Enemies of the State Rebroadcast
Episode 17 of Season 3
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if it cages its innovators Free Ed Freeman Free Roger Ver Free Roman Sterling Gough Free Roman Storm Free Keon Free William Free Ray Free Ed Freeman Free
Roger Ver Free Roman Sterling Gough Free Roman Storm Free Keon Free William, free Ray. And the war will lose, and the war will lose. The code outlives the warden. The code outlives the warden. Pardon them all, pardon them all, pardon them all. Gather round lads Gather round lasses
I've a tale of the commerce man's crooked asses. Howard wrote the number four times too high. Point to five when the truth was a mile away in the sky. His boy at the counter counter with a grin. Buying up the refund rights while the paper was thin, twenty cents on the dollar. Daddy says hold while the son's in the back room raking in the gold. Lovely, rode it four times high Lovely, watched the country cry Brandon, bought the rights on the slide Cantor, took the payday pie Raise a glass and move your money Move your money,
move your money Raise a glass and move your money To the carnival goodbye Boraskin wrote the letter, Whedon wrote another, Warren lit the fire, Ackman pulled the cover, Wired showed the memo, The Scholar showed the math, The Supreme Court rang the bell, Six to three for the wrath. well one hundred eighty billion to the people they come but the canter boys were waiting when the deal was done transferred to the suns the divestiture of sham the house was still a house and the crowd
still a scam to the carnival goodbye They'll tell you it was legal They'll tell you it was clean They'll tell you divestiture Was everything it seemed But the platform's still the same And the family's still the name And the terminal still clears Let the Cantor boys arrange I pulled my money from the bank last Tuesday
Put it in a credit union down the bay Buying bread from the baker where the names are owners. Coffee down in Zano where the grid ain't theirs. Neighbor runs the mesh. Co-op runs the bread. Building parallel systems while the carnival is dead. Raise a pint to the exit. Raise a pint to the door. Howard keeps the carnival. I won't be there no more. Love Nick wrote it four times high Love Nick watched the country cry Brandon bought the rights on the sly Cantor took the payday pie Raise a glass and move your money Move your money,
move your money Raise a glass and move your money To the carnival, goodbye! Hey! Lusty! Lusty! Hey! Bye! Hey! Move your money! Lusty! Goodbye! Lusty! Goodbye!
Six in the morning, levered street Rifles in the hall, tank through the front door He fed the meters, saved the town. Robin Hood King. Twenty years behind the microphone. First voice to say the word. Bitcoin. Build a church in New Hampshire.
An orphanage in Uganda. Forbes calls town a crypto mecca. They call him a criminal He sent an undercover fake Who said he dealt in heroin Ian said no, turned him away The Fed bought it anyway And called it evidence Free Ian Freeman Free you can send your tanks at dawn but the signal doesn't stop
You can send your tanks at dawn, but the signal doesn't stop. The judge threw out the laundering. Not enough evidence. Ninety six months anyway. Laws written before Bitcoin existed. Keon Rodriguez, Christmas Eve. William Hill, four years. Roman Storm, retrial in the fall.
Ray Youssef, two hundred dollars. Sterling Goff, twelve years. Roger Ver, fifty million in a gag order. The war on crypto didn't end. It just changed presidents. Mr. President, you set Ross free. You said you'd end the war. Ian's been inside since twenty-three. Bonnie says he teaches inmates how to read. She says Bitcoin is sacred to us. You freed one. Now free them all!
Freedom! Freedom! What you do with your freedom? Freedom! The WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange is back home in Australia. He will plead guilty to espionage charges. This will happen after five years in prison. We didn't see this coming. No, we really didn't. And this ends a nearly fifteen year legal saga with Julian Assange. While a victorious battle has been won. The war against freedom rages on with an enemy that doesn't sleep.
The toxic dinosaur media reports only when it fits their narrative. But we have never forgotten the enemies of the state. Make no mistake. We are under attack. Some have sacrificed everything. Enemies of the state. We call on those.
Dedicated to the cause. We beckon performers, artists, activists, patriots and warriors alike to sound the alarm and embolden the call. We're all here to support
In the name of freedom and liberty, we demand the immediate release, freedom, and absolution for all of those unjustly imprisoned by the state. The fight has only just begun. And now, please welcome to the stage your host, Mark Edge. Thanks for coming, everybody. Really appreciate it. To our party with a purpose, the enemies of the state, I know you're all from all around the and there's probably a few select of you United States,
from around the world. So thanks for coming. First thing, I found a lifetime member libertarian pen. You paid a thousand dollars for this thing. If it's yours, if you're a life member of the LP, check your lapel. If your pen is missing, I will have it on the sound table in a few moments. So we're gonna start off the first segment's called the absurdity of the state. And in fact, the absurdity is who they're going after and why they're going after them. And you'll find out here shortly. we're gonna start with Jeff Weinhaus. First, Jeff Weinhaus is an activist and outspoken critic of government authority whose case has become a stark example of the consequences faced by those who challenge
power. After being shot several times by a police officer who was reportedly under the influence of medication, Weinhaus survived. Not only to be prosecuted and sentenced to decades in prison, his case raises serious concerns about the use of force, due process, and whether justice is being applied fairly when individuals confront government officials. It stands as a powerful reminder of how quickly the roles of victim and defendant can be reversed when authority is questioned. I'd like to welcome to the stage Ammon Bundy. Ammon Bundy is gonna tell us more about
Jeffrey Winehouse. All right, I am here to advocate for Jeff Winehouse. I'm gonna take a few minutes here. because it is such an injustice that I cannot just sit around and say nothing about this. This man has spent the last eleven years in prison, and he is an innocent man. And what is his supposed crime? That he was exposing government corruption. Another name for Jeff Winehouse is the bulletin man and I look it up there's great videos about what he used to do because he was like the kind of the
at the forefront of independent journalism he had this. He would publish these bulletins and he would print them and then he'd pass them out all over and he had this website and he was doing videos long before YouTube, long before any of this stuff that we do now. And he was putting a lot of pressure by exposing corruption in government. And he was very effective at it. And he had this drive, and he wouldn't let go of anything. He just kept digging and digging. Well, what happened is he ran into some very strong evidence that government officials had murdered a person.
And he had this evidence. He started speaking about it. He was about ready to expose it. And what happens? they come and raid his house they take all his computers they take all his gear and now he's not he doesn't have the ability to reach out to people but he kept doing videos and trying to do the best he could and he was complaining a lot about the them taking his computer and he wanted those computer these computers back he had all this information on it And so they call him back, and this was the Missouri state and the county official, sheriff's office. They call him back, and they make arrangements to meet him to give him back his computers.
The arrangement, however, was at an old abandoned gas station. which has seemed odd for Jeff, but he really wanted his stuff back. So he meets him there. He gets out of the car. He's holding a camera. And he does have a sidearm, but it's in a parachuter case where it takes multiple hands to get it out. he's saying he's filming them and they act like he's pulling the gun he still has his hand the one hand that he has to pull the gun out with if he does he still has his hand on the camera and they shoot him twice in the chest the same officer and twice in the head now imagine this
In order to, I mean, those are kill shots. Those are meant to kill. When you shoot somebody twice in the chest and twice in the head, you're intending absolutely to kill him. That's what an assassin does, right? But imagine the actual act of this. You shoot him and he goes down, and then you shoot him while he's on the ground twice in the head. Well, anyway, Jeff refused to die. He refused to die. I mean, he's a tough son of a gun and he doesn't even, he doesn't even, he really actually goes to the hospital. He's in the hospital obviously for several days, but he gets out fairly quickly. There's never any handcuffs on him when he's in the hospital.
He's not charged with anything. He leaves and goes home and then, twenty-one days later, they charge him with assault on an officer with a deadly weapon and they prosecute him under those charges they withhold all the evidence because as this audience probably knows your day in trial your fair trial is not really that fair and the jury never really gets to hear the truth and that's what happened with jeff they withheld a tremendous amount of of evidence they did not allow much to be brought in and they convicted him because there's a ques there's a there's an old adage that says he who asks the question wins the
argument he who asks the question wins the argument and these prosecutors have it to where they know how to make it so that no question in the court is allowed without their permission and so they can only give the jury we can only give the jury what the prosecutors want pretty much. And that's what happened to Jeff. What was withheld? Well, they found out later that the officer, later after his trial, after his conviction, that the officer was diagnosed with PTSD, that he was also on certain drugs that were both altering his psychological but also other drugs they found in his abilities, system. They also found out that the officer that
shot him multiple times was in the process of being fired from the state of Missouri police force. And all of these things came out, but now here Jeff sets in prison and he's tried to appeal on this new information that that has come forth that was withheld from him and no judge will hear it on the district level on the circuit level or on the supreme court level of the state they will not even have a hearing and so an innocent man today sets in prison And there's something that needs to be done. We cannot just let this innocent man stay in prison and do nothing. And that's why I'm advocating for him
today. He is an innocent man. There are guilty people that need to be brought to justice. But it's certainly not just one house. Thank you. Appreciate your time. Thank you, Annan. Before we go any further, I want to thank the sponsors of this These things don't pay for themselves, event. as you know. By the way, tip your servers. Top sponsors are Bitcoin.com, and Freedom Dollar. So bitcoin.com is your source for all news regarding cryptocurrency and Freedom Dollar is the only stable coin that you
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And all of our donors we really appreciate you guys owning up for this party with a purpose enemies of the state, thank you. I hope you guys sign the petitions to get all these guys out of prison it's really the best thing that we can do at this point, many of the families do need support your support financially and. I talked to Ian before this event. He asked that any support that you might want to send his way as far as money or anything like that, go to the Samurai Wallet guys. Next up, the video, Ray Youssef is an entrepreneur and freedom advocate best known as the co-founder of
Paxful, a platform built to give people around the world access to financial tools, outside of traditional banking systems. His focus on empowering individuals in underserved communities through peer-to-peer exchange led Paxful to being named as one of the world's most influential companies by Time Magazine when he was the CEO. Yusef's work reflects a commitment to economic freedom and the belief that everyone should have the ability to control and access their own money without reliance on centralized institutions. My name is Ray Yusef and I am
guilty of the one unforgivable crime. Helping people in the global South use their money without borders and without limits. The DOJ hounded me for eight years. And then finally had me arrested and kidnapped by twenty federal agents in Mexico City and reported back to America to stand trial for charges that make no sense. Now, if you've been following the war on crypto, you know it never ended. Roman Storm and so many others have been arrested simply for writing software that allows people to transact privately. And the thing they have all in common is that there's this one charge,
running a money transmitter business without the money transmitter licenses. Well, in my case, we actually had money transmitter licenses. Yes, we did. And we had the best compliance program in our entire space, better than any of the other big One third of the company was compliance, exchanges. bigger than most banks. We even had one of the strongest KYC policies in the world. And we actually managed the KYC people in Africa that didn't even have IDs. Yet, they still hit us with a charge, which was a conspiracy to have an inadequate compliance program. How do you conspire to not do something?
And all this really shows is that they don't care. Why did you try to keep them? above and beyond, comply to the utmost, and they will still come after you if you are actually successful in helping people. This is the key. I do peer-to-peer. My name is Ray. I don't run an exchange where people gamble on meme coins. It's like a big lottery of tax on the poor. I stayed away from all that. For a time, our exchange was bigger than Binance in places like Africa and India. All the investors were like, hey, Ray, We'll invest in you if you start an you can really dominate the market. exchange, And I said, no, I don't want that. This is peer-to-peer electronic cash.
