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6/19/2026

The Daylight Phone Is Here - De-Googled, Zano Built In, Zero Big Tech

Episode 19 of Season 3

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all right we're back uh on the aaron day show with uh returning guest hakim anwar and uh today is finally the exciting day we've been talking about this for months and i've been talking about this on multiple episodes and we're finally officially releasing the above phone uh daylight phone daylight version of the phone and uh so today we're gonna walk through what it's all about, how it works, and why actually we're even doing it, and how it maps to the overall strategy for the Daylight Freedom Foundation and all the various things that we're working on. And so a lot of this, actually, even between the time we're pre-recording this, so there are going to be some changes

to the way some of these websites work. work and how they operate between now and when this actually goes live. But we'll hit on the key points in any event. And in fact, let me share my browser. I haven't even launched all of these sites And the truth is, yet. I haven't launched the new own nothing So most people are going to be seeing site. this for the very first time unless they happen to be looking through and clicking through the various links. But I've not actively promoted this site at all. But the big area and direction that we're going in is to move towards action,

to empowering people to take back control of their lives, to improve their sovereignty in actually ten different areas. You see on the screen here at ownnothing.org, nine areas, but we're actually going to add a tenth, which is AI. And so, you know, I've watched a lot of these other podcasts and Hakeem and I were just at the Libertarian Party National Convention, which was a conversation for another day. But there are a lot of movements or podcasts that are all about talking about problems or talking about the political problem. Or at this point, some of these things have become meta conversations where it's not even about the problem. It's about podcasters fighting each other

for their various views about politics. a various problem. But no one's actually doing anything. I've actually looked at a lot of these podcasts and I say, well, what do people actually get out of this? What do you get out of the latest rant between Candace Owens and whoever it is that she's... Dick Fuentes or whatever. When you watch that content, at the end of the day, how does that move the needle? How does that improve your life? And so... All of the various sites that we've created, and there are now seven of them in are all designed to either empower you total, with knowledge about the threat of technocracy, which is critical, which is actually something that most people are unaware of.

In terms of the magnitude, people are starting to wake up about data centers, but data centers are only the tip of the iceberg. It's only one part of the technocratic So waking people up to that, threat. but then the next question becomes, well, what are you going to do about it? Well, you're not going to vote your way out What you can do is take very specific of it. actions to withdraw your energy from these technocratic systems, but move them into something else. And that something else doesn't have to be, by the way, which I see a lot of this kind of bunker mentality of, We're going to have our own intentional community and we're going to fortress, create our own little fortress or

whatever. And I'm not saying that those are bad ideas, but there is another alternative out there beyond everyone's knitting their own clothes. And growing their own food. There's a different kind of model moving forward. So what we're providing now are tools, actionable tools to help people in these nine domains and the tenth being AI. And I'll go through and just kind of list them off now. But then we're going to... go through them one by one and actually talk about how the above phone actually helps improve in each of these domains. And this is actually why I'm launching the Because after years of doing workshops, phone. trying to onboard people to crypto,

doing a whole bunch of these things piecemeal, I will tell you it's very time consuming. The amount of time and money and effort just to do a workshop for a hundred in a different location is massive. people. And so we're facing this big technocratic threat and we need to be able to move quickly. it's not going to work a fifty or And frankly, a hundred person workshop at a time. We need to be able to scale this up. And we need to be able to scale up. I mean, I did four hour workshops just on technocracy and then onboarding you to a couple of different wallets. And as you'll see, If you get one of these phones, you actually are immediately powered up in

more than just having one or two different crypto wallets. This hits all of these areas. So the areas are owning your own mind, which at the end of the day is the most important of all. People need to reclaim their cognitive liberty. They need to reclaim their free will. And realize that you are in control of your own life and your own decisions, your own thoughts, emotions, and actions. Own your own privacy. Own your own money. Own your own attention. Own your own body. Own your own food. Own your kid's future. own what you bought and own your own word. And then the last one now being own your own AI, which I now think is critically important enough to put as its own domain because

of how now omnipresent this is. And there are a lot of people that still look at AI as... It is a bubble in some respects. Some of the data center stuff is a bubble, but AI absolutely... is going to impact in probably a larger way than any other technology, everyone's lives. And so the question is, are you going to be using AI in a passive way that is driven by big tech where you're the product or are you driving AI to enhance your thinking and enhance your life in a way that you control and where you control the data? And so we're making it its own tenth point. So with that point,

I think we're going to go through these. I don't know, Hakeem, what do you think is the best way to go through this? Do you want to do a general overview of the phone or do you want to jump in on each of these point by point? Yeah, Aaron, it's so good to join you, man. And I will say that this is a pretty pioneering moment for our phone because we've never had any sort of crypto app on it whatsoever. We've just never wanted to pick a side. There are so many different projects out there. But I think what's been great working with you is getting to see the other dark side of crypto and you've opened my mind to those things and so um i'm really excited that we can be

partnering together with um a lot of major players who are aligned in principles so the apps like xeno are on this phone and that's really really exciting to me because for the first time we're not competing we're working together we're collaborating and that's exactly what it's going to take to shift over millions of people to private technology So yeah, just just a brief intro. I'm Hakeem. I'm the CEO of above phone. We've known Aaron for more than a year now, and we're excited about this project. This is a custom edition of our standard above phone, which is a de-Googled phone based off of Graphene OS. De-Googled means that it makes zero connections to big tech. That's our promise to you.

We audit that, we verify that on a regular basis, but still it's easy to use. It already comes with everything you need, including all these awesome apps that Aaron has developed for you along with his team. I think we could start with the nine So, yeah, areas, maybe go through them one by one. And starting with Own My Mind, which I really love that that's the first one, because you mentioned earlier, it's like, what are we spending our time and attention on? Are we just watching beefs between Candace Oven, Bongino, all these talking heads who really are doing nothing? So, yeah, Owning Your Mind, it really does start with that one. Let me bring the phone up on screen so you can see it.

So you guys see that? There we go. Cool, the daylight phone. So yeah, the first thing you're gonna notice about the phone is that there is no ads on it whatsoever. So I could go to any of the apps, I could even go to YouTube and watch one of Aaron's videos. Here, let me search for Aaron Day. Here we go. And perhaps on a normal YouTube app, it would actually start playing an ad right before you start. And it'd be trying to get you to buy whatever product for depression or a weight gain or anything, right? Just trying selling stuff to you.

