lot of holes in his story. Um but again, you know, it depends on how you're trying to run. Um he was obviously trying to do everything he could to support Trump. Um which was a political calculation just like Peter Teal uh did by supporting candidates

that were never going to win but made it ingratiated himself to Trump. like it's so the whole thing is you know again it's well it's the one thing about it is it's all well it's well played and there are multiple pieces um on the board that that are that are being moved and you know I mean I guess there there's not you know we've already talked about the and we've already talked about you know JD Vance again uh innovate Ohio advisory board same guy pushing mandatory digital ID this is this is JD Vance you track his stuff he's a puppet he just goes around getting put in various positions and with the Andy he ends up monetizing them through investment vehicles supported by

by Peter Teal. Uh but it's all technocracy. Everything that this guy pushes is technocracy. There's nothing uh nothing else about it. Um but he's actually >> that's why he was chosen. >> That's why he's chosen. Yeah. No, and they No, they scripted him. So, oh, lose weight, you know, take some of Empic, grow a beard, change your name, right? It's just like you know that the Truman show, you know, that whole thing. It's like this guy is just taking instructions. he's just an empty vessel. Uh it's like, oh well, he's from the Midwest, you know, seems like maybe he's he's got an Indian wife. He could appeal to this people, you know, whatever. He's just he's he's a he's a But he's one of

many that that Peter Teal has. This is the thing that people have to understand. It's like uh it's the investment isn't just in JD Vance. I mean, he's got 10 people. He's got 10 paths. Teal has multiple paths to the presidency, multiple paths to uh which ultimately is about pushing technocracy. It's not it's not even about oh controlling the presidency. It's about what's happening. It's about Palunteer getting control of all these systems. Palunteer being the operating system for the Pentagon. Palunteer connecting all the federal government databases. uh Palunteer and uh Androl. We didn't mention this, but we did talk about it on the Sovereign Wealth episode. Didn't

I read that they just got the Golden Dome contract? >> Yeah. >> What? $85 billion if I'm not mistaken. >> Yep. >> And so Andre and Palunteer have been get awarded. >> You can't make it up. Literally, you literally can't make it up. I mean, you know, we like we could have fallen out of our chairs 20 times tonight. I mean, you know that think about that, Erin. Think about what you just said. I mean, this is like this is like century level, you know, like findings. I mean, you know, you think Watergate. I mean, this is just right out in our face. Oh, yeah. We just gave Annel this$100 gold contract. Oh, yeah. You know who

just who just ran the Hill and Valley Conference? Oh, yeah. That was Peter Teal. Oh, yeah. Founders Fund. You know, oh, surprise. What a coincidence. >> Yeah. No, it's it's crazy again. And it is blatant and um and and even when you when you show people they they almost they don't care. And again, but there's a part of the the libertarian thing where people are trying to like like glorify this. Uh and I you know, I've hated cronyism. I when I was at the Atlas Society, I ran a crony awards contest and it almost seems like people have completely jumped the shark on being completely okay now with uh with cronyism and associating it with capitalism. It just it doesn't even

matter anymore. There's um you know, and Trump I you know said this several times. I and I I you know I haven't even been able the pro it doesn't even take that much effort now with AI to find out these things but it's like once you find out that the you know they've got drone investments in drone companies and they've got investments in nuclear things like like it's it's it is unprecedented when I talked about it a couple of weeks ago but it's I've only scratched the surface of it like Dick Cheney was probably previously the guy that people identified with the most as being like overt, right? Million dollars a year from Hallebertton, $35 billion worth of contracts or whatever. That's

horrendous. That is a drop in the bucket on this. And by the way, I didn't put it in here. You know, I and this is just it's unfortunate because you you know, most people don't have knowledge about this, but there are so many people that say, "Well, Trump didn't have to take the job and he donated his salary to the veterans causes." Do you know his net worth has almost tripled in the second term? He literally has made more money the second term while president than he has the entire life that he's had prior to this. And so people are like people like but he gave his money to the veterans. It's like this is the the first thing this guy did was rug his audience on memecoins to the tune of