We want to help people use their money so these people can create wealth in their countries. the powers that be never thought that Now, someone would actually be able to do this, to actually get Bitcoin as peer-to-peer electronic cash to places like Africa. But someone did. I wasn't lucky. That person was me. I was blessed. difference they never thought that someone like me didn't take any of their money didn't take money from anyone who was actually homeless when they started this business could actually pull something like that on by the grace of god who did and then they are like wow didn't see this coming but you know we have to make an example of this guy and that's why they're coming
Now, on top of all that, I am literally the only FinTech CEO in the world that speaks out for the oppressed consistently, including God, from day one. These are the same people that stole the election from Thomas Madison. These are the same people that stole all they do is steal elections, or rig votes, bribe people. These are the people that own our banks, own our media, and now own our politicians. This is the Epstein class. They don't like me. It's a spiritual thing. Well, guess what? I don't like them either. And I'm not backing down. So I will fight this trial. And don't worry about me. Thank God I have the funds to be able to actually fight in court. And while their charges are bogus,
we were absolutely the best operator and agent and actor in this business. And we had tremendous success. We even got on my company in Time Magazine. That didn't matter, though. The DOJ still shut it down. But guess what, folks? The battle continues. So from all of you listening, I want you to understand, this is a spiritual battle. This is a spiritual warfare. People like me who speak the truth and we're actually honest and good, never lost anyone's money and help people to use their money in a peer-to-peer fashion, we're public enemy number one. Even more so than people that write privacy software. Because we represent a spiritual divergence that they simply cannot handle.
The machine cannot tolerate So I don't need money, but I do need your support. Tell people the truth. Tell people about my story, about Roman and all the others. We're the good guys. The war on crypto never ended. It only just began. want to make sure that they stop the peer-to-peer out of this and it's just a machine to rob people that's not what we need folks we need a place where everyone can transact about borders and without limits so people can create wealth that way my family would never have to immigrate from egypt to america or anywhere else we could have stayed back home with great lives created wealth
A land as rich and as plentiful as Egypt and all of Africa. They don't want that world. They want a world where they're the unipower. Well, the unipower is already falling. It's only a matter of time. These creatures are like parasites. Let's continue to call them out. Let's continue to support the good guys and never lose hope. We're going to win this thing. It's just going to be rough going. But we're in the end times. And I love a challenge. And I certainly hope you do as well. Thank you.
My job at Free Talk Live, being the host for twenty five years going on now, has allowed me to meet a lot of great activists. One of my favorite of those activists, Jim Babb. Thank you, Jim. Thank you, Mark. Thank you all for coming. Thank you to every enemy of the state. If you're a libertarian, they have declared you their enemy. If you love freedom, the state hates your guts. If you build the tools that help people free the world, you will become enemy number one.
Tonight we are recognizing some individuals that have been deemed so dangerous that they must be imprisoned, of course, they aren't dangerous to anyone but tyrants. So i'd like to take a moment first to thank you for coming and i'd also like to thank our streaming sponsors and people listening online and. I'd like to also thank our sponsors. Mark mentioned Freedom Dollar, Bitcoin.com, Free Talk Live. I'd also like to mention Bloodless Revolution, Think Penguin, Taggart Trading, Anarchapulco, Live Free Academy, New Jersey Dollar Vigilante, Pirate Chain, and of course, Punk Rock Libertarians.
So please give a round of applause for our very generous sponsors. They say if you are the smartest person in the room, then you're in the wrong room. I'm going to say my version is also if you hate the state more than everyone in the room, you're in the wrong room. In both cases, I'm in the right room. And I want to just give a shout out to our staff members and our volunteers at Enemies of the State, which have just been incredible to work with. Just tireless, very talented, and absolutely dedicated to this cause. So thank you guys. The men and women that have been working
on this are truly amazing. Dexter Taylor is a software engineer from Brooklyn. He was convicted of charges related to the possession and manufacture of unlicensed firearms, often called ghost guns. However, Dexter refers to them as traditional firearms, as the home manufacturer of weapons is an American tradition. The Second Amendment allegedly protects our freedom of self-defense. The New York State Constitution boldly declares that the right of self-defense
cannot be infringed. What a joke. A peaceful man is in jail right now for manufacturing firearms in his basement. Now, did he use these firearms to commit a crime? No. Did he sell these firearms to someone else that was going to commit a crime? No. As far as I know, his creations never even left his house. The manufacturer of weapons at home, whether it's three-D printed, milled, or just assembled out of plumbing parts, creates a ceiling for gun control. No matter what laws they pass,
We can't be completely disarmed as long as we can manufacture our own weapons. Those that dream of a disarmed population to dominate cannot tolerate people like Dexter Taylor, because not only does he develop and create weapons, but he teaches and inspires others to exercise their rights. Dexter has an appeal in progress right now, and he has raised almost three hundred thousand dollars of a four hundred thousand dollar goal. I'd like to close that gap to cover his defense because he needs the best defense possible.
And when he wins, his victory will reinforce our right of self-defense for everyone. Dexter would love to be here with us right now. He loves freedom as much as everyone in this room. But instead he has, I got a chance to speak with him and he has recorded a brief message to share with you. And we're gonna play that right now. So thank you very much. So why did the New York government declare me to be an enemy of the state? That's a very good question. I think it's because the people who govern us, the Democrats who govern New York State and New York City, have given up on the fundamental purpose of the law, the criminal law.
the fundamental purpose of criminal law is In my opinion, to prevent the decent from the wicked. But we have a situation where, because the things the government, the New York government would have to do to really get a handle on the wicked bring on the defense. The thing that have to do to really get a handle on that would involve overturning many other political work that they've had in some cases for decades. Black conservatives like me have been thinking for a long time that the blightedness and the brokenness and the violence and the crime in many of our cities has a root cause in the destruction
of the family. right the family of the foundation of civilization cornerstone of society if you break family you break society if you break society all hell breaks loose we see that this is true everywhere they can't admit that breaking the family problem because breaking the family, you know that I think illegitimacy like pretending as if the state can actually be a part of the children like these things are central to the liberal Democratic political orthodoxy in New York state and then you know of the United States in general. So back to the original question. They have to make enemies of people like
me. The focus of human beings running around hurting other human beings right they have to focus on this instrument right and they have to say this instrument is evil and if you if you manufacture one in your house even though you have a clean record right even though you have to criminal background check even though you're remembering the sending of your gun range even though you're a productive citizen you're a working man your family man even though you're all those things we have to go after you so that's That's my take on why they've decided to make me an enemy of the state.
I do want to thank again Bitcoin.com and Freedom Dollar for their sponsorship of this event and all the effort that everyone here involved has put into freeing these men who it's just absurd that they're all in prison. It's ridiculous that these people are locked up. You can hear this guy. What do you do wrong? I mean, do we not have a second amendment in You can't make a firearm in your own this country? home. He's not talking about selling it. He's talking, talking about distributing it. They had to go after him. He's right. Next up. a man whom I greatly respect and who will be kicking off his senatorial
campaign here in the near future, Aaron Day. Good evening. So in twenty twenty four, we came together for this same event, Washington, D.C. And at that time I was speaking on behalf of Roger Ver. who at that time was in a prison, a Spanish prison, the same one that fellow friend and libertarian John McAfee died in under mysterious circumstances. But there were only three crypto prisoners at that time. The next day I sat at the convention and watched Trump give his talk.
but the good news is he said he Well, was gonna commute Ross's sentence and he did And then he declared the war on crypto is over. I'm here to tell you tonight the war Well, on crypto is not over. It's not over because he passed an executive order saying there will be no CBDCs, only to push the Genius Act, which is a backdoor CBDC that takes thirty three trillion dollars worth of private stable coins and puts them under the control, trackability, programmability and censorship of the federal government. The Clarity Act goes beyond that and tokenizes everything that you own, your stocks, your bonds, your house, and gives the keys to BlackRock and the
government in the same way they control stable coins. But that conversation is a different conversation. I have that all the time. You can hear my podcast, but it is related to the war on crypto. Tonight, we're here to talk about six men in six cages and one pattern. And it's not about crypto. This is a war on free speech. It's a war on innovation. It's a war on fundamental American values this country was founded on. I will not have time to walk through each man's case. Other people will be coming and speaking about each of the POWs individually. But I am gonna tell you about seven things that connect them all.
Some apply to all six, some apply to most, some apply to specific men, but every one of these threads runs through a pattern. And once you see it, you can't unsee it. One, counsel. Ian Freeman had a paid opinion letter from an attorney that said he didn't need a money transmitter license. The letter was never allowed to be mentioned in court. Roman Storm had his own lawyers. His investors had their lawyers. And the entire Ethereum community was relying on a twenty nineteen FinCEN guidance document that said non-custodial software is not money transmission. And here's the most damning fact in this entire war. Six months before SDNY prosecutors
indicted Keone Rodriguez and William Hill, those same prosecutors called FinCEN They asked in writing, is Samurai Wallet a money service business? FinCED told them in writing, no, it is not. The prosecutors hid that letter for twenty months and then indicted the men anyway. If we let the government strip your right to rely on honest advice from your own lawyer, we're not just weak in one defense, we shatter the entire foundation of the rule of law. Fair notice dies, predictability dies, and raw government replaces justice. they were all targeted because what they Two, believed. Ian Freeman was previously rated by the
FBI in twenty sixteen with no charges then again in twenty twenty one with filed, armored vehicles and drones. Because he spent twenty years on the radio promoting liberty and because he was the first radio host in the entire world to talk about Bitcoin in twenty ten. The judge who sentenced Ross Ulbricht stood in open court and called his libertarian philosophy, quote, deeply troubling, terribly misguided, and very dangerous. The judge who sentenced Keone Rodriguez to the statutory maximum said he was, quote, functioning with moral blinders on. Those moral blinders are his belief that you have the right to financial privacy.
Three, four of these men, Keone Rodriguez, William Hill, Roman Storm, and Roman Sterlingoff were building tools to restore the Fourth Amendment. They were simply trying to uphold our right to privacy. And for that, they were targeted and continue to be targeted to this day. Four, state force was the message. Sam Bankman Freed stole ten billion dollars and got a polite Bahamas extradition and the largest bail in American history. Bernie Madoff's son called the FBI. Keone Rodriguez built a non-custodial wallet and got more than forty armed FBI tactical agents pointing assault rifles at his chest in the morning. Drones, armored vehicles,
men dressed like G.I. Joe. Roman Storm got rifles drawn in his living room in front of his daughter. William Hill had the Portuguese police kicking his door in Lisbon and seized twenty-seven devices. Ray Youssef was hauled out of Mexico and dumped on a tarmac in Los Angeles in handcuffs. And I was there at Mineratopia at that event where he was taken away. And Roman Sterling off was stopped at the airport at LAX and held for forty one months without bail. Three and a half years before a single juror ever heard his case. Five, the tactics of the Department of Justice should sicken everyone in this room. U.S.
attorney who personally announced the Roman Storm and Samurai indictment, Damien Williams, who called himself the sheriff of Wall Street, resigned in twenty twenty four only become to become the co-chair of the litigation practice at Jenner and Block, where he represents white collar criminals. Meanwhile, Wachovia laundered three hundred and seventy eight billion dollars in Mexican cartel money. The fine was one hundred and sixty million. No one went to prison. Zero individuals went to prison. JP Morgan Chase, Deutsche Bank, Wells Fargo, all caught, all paid civil fines. Zero individuals went to prison. Six, and this applies to all of them.
The reason this happened to them and not Jamie Diamond, every one of these six men was promoting peaceful, voluntary, peer-to-peer exchange of value outside of the central banking system. Ian's Bitcoin embassy, Keone and Williams privacy wallet, Roman Storm's privacy protocol, Roman Sterlingov's mixer. It wasn't even his mixer. that was a case of mistaken identity. Actually, Ray's peer-to-peer marketplace for the unbanked. Tools that let one human being transact with another anywhere on this planet without asking for permission from a bank, a regulator, or a government. Seven, and then there's Roman Sterlingoff. Roman is the canary in the coal mine.