But on this phone, you're going to find that there's no advertising whatsoever, even in the web browser. there is very little advertising. So if I search for something, I'll just search for the same thing, Daylight Freedom. Normally, you search on any other phone, you're going through big tech search engines. The first And guess what? First few results are not going to be what you searched. They're going to be ads trying to sell you something with companies that paid good money to get those ads in front of your face. That's why advertising is a billion dollar industry. Well, hey, not on this phone. There are multiple different layers that protect your mind,

filter out the ads and even block it on the VPN level. It's actually blocking all the advertising infrastructure that will normally show you So that's one thing you're going to feel ads. is like, whoa, whoa, I have my mind back. I'm not constantly being probed by messaging or advertising. And it feels really, really good. So I love that you started with Own My Mind. That's a big spiritual aspect. Excellent. I'm just going to have to jump in Yeah, and out here. But yeah, so we're very excited about this. And again, we had Hakeem on and I encourage you to look at our prior interview, which I think we were talking a lot about digital IDs. So, I mean, we are incredibly aligned,

I think, on both kind of the ideology, the threat here. and so forth. And I'm excited. I'm using the phone myself. My wife and I both have one of these phones and we've been using them now for, I don't know, a couple of months. And it's a phenomenal phone. I was actually surprised I have better cell phone service where I am. Which kind of surprised me. I'm not going to spoil that. We can get into some of the other aspects of this. That's super common, right? We have this expectation because it's big tech, Apple and Google. They have these billions of dollars that your experience is not going to match up with an alternative phone. But that's actually not the case.

There's a lot of n-shitification happening. happening behind the scenes, making your phone slower because the bandwidth that I'd normally be using is now being used to run ads or to run surveillance. So, yeah, that's great. And, you know, I really encourage, it's great that you and your wife, Helene, using it um and collaborating with it are because you know that's really what it's for it's for those sacred relationships where you keep everything private so you can talk about real things and unfortunately nowadays you know there's there's a lot of activists there's a lot of people who are doing something but they would not be able to keep their plans private to themselves so we we need more

people using these folks absolutely uh great do you want to move on to privacy Sure. I mean, that's a good segue into owning my privacy. So state unpermitted channels, surveillance exit. So, I mean, Yeah. I'm actually working on a piece now talking about a lot of this honeypot, honeypot privacy infrastructure that I see, like, for instance, Signal or Tor, which that's the first thing that you'll hear recommended by any big YouTuber. Oh, you want to have more privacy? Use Signal, right? It's just checking off the box. Here you go. Here's a get private quick pill. But that's not the reality of the situation is a lot of these privacy solutions that are touted by people,

There's not critical thinking happening about who made the solution, who's it funded by. So when you look at Signal and Tor, and I'm making videos about this on my own channel called Take Back Our Tech. But when you look into who's behind it, you find, oh, crap, it's the government. The government is making my privacy tools. And I don't know about you, but I thought seeing government-based or intelligence agency mass surveillance is the reason why privacy movement started to flourish. you know, since the Snowden revelation. So so state unpermitted channels. Yes, that's so true. Let me bring the phone up. So instead of using Signal, we have different solutions like XMPP. Now,

XMPP is a federated messaging protocol. That means it's kind of like email. You sign up to a server. And then you can send encrypted messages to anyone on the XMPP network with something that looks like an email. Not only can you send messages, but you can do voice calls, video calls. You can send files. There's many, many cool ways you can use this for yourself. You can even bridge this out to the phone network. And then you can start dialing people. You can start dialing people internationally. You can use the same app I'm using right now. And you can send them text messages. You can call them. So and you do all of that without a SIM card. So this Internet phone number is a way

to break past having a cell service even and starting to take back your privacy. Now, the anti-encrypted messaging as a part of XMPP, that's what's going to keep you the most private. But there's many tools that you can use on the phone. So you get to start to own your privacy that way. There's also private ways to download the apps that you would normally use. So here is something called Aurora Store. This will allow you to download apps from normal app stores that you would normally have to sign into your big tech account, your Apple or Google account. But instead on this one, you get an anonymous account and you can start to download anything without needing an account and again y'all

you know where these identifiers are leading you know where your google and apple account are leading they already know your identity through your credit card soon they will become your digital id these these players are going to be the ones rolling it out they already have google pay apple pay it's accepted at the airports with google wallet and apple wallet where do you think this is going so we need to do our best to separate our identities from the devices we use this is going to be a big deal in the years to come So by not having to sign into an account, you are kept anonymous. You actually own your privacy. Thoughts on that, Aaron? Oh, you're muted.

Yeah, there are a lot of other... I mean, it's almost hard to go into all the different privacy features on this phone. But I think we're using VP.net as VPN. At least I know I'm using this on here as well. And there are a lot of other apps. I mean, do you want to talk about some of the other... I mean, obviously, we'll talk about the Daylight apps. I'll go through that in a bit. But I'm impressed with the collection of apps that are on here. So if you want to walk through that, that would be great. Yeah, right on. Yeah, so I mean, we've gone ahead and found the best free and open source apps that you can even use on an alternative phone. So I'll just show you a few of them.

without rooting them because we have other sections to go to. These apps will typically all work offline. So let's look at one of them for podcasts. So here you go. Here's something you can use to find podcasts. But the difference is that you're not going through a third-party service. You're actually connecting directly to the podcast index. So if I want to search for the Aaron Day Show, Aaron Day, here we go. Here we are. I'm subscribed and check this out. I could just download the entire episode and it's going to download in a few seconds. Boom. There it is. And now I have it on my phone. I don't need to be connected to the Internet. I can just listen to this.

So, yeah, this is his May fifteen show. You saw how easy that it was. Right. Imagine doing that for all of your content creators. which fits in with other principles on there. There's also, in addition to the apps, which are all free and open source, there's also these privacy features as you get to break down which permissions your apps are actually using. So for example, you have control of the microphone and camera for each individual app. But not only that, you can actually go down into your photos and videos and choose, hey, I only want this app to have access to one particular folder on my device. So instead of it on a normal phone, you give it access,

you give an app access to your entire phone. That's ridiculous. You give it access to your entire phone. On this phone, you can choose, pick and choose what you want to give it access to. So this is a way to allow yourself You can even start to use some of to use. these junk food apps. Some of our customers in Latin America, they have to use WhatsApp, right? There's everyone there down there uses WhatsApp. So they're able to use WhatsApp, but minimize their exposure. They maximize their privacy by limiting what WhatsApp can do. So yeah, those are a few more features. Like you're going to have so much more control of your permissions. They have to ask your permission to set their permissions.

So really, really, you're going to be off to a really good start. And again, you don't have these God level centralized software services from Google and Apple that are watching everything that you do. Yeah. And what are your thoughts about the direction of what's going on now with digital IDs, with age verification? My wife told me that I think she was logged into X or something today. Or Grok, sorry. Grok wanted to know her age. It seems every day... Either, you know, an app that I'm using is asking for more information or I'm hearing about countries all over the world that are trying to impose essentially these digital IDs using protecting children and age, so forth.