$4.1 billion. That's how much people have lost on his meme coins. He did that the night before the inauguration and the whole thing has been a complete ripoff the entire time. But this is the level that we're at is that you you go out to the general public and people are like, well, you know, he sacrificed for his country. he didn't have to do this and he gave away, think about now the absurdity of him having given away his whatever $400,000 $450,000 salary to veterans in light of the fact that we're now beginning a ground war campaign in Iran. >> Yeah, it's chump change, right? Compared to what what you know Kushner's going to make, compared to what Witoff's going to

make, you know, compared to what his sons are going to make. I mean, they were, like you said, they're over there pushing they're over there pushing drones to the Saudis this week. Do you see that one? I think I sent it to you. I'm not sure. >> They're over there. They already they just took they they just got invested in this company and they're already over in this. Oh, looks like we uh temporarily lost Craig here. though cuz we'll we'll look into uh uh Saudi drones. I again it's the the the war profiteering is is insane. Um and what's what's insane about it is that usually war

profitering whether it's in times of LBJ or other administrations, usually the people that make money are people that support the candidate, not the actual candidate itself while they're in government. This is new level. This is kind of a new a new thing. I mean I mean he's brazen enough that at some point we're they're going to start Tomahawk missiles are going to be rebranded Trump missiles and they're going to be produced by a company run by the Trump sons. Like it's actually you know um that's actually the level that we're at. This is how crazy is. >> Well you saw remember the Pennsylvania governor I think it was a Pennsylvania governor remember when he was signing the missile? >> Yeah.

you know, Trump will get up there with a Sharpie and he'll just sign that with that big old DJ. I mean, so so again, this this goes it does go all the way all the way to the top because I you know, I went through for a while. It's kind of like, hey, the PayPal mafia kind of conspired. So they they they kind of uh you know, stroke Trump's ego, but then they came in and basically ran things. And then when you look at it, it's like now Trump came in and he's he's getting a disproportionate cut to the tune of like he'll probably quadruple his net worth in one term regardless. By the way, this increase of his net worth is while everyone else is getting absolutely crushed. So, I want

to go back to this whole idea that I I actually think you can see the same structure with the Gaza monetization as you're seeing with jobs Ohio uh and the uh public private partnership model in Ohio. I really think that there's something there. I think that this is a it's it is a playbook that works on multiple levels. And you have to understand and appreciate that technocracy does not care about sovereignty. It doesn't care about national boundaries. This is just a a way for uh technocrats to leverage the state and leverage taxpayers to push their agenda in the but in the end there's no Ohio there is no US it's one global technocracy and at this point when you tra trace where Palunteer is

internationally and where Oracle is internationally that's actually how it it already is they they have the cap you know capacity and surveillance systems in in multiple countries it's not confined to any one nation or any one state. So, um so that's it from New Albany to Gaza. Um it's just uh it's just one one gigantic mess. And I, you know, we you know, we have 1500 people tuned in. This one didn't get as many people. And and I know it's because there's technocratic Ohio and technocratic in the title. I probably should have uh should have framed it differently, but uh we've got to get people to focus on this technocracy issue. If if people

don't understand that it's a political ideology and people still believe that it's just we have the wrong politicians and don't understand conceptually what's going on that that we're going to get stuck and people are going to get sit around saying, "Well, who am I going to vote for next?" um uh you know at at any one of these levels and uh there's no >> how could we name this how could we do something like this again um you know covering this I don't know maybe more direct or more efficient but with a different name that's spicier you know what I mean but still come back to this stuff I mean I think that's the key you know to get to get the word out you know