Roman was convicted on one tool called Chainalysis Reactor, a black box, a piece of proprietary forensic software that no defendant is allowed to inspect, no expert is allowed to audit, and no juror is allowed to question. The FBI walks into a courtroom, points at a Chainalysis report, and that report is treated as the truth. A rival forensics firm called Chain Argos filed a brief with the DC Circuit and called all three of Chain Alice's core methodologies, quote, fundamentally unscientific. The FBI's lead expert admitted on the stand that the analysis he used to identify Sterling off was made up solely
for this case. No peer review. They found no communication. They found no witness. that had ever spoken to him. And Tor Eklund, his lawyer, told the appellate court that this is the most insane thing in the entire war. He KYC'd his account when he didn't even have to. He was the only name they could find. He's in jail because he followed the rules. Twelve and a half years, three hundred and ninety-five billion dollars in forfeiture, forty-one months in a cage before he even stood trial. Three weeks ago, FBI Director Kash Patel had a fireside chat in Las Vegas, and the title was,
Code is Free Speech, End the War on Bitcoin. It was laughable. A lot of us were there actually expecting and hoping that he was gonna announce some but I guess code is free speech in pardons, Las Vegas, in a federal courtroom in Manhattan, code is forty years in a cage. So I just wanted to provide the overview. These are fundamental points that apply to all of these cases and apply to all of us. This goes well beyond crypto and goes right to the heart of the rule of law and anyone who talks about or promotes freedom.
Hello, everyone. I'm Roman Storm. I'm a software engineer and I help build Ornithocash. It's a non-custodial decentralized cryptocurrency privacy tool. In twenty twenty three, the Department of Justice came after me. They charged me with conspiracy of money laundering, sanctions violations and operating an unlicensed money transmitting business because some hackers allegedly used Ornithocash. At most, they were a small fraction of its users. So just to make it very clear, I wasn't charged with hacking anyone. I wasn't charged with stealing anyone's funds. I was charged for writing open source
code. The code that anyone can still use today. So in July, I went to trial. The jury never heard a single piece of evidence that I communicated with any criminals or helped with any hack. Not one. Because I didn't. And yet the government still wants to retry me for allegedly conspiring to engage in money laundering and sanctions violations because they failed to convict me the first time on those charges. Think about what that means. If the prosecutors get their way, they set a dangerous precedent for every
software engineer, every privacy advocate, every open source publisher in this country. They're trying to make software engineers liable when criminals misuse the tools they build. This directly contradicts past Supreme Court rulings, established legal precedent, and current government agency guidance. So if you want to learn more about this case and support my legal battle, please visit freeromanstorm.com. Thank you.
we represent roman sterling off in the federal case united states the roman sterling off as you may know roman was recently convicted of running the uh bitcoin mixer bitcoin fog and sentenced to twelve and a half years in prison and he maintains his innocence to this day and um we just finished oral arguments in this appeal in dc and are waiting the decision The Roman Sterling has been convicted of operating Bitcoin fog. It was a cryptocurrency mixer that was available on the tour network from about two thousand and eleven through the government set it down in two thousand and twenty one. The problem is that the government introduced absolutely no evidence that
Roman Sterling I've ever operated it. No direct evidence, no communications, no eyewitness testimony, nothing. No servers, no logs, no nothing, like nothing. The entire case is circumstantial. For the best that we can tell, it looks like Roman did an early transaction with somebody who really did set up Bitcoin fog. But because he was the only person who KYC'd his Mt. Gox account back in two thousand and eleven, he became the target of this investigation. In other words, because he was a Boy Scout in two thousand eleven, like seriously, like this guy's only crime is that he got into Bitcoin early. Right. And this is why everybody should be concerned about this case,
because what happened here is the government we think happened. The government just traced saw a peer to peer transaction with the people we think started Bitcoin Fog and then backward traced on the chain. And because Roman's name was the only name that they could find anywhere, because he was such a Boy Scout and he's KYC-ing, like Mike said, his Mt. Gox account in, what is that, like, two thousand eleven, two thousand twelve. They're like, it's him. It's him. So they launched this massive, like, ten year case, you know, like, where they investigate him. What, they put him under surveillance, two thousand seventeen. Mike, right in Miami, You know, they're surveilling his internet traffic.
No evidence he operates Bitcoin. Fuck. They surveil his servers in Romania where those are the hidden Bitcoin fog servers, they say, oh, except they turn out that they're not the hidden Bitcoin fog servers. They arrest him with all of his laptops, computers, like three terabytes hard drives, like his diary, his notes, ten years of notes, all this stuff. When they arrest him in April, twenty seven, twenty twenty one at LAX, it has a spreadsheet of all his internet passwords. Nothing in there about Bitcoin fog. And with this huge lack of evidence the government relied almost completely against Roman Sterling, upon two unscientific tests that they came up with for the purpose of this case.
The first one was an IP overlap analysis. Basically, they said that Roman operated Bitcoin Fog because he logged into the same IP address that some of the email addresses that were affiliated with Bitcoin Fog logged into in the same temporal proximity, so around the same time. this is another reason why you should Now, absolutely be concerned about this case, because think about how when you log into a server or whatever, you're sharing the same IP address as thousands or tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of other people. They are saying he's the same. person as the operator of bitcoin fog because he used the same ip address of somebody they think was operating bitcoin
within a few minutes or hours or days of somebody it's insane right and and the other thing that's insane about it what it is consistent with is if you're doing a peer-to-peer transaction with somebody in a cafe or somewhere and you send the money and then they're going to log in and check to see if they got the bitcoin But that's it. And that's what they say. They say in two thousand eleven, he registered the domain name for Bitcoin Funk. That's that's really the only piece of evidence of him, they say, of him operating it, besides saying he was was an Akamishito Amidato, right? Yeah, that's correct. Now, the second piece of evidence that the government introduced came from a company
called Chainalysis, which I'm sure some of you have heard from before. Chainalysis, they do blockchain tracing. None of their tracing techniques have ever been scientifically verified. error rates, They didn't know their they didn't know their false positive rates, they didn't know their false negative rates. They didn't meet a single one of the factors that are outlined by the Supreme Court case Daubert that determines the threshold that evidence needs to meet in order for it to be introduced as expert testimony at trial. It didn't meet a single one of those factors, yet it was allowed to be brought into It can use against Roman Sterlinghoff. court. Mind you,
despite these tests that they did with chain analysis and the IP overlap analysis, None of the expert witnesses even identified Roman as the operator of Bitcoin Fog. Even with their own expert testimony, the government couldn't get somebody to target Roman as the operator of Bitcoin Fog. And I think that attests to just how ludicrous this case is against them. Because everything that I've seen, everything that Tor has seen, everything that anybody involved with this case has, when they really get into the evidence, look at it. it shows the Roman Sterling off. So now we have an innocent person sitting in prison and Tor and I just went down to Washington, D.C.
to conduct oral arguments on this case and we brought up these issues. We brought up, first of all, Venue. Why was he on trial in D.C.? He had never set foot in D.C. None of the servers were in D.C. There were no customers in D.C. Venue is completely inappropriate in Washington, D.C. The second issue that we brought up was the Daubert challenges to this expert witness testimony. And then there was a whole list of other issues. They tried to bring in the prejudicial They tried to say he was a child. evidence. They tried to say he was a child pornographer, even though it wasn't a single piece of evidence on any of his stuff anywhere or anywhere in this guy's entire life.
of like any involvement in child pornography right but like what they say happened is like nine hundred eighty dollars out of four hundred million from not going into bitcoin fog and being laundered but that came out of bitcoin fog went to this korean child porn site that got shut down And so then they're like, We're going to tell the jury about child we're going to bring in child porn. porn. Even when we were up on appeal, the federal DC Court of Appeals didn't like that. Actually, one of the judges said to the government, why did you bring this in? why did you bring this in? This case isn't about this, right? So... To be honest, the appellate judge seemed quite
disappointed with the prosecution for doing that. For doing that. But that doesn't mean you're going to win because there's only an eight percent reversal rate on appeal. But, you know, I mean, there's a lot to this case, but to me, sixteen years of representing people After, like, accused of computer crime by the federal government, I've never had a case where the government has just, like, arrested somebody with all their devices and searched through them completely and not found a single piece of corroborating evidence. their theory, like zero. I've never had a case where there were no eyewitnesses or victims who testified to seeing the person commit the crime.
What's scary about this case, and it's kind of Kafkaesque, it's a little bit out of Orwell, is that everything is just this forensic software that there's no validation for and everyone's buying into it because it's so impressive sounding. and the judge is letting it in, and you've got the FBI. And this poor kid, man, he just got railroaded from it. I just don't think he did it. And this is just really scary. And so it's up on appeal right now. You can get more information, what, at freeroman.org, Mike? FREEROMAN.org. We can also be reached by email at torr at torreklin.com or michael at torreklin.com. And we'd be happy to talk to anybody who's interested in supporting Roman's position here.
this is just part of a broader sort And, you know, Yeah. of attack on crypto liberties. And I just think financial freedom and financial privacy in general. And, you know, Roman is just one of the prisoners in the war of crypto. We've got Roman Storm, you know, we've got the Samurai guys. We've got, who else am I leaving? Ian Freeman. Who else am I leaving out of there? Like... You got Samurai Wallet, Tornado Cash. Tornado Cash. Just, you know, and we need to push back against this because ultimately this is a political issue. And it's the way certain politicians view cryptocurrency, like, you know, Elizabeth Warren thinks it's the Antichrist because she's a banking cartel person.
Anyhow, thank you for your support. Thank you for your time and free Roman, all of them. I want to thank Bitcoin.com, and Bitcoin.com is proud to bring our next All right. speaker. Okay. Good evening, everybody. My name is Roman Sterlingov. I want to thank you all for looking at this case and recognizing the injustices. This is my sixth year being locked away from everyone I love, losing friends, family, and the best years of my life.
If you think it's hard to wrap your head around the absurdity and the fact that something like this can still happen in a country like the U.S., you're not alone. It's still really hard for me to believe in the absurdity of it, too. I was just a Bitcoin early adopter. Back in two thousand ten, I was hanging out with some of the first people that understood Bitcoin before the rest of the society. We were trading it, we were educating each other about Bitcoin, about this whole new ecosystem of apps and technologies. the coolest thing was just to be a For me, part of it. I was hanging out with people much smarter than me, having crazy conversations. But then, almost ten years later,
I find myself being dragged through years of jails, alongside murderers and rapists, just as a preparation to then finally see through weeks of trial where they keep showing me these alphanumeric strings of Bitcoin addresses and asking if I remember this or that transaction from ten years ago. Then when I say that I was trading Bitcoin and I don't remember every hexadecimal transaction number, they say that I'm being evasive. They start asking why I was online at the same hour as some other account they're looking for from ten years ago. Try to explain that as anybody who bought or sold Bitcoin online knows, this is just how it works.
You send the transaction and as soon as you send the other person a message so you've made it, that they can confirm it and they send you the other part of the deal. But it doesn't matter because they have already decided. They say it was close enough. They now consider me the same person or a co-conspirator at least. Then I sit through endless series of just purely surreal episodes, like when a government expert takes a picture out of an Amazon e-book, a PDF that I had on my e-reader, a picture of a chat window with a joke about money laundering, and they cut it out of the e-book and they show it to the jury saying that I wrote it. They say it has to be me because
the joke mentions a beard and they have pictures of me where I also have a beard. They build a whole new identity for me out of these statistical coincidences and educated guesses and hidden closed source heuristics. And then they keep talking about all the things that sound scary if you're not into technology, like Raspberry Pi minicomputers that I had or VPNs or command line interfaces or a four G modem that I also had. These are not crimes. A Raspberry Pi is a thirty dollar minicomputer that kids use to learn programming. But to an average person, they sound like evil spells. But you know, some of this absurdity was actually explained shortly thereafter.