But what do you see the trend as being right now? Yeah, I see it coming quickly everywhere. And the age checks are a part of it. But the countries that don't have a mandatory digital ID program, we're quickly headed in that direction. And as I've said before, Twenty twenty seven is going to be a very big year for that. That's the year that digital ID becomes a mandated option in the EU. So every company must be willing to accept digital ID. That's the same for Australia. I'm going to assume I mean, I'm feeling I'm feeling that. or digital IDs here in America,

mainly Apple Wallet, Google Wallet, the passports that you can get to prove your identity to the TSA. Those will also become more mainstream in twenty, twenty seven. And so this is, again, people must remember that digital ID is just the first foundational pillar of a system called digital public infrastructure. So what comes after digital ID is digital payments and also information exchange. So anything that you do in your life, whether it's paying for parking on the street or buying something from a website, these big companies are all working hand in hand to require your identity for it and we need companies that are speaking out against it and offering you alternatives i

mean i don't know about y'all but we're one of the only tech companies that are speaking out about digital id how many companies have have taken a philosophical opposition to it not many um and we need to just raise this vibe and demand that from the companies we want to support. So I think soon everyone will have a It's either, hey, choice. you go to your Fortune five hundred big box retailers, like I'm talking grocery stores, which will require your digital ID to enter after a certain point in time. It may not be this year, it may not be next year, but that's the direction we're headed. And you need to make sure you have all of your contacts on your phone peer to peer.

So you're never going to have to comply. That's critically important. And I know last time you were on, we were actually talking about this because you wrote a lengthy research report on the state of digital IDs. And I think we both came to the conclusion, you certainly had more research than I, that twenty twenty eight is really the the target date around the world for date, people to have for countries to have kind of this interconnected digital ID system in place. And it is moving faster than people think. people realize and you mentioned that is digital ids are the founding pillar but then digital payments are next and so that's really the third uh pillar here is

that you should own your own money and this is this is really uh exciting for me obviously i you know i've started my venture here three and a half years or so ago talking about cbdcs and have since kind of transformed into you know being privacy coin only as being kind of the direction that I've gone into. But one of the problems with privacy coins has been usability. I'm just going to say this flat out. Some of the tools and some of the wallets out there have been somewhat difficult to use. And a lot of the technology has been in development for a while where there's been a lot of work done under the hood. But in terms of the front end user experience, it wasn't quite there.

Now, we'll get to this when we talk about some of the things that we've launched. I've launched DitchTheDollar.com, which is one of the apps, as well as a newly designed FreedomForge. But the idea behind this is we've created tools to help onboard people to these wallets. And as I mentioned before, we've done these workshops that take four hours or whatever to go through. This phone actually shortcuts a big part of that right off the bat because it comes pre-installed with a couple of crypto wallets built in, including Bitcoin.com and the main Zeno wallet. And I will say this because I haven't talked about this yet.

on the air on my podcast. This is something that came about as I was putting together the materials, the tutorials, and working through what is now, as of today, the easiest way to onboard somebody to privacy coins. If you don't have crypto at all, How do you get somebody from zero to being able to buy their first crypto, convert it to a privacy coin or take a crypto like Bitcoin or Ethereum and make it private and to figure out how to start accepting cryptocurrencies as a payment option, so on and so forth. And I found that Bitcoin.com has really emerged as so far the easiest solution for this. And so this is a new development. And so we have the Bitcoin.com wallet

pre-installed on the phone. That's right. And so both the Bitcoin.com wallet and Zaino are on here. And what's really cool about it is that it's in something called a private space. So this is an area of your phone that is completely separate from your main phone. Why is that important? Why would you want that? Well, of course, you want to keep your crypto private, right? If someone snatched your phone out of your hands, this is what they would see. They wouldn't even see your apps. They wouldn't see your Bitcoin.com wallet. This could save you in circumstances where you need it. We know that Bitcoin crime is on the But as Aaron was saying, rise. that this is one of the easiest ways

to get started. Literally, the apps are already pre-installed. Aaron, you're going to have to cut that out. This is one of the easiest ways to get started. You can see the apps are already pre-installed. They've never been turned on before. So you can go in and you'll do your first time setup here. It'll go through and ask you to create a new wallet. See, So here we go. this is the first term of use for the Zeno wallet. That's great. We can also do the same for the bitcoin.com wallet. which i have not used myself here we go though we're on the main page obviously we don't want to sign in with google i'm pretty sure that wouldn't even work on

our phone anyways so you can put in your email here and you can just start using it right right off the bat so this phone will make it really easy and it's already set up to be as private and secure as possible hidden completely hidden off of your main phone um while still being accessible if you if you need to open it so yeah i'm with you there right like we talked about getting to know your neighbors in your community but um this is this is a really easy way to start and maybe aaron what you and i can do is we could do a short little webinar series that goes over all of the different apps on the phone I'd love to do that. And in fact, I mean, that's one thing.

I'm going to be changing the format of this podcast as well so that every week there's a new kind of action step or something that we're showing people that they can actually do. So I'd love to do that. But also, the... ditch the dollar app and the freedom forge app that are also pre-installed on this have the instructions so if you have the wallet already installed and then you have the uh freedom forge app which will actually show you to how to go through each of the steps uh in setting up your wallet and it shows each of the individual screenshots you'll see that there are a bunch of different rungs and tutorials on there that you can go through and see exactly

what's going to be on the screen as you're going through that setup process. Because I've found a couple of things. So, you know, in doing the workshops and everything there are a lot of video tutorials out else, there. But I've found that if... You're introducing new people to this. It's kind of difficult to watch a video when you're trying to go through the different steps in an app. And in fact, I'm going to even turn these into PDFs because a lot of people like to even print this stuff out when they're going through it on their phone. So the whole idea here has been to design... tutorials that are really easy to use step-by-step and don't require going back and forth with a video.

we should also do the webinar series as But yeah, well and get people's feedback because there's been a lot of interest in this phone over the months. A lot of people have been I've been waiting for it and are very excited about finally having the opportunity to, to get set up. And frankly, there are so many apps, you know, the series could go on and on and on. Like it's amazing how much stuff you can actually do on this phone. And just, you know, as an example, and I learned this a while ago, something like, but I mean, even in, when COVID hit, I actually, was I did a series of, uh, one of the first things that I did podcasts every night i was doing one

literally every night until i got shadow banned and that took about fourteen days i actually took less time than that took a week and then i kept going anyway but i was rate limited with like fifty people but the whole point of even at that time is this is before we even had the censorship industrial complex this was march of twenty twenty and i was telling people then you need to start finding alternative communication and i mean i was suggesting things like proton and you know signal at the time which is you know uh but i was also encouraging people to use cryptocurrency to use odyssey instead of uh facebook but then i think we have you have jitsi on uh the phone

which is a lot of people aren't familiar with but jitsi is an open source basically version of zoom And this was one of the tools that I started promoting in twenty twenty. And so I think it'd be very helpful to go through and do this because people people don't know that most of these apps exist. And I think they'll be blown away when they see how they work. Yeah, absolutely. Jitsi is absolutely a killer app that can replace Zoom. It could also replace phone calls entirely. Right. So here we go. I'm just setting up my permissions here. Here I am, Hakeem, and I can join in to a meeting. And then as soon as I'm into a meeting, then I get a link that I could start to share with other people.