I mean not like we're trying to play games with But, you know, this is important stuff. You know, people tune in. >> Well, well, I'll I'll do I'll do a song about I think the important part about doing this episode is to begin to lay the the framework. One thing that I'm noticing that that's been helpful and that has actually helped to build momentum in the stuff that I'm doing is that the stuff that I've been saying over the past three and a half years has started to come true. So the stuff that didn't. So it's good to have a like a placehold placeholder here. It's good to have done this and to to have said I haven't heard anybody else I have not heard anybody really talk about the

blueprint for technocracy, you know, at the at the state and local level or even compare that to what's going on in Gaza and and connect the dots of the same players monetizing it. I this is kind of a new a new point and so uh so we'll we certainly be able to come back to it and I think we'll be able to come back to it as now that this is here we'll be able to play clips from it in the future as some of this stuff moves forward to me the takeaway and this is actually you know each week we cover a lot of ground and there's a lot of research done so I mean I I know I learn a lot and probably you do as well preparing for these things my big takeaway from this is the state of the surveillance

state in Ohio. I did not realize all of that stuff with the driver's licenses and like it's >> it's actually horrifying. So to me, you know, a video of, you know, short short clip or a collage of actual footage of the surveillance in action plus a song I just or something like that to because there are two ways of looking at this. You know, JD Vance and Peter Teal and VC want to make this a case study that they can roll out and expand. This should be our case study on the dystopian side of what people should not want to become. We need to be portraying that this is this is the this is the opposite of what we want, right? And depending upon how

the positioning works, the fact that we haven't heard about all of these different pieces put together, but what it means in terms of surveillance, you know, a system now where people are gamified and rewarded for surveilling their uh their neighbors and that information going into a centralized database that's tied to all of this other stuff. I mean, it is stazzy u it's stazzy with real time data uh and and it's happening right right now. So, to me, it's kind of like a, you know, figuring out a way to put that into like two minutes. Um, you know, the first chapter of my book, The Final Countdown, I I painted this grim picture of of, you know, what the world might look like with these systems

that we have right now. But, you know, I remember one of the sections in there that was even hard to write was about the maid program in Canada. I'll tell you if you talk about the what I wrote about the maid program in 2020 >> spot on >> compared to what it is today it outstripped even what the worst case trend is that you would think and now Canada is like the number one or organ harvesting uh country in the world and like this is like the really high up on the leading cause of death in Canada and everything else and it's and they've they've stripped all of the safeguards and so now you can like kind of go in and get it on demand and and it's being used for uh I remember even at the time

when I was researching it there were people that were opting for uh the maid program because they couldn't afford rents due to co policy um and none of that has improved. So, in any event, well, yeah, we we'll we will refer to this. Um, but I, you know, I wanted people to get a get a sense of this, too. There's so much that we went through, but but there's also, by the way, this, you know, not to extend this too much longer, but there's a banking network component of this, >> uh, that we haven't discussed. So you have John Kesler uh bank one which becomes JP Morgan Chase Les Wexner connected to BCCI the Pakistani intelligence bank. Jeffrey Epstein is

Wexner's money manager and now Arabore which is the new Tealbacked financial structure. So yeah we didn't really talk about that too much. We we referenced it but but that's a big thing too and that's in Ohio. >> Yeah. Well, BCCI is not, but the uh but yeah, Rebore is in in Ohio, and that's a uh it's a very quirky thing. Um I did have a couple notes on that. Let me just go through this, I think. Um Um Well, I tell you, let's come back and do that sometime. I'd love to do a I'd love to do something on this BCCI. And um we could tie that in with something else. The um

when you really get into this and well, we're going to get some turnover, too. you know, the uh when you look through the Epstein emails and you see guys like Jess Staley and I think Mary Erdos, I think she's next in line after Jamie Diamond. I mean, these people were in all those all those Epstein emails, right? They were communicating with him, communicating with him regularly. So, that opens up a whole can of worms. You know, you've got Jess Daily, I think, has since moved on to I can't remember where else. Um, uh, oh, I I can't remember what bank it was. Credit Credit Swiss, maybe. I'm not

sure. Um, but Mary Erdos is still in place. I mean, she's probably going to take the role of of Jamie Diamond. I mean, you're talking about like one of the biggest banks and the lady who was about ready to take over was connected to Jeffrey Epstein multiple times in very direct conversation like they weren't like, "Oh, let me make an introduction to Jeffrey Epstein." I mean, they were in like they were talking about like, you know, like like friends would talk, you know, it was pretty basic level things. And so, we get into the BCCI, right? and how Epstein was using that and how they were using options trades and how they were running money through the oil industry

and think about what was going on, you know, back to Kissinger, you know, back to Max Fiser, you know, and this movement of um, you know, you know, the the dollar, right, in that 70s to 80s era, you know, you know, it was still a transition to the petro dollar, you know, I mean, it didn't just happen overnight. It was a, you know, it was a process, right? And and I don't know if we've talked about this much either, but that's where I think we're at is we're transitioning out of the petro dollar into the stable coin, right, which is going to lead to the tokenization. So you know this BCCI is important because it's kind of like looking at Max Fiser looking the flow through into you know