The court said something remarkable on the record. They openly said that my sentence was for general deterrence. That just means in everyday language that they're doing it to make an example. They were sentencing me to scare you. They were using me as a warning sign to the entire crypto industry. If you look for privacy, if you touch Bitcoin in ways they don't like, this is what happens. So you see, I'm not even special. I'm just an example. There's no other way to explain even just the sheer disparity, the different standards. I was sentenced to twelve and a half years in federal prison. Let me put that into perspective. For example, Jianping Zhao,
and I'm sorry if I mispronounce it, the founder of Binance, which was a... This call is from a federal prison. it was the world's largest cryptocurrency At the time, exchange. It pleaded guilty to money laundering violations. Now, this is all according to the prosecutors. God knows what really was happening, but at least according to them, the violations included facilitating illegal materials, drug trafficking, terrorist financing. It had several mixers, many times larger than anything even alluded to in this case. He got four months and then was pardoned shortly thereafter. Then there are many examples of other people who steal from hundreds of victims, who have actual victims,
who endanger lives, who commit actual fraud. They get less time than what I received. Then I read about the Blanche memo, about the cryptocurrency policy. how the new administration says that mixers in general shouldn't even be prosecuted for the crimes of their individual users. That's before even talking about the attribution and all the other issues in my prosecution. So here we are. And in any case, I just want to say thank you to all the people who have supported me, regular people like you probably, the lawyers, the journalists, my family, the Bitcoin community at large that hasn't forgotten me. We've seen that it's not all bad, that in some cases we can right the wrongs and injustices.
We know that it's possible. Just need your support now. Thank you. I want to thank Bitcoin.com and Bitcoin.com is proud to bring our next speaker here. This is rubber hits the road for this event i'm going to ask you for two things for your you know what you can do one scan that qr code right over there sign the petition to free my business partner ian freeman two financially support lauren rodriguez and her family during this highly
expensive defense that they didn't ask for, that is uncalled for and ought to be illegal. Lauren Rodriguez. Hello. What if one of the most dangerous things you can do in America today is build a tool that protects people's privacy? Simply providing the same level of privacy we've come to expect in the legacy system, but for Bitcoin.
Creating neutral tools is now treated as criminal. Can we really claim to have liberty? It's been over five months since I dropped my husband, Keone Rodriguez, off at the federal prison camp in Morgantown, West Virginia. He'll spend the next five years there. Five years of our lives, our hopes and our dreams stolen. That day dropping my husband off at prison was one of the hardest days of my life. It was more devastating than the pre-dawn raid on our home. Most people assume that having your house raided by the FBI would be traumatizing. Being awoken by the sound of a loudspeaker blaring to come out with your hands raised, the house surrounded by agents,
laser sights on our chest from rifles pointed at our hearts, a drone flown through the front door, being handcuffed and separated from each other. But it wasn't. The true anguish I felt didn't come until I had to leave my husband at prison and drive away. That moment signified that there wasn't going to be justice in this case. It was the final nail in the coffin, proof that the American justice system can get it so profoundly wrong and that ordinary people like us have almost no recourse. My husband, Keone, and his co-founder of Samurai Wallet, William Hill, are both sitting in federal prison.
Not because they hurt someone, defrauded anyone, or stole anything, but for building open source, non-custodial Bitcoin privacy tools that are still being used by thousands of people around the world today. Keone and Bill built Samurai Wallet as a tool for activists, dissidents, and average people who are seeking transactional privacy on an open ledger where anyone with an internet connection can learn basically everything about your finances. Not for the purpose of facilitating crime or aiding criminals. It was defensive technology. For a world increasingly plagued by physical violence and extortion for Bitcoin holders, attacks that in some cases have even
resulted in death. They wrote code to stay within the guidelines put out by FinCEN, the regulator in charge of enforcing these laws. FinCEN even told the prosecutor six months before indictment that Samurai was not in violation. It didn't matter. This case, like so many others, is textbook lawfare. It represents a weaponized DOJ targeting developers of legal privacy software in order to stifle innovation. It ultimately leaves everyday users and freedom fighters living under repressive regimes more vulnerable. This case and all the financial and emotional havoc it's wrecked in our lives
is bigger than just Keone and Bill and our families. It's about who they'll come for next. When the government can imprison people, not for anything they've done, but for what someone else might do with their code, none of us are truly free. The implications stretch far beyond Bitcoin or code. They threaten the very ideals of innovation, free expression, and personal liberty. Creators of VPN, tours, encrypted messaging apps could all be next. Your right to use freedom technology is at stake. Bill and Keone now have joined an ever-growing list of people, many represented here tonight,
brilliant minds and peaceful warriors caged for challenging the state's monopoly on power. This year marks the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of America's founding. It's a time that should fill all of us with pride. Yet it's also a time of painful reckoning. Because while we celebrate our nation's birth, we cannot ignore the slow erosion and the quiet death of the very principles that made it exceptional. Liberty, equality, natural rights, and the rule of law. These founding ideas will keep being eroded unless we refuse to let cases like Keone and Bill's and all the others spoken about here tonight slip quietly past our social consciousness.
I need your help. We can't stay silent. I need you guys to stand up and call out the profound injustices done to these men. For our case, you can please go and visit BillandKeone.org to learn more about their case, sign calls for a presidential pardon and donate to the cause. Your voice does matter. Code should not be a crime. Free Samurai. Thank you guys for listening. What Lauren didn't say is this is incredibly expensive, her defense.
And not everybody got in like my business partner at twenty seven cents on Bitcoin. Now, Ian gave away almost all of his cryptocurrency, but his court fees have been taken care of. But that doesn't make the justice of this any better. He still sits in federal prison. We started Free Talk Live in two thousand and two. We were the really only libertarian radio program of any size on the radio. And we were on for twenty years. We were the number one political podcast while Joe Rogan was still feeding people fish eyes.
We were the first media in the world to discuss Bitcoin on December the twenty eighth. Twenty ten. The head developer of Bitcoin met with us in January twenty eleven. He explained to us how money could be backed by math instead of backed by gold. And we became the launch point. For the multistage rocket that shot Bitcoin into the stratosphere. Ian Freeman was instrumental in the launch of the Free State Project, the launch of Bitcoin, the launch of cryptocurrency. And we also founded an organization called Bitcoin Not Bombs.
We weren't the only ones. I mean, we gave some money to the guys who founded the organization called Bitcoin Not Bombs because we believe so thoroughly in the idea that if you back money with value the politicians can't just print it that this will affect the war machine in in the united states government wanted to prosecute its war it asked the american people to grow gardens save your nylons and buy war bonds in a scant sixty years later that's nothing in the course of history When George Bush Jr. was asked,
how can we support America in the war on terror? He said, go shopping. Something fundamental changed in the money in this country. Something fundamental changed in how war was prosecuted. The amount of debt currently compared to GDP, makes us look like we're in the middle of fighting Nazis. We're not, ladies and gentlemen, this is the new normal. They tax your great grandchildren for their war machine. They drop billion dollar bombs on ten dollar tents, and they call it justice. They call it the American way, and they lock up patriots that want to hold them accountable,
that want to return real money, that want to keep your savings. This is the wife of one of those patriots. This is Bonnie Freeman. Please sign this petition, freeeannow.org. Bonnie. I took it off. I've talked about my husband Ian at another enemies of the state party in twenty twenty four. And I've spoken about him on podcasts.
I recently got interviewed by BBC, which is just amazing to think of that. It's not out yet, but that so many people are going to hear his story. And every time I talk about it, I seem to just focus on what happened with the negativity. And obviously, it's an extremely negative thing. You need to know that. But the thing about Ian is that he is psychotically positive. He's been described that way. And he if you want to get to actually know him and know why he is such a gem, not just as a person who should be free like everyone, but also as an asset to the liberty community. and a person who helps bring more liberty to the world for everyone i wanted to
talk about why he's an enemy of the state and you may or may not have heard of him before today with his name and picture up on things here um but he's done a lot of heavy lifting for the freedom movement he has this pattern of realizing something and when he's got it and when he's all in on it acts on it immediately. And so I have four examples of that. First is when he first smoked weed for the first time in high school. That's when Ian realized that he'd been lied to all his life about weed. This wasn't a portal to demonic hellscape. This wasn't instant death. So what else had he been lied to
about in school and by his elders in his life? And so that's how he became a libertarian. The second is that after he became a libertarian, he got involved in the Libertarian Party down in Florida where he's from. And he realized that their efforts there were just futile. There would never be enough libertarians in Florida to make it to where, oh, well, everybody in Florida is living an actually like free life. And so that led him to find out about the Free State Project. Heard about it, I think he voted for New Hampshire because there was a vote of which state it He moved sight unseen into a house he would be. bought and he was mover number four
twenty. And he brought his radio show there and moved his entire life there. Mark also went with him. He was part of the show. The third thing he did like that is he began facing down the local bureaucrats. He was getting thrown in cages for his activism multiple times, making videos on freekeen.com because we live in Keene, New Hampshire. And on YouTube and reaching so many thousands of people that hadn't heard of the ideas at all before, also with his seven day a week radio show, Free Talk Live. I don't think a lot of people realize that that was going on for seven days a week and it's still happening. Free Talk Live is a twenty three year old show.
But now that I'm in charge of it, it's weekends only because it is an incredible source of energy that just does nothing but works for the cause of liberty every single day. It's a huge loss for him to just be sitting in a cage. So, and when he was, when he got to New Hampshire, he's getting thrown in a cage. He's doing all this activism in Keene. He got an award from the Free State Project for being the best recruiter for movers in New Hampshire in twenty twenty six or twenty sixteen. so the fourth thing is that right when he found out about bitcoin and amassed a lot of it mostly thanks to roger veer he didn't just sit on it he didn't go live on an island and have whatever
he wanted for the rest of his life he started the shire free church and he made it his mission to get bitcoin into people's hands directly He got Bitcoin into so many people's hands with LocalBitcoins.com and his Bitcoin vending machines. He got wealth out of the US dollar, out of the government's hands and into individuals, so many people. that no matter what happens next, what I'm gonna tell you next, no matter what, he was a success. That's what Ian is. He's not a sad story. He is a success. The government can never take back what he did. All of the people that he got Bitcoin into their hands ever.
the big, the feds can never unsell that Bitcoin. And because of that, because his radio show, because he's so outspoken and was such a big target was on his back in March on March, sixteenth, twenty, twenty-one at, you know, pre-dawn hours, they didn't do a call out, but they did. The feds did come raid our house. The FBI, the post office, the ATF, the local police, and the IRS all came to our house, sixty plus federal agents and our local police, and the Keene and the Concord, New Hampshire Bearcats, which means a ballistic armored vehicle, a tank, were at our house, broke down our windows.
They threw loud things that smoke bombs that make noise, flashbangs. They broke windows. And I woke up already walking. It's like that's the first thing I remember is literally walking with my dog in my hands. He's a fifteen pound Chihuahua mix. And I was just walking behind Ian knowing that something had just woke us up. I thought maybe some teenagers broke into our house or something. And no, it was worse. It was the FBI with their head stuck through our windows, a broken window, saying, this is the FBI. Put your arms up. And they started screaming. Everything they said was screaming. They were saying, put the dog down. And they're cussing, too. They're like, you just broke into our house.