So I can use that link and I can just text it to whoever I need to. So it could be by text message or by XMPP message or whatever you want. And then this person, your person, that you're talking to doesn't need an above phone. They don't need a daylight phone. They can use it on their iPhone. They can use it on their Mac computer. Anyone can join from anywhere, right? So that's the difference. Whereas big tech likes to get you on services like iMessage or Google Hangouts, and then you're locked into that platform. You have to be a part of it. services like jitsi and this ecosystem that we're creating are universal you can go in you can go outside the garden

and still still do things so yeah jitsi is absolutely great i also want to share our suite of privacy services that once you go to check out the phone you'll have an option to purchase them and you'll get access to a private video conferencing server this is above suite this is our suite of software services where we have the encrypted chat the internet phone number, the email and calendar, the file sharing and video conferencing, and a search engine, as well as knowledge and support on how to use all this stuff. So this is kind of like the final layers. There is also a VPN, so you'll have some options if you end up getting this, but I also encourage you to check out vp.net.

And frankly, most of the time, because this phone has features like having... the ability to create multiple profiles, like multiple users on the phone, it helps to have multiple VPN accounts. So the more the barrier, I really like what they're doing as well. So yeah, this is the final layer of your communications. It's not just enough. Yes, you've replaced your phone. Now you're off the grid when you travel around and when you browse the internet, but you also need to replace your communication and those for the people you love. And yeah, Aaron, you saw it popping off way early in COVID. They are trying to shut down our communication. So just wait in the future when we

have Project Bluebeam or the aliens come out. you're going to find that it's very hard Yeah, to communicate on big tech platforms. And unfortunately, Yeah. a lot of the things that they put in place that people don't talk about, like contact tracing, I mean, literally they're using yourself. During the middle of COVID, all of a sudden you would get this, here's an update to your terms of service and so on and so forth. And now all of a sudden they're tracking your location and they're using that to send out alerts and determine who may or may not need to be quarantined. Will you think they removed that? They did not. So whatever happens next, We have all of the surveillance that was

added during COVID, plus everything that they've been adding since. They haven't stopped at all. Even though there's no emergency, the surveillance state has absolutely grown. So that's very exciting. The next area is own my attention. the first time I saw Hakeem give a And actually, talk was at the People's Reset. which was a great event, Derek Brose's event in Mexico. And you gave a talk that was about kind of attention, which kind of does fit into owning your mind and owning your attention are somewhat related. But I was really impressed with what you laid out there. I don't want you to rehash the whole thing. Do you want to talk about maybe some of the concepts from that talk?

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Um, that was, that was a good time. That was, that was, yeah, that was a while ago, two years ago. And that talk was special because finally I had been talking about privacy for several years, but I became aware of the mental and spiritual aspects of this phone use where it is a portal. And unfortunately, big tech companies and social media companies have totally been finding ways to hack your brain. Yes, I'm not kidding around. They would literally like to hack your mind and hack your attention. as yuval noel harari says humans are hackable well this is what they mean and that's why nowadays you have uh tick tocks

and uh short form video content all those social media platforms are now doing shorts right ten seconds or less you know why it's ten seconds or less is because now you have a dopamine spike every ten seconds and You are literally gambling based on what you're going to see next on your feet. So it's a way to suck people in. And I argue that that's even more dangerous than simply knowing everything about anyone on the surveillance side. But when you can completely capture their attention and scramble their mind with the content you create that's that's the worst that's the worst possible outcome so this phone is does not have any algorithms built in

and although you could you could you get the social media apps to start doing that stuff this phone is muted for um it's muted against that type of activity so again there's no advertising uh there's no big tech messaging and they're all alternatives to social media which don't have which doesn't have those feeds. For instance, our player, give me a second here, it'll load back up. So when I start watching Aaron Day clips, it's not gonna immediately go from this video and start auto-playing the next one so you don't have any control, right? It's kind of bingeless. You can't really binge on this phone. It's a bit of an organic experience and that is better for your mind and your heart.

Well, well said. I mean, obviously, we determine what we allow to come into our consciousness. And I don't think we realize the degree to which this is happening through algorithms, whether it's not only the ads, but then even how they curate the playlist and what plays next. And so this is critical. Owning your attention is directly linked to owning your own mind. And the next pillar is ownership. own my body. speak to that. So I don't know if you want to I will speak to the fact that we have the OSR app on there, which the OSR is, it's going to be morphing, but at a very quick level, there are some things that you can do

to start taking back your health. Now, this addresses some of the surface areas, like for instance, in the United States, every minute someone files for medical bankruptcy. every single minute. And seventy five percent of those people have health insurance. So this isn't just a case of poor people that don't have insurance. It's mostly people that are insured that are losing their assets and they're losing their homes. And this is largely because of how just horrendously and fraudulently structured the health care system is. So in OSR, we're promoting the idea of first and foremost, forming a medical trust. So we have in there a whole kind of section on, well,

first signing kind of a pledge to do these things, because I think it's helpful for people to put their intent out there. But then we have a whole section that shows you maps and it gives you a comparison of different states and laws. Sorry, this is epic. This has come a really long way since I looked at it. Oh, yeah. And if you go to the medical trust so that's for the medical tourism tab, facilities. But at the top, I believe there's a... Let me see what it is. Protect assets or something. I can't even see it from the area. Here we go. So this is another map. Yeah. So it shows us you may live in a state. You may live in New Jersey or you may live in a state that has bad

laws in terms of your ability to protect your own assets. And a lot of people don't think about They think that, well, this. just because I live somewhere, that means I need to use the laws in my state. And you don't. You can form a medical trust in South Dakota or Alaska or some other state. You can actually form a legal document, legal entity to protect your assets. This is the number one thing people can do to safeguard themselves from basically getting looted by the healthcare system. Because when you have an emergency, when you go to the hospital, they won't even tell you the pricing in advance. stating that they're required to do so,

hospitals choose to pay the, I believe it's, three hundred dollar per day penalty and not disclose their pricing. And this is because people are getting gouged. I mean, people are getting charged like twenty dollars for an alcohol swab that costs two cents. And again, you're not able to know in advance. So you show up, you have an emergency, you go to the hospital, you didn't see the prices in advance, and then boom, you get hit with a fifty thousand dollars sixty thousand dollar hundred thousand dollar bill and then it's over right then you have to file for bankruptcy you're going to lose your house so the first thing is you form a medical trust the second cancel