Epstein and Wexner looking at the flow from Epstein and Wexner to Teal you know into this whole group that's taking place and taking over their structure in Ohio. It's a similar kind of a thing with BCCI, Safari Club, you know, Zodiac Club, all these characters, right? That L then leads into, you know, the petro dollar, you know, into the banking system. Like there's a whole there's a whole structure of things that could be done. So, and the reason we would do that is so that we understand what they're going to do with a Rebore Bank so that we're ready for it and as they start rolling this out because this is going to happen. I mean, in the next three to six months, we're going to

start hearing things on Aribore Bank, I'm sure, right? Because it's in place and it goes along with Anderero, right? They they put this in place for a reason. So, we're going to start seeing that roll out. We're going to start seeing headlines on it. And it's nice if you understand like the history of how they use this stuff before, how it's gotten to this place so that as you see the headlines come out, you know, you're ready for it, you know, and you can actually do something with it and turn it into knowledge that people can do something with. Does that make sense? >> It does. I mean related I want don't want to go into it too much now but BCCI so u the Trump family stable coin USD1

is now being pushed $5 billion worth in Pakistan. Um and there are discussions about is this going to be used the kind of in the same way. But I I don't want to necessarily go down the rabbit hole there. But it did occur to me that it's pretty odd that one of USD1's biggest applications is Pakistan. That that is not a readily apparent application. Um but you know I I I have to do a real deep dive on USD1. I ignored it for a while because I just thought, oh it's like you know usually when the Trump family gets involved in something they they screw it up, right? It's like that they're not they don't really have any historical success rate with technology products or actually a success rate in

getting into any other markets outside of real estate. They usually experience so I I actually kind of discounted their DeFi but uh you know but you never know but yeah so we have so yeah we'll get we'll get back to that. There's a whole a whole bunch to explore there. Uh I you know just on the to to close it on a positive note you know again the solutions to all of this and and I'm having this conversation with everybody again solution has always been to exit the system. The most important thing to do is actually ditch the dollar and I cannot stress this enough because again we're go I I'm talking to a lot of people that thought that that Trump and the Avengers were going to save this and

I I think everybody's now realizing that that's not going to happen. But now we're actually starting to get to the point where people are realizing not only did we not stop things, but we probably lost three years. And and this is not a statement that we should have voted for Camala. There's no way out of this. The problem is there was never any way out of this. We have to build these alternative systems. But now we've actually lost time even for implementing that. So ditching the dollar is key for all of us because we we sit and talk about, you know, who's going to control this, who's going to control this. All of this is based on the dollar and all of these stable coins and tokenization

of assets. All of this is is rooted in in this system. That's the only way to slow down technocracy is to not be controlled by their money. I think the other part is is to to continue to connect the dots. I you know there's um this is the case study. I mean again going I'm horrified tonight and I do want to package up a little bit more exactly how robust the infrastructure is for surveillance today like not even in the future and let people know this cuz a lot of times I'm surprised and a lot of times I'm kind of on the cutting edge of either talking about CBDC's or stable coins or digital IDs. This this is at least as far as I know by far peak surveillance in the United States. This

the going through this today is like when I was writing my book three and a half years ago and researching the provinces in China that were implementing social credit systems and AI surveillance. It actually felt this feels actually somewhat similar. And so that does shock people. Um I you know a a lot of people again still have this mistaken view about the level of freedom that we have here. But I think you can start drawing actual comparisons to China between Ohio and China. May maybe that'll be a way to to wake people up a little bit. But more importantly, I think there is something here to understand and to try to track regarding Teal's infiltration of uh state politics