So they made me put my dog down and he immediately runs outside. So he's in the dark with all these tanks and also black SUVs just driving around in the dark and they don't see They don't know he's there. him. And they took Ian out and handcuffed him. And they took me out. But on the way there, I wasn't wearing shoes and all this stuff. So they made me put on some of Ian's boots. And I even said, these are not mine. And they screamed at me, put on the effing boots. And they were filled with a hundred-year-old glass that's not tempered or anything. They were just filled with glass from the window. And I had to stand in that for thirty minutes and then also go sit in
one of their SUVs when I was just shivering too much because it was so cold. And I was never under arrest. I asked, I immediately, when I finally came to my senses after I'm handcuffed, I'm asking, can I pick up my dog? Can you unhandcuff me so I can pick up my dog and stuff? And he's just like coming up to me, sniffing, all scared, running away again into the darkness. He said, don't worry about the dog. And I said, well, am I being detained? I finally remembered the thing to ask. and he said my my personal fbi agent he said you're not being detained you're being restrained until we can figure out if there's anything in the house that's going to hurt us so is there anything
in the house that's going to hurt us and i said no but i was still restrained for another like two hours until they let me go they came up in with coconut sorry my dog coconut in the head fbi agent's arms she said are you bonnie cruz which was my maiden last name and are you ian freeman's girlfriend and i said yes and she said is this your dog and i said yes and she said we're gonna have to put him in the pound and i was just like immediately like i lost all my like calm that i had gathered from sitting there just like calming myself down and being focused. So I'm like, no, please, I don't know where the pound is here even. I just moved here. I basically moved in within two months
before the FBI raided our house. I was like, I don't even, if you guys are raiding other people's houses, because I had heard that, I gathered that by the way they're talking or something. I was like, I don't even know who I could use or I could go to their house to get, I don't know. I started panicking because she's threatening me with my dog. And as soon as I start talking like that, like fast and like, oh, wait, I don't even know. She's like, starts asking me questions. She's like, why is there, why do libertarians go to the Mighty Moose Mart? And I was like, it's a convenience store. It's a convenience store in Keene owned by libertarians. another question, another question.
I don't remember them now. And I just answered the first few kind of like, what? What do you ask? And then I was like, I don't want to answer questions. It took several questions for me to remember. And then she turns to somebody. She's like, she doesn't want to talk, and walks away, and put my dog in another SUV. And eventually they let me go. And I learned that there's this warrant because I didn't know what it was for the whole time. I didn't think that if the feds ever came for Ian, it was going to be for selling Bitcoin. I really didn't like. I thought it would be something else because you always have to feel like they're after you because it's not
paranoid when there are bad people who are after good people. That's just the way our world is because of the way that the federal government especially runs itself. So I learned that there was this warrant and he had been hit with maybe like twelve charges at the beginning and he got put in jail. The prosecution said that he's a sophisticated cyber criminal and he shouldn't be let out. And they said that this was a case just like any other money laundering case. They charged him with money laundering. They charged him with running an unlicensed money transmitting business, which is what Ray Youssef in his video mentioned he got charged with. Actually,
Aaron Day mentioned Ian had a letter from the state government at least saying that they don't regulate Bitcoin ATMs and don't require him to register as a money license. vendor, I guess you'd say. So he had a lawyer's opinion that he didn't need to do that. And yet he got charged with that and tax evasion. And in the trial, one of the craziest things that happened is that the IRS agent testifying in Ian's trial said, his lawyer asked, is it possible that Ian doesn't owe any of these taxes you're saying he owes because they never tried to come and talk to Ian and say he owed taxes. They never sent a letter.
They never scheduled an appointment or called him or anything like that. The day that he found out that the IRS thinks he owes taxes was the day he got hit with tax evasion, the highest tax charges that you can get. And so his lawyer asked, is it at all possible Ian doesn't owe these taxes? The IRS agent said, yes, it's possible he doesn't owe anything. That's one of the elements of these crimes. That's one of the elements of the crime tax evasion. And still the jury convicted him of four counts of tax evasion. The element would be that he at least, the IRS knows that he owed those taxes.
And they're still going after him for more, for interest and all this stuff. And they've never sat down and actually had his lawyer or an accountant or anybody look at the numbers. They just say, you sold Bitcoin and you know, all these silly rules that I don't really know how to describe, like unrealized gains and stuff like that. They're just saying he owes taxes. But the jury, obviously, we just know that the jury didn't know what they were doing. Maybe they just wanted someone to pay because it seemed like, oh, I'm hearing all these numbers. The prosecution's going up there saying Ian did this really bad thing, and she was really making privacy look like a really bad thing.
That's one thing that from the Keone Rodriguez bill, William Hill and in Ian's case that you can absolutely know for sure is that the federal government hates privacy. They kept talking about it like, isn't it suspect that Ian wants to sell to people online and he doesn't want to know what they're doing with their Bitcoin? He said, I don't want to know what you're doing with your Bitcoin after. Don't tell me that's just another reason that he was respecting people's privacy. I don't know why the jury did it, but they convicted him on all seven charges that he actually went to or eight charges that he actually went to trial for. They had dropped. They had added and dropped some.
They're just, you know, throwing things at you to like make it where every single day pretrial, which is. two years or a year and a half is just like, you don't know what's going to hit you next. And you don't know where is up and where is down. Well, the jury convicted him on all of these eight charges. And then the judge posts the jury's conviction throughout the money laundering charge and said, the prosecution never showed any evidence of that one charge. So we had to throw it out. But his lawyer, said, well, we should throw them all out because that tainted the jury. He went to the jury with eight and not seven charges, a whole other charge. The judge didn't want to hear it.
It's... a federal judge in New Hampshire named Joseph LaPlante. And he really, I can't understand how he could possibly not think that if the jury convicted on something that the prosecution in his mind showed no evidence of, that they were doing their job at all. They also, you know, convicted of those fraud charges, you know, not fraud, that's tax evasion charges. they were just out to get them. I think that there are genuinely more people out there that want to have everybody follow the government's rules know without paying any attention to freedom and not being uh pro-freedom i think there are way more people out there like that than there are people like
libertarians people who really care about freedom and that's why i don't think that the jury system is just at all because how can those possibly be your peers because our community would listen to this and see I wonder if Ian might have made a mistake here or there with his checking KYC for people making purchases and things like that. They would want to know if Ian hurt somebody and prosecute him based on that. But no, these people, it's on a whim. They're just everyday normie people. and you can't trust them with whether or not somebody was hurt or not because they don't have principles like we do about don't hurt anybody and don't take their stuff. So they're not your peers.
And you just can't, everybody in this room, not just because you're a libertarian, but just because you're in these people's jurisdiction, you're under threat every day of just getting harmed by them because they have so many laws, nobody could possibly know all of the laws. So every day, If they say you're breaking five felonies, making doing five felonies a day. Yep, that's what they say. So go to freeeannow.org, and also you can learn all, because the case is too complicated. It's not just something I can just give you like a slogan of what happened. We have a frequently asked questions We have these amazing articles written by segment. Jacob Hornberger, and you can learn more there,
and you can also sign his petition at freeeannow.org. Thank you. I'll reiterate that, freeiannow.org. We've been trying for a long time to get Ian out of prison. He's been in there about two and a half years. Again, I want to thank our sponsors, bitcoin.com, FUSDC, excuse me, FUSD on the Zeno network. Free Talk Live, The Bloodless Revolution, Think Penguin, Taggart Trading,
Pirate Chain, Dollar Vigilante, Central Jersey Libertarians, and all of our donors, we couldn't do this without you. Chris Horlacher is a Canadian entrepreneur, CPA, and advocate for individual liberty whose work has centered on challenging centralized systems through both activism and technology as a driving force behind Equibit, a blockchain-based platform designed to decentralize stock ownership and allow peer-to-peer issuance and trading of securities without traditional
intermediaries. It's just trying to make stocks available to you He helped advance a vision for more and open independent capital markets. His efforts have also placed him in direct conflict with government authorities, leading to legal battles that have become part of a broader debate over personal freedom, state power, and the consequences faced by those who openly challenge established systems. These are just the systems that pay brokerage fees to their lobbyists. I mean, you know, the people that pay their lobbyists, this is all this is. His story reflects growing tension between emerging decentralized alternatives and institutions determined to preserve
control. Good afternoon, enemies of the state. I speak to you tonight not from a stage, but from exile in Mexico, because the price of speaking truth in this age is often your passport, your safety, and sometimes your freedom itself. My name is Chris Horlacher. I can't join you in person for the same reason Maher Arar was rendered into hell, because when the Five Eyes marks you, borders become cages and airports become traps. But though I'm not in there in body, I am here in voice, and my voice carries something they fear more than any bomb or bullet,
documented proof of their crimes. In twenty sixteen, I founded Equibit Group, a Canadian company building a decentralized securities issuance and transfer protocol on blockchain. Real technology, real innovation and a threat to their system of control. So they came for us. And they didn't send men in black suits. They sent cowards hiding behind screens. My home router was hijacked through the TR-sixty-nine protocol, the digital master key that governments and ISPs embed into their equipment. They left behind logs stamped with the impossible date of nineteen eighty-one.
I watched while my DNS traffic was rerouted through American servers. I sat at my own computer and witnessed private memos stolen in real time, files copying themselves as if by an invisible hand. I've been debanked, defamed, and dismantled from within and without. Former employees broke every promise, forked our code, and kept building in secret while they buried the original company in lies. This was not random misfortune. It was controlled demolition, a modern Stasi-like zersetzung designed to
isolate, bankrupt, discredit, and break a man who dared to build tools for financial sovereignty. They wanted me silent. They wanted Equibit erased. They failed. Because here's the truth they can't delete. I have the receipts, router logs, expert forensic reports, live videos of the hacks, GitHub trails, financial records, court filings at the Ontario Superior Court of Justice. I'm making all of this public. And now I turn to you. You, the awake, the defiant,
the ones who still believe in liberty are the last line of defense. There is something terribly wrong with a world where innovators are hunted, where security systems are weaponized against the innocent, where intelligence agencies can wage war on the citizens they swore to protect, all while hiding behind the smokescreen of national security. But you have the power to end it, not with violence, with something far more dangerous to them, exposure. Go now, right now, visit EquibitLawsuit.com. Read the evidence, watch the videos,
share the links. Flood this story into every corner of the internet. Make it impossible for them to memory hole another dissident. especially one that now has them dead to rights. Because if they can do this to me, a credentialed financial professional with no criminal or any other adverse record building lawful technology with government research grants, they can do it to you. For six years, I've been a lone voice crying out from exile But the world can't ignore us all together. The masks are slipping. The tyrants are watching.
And they are afraid. Thank you. My next guest really doesn't need much of an introduction. I'd ask that everybody in the back, you know, pay attention. This is, I mean, he is truly one of America's great living heroes, Ammon Bundy.