your insurance because again insurance isn't providing you with catastrophic protection or we wouldn't have these uh this situation where we have all these bankruptcies and then the third is to seek alternatives and so what we've what we've built So far as a list of medical tourism facilities, over five hundred that are rated. And we have all kinds of information about the facilities and kind of a little AI chat bot where you can can look. But people are not familiar with most people are not familiar with medical tourism. And over the past, say, twenty years. It's gotten to the point now where the U.S. has degraded so much. We have the most expensive healthcare system by far in the world,

but we are ranked thirty eighth in healthcare outcomes. But other countries have stepped up. So there's been this propaganda where we've led to believe, well, it's expensive here because we invent all of the great devices and all the great medicine and everything else. And it turns out. That's actually a lie at this point. So you can get treatment for anything. And this isn't just cosmetic procedures anymore. This is complex bypass surgery. These are cancer treatments you can't get in the United States because it's blocked by the FDA. I mean, it's amazing what is possible. And in general, it's about a seventy to eighty percent less expensive. And by the way, that's including travel.

So we even have some information in here that compares procedures. It tells you which country is the best. I think Czechoslovakia is the best for IVF. If you want a heart surgery, there's a place. There's one specific facility in India that is better Bar none, it's better than the Mayo Clinic and it's better than the Cleveland Clinic here in the United States. It's like, seventy percent, eighty percent less expensive, better healthcare outcomes. So, all of that information is there. And that's only the beginning because obviously, you want to avoid all of this to begin with. And so, eating different food and actually taking more proactive measures, that's next to what we're going to add

into the site. That is an app that comes with the phone, and it's free. The apps are free. All of the apps that I've created are free. And that's the way it should be. This is just a service. Yeah, it is so cool to see this. Aaron, I just wanted to ask you, so is the concept of a medical trust and what you would normally pay to insurance, you just put it into the trust, so it just kind of becomes like a little health fund over time? Well, no, it's putting your assets into a legal structure where if something happens to you and you can't pay a bill, those assets are actually shielded from those kinds of proceedings.

and so it is a critical it's a critical step there are all kinds of other uh things that people can do and i'm and i'm trying to i don't want to get into all of the different um types of vehicles out there but but this is the big one they will come for your house they will come for and they do and we even have on the site um we've compiled a whole bunch of of actual stories of horror stories of what's happened to people where you can see what their bill was what the consequences were House foreclosed the whole nine yards. And so this is something that a lot of people think only the wealthy can do is create this kind of trust. And in reality, we also provide links to...

You can set this kind of stuff up on LegalZoom. We even give a half a dozen different places that you can go to to do this where it's anywhere from like, fifty to two hundred dollars. You don't have to hire an attorney. A lot of people are like, oh, I've got to hire a lawyer for five hundred dollars an hour. I can't afford to do this. No, if you have any assets at all, you can almost not afford to do this. It's that critical and people don't know. And there are different rules in different states and how long do you have to have the assets put in a trust before... California tries to claw back these assets. So if you form a trust in California, and I'm going to be wrong about the

specifics, but if it was only like... If it was even a year ago... They'll go after you. you fraudulently put your assets in this They're claiming, well, trust and then you knew you were sick. And so they'll try to steal your assets. Anyway, this is why you have to actually look at state law. So this is a big hack. This is a big opportunity. And the funny thing is this came up, and I know we'll talk about this, but I was doing my podcast and we had a bunch of people come on at the end for this live Q&A. And the guy's like, there was a guy in there who has, I think, four kids. And he had just joined the podcast. And he said he just came home from work. where he worked like a twelve hour shift

and he got this notice in the mail that his health insurance premiums were had increased six hundred dollars per month for his family. And this is a situation where the guy's like, I can't I can't afford this with the inflation and everything else. He's now having to decide whether to pay this insurance or So I brought up Mike Adams, Enoch AI, where to eat. and typed in there, well, what can you tell me? How can we protect assets or whatever? And it kicked back this answer about forming medical trust. And so that actually inspired me in part to put together this whole site because he hadn't heard of it and the other people on there hadn't heard of it. And I'm like, okay, guys, yeah, these are

tips and tricks that you can do and you don't have to be a millionaire and you don't have to spend tens of thousands of dollars of legal fees and so i don't want to get off on too much free it's key that's that's a perfect segue to i mean just being inspired by what mike is doing which we're really big fans we uh we have collaborated with mike to include his BrightLearn, now named BrightLearn AI on the phone. So the same questions that Aaron was asking is what you could ask. And if you are not planning to go to conventional medical treatments, This is a great way to get your then this is perfect. preventative medicine. So let me just see here. Let's see. So this,

basically this is a way to plug into Oh, there we go. Okay. So basically this is a way to plug into, oh, you can't see my screen here. Let me bring it up a screen. Here we go. So you can ask this AI on your phone. This is the Daylight Freedom phone that comes out of the box like this. You can launch one of these apps and you can start talking to Mike Adams BrightLearn AI right away. And you can start asking it questions about your health. So let's see what a good question he is. I'm having knee pain. Is there anything, any supplements I could take or any foods I can eat to help me with it? not only are using an offline voice

keyboard to ask the question so that no one's spying on you but you can then talk directly to this ai and the majority of the daylight freedom phones i think actually all of them can run this ai so in a few seconds here the ai is going to start responding to me and giving me answers right away so yeah this is another perfect way to own your body to truly own your body to not be dependent on medical infrastructure and aaron i love that you've built this for people giving them an alternative. Because yeah, I don't think most people realize you can, unless it's like an actual emergency, you don't really need to go to the doctor that often. I haven't been in years. Here we go. So yeah,

it's not as fast as the AIs you But hey, in a few minutes, use online. it'll be done here. And there we go. It's starting to tell us key supplements for knee health, which is great. Turmeric, a great antioxidant. Yeah, it's going to go on and on like this for a little bit. So now you have an alternative instead of having to go to your doctor and pay ridiculous rates for medical insurance. Wow, it's even telling you dosage and all that. and I've had Mike on my podcast several Yeah, times and Mike and I talk a couple times a week, trading back different advice on how to use AI. And so I'm a huge fan of this. And in fact, I think we had him on right when

he launched this downloadable version. In fact, I had him on when he launched the non downloadable version and then I think had him come back when he had the app. And this is key. This is critical because a lot of people don't know how to set up, even on their own computer, how to get this set up. And so this is pre-installed on the phone. It's there. Yeah, I want to say... Oh, sorry. I just want to say that I haven't I haven't done anything to this phone in set up... the background. I literally got it from my guys the other day. And they're just like, Here you go. And so this is exactly what you get out of the box. Look, it's telling us about collagen and glucosamine and, and yeah, I mean,