and to and to look at as a chess board and see if we can identify the different players and pieces that he has in place because I do think he's probably maybe there's somebody behind him, but I actually think he's he is actually playing if anyone's playing 5D chess, it's Peter Teal. So we ought to start looking at the various moves and in that regard. So if you're listening to this based on your state or country um so here are some things to look for. What uh agencies are being you know privatized but through these public private partnerships. What is the status of digital ID systems? What's going on in your state with data center deals? And what are the tax incentives? What

are the rebates? what are all of the deals? What are all of the sweeteners for that? Because it's important to document that. And again, my my argument is because what what often happens and this is whether it's with like cell towers or anything else. There is, by the way, the health component of it, too. there was that that NBC4 thing that I don't want to discount that but one of the the ways I've seen this happen with cell towers at a town council meeting you know like Verizon will come in and they'll bring in a whole bunch of lawyers and they'll like they'll discount they'll bring in all these experts to try to downplay the health risk aspect of it I I think that if

you're trying to stop a data center you should do it on the basis of cronyism and the failure of these kinds of incentives and the fact that it's not free market. You've got to you've got to not let them use the the language that this is good for the economy. It's not good for the economy. And you can actually demonstrate this and chart this kind of stuff out. The other thing is look at AI surveillance. This AI surveillance, you know, the fact that this snuck in in 2013 starting with driver's licenses, people are starting to talk about flock cameras, but there are more elements. Is Clear View AI uh involved at your state level? what's going on at the city level, who's fund,

if there are these cameras, a lot of these cameras and things get put in through incentives and programs that are paid by third outside parties that are non-governmental. So, uh, take a look at that and examine that and then and then see if anything is going on with smart cities like in Columbus with the the grants and everything that were put in place uh to try to, you know, basically get rid of uh of driving uh cars and to move out of out of that model. Look to see if there are any of these kinds of grants. The grants are key because the grants come from weird sources. um and that sometimes they come from international sources, sometimes they come from corporate sources, whatever it

happens to be. And uh it's really easy because people don't pay attention to local politics, but it's a really good headline. Like for Columbus, if you get a $50 million grant and you know people will celebrate this and you don't realize that what you're doing is you're you know using the grant as a test pilot to implement a digital prison globally using your city as an example. So look at that and examine that. So this is a good thing to start out and you know you know comment or whatever and start sharing information on that and maybe we could start tracking uh what's going on with uh with technocracy at the local and state level in addition to just you know focusing on what's going on

federally or or internationally. So um you know I'd say that so understand exit and build um would be my you know my my two cents. Yep. Well, it makes sense. You know, at first it was hard for me to understand and and uh accept, but you know, when you talked about building parallel system and then, you know, showed Zeno and Freedom Dollar and it took a little while, but then it sunk in and I'm like, look, that's the only way to win this. You you know, it doesn't take a lot of people either. It takes about three three to 5% of the people actually, you know, creating commerce on a on a different parallel system that they can't impact. One, it does a couple things. One, you're not likely to get

your head chopped off because you're not the only one sticking your head up, so it's a little harder for them to track you down. Two, you know, you can sustain it. You know, there's, you know, you can get three to 5% of commerce taking place on something like that. It really does make a hit on the rest of the economy. And so, you know, I think that is the solution. The problem is we just got to get something built. You know what I mean? And then hopefully something else and something else and something else and pretty soon we look look like New Albany but in the other way we're putting up, you know, commerce sites all over the place on Zeno instead of instead of, you know, monstrous, you

know, AI facilities, you know, on the in the old farm ground. So, >> yeah. No, I mean this is uh and it's tough and again it's a balancing act but uh and there's also an appreciation. Look, the problem is we're getting into the point now which is also by design which is where people um are struggling to survive. I mean I there was some ridiculous politician I don't even remember what state it might have been Ohio today. It was Ohio. there there was some uh US rep who basically was saying you know maybe you should just get another job get an extra job or something it was some comment but the truth is this is how they get you people are all struggling the actual inflation