Thank you. So I've got you for the next few minutes and I do hope that my message is heard and listened to and understood. I've sat here listening to all these stories and to be honest with you, I'm greatly bothered by the loss of our liberty. I'm bothered by the suffering of these men and their wives. And I'm bothered by the idea that this country is supposed to be protecting freedom, yet we're leading the world and taking it
away. And I hope that those in the back can be quiet enough that I can present without having to be too loud. my message is going to be a lot different than what you've heard because i'm going to start with what we refer to as the second amendment now the second amendment
course part of the Bill of Rights I'm not going to give you a history lesson of it but it does not say a well regulated voting machine being necessary for the security of a free state the right of the people to check the ballot box shall not be infringed it does not say that and there is a reason why it does not say that There's a reason why our founders did not believe that voting alone was going to secure our freedom. There's a reason why that voting harder has not improved our liberties. Now, as many of you may know,
some of you may know that I grew up in the Mojave Desert. at the very tip of the south tip of Nevada, about eighty miles east of Las Vegas. I grew up on a ranch there. My family has been ranching there now over a hundred and fifty years. They moved into that area in eighteen seventy seven. Nevada had only been a state for, I believe, thirteen years. And my family began to establish grazing rights through what's called prior appropriation of beneficial use. And they began to document those grazing rights. In fact, the state of Nevada at that time had no way for them to even document their rights. Eventually they began and created a way
that they could document them and title them, if you will, put them in a deed along with the water rights. They were designated as livestock watering rights. So they became real property, vested property, deeded with the state of Nevada. And my family depended on those waters and grazing rights to raise cattle. and to provide the American people with red meat. And that was what we did. And we did that. And basically, my father does that today in almost the same way that my ancestors did it, where they divert water throughout the desert so that the cattle can graze and
then go to the waters and survive. It's a very hard living. No one in my family has ever got rich by doing it. But I grew up in an element of freedom that I don't think very many people get to experience. And I'm grateful for that. And I believe that that is a lot of the reason why I feel the way I feel. Because I, in my life, when... In two thousand fourteen, as again, I'm not wanting to go through the whole history, but the federal government basically came and said that they were going to destroy, remove my father's cattle from the ranch after a long legal battle in these
terrible federal courts that should never be down in the states and then local level in the first place. They said that they were going to take my father's ranch and he said no. They said they're going to take it anyway. And he said, hell no. This is my mine and you're not taking it. So they sent. Two hundred and thirteen armed federal agents. With their guns and their. and their military base and their helicopters and their drones and their M-RAMs and everything you can imagine, snipers on the hills. And they began to lock down the ranch, and they threatened my family that if we resisted in any way, this would be another Waco or Ruby Ridge. That was their words.
And my family watched as they shot cattle from the air, dug massive burrows, graves to bury them they were killing and separating the baby calves from their mothers leaving him out in the desert to die and they were destroying the hundred year plus hundred plus year old water infrastructure that my family depended on and we had pure deeds from the state of Nevada they were just destroying them and my family was My father, especially, just didn't know what to do. He was watching his entire life being destroyed by these federal thugs.
what happened is we peacefully were just Ultimately, having signs on the side of the road when The trucks would come and go we didn't know what else to do. We're just sitting there like not really knowing what to do not really feeling like we had enough power to really make a difference and In one way I want to thank the idiots for doing this but they actually created what they call the First Amendment zone area and it was a construction made out of that orange construction mess and is about the big is the area we're in now and they said if anybody protest outside this
area if they try to exercise the First Amendment outside this area that they're going to be arrested said this is the only place in the entire upper peninsula the Mojave Desert that you can exercise your First Amendment right well thankfully we never complied to that and many others at the time never did so they thought that they were justified in attacking us so they came to attack us they sick their dogs on us they slammed us to the asphalt they tased us multiple times and we stood there we stood there peacefully but we stood there we're not going to mean we were not going to you know
comply at this point well people videoed that and then it went throughout all over the country and within just hours millions of people had seen it and they started coming to the ranch they started by the hundreds from all over every state including Hawaii and Alaska was represented it represented And next thing we know, we have a decent amount of people there, including militias. And everything began to change. I watched this transition in awe. I watched as my family, as we were
Watching our entire livelihood and our heritage be destroyed and our water infrastructure our cattle being killed I watched and and us being you know afraid not not knowing if we're our lives were going to even be preserved or not knowing that we had to do something but not knowing what power we had to do it and And that changed. It changed from all of a sudden them backing away and then them going into their military-like compound and then them barricading and basically feeling afraid themselves. And the only thing that changed was people showed up.
The militia showed up. everything changed all of a sudden now our rights were being respected our rights were being protected my father was now able to go out on the range and start counting the dead start trying to save the others and it was this very very interesting situation that made it so I will never think normal again if you want to call it normal I'll never think. I believe that we have been disconnected from the physical things of life so much that in many ways we don't understand what truly needs to happen in order to secure our liberty.
And what needed to happen and what needs to continue to happen is people need to unite physically and defend themselves. Now, thank you. I don't have to tell you what monsters are ruling us. I think the examples have already been given here. But all the things that have been explained here by these beautiful wives and these men and they're trying to exercise and explain what is happening here. Many of those things, almost all those things have happened to myself and my family.
And can't express enough that these are not isolated issues in the sense that you think that if they'll do that to you know someone who built software where they use basically tanks and breaking windows and rating and flash flash bangs and pointing guns with children and all of that if they'll do that to someone building software I don't have to say that they'll do it to just about they'll do it anybody and and they'll do it anybody who resists resists them in any way now I want to
before I go into the second part of my address here I want to publicly disconnect the Libertarian Party from what I'm going to say I do not hold any nobody is accountable for what I am about to say there's no conspiracy going on here and the Libertarian Party this is Ammon Bundy speaking and I believe I am going to speak the truth in its purity Because since the Bundy Ranch, because of its success, the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security and who knows what other agency, but I know purely the FBI,
has been dismantling and destroying any unity of militia or patriot groups across the United States. Why would they do that? why would they identify anybody who claims to be a patriot group or a militia and try to dismantle them why i think the answer is obvious very obvious but i want to go down through their own reports and just give you a little bit of evidence using their own reports The number one way that they are destroying the patriot groups and militias
is through infiltration and informants. Their own records say that agency may place undercover agents inside militias, recruit confident informants inside or close to militias, monitor meetings, trainings, and communications, gather intelligence on plans or leadership, that the whole point is to try to cause leadership disputes, informant distrust, ideological divisions, or member fear of surveillance. Infiltration indirectly increases fragmentations because members begin suspecting one another. Undercover agents may encourage militia
members and leaders to participate in activities that can be prosecuted. Informant infiltration goals include identifying ways to criminally prosecute leaders and members, create internal distrust between members and militia leaders, disrupt militia operations. A side effect is that militia members often become paranoid and fragmented once infiltration is suspected. The desired fallout is court's case often show groups fragmented after informant exposure to try to cause these militias to implode,
or these patriot groups to implode, to destroy themselves. Number two, leadership, prosecution, and targeting. The FBI and DHS agencies focus heavily on organizers, charismatic leaders, logistics, fundraisers, communication coordinators. Then they legally classify and enhance investigative powers, titling them domestic terrorists, gang activists, organized crime, or terrorist-related conduct. That way they can expand investigative resources interagency coordination, and prosecutorial tools.
Removing key figures weakens militia coordination, member morale, militia recruitment, and public credibility of the group. Prosecution and targeting goals include removing militia leadership, deter militia recruitment, drain leadership from militia's financial resources, and fracture organization. The overall objective is to weaken or fraction the militia by removing leadership. Number three, financial pressure. I'll just read you the goals, I won't go into detail. The financial disruption goals. Limit travel of militia leaders or members, reduce militia training capabilities,
restricting militia communication abilities, and disrupting militia organized continuity. Number four, public labeling and media pressure. Public labeling militia as extremists, anti-government, domestic terrorists, or hate groups. Labeling and media pressure goals include reputational damage to militia, loss of militia membership, employment and professional consequences of militia leaders or members, meaning to lose their jobs, and reduce public support in the militia. Note, watchdog groups, media outlets, and government agencies all contribute to this process. I'm just listing a few of the compound
reports of the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security. Now, are you scared of the word militia? I'm not. What does the Second Amendment actually say? What does it actually say? says yes they're all right but I'm gonna it says a well regulated militia being necessary for the security of a free state the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed what what is it saying there what did the founders believe and know Remember what they went through to create
independence, to create freedom, the suffering. I mean, it went on for more than a century of tyranny before they went through the bloody Revolutionary War. They knew what it took. They understood clearly what it took to create freedom and keep it. And so the Second Amendment, right after the first, the Second Amendment, they said a well-regulated militia or a well-regulated people being necessary to be free. And now we have the FBI, Department of Homeland Security, dismantling the very thing that the
founders said was going to keep us free. Now, I have lived through the courts. I have been prosecuted many, many times, including in two of the largest federal trials in probably the recent last decade or so at least. Two of them. I have seen and understand what is what goes on in those trials and for whatever reason which i believe was god protecting us for whatever reason we prevailed and i don't even understand
exactly why that happened because we not only did it once but we did it twice and it was But I have gone through the raids. I've gone through the pointing of guns. I've gone through the arrest. I've gone through years of federal prison time, never being convicted. I've gone through nearly a year of solitary confinement. I've gone through all the terrible things that they have done. I could go on and on and on and on. I understand very clearly who these people are, what they are capable of.
And I also know that unless we have a body of people that are willing to stand in physical defense, there is no court, no bureaucracy, agency, no government branch that is ever going to be accountable, that is ever going to stop growing. stop infringing stop hurting and and i tell you that message knowing with credentials it is and i as much as
i respect all that is going on here at the Libertarian Party Convention, as much as I respect the unity of this and the coming together and the true principles that are being taught, I have to testify to you that none of it will matter unless we form a well-regulated body of people to defend our liberties. None of it will matter Now, I need to wrap up. And I appreciate your attention.
And I hope you understand the seriousness of my message. Because I am not talking about an easy thing. I'm talking about an extremely difficult thing that must be done. And I don't know exactly how to do Because anybody tries. it. Anybody gets a little groundwork. and tries to unite people and begins to even talk about holding government accountable through militias, they destroy them. And there's plenty of examples of this from, I mean, January six was a perfect example. January six, I mean, I could go on, the oath keepers and on and on. They use these tactics that I just outlined. uh to destroy and to dismantle these these
militias um i don't really know what to how to do it exactly i'm just telling you at this point that it has to be done that it must be done and that i have experienced how much freedom comes when we do it i just want to say that the bundy ranch now is the freest place in the world I mean, they piled, I'm just about done, but I have to tell you the blessings of being free. Because growing up for the first, you know, first twenty plus years, almost thirty years of my life, I watched the federal government first make it what they called, you know, Bureau of Land Management land.
And then on top of that, this is my dad's ranch. And then on top of that, they made what they call a backcountry byway, which gave them more control. Then they made it an area of critical environmental concern. Then they made it a national monument. Then they made it, I mean, there was like five layers of federal control on top of it. And my dad just kept ranching a mitigation area for the desert tortoise. That was it. A desert tortoise mitigation area. right and my dad just kept ranching and ranching and they just kept threatening and threatening until in two thousand fourteen all of that happened and people showed up and then once the feds were literally driven off because of the fear
of the people We went back in there, put the cattle back, the ones that weren't killed back on the range. And my dad went back to ranching. And now let me tell you what happens. They still claim it. They still do all their environmental things. They still drive around and waste all the people's money, right? but when you see a federal law enforcement officer and he's got his big signs and all of that and his lights and he's coming down the road and my dad and his old tractor getting ready to plow pipe through the area of environmental concern because he's divide you know bringing in a new water trough over here uh what happens is the federal law enforcement officer
comes down and my dad's driving forward with his old tractor and they just pass each other and don't even look at each other And that's the way it is. My dad is free. He's free to do what his family has done for many, many years. And the only way that we are going to be free is the same way that we saw freedom come at the Bundy Ranch. And that is my message to you. And I don't know exactly how to do it, it, to realize that they can't vote harder for freedom Thank you.
Ammon Bundy will be in the back. Please feel free to mingle with the speakers. Ammon would love to talk to you back there. Thank you, Ammon. You know, enemies of the state wouldn't be here if it wasn't for the struggle of one woman. One woman that made all this possible. One woman who dreamed the impossible, who imagined something that simply could not be and made it so. Lynn Ulbricht.
Thank you. When I first found out that Ross had been arrested, basically it was like our family was hit by a tsunami. It was just insane, and it was like I was struggling, I was drowning, and kept paddling for a long time just to stay afloat and fight for him. I realized that what I had to do was save my son. and that I had to do that. So he was sent to a trial in lower Manhattan in a very big imposing building with columns as my friend Jim
Babb says, they build it as if they are gods. And every day I'd walk in past this giant statue of justice And I was a trusting American. I believe we had fair trials. I believe that, you know, things would work out. Of course Ross would be treated fairly. And I'd say, hey, Justice, I'm counting on you. And I'd walk by that statue. So I walked into that room, that courtroom, And what I saw shocked me. I don't have time to go into the details, but I saw a judge who manipulated what happened, manipulated the jury.