Mike is great. I mean, like you said, he's kind of released us for free. It's, it's a massive service to humanity. And I mean, we almost, we almost might be able to combine five and six. We not only, uh, we can ask questions about our food here too. I mean, it knows about, it knows so much. Yeah, I thought that was a good idea, actually. That's a good segue into this because Mike is the health ranger. And for a couple of decades, he's been compiling this information. He's been banned from almost everywhere. But he has pulled together data that he's accumulated himself over twenty years. And he actually has a lab that tests food quality. I mean, he is a smart guy that has plugged

into a whole bunch of different domains. And on top of that, he's invested, it's a lot more than that now, two million dollars going out and scouring the world for information. um about health nutrition alternative i would i don't want to call them alternative therapies i will call them you know he's been on a quest to find the the truth and things that actually work that's labeled alternative but in fact it's a little bit reversed But I know I was talking to him one time and he was just in the process of taking a bunch of ancient texts from China on natural medicine and actually translating them and putting that information into the AI and training the

AI on that. And so this is, it's a phenomenal model because this is absolutely information that, that you're not going to get from a big tech AI. One, they're not trained on the data. The data that they're trained on is largely junk and Reddit and a bunch of other things. But on top of that, not only are they not trained on that data, they put guardrails in that would prevent you from getting this information out in the event that it was inadvertently trained on this kind of data. So yeah, that does feed directly into the food component as well. Yeah, absolutely. Any solution that is alternative or food-based or doesn't enrich big pharma would not show up on your popular AI,

but it will on the daylight phone, which is running this AI out of the box. I just wanted to mention one other thing there. Yeah, on the food note, I think a lot of people don't realize how important it is to get connected with your local farmers. And this phone comes with a tool right out of the box you can start using to plug in. So this is a map of the United States, but you'll notice that Tennessee is in green. Why on earth is Tennessee is in green? It's because we've already downloaded the entire map of Tennessee to our phone. So we zoom in here. You can see I'm going to get all the details of here in Nashville and I

can start to search things in Nashville to farmers market. Market. Here we go. And we have all of these different farmers markets in Nashville. Now this one's a little bit out of Nashville, but this is using something called OpenStreetMaps, which is the only mapping alternative to Google Maps and Apple Maps. And there's a lot of data on this map already there have been people who have been contributing to it so this is a free accessible open for all type of mac mapping ecosystem and so that's the beautiful part is you can save let's say i found some places to forage mushrooms

over here there we go gonna add this point and i'm gonna say mushroom foraging just going to save that and now that's always going to be available for me on my map it doesn't matter if i don't have connection i can always navigate to this point on my map which is pretty crazy to think about same thing goes for the ais you don't need to be connected to the internet in order to be able to use this so if i showed you my personal phone and where i live you would find the locations of all my nearest farmers my tradesmen people in my community I have all their houses saved directly on my phone. I have all the maps saved locally. The grid could go down right now and I'd be like, eh,

it doesn't really matter too much because I know where to find my people. And of course I have solar panels. So this is a way for you to own your body and also your food by planning out your local community. I guess that fits in with the kid's future thing as well. Yeah, absolutely. That's the next one, owning your kid's future. You have anything to share on this? Yeah, I mean, I know you're doing, I mean, all of your, all of the apps on the phone would be a way to unschool your kids, wouldn't they? Yeah, it would be. And in this case, these are all things that are being built out. So the one thing that I want to say about these ten different dimensions of sovereignty, I mean, in some cases,

I've built some of the solutions, but that's not going to be the case the overwhelming majority of the time. So we're going to be plugging in other solutions here. And so the Oh Nothing tool kind of allows you to... do a diagnostic of... There are these interesting quizzes in each of these ten areas that give you kind of an assessment of where you are. And I know I did a podcast and we had a couple of guys on the Q&A and we were actually testing Mike Adams' book engine. And so somebody actually just brought up the topic. did you know how bad the surveillance is He's like, hey, man, in public schools? And I don't know. My kids aren't in public schools,

so I don't have the direct information. experience with what's going on. So we decided to create a book using the Bright U Books platform about it. And then what came back is they're absolutely monitoring everything about your kids. In terms of health records, they're actually tied in with Xbox. If you're using one of the camera things to try to measure the emotional state of the child, it's incredible. So we created a book in real time from the episode about this topic. And so this is one of the pillars. And so there's this diagnostic tool just to wake people up because people are... I mean, I wasn't aware. And I'm guessing Palantir is even involved in some of this now.

People have no idea the way in which... Our children, they're basically being harvested. The data harvesting is immense. And then there are all of these school counselors and there's a whole cottage industry of people around it. So if your kid gets flagged, they can actually detain your kid for a certain period of time. It's insane when you start going back. this rabbit hole. So that's... So with everything that I'm doing here, there's one part that's identification of the problem. And then, of course, what is the solution? And so this is where we're kind of just building out a database of whatever And that's going to grow... other people are doing. grow organically.

And again, part of the show, part of the podcast, part of the apps, part of everything else is to highlight these things. Because I mean, I don't know that much. I don't know what all the solutions are I mean, either. I know a small fraction of some of these areas. I think I know a lot. I know more than probably most on the currency front. But in these other areas, this is where we're going to be bringing in other resources and other people to share their knowledge and to help people level up in that area. Yeah, I mean, the school stuff is very, it's unbelievable. And I've done a lot of research on that front as well. And I think this is something that was also brought on by COVID when we had

ESSER distributions, which where we gave one hundred eighty billion dollars to schools in the United States and They had to spend it within five years. So think about that. One hundred and eighty billion dollars. They went from not being able to pay teachers to having money they needed to spend right away. Oh, well, looky here. An entire surveillance state got brought up because all of the kids were working overtime. remotely. And they were forced to work remotely. So absolutely, when a kid goes to school these days, they are monitored to high heaven. I've talked to kids who have, well, they're not kids anymore. They're in college now, but really smart, aware kids who

who were jailbreaking the Chromebooks at their schools to simply escape all of the surveillance, to get back control of their computers. And it's very scary because when kids go to school these days, they're actually being conditioned to live in a world, to live in a classroom where the teacher can see what you're doing at all times. It's very... I'm forgetting the name of this tower, but... Yeah, I mean, essentially, you don't know. Panopticon. Panopticon. Panopticon. Thank you. My wife said that word. Thank you. Is that because she's always watching you and you don't know? No, I put it in one of the early AI songs. And so now it's kind of like a