is real food beef is at an all-time high we had the the agriculture episode and everything else but I mean I I can't going out to eat is ridiculous I mean we had spring break with the kids and everything else and it seems like everywhere we went nobody drinks alcohol and like it was like $200 for every meal and we weren't getting like, you know, Wagu beef or something. Um, but even at grocery stores and everything else and so people people get to the point where they're fighting for survival, so they don't even have enough time to look into this. And so I don't blame people for that. There's going to be a continuum of people. So I I don't expect these ideas

are necessarily going to hit mass mass right away, but we got to consolidate these early adopters. And I am going to do my part to push the people that believed in the Avengers strategy. I'm going to be spending a lot of time explaining to them that the problem, yes, that was wrong. And you could have figured out that was wrong if you did some homework, but that the problem isn't the individuals, it's the process. And you went through the process. People I I've given talks about America 1.0 is over. People didn't want to believe it. You now have to accept it. There's no there's no more time for And I've been sitting around waiting for a lot of people to realize this. And there

are a lot of people that didn't want me to be right or thought that it was um uh you know, whatever. It was too extreme, but did probably just didn't want to entertain it, didn't want to believe it. Well, I mean, I wasn't guessing. I've outlined the you know, the mechanics of it. Um and also studied other, you know, nations and empires and everything else. There's nothing. We're not in we're in a not in a unique situation. We're failing in a pretty predictable way. um and then trying to hold on to that. It doesn't have to be it's not blackpilled. Once you release the energy from that, you can actually start building other things. But now is not now is the time

is pe because people are realizing they got completely rugged on Trump. Now is the time for them to not get excited about Rubio or think that RFK is going to run for president and fix things. I'm gonna because if you thought I was brutal before, I am going to be absolutely ruthless this time around because we don't have time. You have to realize there are psychopaths. The clip you play, there are 150 people that control things. They're psychopaths. They actually don't care. They will bomb and kill 70,000 people and level 90% of the building so that they can build hotels that have surveillance systems. And these aren't evil people that are, you know, hiding out in, you know, in in

unknown locations. It's it's the president of the United States and his family. Okay? Those are the bad guys. Accept it and then move on. And what you can do about it is you can start, you know, building alternative systems and say, "Look, I'm not going to continue to participate in believing that this is a legitimate system." So that's my little rant. Well, it's like you said, what was it last time you put out a number? I I think it was like 490 out of 540 schools took direct hits in Gaza. You know, that's not an accident. We have, right? Remember that statistic? >> Oh. Oh, yeah. >> It was it was like I mean it was like 80% or 90% were direct hits, you know.

>> It was over it was over 90% for hospitals and over 90% for schools. the I mean and you know like there's some point at which it's like well this is where the terrorists hide or whatever g guess you know what you could either buy that argument or it looks a lot more likely that these guys that set up a multibillion dollar fund and put together a presentation with Oracle and USD1 and everything else. It looks a lot more like this was a deliberate intention to demolish a place to rebuild. What is more likely? Well, and it's gets even worse when you look at the facts because, you know, we have Wickoff saying, I mean, we should have pulled that clip. You know, he says

it's part of a master plan. It's two years it's been a master plan. I mean, you you you can't he and Kushner are the ones negotiating all this stuff. I mean, at what point, you know, look, it's hard to accept, but it's the reality of it, you know, and um you we have precisiong guided missiles. I mean, here's the thing. Trump promotes how great it is that, you know, Iran can put up a missile and we can shoot it down out of the air, you know? I mean, you're talking about, you know, like incredible precision. You're not going to accidentally hit 90% of schools with something that's that it's just right. It doesn't add up, you know. I mean, you don't hit 90% or more of hospitals and

schools, but you're able to knock down a missile, you know, traveling at Mach one or Mach 2 with a missile. I mean, you're talking about in incredibly complicated math, you know, and and tools and skills to knock something out of the air moving that fast, you know, and your reaction time has to be instantaneous, right? So, the point is it it's not a coincidence. And we were that's the thing I have to tell myself all the time like Craig this we're past the point of coincidences you know it's just there's too many things you can't you know this this is a master plan is a >> master or or the idea that Palunteer who was involved with the uh intelligence that uh destroyed and doubletapped the