I saw prosecutors who were allowed to bring up uncharged crimes to sway the jury. but the jury didn't vote, didn't rule on it. I saw just over and over again, shocking. I was shocked at the way it was conducted. And so I had walked in a trusting American and I walked out a freedom fighter. I realized our freedoms are under dire threat. And I thought, well, they're too big. They're so big. How do you fight this? And I thought, well, at least don't give it away. At least they're going to have to struggle
for it. I'm not going to just roll over and, you know, surrender. And ultimately, as you all may know, Ross is a free man now. And it wasn't only Ross that was targeted in this. It was his philosophy. I think this is really important. His philosophy was not, his libertarian beliefs were specifically forbidden to be spoken of in front of the jury. The judge would not, she forbade that. very threatening beliefs. And at sentencing,
she said that you created this site for philosophical reasons, meaning the non-aggression principle, libertarian values, freedom, and I'm not sure it's a philosophy you've left behind. So, so sorry, you're gonna have to die in a cage. You're too dangerous. It's a dangerous philosophy. What is obvious from all the talks I've heard tonight and has been obvious is that that is what is really threatening the ideas that our country was founded on. And when I left so disillusioned,
I realized I still believe in those ideals, but they've been hijacked. And most people don't know it. They still think it's being applied like it's supposed to be. They think we have fair trials. They believe in that. They don't know. I didn't know. And so what's happening here is just It's very dire, the situation, as far as I can see, that innocent and peaceful people are being caged. And Ross said he's met a lot of people in prison. He was in a maximum security prison for
years. And he said easily over half of those people don't belong in there. They shouldn't be in there. We are literally caging people like the ones you've heard about tonight who don't belong in prison. We have to take this seriously and fight for our rights, fight for our God-given rights that are being slowly or very quickly sometimes eroded. And that's why I couldn't quit fighting.
much as sometimes i would like to um uh and even though i have my son back thank god thank and i'm so grateful that you know president trump wanted the libertarian vote came to to the libertarians libertarians allowed him to come thank you angela and um mccardle yeah and um said he would free him and he did he was enough of a wild card to do that um but i have ross back thank god but it's a miracle really but um then how can i all the people
i met who are in prison or their families seeing the children crying clinging to their fathers uh knowing the uh pain and suffering that i went through and my family went through this has widespread ramifications and we're being attacked and so i can't stop at least trying to help and um so i've created an organization called mothers against cruel sentencing relying on the constitution The eighth amendment of the Bill of Rights prohibits cruel punishment our founders did not did not intend what's going on now at all and So there's information
there my goal is to make a big noise and have people wake up because I said I don't think most people understand what's really going on and I to talk about it, to make noise about it, and bring political pressure through that noise. That's how the movement for Ross started. So there's information around. I invite you to join me in doing this, however you can. or supporting these guys, supporting Max, and it's not Max also of course supports all the crypto prisoners, but also there are thousands of people that shouldn't be in there.
There's almost, I've read the statistic around three thousand cannabis people, prisoners, who are serving long sentences, decades long sentences, or life, life for cannabis, things like that, for crypto, life for cryptocurrency. You know, it's just, it's out of control. So anyway, I invite you to please help me and let's make some noise. Let's get some people out of prison.
Lynn will be in the back for your mingling pleasure. When I think of Ross Ulbricht, I think of three people that made it possible. I think of Lynn, I think of Roger Ver, and I think of our next speaker, Angela McArdle. when she had an opportunity to ask for, Angela, she went before the genie and the genie said, what do you want? And she said to free Ross. That kind of selflessness, I really can't thank her enough. Angela McArdle.
Thank you, thank you. Do you want to get someone freed? I think you should. I think it's a really good goal. When I got the call that President Trump wanted to talk to me and meet with me, and he wanted to know what the libertarians want, the first thing I thought was in the Fed. And I realized that he couldn't do it. So that was a really bad ask. So I sweated and fretted and tried to think about what can I ask that he could actually do. And I think the only person I actually asked the advice of was Michael Malice, who was like, Angela, you have to do it. You have to do it. I didn't actually ask Lynn because I didn't want to put that pressure on her. So I made the ask first.
So ask do the thing and ask for forgiveness later Yeah, it's been it's been a thing it's been a thing a lot of people loved it a lot of people really hated it You can all go fuck yourselves. I was correct. I was correct and we're gonna get more people out of prison and I am traveling the country right now with some of some of the people who are married to people who are in prison and You guys heard from Lauren Rodriguez earlier, right? Lauren and I have been to a few events together. I've gotten to know Lauren. I've gotten to know Keone through phone calls before he went to prison and, you know, core links, corrections, emails afterwards. It's pretty heavy.
It's pretty hardcore. to be talking to people who are incarcerated you guys heard from bonnie too um you know i've gotten to know bonnie and ian pretty well again talking to ian through corrections emails uh you know they get to read anything and everything you write it's really intense and it's really gross and wrong that they're in prison and i think you know the good news is we actually have a chance to get them out Because, against all odds and lots of political pressure, I've kept a good relationship with the administration. And people are like, ew, why would you do that? Why would you na-na-na-na-na-na? It's because that's why. And we're going to do it again.
And we're going to do it again. And we're going to do it again. and if i have to crawl through broken glass eight months pregnant to do it i'll do it because it needs to be done and someone has to step up so here i am so here's what i need from you guys i need support and i need help we need to get keone rodriguez out of prison we need to get william hill out of prison we need to get ian freeman out of prison who by the way has been a generous benefactor to the liberty movement in new hampshire and at large an incredibly generous person is just gross and wrong that he's rotting in prison right now we need to get him back home to bonnie we need to get roman sterlingov out
of prison those of you who were at the bitcoin event thursday night did you hear that man call in from federal prison and talk on the phone so painful to hear he's like mr rogers he's so incredibly sweet and kind he didn't even create the stupid bitcoin fog mixer twelve years in prison horrifying we need to get him out and reunite him with his family and we need to keep roman storm from going into prison because the prosecution is going to try him again. The man has spent ten million dollars on his legal defense and they're going to make him do it again. Now, Mimos have been in. President Trump is aware. We are competing with the Iran war, which I know you guys are big fans of, right?
We are competing with the Thomas Massie drama. We are compete, well, you know, mostly that's over, but we still have to deal with the aftermath. We're competing with Medicaid fraud. We're competing with ICE drama. Everybody's fighting to be the number one issue on the president's desk. I'm fighting for these guys to all be the number one issue on the president's desk. Are Kat and Bonnie in the room right now? Kat is right here. Kat is wonderful. She has postcards. Here's what we're doing. I am mailing all of these. We are mailing them on your behalf to Mar-a-Lago. I need you to look at this, and if you agree with it, do one thing for me, sign your name.
will get them filled out okay don't worry about that don't write in the address section because that's not your address that goes to the president we have to put that down there He needs to hear from you because he's heard from me, you know, and he's heard from people in a press room, but he needs to hear from you. He needs to hear from libertarians and the Bitcoin community that you care about this. He knows about a lot of other issues that you care about. This needs to go to the top because this is something he can do with a stroke of a pen. It's not Congress. It's not cabinet secretaries fighting him on shit. It's not deep state. It's just me asking him and you guys backing me up.
And then we can get these guys home. They can go back home to their families. They can start families, some of them who are waiting to start. They're literally like, I hope I can get out of prison so I can have children. Let's help them make that a reality. um and thank you and thank you guys so much for for those of you who have supported this effort i'm going to continue to do it because i think it's the right thing i believe in it i want lauren to be at home with her husband again like we're so close just help me get across the finish line have a great night
readjust this microphone. Our next speaker taller than I am so. i want to send a quick shout out to everybody who's watching on x right now i saw two thousand live viewers what that means when sal and i for those who don't know i do a show with sal the agorist on wednesday nights when we see about two thousand live viewers that's our indication that we're gonna hit over a hundred thousand recorded views over time X doesn't count people who just popped in and popped out. You have to spend a certain amount of time. And these viewers have stuck with it. They've been all the way through this.
I've seen some growth and I appreciate it. Thank you guys. I wanna bring up Erin Day for a second speech. She's gonna be talking about, well, what we can do to get these guys Erin Day. out. do you have the slides all right good sure a little higher okay so you may wonder who i am and actually why even i'm here i learned about the free state project in two thousand six two thousand
seven from ian and mark And I moved to New Hampshire in two thousand and nine and have been there ever since. I learned about Bitcoin in twenty twelve from Roger Ver. Both of these men have had a huge impact on my life. When I moved to New Hampshire, though, I actually saw what Ian was doing. He was doing a lot of civil disobedience and all of these things. And I said, you know, I don't know if that's the right way to go. I think the real way to achieve liberty in our lifetime is through the Republican Party and through politics. And so I spent years working on this, along with my wife, Eileen, who was the head of the New Hampshire Liberty Alliance. I ran various political groups, PACs.
We recruit candidates, get candidates elected. And then finally, and you'll hear some more of the story and what the strategy is here, decided to exit politics. I decided, you know, Ian was right. Stopped voting, stopped using a bank account, started focusing a hundred percent of my attention on building parallel systems. Then I saw that Ian was getting targeted and others that were at this intersection of crypto and Liberty were being targeted. Like, why is that? So then I learned about CBDCs and I went really deep into CBDCs. I wrote a book called The Final Countdown and I learned that a hundred and thirty four countries are working on CBDCs and the US has already done three CBDC pilots.
And then I learned that CBDCs are part of technocracy and technocracy is a political ideology that is completely antithetical to libertarianism. It's the idea that we're too stupid to make decisions for ourselves. Elites need to make decisions for us. There's no price-based economy. Everything's an energy credit system with social credit scores. It's the end of free will itself. So for the last three and a half years, we've been warning people about technocracy and saying that the solution to technocracy isn't voting, it's to exiting the system, starting with ditching the dollar. Well, then Ian gets arrested. He goes through his sentencing hearing and
we sat at that sentencing hearing where he got eight years and it was just disgusting. The energy in that room, I mean, being a libertarian for a long time, it's not like I expect good things from the government, but there's something about the fact that when the deck is stacked already in their favor and they still omit information and have absolutely no regard for the truth. that just touched me to my core. So in addition to starting to talk about technocracy, now all of a sudden I find myself defending crypto prisoners because it's all related. The crackdown on crypto is to roll out CBDCs and to roll out social credit That's why these guys are targeted. systems.