So now I've used the word all over running joke. the place. It's kind of a running joke. The Panopticon. Yeah. It's in a prison. It's in a school. It's in your phone. And so kids are graduating from schools, going into the workforce thinking, oh yeah, digital ID, that's another version of what I was taught in schools. Think about that and ask yourself if you want your kids to grow up like that. Absolutely crazy. And the next one, Yep. we've touched on a lot of these already, but own what I bought. And this phone is critical for this. So the own nothing site originally started out of an article that I wrote. And the article, it was about what was actually about

tokenization and the great taking in a variety of other concepts. But I was doing some research and I found that this research was old. This research was like two thousand and four. And even back then, it was something like the average American signs a hundred click wrap agreements every year. So this is like... I mean, if you're using your computer or if you're using your typical phone, every one of those apps that you download has its own terms of service. The most viral tweet that I've ever had, it got like five million views or whatever, which is kind of ironic on X. was where I did an analysis of what's in the terms and conditions of the X agreement. So when you're on X,

you don't own any of your content at all. They have the right to repurpose that They have the right to train their AI content. on that content. If you are found to be trying to reverse engineer and figure out what censorship they're using, that's a breach of the terms of service. If you have a contractual dispute with X, there is only one location in Texas, one particular court area where you can go and lodge your complaint. And the maximum damages that you can receive is is two hundred dollars. And so it's like on and on and on. Well, I listed this. the whole point of own nothing originally was this is actually and people were This is why it went viral. outraged. Like, well,

if these are the new terms of service in three weeks, I'm canceling my account. And then I had to say in the comments, I'm like, look, they actually only changed two terms. Everything that you're objecting to was in the previous terms of service. And people just had no idea. And so you go and you look at the Amazon terms of service. And these documents sometimes are fifty, a hundred, two hundred pages long. And you're giving up so much. You're giving up your privacy. You're giving up your right to have a dispute. In some cases, you're giving up your ownership interest in the thing that you think that you're buying. It's through these click wrap agreements.

This is how we already own nothing and yet people aren't aware of it. So this site originally started out as a place where you could go and put a link to a contract and then it would spit out a number. It would show you based on these five different points, this is how much you don't own basically. And then it morphed into this broader thing. But this is critical. You don't own the money in your bank account. If you start running through these things with your bank, your brokerage account, and everything else, people would be horrified. And by the way, if we could just get that message out, because knowing what happened with that X agreement, I'm like, look, try your rental car agreement.

Look at your mortgage. I mean, every single aspect of your life. And so it was a hundred click wrap agreements in two thousand and four. It's well over two hundred and fifty now because each one of these apps is itself a click wrap agreement. And the biggest offenders are big tech. The most obscene thing that I've ever seen And this is critical. is Disney. There was a doctor that died from food poisoning at a restaurant that was on a Disney property. And they actually tried to use in court his Disney Online Services Agreement to get out of the liabilities. So in other words, this doctor bought Mickey Mouse or whatever through the Disney Online Agreement. And the agreement was so overarching.

they weren't successful in this case Now, because it was... They tried. But they tried, and frankly, they win on some of this stuff, and it gets unreported. So in any event, this phone obviously addresses this in many ways. That's how little they think of us, right? It's like this case is especially, it's hurting my heart because this man, he probably had kids. They liked Disney. I mean, he was a lifelong fan so much that he went to go eat, you know, eat at the theme park. and he yeah i mean this is how they treat you when you're down this is how they treat you when you get hurt if you if you're put at risk if your data is in risk if it gets stolen by hackers and gets deleted off

your phone do you think you own it do you think they're going to help you get it back absolutely not they do not care one bit and this is why we have to take the sovereignty into our hands and that comes to our data so um with the above phone with the daylight freedom phone everything you do on your phone is actually staying on your phone it's it's completely local right this is there's no cloud service backing your photos up it's all on the phone now with great power comes great responsibility yes you do have to manage the storage on your phone but don't worry It's very easy. It's easy. We've taught thousands of people. Anyone from a homeschooler at fifteen

years old getting his first phone for the very first time to eighty year old grandmas using private cryptocurrency. We have taught them all. So it is easy. And plus, you can do things like this where you can go onto YouTube and you can actually just download a video right away. So I'll just pick a download folder here. Let me do this. There we go. Yes, there you go. And now I'm downloading a video directly from YouTube to my phone so it can't be deleted. I'll always be able to watch it. And I'll give you a hint. You can also do this with music online, right? So really exciting things where you own your data. You can have it all on your device and you'll always have it.

It can't be taken away from you. And you won't be wrapped up into these ridiculous evil service agreements which are just used against you. And then the last one is own your own word, which is, you know, it's actually directly tied into this. It's just basically you don't have to actually sign these contracts. This is probably the most powerful thing that in your toolkit in terms of improving your sovereignty is realizing you can actually say no. Most people don't even realize they can say no or that there are alternatives. We've really been conditioned to think that, well, the only choices we have are Apple or Google. Which one are you going to pick? Are you going to pick Coke or Pepsi?

Are you going to pick United Healthcare or Cigna? Well, guess what? The answer is I'm going to pick none of the above. And that's what you start to learn because of actually what's bundled into this phone is a whole new universe of open source free tools that you didn't even know existed that touch all of these different aspects of your life. and there's no terms of service at any point in time you don't have to sign any contracts at any point with the phone so um yes you can own you can own your word and with with all these things combined you know this is this is great because i mean we live in a digital age today there's you can ignore that if you want But I do think it's going to require

coordination. It's going to require mass recognition of what you're doing to raise the bar higher wherever you're at. The bar is super low, no matter which industry you look at. So we need people to stand up. We need you to stand up. And that is going to come from the work you do and the work you put So if you're using sovereign tech, out there. Like the Daylight Freedom phone, you stand strong. You stand in complete control of your It can't be taken away from you. data. And you're actually connected at a person-to-person level without any middlemen. So yeah, Aaron, thank you so much for having me on to share about this. So how can people get the phone today?

Well, do you want to point them to the page or do you want me to... There's two places right now. Yes. So I'm going to bring up Aaron's page first. So if you go to daylightfreedom.org slash phone. Here we go. Here it is. Daylightfreedom.org slash phone. Daylight Freedom Phone, a phone that does not spy on you. Click on the phones button and you'll see the different options here. You click on one of these, it'll take you to the abovephone.com site. Remember, you have a few options to pick here. So you can add the case and screen protector to the phone. You can see all of the specs here.