the Iranian school that 170 uh school kids girls died. Their claim was it was outofdate information. There's a zero% chance that that was outofdate information. Google maps had more in accurate information and and I do Palunteer is not incompetent and that was not an accident. they killed them on purpose and you know whatever the reason was it it's you know whether it was some of the leaders kids or whatever it I I don't know what the justification was or just for the horror of it because at some point you have to realize that we're the terrorist organization in this situation which is also hard for people to grasp but when you use the dollar you're murdering

these kids like this is this is actually true like there was no self-defense aspect in here we were not attacked there was no credible threat and we've murdered children. That just, you know, I this is why it's kind of like that, well, they responded and people are outraged that they responded. How would you feel if somebody, you know, if somebody killed your daughter in school? What would your reaction be? Oh, brush it off. They're patriot. I mean, you know, the whole thing is is absurd. But yeah, you have to we have to acknowledge that these people are don't have a lot of regard for human life. They don't and they actually don't have regard for free will. So for those people that think,

well, Peter Teal, well, it's, you know, it's a merit-based system and so, you know, we should let these philosopher kings get to the get to the top. I'm sorry. I've seen this guy's activities. I saw what he did in the Hulk Hogan trial, you know, bankrolling Hulk Hogan. I've seen that, you know, the the situation with his boyfriend who died under mysterious circumstances. This guy, I don't care if he's efficient at technology, he's morally bankrupt. And this is not a guy that should be making decisions about whether or not you can make decisions regardless of how much h how efficient he is or effective he is at making money. >> So >> well and they're all cut from the same

cloth because we didn't get into tonight the I mean I'd say we could have covered 10 people who got murdered you know on the back of the Epstein Wexner just in Ohio. I mean just you know there's 10 murders that occurred. I mean, you can call them hangings, suicides, whatever you want to, whatever, you know, makes you feel good. But the bottom line is these people needed to get they needed to get rid of them and they got rid of them. You know, it's so, but you know, it's not a coincidence, you know. It's not a coincidence. >> Well, no. I mean, so people that will start wars to level uh a country so that they can build something at some point. You have to realize when if they're

going to do that then you know the other horrors don't don't seem there's no moral compass and it's hard to get around I you know as much as I can I can say that I understand it intellectually I don't actually get it but like I still get surprised by it there's never a point where it m because it doesn't make sense so I know it happens but it doesn't make sense it actually doesn't make sense to me that it happens but it but it does and we have to realize that very quickly because the it is going fast. I mean, like Gaza and, you know, and Ohio and and everywhere else. And hopefully more people will start researching their states cuz you're going to find it. You're going to find

it all over the place once you start looking for it. And then we've got to map it out. And then we have to start calling this stuff out. We have to call out the the the fake libertarianism has got to go. And actually, the people that are are trying to hijack libertarianism with it, whether they know or not, they may be plants. I don't know. I don't know how scripted this is, but it seems like there are specific people that that that come into an area new and assume leadership roles that all of a sudden are pushing technocracy. And it's not hard to hijack organizations and it's certainly not hard to hijack a libertarian organization because these things are usually the least organized,

but um it's problematic. uh because o only because not because libertarians mean anything from a political perspective but you at least when you don't have people speaking the truth anymore when somehow it's gotten muddled where you're pushing I mean it's kind of like you know we we come to find out later that um that fizer or not fizer but that that big pharma has been bankrolling ko institute and and reason uh you you have uh uh Donald Rumsfeld's old company, a trust that's one of the biggest, it continues to be the largest supporter of Reason magazine for years. So then you wonder why when COVID happens, they come out pro- vaccine. And it's always been this weird thing where

it's like, yeah, okay, you're supposed to be about reason and science, but yet you can kind of see that it's also cronyism, but they always er on the side of big pharma. Then you turn out turns out that's where the money is. And so we just have to call all this stuff out. We have to call out all the bad actors. Stuff like Brock Pierce allowed being able to continue to exist uh and infiltrate more things. The guy's trying to infiltrate Maha. He's infiltrated, you know, running as an independent. He's he spends time at Mara Lago actively now. He spends time there. He's networking with these people today. And I go to these conferences like I'm going to these crypto conferences that he used