It's not random. So if you want to hit the slides. So Angela has a very nice approach to things. And if you're not familiar with my political activism, I tend to have a different approach. And that's definitely been my experience in politics in New Hampshire. I think that there's an opportunity here. And if you actually look at how Trump works, we need leverage. And I appreciate, by the way, I make people uncomfortable, and I know that if you have a loved one who's in prison, you don't necessarily want to hear somebody out ranting about Trump or talking about these policies in a negative light, because Trump is the only person that can
pardon these people. I take this incredibly seriously. For two years, I was doing advocacy for other crypto prisoners. And, you know, I found myself in situations where people from Bloomberg and New York Times and Wall Street Journal would want to interview me. And I would really think about it. And the decision I would make is what are the odds that Bloomberg wants to quote me in a way that's going to help this person? And I said, I decided, you know what, I'm not going to do these interviews. because we didn't have any leverage. It could only be downside. So I want to talk about Trump and what motivates Trump. Trump is all about the art of the deal. He is completely and totally
transactional. He literally wrote a book about it in nineteen eighty seven. And if you look at what happened. Why I think Ross is free is two reasons one lynn's determination and absolute unwillingness to quit i met lynn for the first time in and she was at every pork fest every event that drive that passion that that that did it but then angela helped bring it over the finish line because she had leverage let's go back to in where we were Trump had to win that election. If Trump lost in twenty twenty four,
he was looking at a hundred years in prison. So he needed to make a deal. The deal was made and the deal was successful. Actually, if you look at Wisconsin, it looks like, you know, the third party support didn't turn out for the third party. And Trump probably won Wisconsin because of this. But it was that leverage that was necessary. How is he going to prioritize what he's going to do? If you do an analysis of all of his pardons, you'll find that usually there's some kind of deal-based component to it. And he even said it. He said, if you vote for me on day one, I will commute Ross Ulbrich's sentence. It was a deal. That was the entire... So then people are often wanting to say, well,
you don't want to say anything that might offend Trump. But again, I'm going back to, he's very transactional in nature. RFK made statements about Trump being a threat to the United States. If you actually go through and look at some of these other slides, you had Marco Rubio. He's a con artist, unfit for the nuclear codes. This was during the election process. Hey, maybe he was right. JD Vance, our vice president called him America's Hitler. And so this goes on and on. Ted Cruz had all kinds of negative things to say about Trump and now he is the biggest ally for Trump in the United States Senate. So over and over again,
so what I'm trying to say here is I'm trying to set the stage for you can speak openly about Trump, but if you have leverage, he'll make a deal. So I'm trying to say this as a comforting way to lead into the strategy that I'm proposing. And by the way, if you look at it, since the election, things have not gone well. And I know people are pretty disappointed about the Iran war, about tariffs, about the war on crypto, about backdoor CBDCs. It's not been a great libertarian agenda by any stretch of the imagination. And he even talked about Kony Rodriguez's case in December, and still nothing has happened. So the situation as it stands right now
is, well, how do we get leverage? How do we get him to the table to make a deal? Well, Trump's in a difficult situation. If you look at the prediction markets, he's going to lose the House. And right now, the Senate is fifty-fifty. It's a dead heat, according to the prediction markets. In my state of New Hampshire, The Republican candidate, John E. Sununu, is down one point to the Democrat. This is considered one of the most strategic races in the country for control of the United States Senate. I'm going to build up into something here, Well, but Johnny Sununu is not a fan of
liberty. Johnny Sununu is very much the kind of technocrat that I've been talking about. He voted for the Patriot Act. He voted for Real ID. He voted for TARP. He became the chair of the TARP oversight committee. And then based on that experience, became the chair of Klaus Schwab's WEF finance committee. And then he lost an election and then became a lobbyist working for one of the most parasitical lobbying firms in Washington, D.C. So he's not exactly the kind of Republican that you want to put into office. On top of that, how many people are upset about Thomas Massey? One of the biggest funders of the election
against Massey was Miriam Adelson. Miriam Adelson put forty million dollars into a pack. And seventeen, she's not the full contribution to the pack, but seventeen million dollars worth of this pack money is going to John E. Sununu if he wins the primary. So in New Hampshire, if you're in New Hampshire and you think John E. Sununu is a Liberty guy, not based on his track record and not based on his funding source. So yeah, this was a huge situation. As I said, Adelson was one of the primary funders of this campaign against Massey.
So now a little bit about me and the strategy. So as I said, I got out of politics, but I was in politics in a very big way in New Hampshire. We recruited candidates at the state and you'll hear everybody from the Free level, State talk about how great the State House is. we ran a super PAC to get candidates Well, elected in twenty fourteen and we want enough candidates to get a speaker of the House elected to overturn Obamacare Medicaid expansion. This is one of the primary reasons that we did this. Republicans hated Obamacare Medicaid expansion. It was the number one thing in the platform that the party was against. Kelly Ayotte, a sitting U.S. senator, intervened in our speaker's race
so that the speaker that we worked hard to get elected would basically ended up losing by one vote. And this was done so that Obamacare Medicaid expansion wouldn't be repealed. And that was done to protect her position and to protect what she believed were her odds of winning the US Senate. Well, I'm in New Hampshire. I believe in New Hampshire. I subscribe to the idea of screw DC, but if we're gonna work our asses off at the state level only to find out we lose on a multi-billion dollar entitlement because of a federal government politician, I look at that as an existential threat to the entire strategy in New Hampshire. So I said, you know what? I gave a year's notice.
I said, I'm gonna recruit a slate of candidates If you continue and you don't repeal Obamacare based on this whole situation, I'm gonna recruit a slate of candidates and we're gonna cost you every federal race in New Hampshire. And I'm gonna run for US Senate as an independent, not in a primary and not even as a libertarian, as an independent. there was a libertarian in there and Well, That's a longer story. I was trying to run as a libertarian, but there are some interesting dynamics anyway. Here are the results. Kelly at lost. She lost by a thousand votes.
I got almost eighteen thousand votes. It was the most expensive U.S. Senate race per capita in the history of the United States. Next. Turns out the whole slate was effective. We were the margin of difference. I talk about the U.S. but the independent candidates that we Senate race, have also cost the other two congressional districts, making it the first time since eighteen fifty four that the Republicans didn't have that New Hampshire didn't have a Republican in the United States Congress.
So the upshot of this was I got sued. I spent five and a half years in two hundred and seventy million dollars worth of litigation. Eight judges recuse themselves. Case got thrown out, then it got pushed to the state Supreme Court where they overturned it. Three of the judges were actually picked by Chris Sununu. And then when they were delivering on this, they said, well, you know, I guess Aaron will get his day in court. I dealt with this for five and a And so a lot of people don't realize half years. I'm politically active or they're like, what happened to this guy? Because I basically disappeared for five and a half years. And because I don't believe in politics,
people have been maligning me and then trying to misrepresent what I did and so And I didn't bother with it because I on and so forth. wasn't going to engage in politics. Oops, sorry, go back, go back. But now I think is the time to reengage because as I think about the threat of technocracy and I see what's going on with these prisoners of war, I can't in good faith go and promote parallel solutions and privacy coins while the people who innovated, the people who introduced the world to these things sit in a cage. I can't do it. I can't do it morally. I won't do it. I'm going to run for U.S. Senate again, or I should say I may run for
Senate, provided, unless, I should say, U.S. the administration follows through on what they committed to do. And what I'm asking for here isn't unreasonable. Ten years ago, I asked the Republicans to uphold the number one item in their party platform, and they wouldn't do it. And by the way, they didn't believe me. I met with a previous governor. I met with the chair of the Republican Party. And they said, you know what? We don't believe you. You'll never do it. It'll never be successful. And when it was successful, I got sued. I got threats of violence from billionaire hedge fund managers that put money into the pack. The whole thing was somewhat of a disaster in that regard.
But the thing is, the one thing that they know is it worked. And they know that I've announced this and they're all very aware of what's going on with this. I think this might be a piece of the leverage that we need to get these crypto prisoners pardoned. And again, it's a deal. And so I've listed kind of four demands One is free the crypto prisoners. to start. The other is kill the Clarity Act. The Clarity Act is the largest surveillance bill in the history of the United States. People think it is a pro crypto bill. Do you think it sounds like a pro crypto bill if all of your financial transactions are tracked for five years? That information shared with multiple
departments of the federal government and foreign central banks, does that sound like a pro crypto bill? it's not even about crypto they're going to take that same set of regulations and they're going to apply it to the tokenization of everything you own stocks bonds and so forth all of that's going to be trackable and sensible in the same way it is klaus schwab's wet dream the clarity act it is how we will own nothing so that's another one fire howard lutnik and end the draft So that is my starting position in this race. Again, I think he should free all of the crypto prisoners. I don't even see what's complicated about this.
He freed all of the J-sixers. He's not expending political capital. He's following through on what he said. This should be done very simply and very easily. So here are the deadlines and here are the key milestones with this race so that you understand what's going on. Sorry, let's go back to that last one. June the twelfth is when I have to indicate, declare that I am going to become a candidate because I'm an independent. Because I'm an independent, Thank you. I have to collect signatures to get on the ballot. I need three thousand signatures, fifteen hundred from each congressional district. This is the most time consuming and costly part of the campaign. So I will be looking for help on
that if if you are so inclined and we could knock it out pretty quickly if we got organized with it. September the second is when once I get the signatures, we submit the signatures, then I would become an official candidate. Or excuse me, that's the actually that's the date I believe of the primary. And then November the third is the general Now, again, election. the point here is I don't want to be in the general election. The point is that. The threat of doing this should be enough. But make no mistake about it, I will follow through. I followed through last time, much to everybody's great disappointment. And I am more motivated to do it now than I was before. I mean,
it's how the campaign is going to work. This is not going to be a normal campaign. If you follow me at all, you know I'm fairly big into AI. And so this campaign, I've invested probably a hundred thousand dollars and four thousand hours into AI. The campaign is going to be pretty wild with respect to the use of AI. And beyond that, I'm going to go around the state and I'm going to give talks, the same talks that I have been giving for the last three and a half years, which is to teach people that your rights don't come from government. And not that I'm going to go to Washington, D.C. and fix your problems. No one is going to fix your problems in Washington, D.C. That is my message.
You need to exit the dollar, exit the health care system, and take your free will back. That will be the same message. I don't want this to be a waste of time in terms of the campaign itself, but realistically, no one is going to fix this. The best model we had was Thomas Massey because he exposed what was going on, and we saw what happened to him. So what this campaign does is a little not being able to see the slides, weird, not, but this campaign is an opportunity to provide leverage. Leverage for those four demands is also the opportunity to basically get back or to, to receive, um, geez.
Well, no, it's not to get the queen from the pond. It's it's to get retribution for what happened to Thomas Massey, because we're talking about the same funding sources. this race can be this i want national attention on this race i'm saying this race can control the united states senate one thing i forgot to mention at my race last time i did a breitbart interview in and i said if the republicans don't repeal Medicaid expansion, I will cost them control of the United States Senate. And that's exactly what happened from twenty twenty to twenty twenty to not being there for those last two to two years. So when I make these statements, because normally if somebody says this,
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, I've already I've already done this. We've already shown that this can work. And so now it's time to do it again. I'm going to have a lot of backlash from even people within our own movement. A lot of people have kind of taken this position that, well, we can't do anything about Washington, D.C., so we'll just go along with it because we can get the money. And there are people in the Free State we need this Miriam Adelson money to Party like, yeah, protect our statehouse races. Are you fucking kidding me? And if we do this again, we can prove the third party lever. There's a lot of discussion at this conference, people wanting to shut down the third
party, people that will tell you, well, in this particular system, you can only have two parties. A third party is perhaps the only way we can keep the main two parties honest. If we actually take this model and are strategic about it, this can be a way to actually enforce some accountability within the duopoly. So with that said, you can go to day twenty twenty six dot com and learn more about the campaign. But I would like your help sharing this information and putting spotlight on this campaign. I think this campaign can be one of the best drivers for the crypto prisoners, as well as for some of these other issues. And it should certainly get attention with
Trump because I know they are very concerned about losing control of the Senate. Angela is right. He's got a lot of priorities, the Iran war, so on and so forth. But let's be clear, if he loses the House and he loses the Senate, he's going to be impeached again. So this is a very clear deal. Thank you. I didn't know Aaron Day was going to come up here and tell the whole plan, but I've got to say thank you. Thank you for what you do. I think this is the only way that
these guys get out. I mean, you know, begging and pleading. The government is used to you begging and pleading. You've been pleading for your money your whole life, and those bastards will take it from you because they haven't worked a day in theirs. They are leeches, they are parasites, and they don't give a damn about you. They don't give a damn about these guys. You got to get them where it hurts. You got to grab them by the short and curlies. And somebody like Aaron Day is willing to do it. Thank you. So I'm committing financial support to Aaron Day's campaign because I believe that financial support
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This transcript was generated from The Aaron Day Show episode "Enemies of the State Rebroadcast".