They're pretty great. You get updates for a very long time. uh you get a ton of ram so you can run any local ai models that you want waterproof all these things then you can also add these things we talked about owning your data so um you can actually have this storage drive where you can back up your files and you can put them on your computer really easily you can have a way to plug in headphones you can even have a way to plug in an ethernet cable and then you can use your phone without any wireless radiation so my house at home, I have it wired up and because I don't want to be fried by this wireless radiation. So you can do that, too. And don't forget to check out above suite,

which is the email calendar VPN search engine and many other services. And then you can check out using the Buy Now button. Currently, we are accepting credit card. But if you have any questions, you can always chat with us if you go to the main site. We accept credit card, crypto, and many other payment methods. So chat with us. There should be a button on the bottom right hand corner of the page that lets you say hi. We have humans that are ready to answer your questions every business day from nine a.m. to five p.m. And one last thing to mention is that if you're worried about this, if you're worried about switching over to a more private piece of technology,

don't worry, because we have the best support in the industry. We have people that will sit on you every sit with you on a call. you'll get a free forty five minute call along with any device. So you purchase it, then we'll hop on a video conference just like this will help you move over your old data from your old phone to the new phone and get you sorted. So cool. Yeah, that's everything I've got. Yeah, while I'm on here, I'm just going to say There is a few. Yeah, cool. So there's just a few models we have Yeah.

in stock here. And guys, we don't have a lot of these. So just want to make you aware here. Let me bring bring it back up on screen. The nine pro is our nicest phone. The nine is also a very nice next generation phone. It's just not as big as the XL. The camera is a little worse. Battery is a little smaller. And we've also got an eight pro as a as a discount model. Still a really excellent phone. And then our budget phone. So you can check out these at above phone dot com. You can also go to abovephone.com slash daylight and you can see the phones there as well. Oh, they're great. Here you go. The page is back now. So yeah, you'll see a few of the features in

here and then you'll see the most up-to-date prices down here as well. I mean, That's great. I have the Pixel Nine Pro XL with the case and all of the stuff. I absolutely love it. The camera is fantastic. Again, this is a top tier phone. Sometimes it might make sense here. I know we're running a little bit out of time here, but just to run through some of the I guess, common questions, because I get asked a lot of questions about this. I mean, some people, when I talk about the phone, they're like, well, is it a flip phone? Literally, this is a full smartphone, right? So just to get some of the basics down. But on top of that, what are some of the biggest questions

that you get asked so that maybe we can knock those out in advance in the likelihood that people are listening and have those questions? Yeah, so the first question we get is, can I still keep my number? And can I still use my same cell service? Or do I need to get a cell service? So the answer is, yes, you can keep your number. And if you want, you can keep your cell service. We can also encourage you to switch your cell service. Some people decide they want a completely different phone number and identity when they start using this phone. So the short answer is you have options. but if you wanna keep your same number and service, you can just bring that with the phone.

There's nothing extra that you have to pay us. You just pay once for the cost of the phone and you keep paying your provider that you already had. Other questions might be, hey, am I still gonna be able to use the apps I love? And the answer is, Quite likely. So we do have pretty much every app that you would be able to get on a normal phone, on our phone. You can see if you've got things like Spotify, although I don't recommend that, or Snapchat, although I also don't recommend that. But if you needed to use junk food apps like these, you can get them on our phone. And what's best is that you can actually put them in a separate isolated container to make it a little bit more private

to keep those apps from spying on the other apps on your phone. Another common question is, how does this phone actually protect me? Well, like I was saying earlier, is that there's layers of protection all the way from the hardware of the phone, advanced processor features, and things that protect you at the cellular level from cellular attacks, from hands-on attacks. This is literally one of the most secure phones you could buy on earth right now. Which is crazy that Google and Apple have dropped the ball like this, but hey, here you go. Here's an independent project making a better phone, a more secure and private phone. So we talked about the apps, we talked about cell service.

A lot of people ask, hey, well, what am I going to lose? This sounds too good to be true. There has to be something I will lose Well, yes, unfortunately, from using this phone. there is one thing you will lose, and that is the proprietary crap that Google and Apple try to stick on you. So for instance, if you use iMessage or FaceTime, those features on iPhones, those are Apple proprietary features. One, they're actually receiving your phone calls before you receive your phone calls. They're going through Apple servers. They will not work on above phone or any other phone. Apple likes to keep a closed down ecosystem. So you won't be able to use those on above phone.

another thing that people have hard times Also, with is playing three D games. if you take any of the principles on But hey, the own nothing site seriously, then you're probably not sitting around playing three D games, unless it makes you better at some skill. those are the things you might lose. So yeah, And those are some of the most common questions. Again, if you have more questions, go to above phone.com slash daylight and look for the purple chat with us button in the bottom right hand corner. And yeah, we have people on call during business hours who will sit there and answer your So yeah, questions. that's pretty much everything I got then. Aaron, do you have anything else?

No, I would just say, I mean, you know, all of the, I'm going to pop this on here real quick. All of the apps, all of the daylight, the whole daylight ecosystem is going to be on there. So the Aaron Day Show, the Technocracy Atlas with all of the maps of the U.S. and globally that show the growth of technocracy where you can, you know, get reports, Freedom Forge, OSARA, Oh Nothing, Ditch the Dollar, which is the latest edition of Which I will say briefly, Hakeem actually came out to the Libertarian National Convention where I had a bunch of talks and we had enemies of the state and everything else. And I gave a talk. It was my first talk about Ditch the Dollar. Because for a long time...

People in libertarian circles have been talking about end the Fed. They've been talking about it since, you know, when Ron Paul wrote the book and they chant it all the time, except the only problem is that in seventeen years, nothing has happened with respect to actually ending the Fed. No legislation has passed. There's actually no momentum. Two thirds of the dollar of all of the dollars that have ever been printed in the history of the country were printed post the publication of end the Fed. So I'm making a big push for people to ditch the dollar instead of end the And the difference is, Fed. rather than waiting for politicians to do something or the Federal Reserve to do

something, which they never will, you can just simply ditch the dollar. And you can do that with this phone. And there are step-by-step instructions. So I would just add that one thing to the end of this. But I'm excited about this. I truly think that Again, I think this phone is the biggest boost that I've seen to your personal sovereignty across these ten different So I'm grateful to Hakeem and AbovePhone dimensions. for partnering on this because I think this is going to help a lot of people really get ramped up. And it's important based on the rate at which technocracy is accelerating. Absolutely, brother. Well, we're grateful to you, too, and all the important work you do.

Honestly, going to enemies of the state, that event was life changing because you truly understand what's at stake. And the last thing I'll say is that this phone, this is just a baby step. This is the first step of many. in the future, as we see greater and greater swaths of society pulling away. So you will be a pioneer. You're one of the first people jumping And you know what happens to those who into this. go first? they're usually the most successful and Well, abundant, right? We have to pave the way for all the ones coming behind us who start to see the ridiculousness of the deal that they've been offered. So be the example in everything you do and Aaron,

thank you for all of these amazing resources you've created. And yeah, I hope this goes far and wide. Same. All right. Well, thank you for coming on. And yeah, let's definitely do this webinar series and continue to educate people. And again, I think this could be one of the biggest vectors out there for fighting technocracy. So thank you for coming on. Cheers, my friend. Thanks for having me. And thanks, everyone, for watching.

This transcript was generated from The Aaron Day Show episode "The Daylight Phone Is Here - De-Googled, Zano Built In, Zero Big Tech".