to speak at and I'm speaking out against him. And so no one's defended him. The only thing that's happened so far is more people have come up to me and shared more stories that make the thing even worse. But I'm like, "Okay, well, you've known this guy for 10 years and you've known this and what? You just continue to let him do keynote speeches and nobody's going to talk about this?" This is how like Epstein happens because no one's willing to say anything about it. It doesn't it doesn't take much to actually speak up to stop this stuff. But why are people listening to Steve Bannon? Why is that a thing? I love the CPAC thing. The fact that that thing was a ghost town, but I mean at

some point we've got to stop voluntarily associating with people. I'm not suggesting, you know, in some of these cases, you know, criminal or other bad activities are involved, but we've got to stop associating with and allowing this stuff to happen and giving these people platforms voluntarily. >> Yep. Well, and you know, I've I've sent you a couple things this week. You know, from a market perspective, it's it's so hard to explain to people that, you know, this stock market rally we saw the other day, they got hosed. People got hosed in their 401ks by the stock market going up and they don't and you know, that's a hard concept to get out to people. But it that's how you know

we're up against a tough curve because but but tonight I think we I think we did our job right. I think we showed Ohio's a problem. I think we showed the pattern. I think we showed plenty of dots to connect. You know on the markets it's a lot harder and that's always a struggle I have to deal with because it's hard to show people because it's sophisticated right? I mean the theft in the financial markets is very sophisticated. It's very hard. I've been watching it for 30 years, so I see this stuff and I don't know how to communicate it to people with an analogy, you know? I mean, I can't say, you know, like it's just hard to come up with the analogies on it, but it's going

on. I mean, it is and it and it's going on at the highest levels. I mean, Trump's two true social post was clearly clearly, you know, a gate to rip off the world for hundreds of billions of dollars, you know, and so it it you can't deny it after a while, you know, and so anyway, >> that's all I've got, Aaron. >> Keep plugging away. >> I I appreciate it. Thank you for uh uh staying on this. I think this is probably a record now at this point. We didn't even open up the Q&A. It's five hours. And I apologize, guys. I'm not I'm not uh I'm not doing it. But what I will do is I'm going to play uh out here. Hold on me. I've got a new free Ian video and I know it's wrong because

it's missing a couple of segments, but I'm going to play it anyway because I said I would and I'm going to work on it and try to get it out in a fuller, more polished sense tomorrow, but again, I encourage everybody to go to free now.org and and sign the petition. Uh Ian was one of the first victims of the war on crypto targeted by Biden um and made to be an example uh because he was promoting freedom and voluntary exchange and was anti-war. So it's a travesty that he's there. And I' I've just learned today that he's he's actually in uh he's in prison. He's in Pennsylvania and he's actually very sick. So, uh, hoping he gets better and but more importantly hoping he, uh, gets out and

gets, you know, pardoned or or released, um, because he's really the first one in all of this. And unfortunately, you know, he, so I was on uh, Free Talk Live with him before he was even sentenced. And so like he so he was he was like the first and then and then we had Roger Ver and then we had Roman Storm and then William Hill and then Kony Rodriguez and then Roman Sterling off and now Ray Yousef. Uh this is this has been a uh uh frustrating aspect of this because all I've been trying to do is warn people about technocracy and promote alternatives. And we talk about you know the difficulty in promoting the alternatives. I'll tell you one of the problems with promoting the alternatives

is some of the top people in the world at this have been thrown in prison or they're you know facing prison time or they're spending all of their time instead of building you know Ray Yousef uh built no one's which is a peer-to-peer crypto platform uh in the global south and in Africa that was taking off really popular and by the way he was a big threat to Binance a big threat to big players and and he a big threat to corrupt governments and Um and then he got nabbed. And so so this this is real. This is one of the hindrances that we've had. This is why it's so important uh that uh the war on crypto ends for for everyone, but but specifically for the ones that I' I've been calling out that

I know very well that I've vetted and or personally know. And I'd start with Ian Freeman on that list. So with that said, have a good night and uh here's the first premiere of the Free Ian song. >> Thanks, Aaron. Oh, six in Morning.

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