Enemies of the State Roman Storm & The Fight for Code Freedom

Oh. Oh. I woke up to silence, but the war had begun. They froze my account. said I'd done something wrong. Wasn't no crime, just living free.

Now the system got a chain on me. They took my savings, my future, my land WITH A SINGLE COLD LINE and a government hand. Said it was safety, said it was green, but all I see is tearing behind a screen. This ain't innovation. It's a trap in disguise. You alone nothing be watched all your life

ain't freedom ain't clear. It's a cage they build while we ch. I believed in the promise. The man with a plan. But the same old swamp just changed his bra. Keep in the front door. Open the back.

Sign the bills that launch the final attack. This ain't innovation. It's a trap in disguise. You know NOTHING watched all your life. Jesus ain't freedom. Calling me ain't clear. It's a case baby while we cheer.

Your gold, your guns, your voice, your name. They'll digitize it all and shift the blame. Palunteerizing AI chains. FREEDOM DYING SLOW IN PATRIOTIC FLAMES. THIS AIN'T ABOUT SAFETY. It's control in disguise with your ID, your face, your tears, your time. THEY WRAPPED IT IN STARS, sold it with pride.

with freedom bleeding out from the inside. Death con and they call IT PEACE. BUT I still got breath. I still believe we CAN BREAK THE CODE, ESCAPE THE SCHEME, turn this nightmare back into a dream.

The land don't breathe. like he used to breathe. My grandfather held the soil like scripture in his hands. But now the fields are wire tight. A fortune of nearly 500 billion running under satellite light. Just 2% decide the table for 330 million souls. While the hum of iron engines sends our birthight to the core. They're pulling 5 gab an hour

rising like a pray sent upward to a corporate sky. The farmers locked outside. And though nearly 20 million work the gear, only a tiny hand will touch the land. The machine grows tall, the people small, their stories slipping from their hands. Oh, the rule remembers freedom. Even buried in the dark. You can change the life with numbers, but you cannot change this bar.

This ain't far. It's a wheel of steel and coal. Your grandfather's farm's a check on a technocratic road. They take the seed, they take the soil, they take the hours from your spine, and the machine keeps pulling everything one acre at a time. A quarter of the world's seal locked behind the corporate gate. You can't save your own just by again.

Let algorithms choose your fate. And nearly 10 billion animals push through corridors of chrome where the land once sang. The servers drone. What he used to feed now grown. There's over three trillion in equipment. Farmers rent but never keep. And well over 300 billion in debt. Pulling families in need. Call it progress, call it glory. But I've read the hidden lines.

The machine is fed by labor and it starves the working mind. The land still knows your footsteps even under grids and wires. The machine can dim the daylight, but it cannot drown the fire. This ain't faring. It's a wheel of steel and coal, a tiny few of the carets. For the many down below, they count your days. They count your

years. They tell blood and time. And the machine keeps taking families down one story at a time. Your grandfather's lands been patterned. Your pasture quantified, but no algorithm knows the truth of what your hands decide. This ain't faring. It's a kingdom built on streams. They turn the soil to a number. Turn the farmers in a means,

but the land remembers kind and the people still alive. We outlive every empire one heartbeat at a time alone. Little longer road. My little mountain.

Woke up this morning. Phone already in my hand. Scrolling through the feed before my feet hit the land. Sign away my data. Never read a single word. Gave them all my every word. Something stir in the cities and the town. Sleepers are awakening. The programs breaking down. We're taking back our fun. We're taking back our mind.

This is the behind said we love cage. Money isn't money. It's a chain around our wrist. Programmable permission slips they give us to exist. But parallel economies

arising from the ground. When the old world starts to crumble, that's when we'll be founded. The architects are captured. Never saw us coming through. A million little exits. And we're building something new. WE'RE TAKING BACK OUR TIME. We're taking back our minds. We're building something new. behind said we love but we're riding in

on a sovereign page. They own the screens but not our eyes. They own the feed but not the skies. They build a world of ones and zeros. But we're flesh and blood and sovereign heroes. WE'RE TAKING BACK OUR TIME. WE'RE TAKING BACK OUR MINDS. WE'RE BUILDING SOMETHING NEW WHILE THEIR SYSTEM FALLS BEHIND. THEY said we DON'T NOTHING AND LEARN TO LOVE THE CAGE. BUT EVERY LINE they wrote, we're turning the P.

Heat. Heat. Heat. Hey, we don't we don't bow. WE don't break. We don't give what they can take.

We don't bow. We don't break. We don't give what they can take. Roger stood with fire in his hand. Wheel and built a haven on free land. Roman wrote the code they fear the most. Now they're ghost and the machine they dress it up as long but it chains across the border.

Can't hide the truth in paper lies. >> FREEDOM'S GOT A billion eyes. We don't bow. We don't break. We don't give what they can take. Write our names in fire and gold. We won't do what we are told. We don't bow. We don't break. Hey 014067. A law that kills the hope we're given.

But paper crowns will wash away when the people rise one day. Roger and Roman's name. We'll sing aloud. We'll light that flame. Every cage they try to build. Ooh, we'll break when voices won't be still. Roger. We >> will stand for you. >> We will fight it through. >> YOUR code will run. >> FREEDOM HAS JUST BEGUN.

>> WE DON'T BOW. >> WE DON'T BOW. WE don't pray. >> We don't break. We don't give what they can take. We don't bow. We don't break. We don't give what they can say. Write our name and go. We won't do what we are told. We don't bow. We don't break. We don't give what they can take.

>> All right, welcome back to the Aarend Day Show. This is season 3, episode 9. And uh this is, you know, I it's sad to me that we actually have to do this episode, that we have to continue to do these episodes. This one is uh Enemies of the State with a special emphasis and update on Roman storm. So the last song that we played is we won't bow. And that's a song that I created a long time ago. Um probably over a year ago at this point. And you know, unfortunately, we had this uh George Bush style mission accomplished situation where Trump said uh the war on

crypto is over months and months and months ago. And yet the number of crypto prisoners is growing uh at a really quick pace. Uh we're going to have Dan O'Neal on a little bit later. We're discuss the upcoming enemies of the state event, but we're going to have twice as many people that we're advocating for this time. So, the supposed war on crypto is anything but over. And some of the cases like Roman Storm where uh he thought his case was resolved to the extent that he knew what charges he was going to be sentenced. Governments decided they want to reopen uh the case and now he's looking at potentially 40 years in prison. So we're going to talk with Dan

about that event. Uh but before we do that, I'm going to do the normal overview. There's so much going on. And then I'm actually going to do a little presentation about Roman himself. I reached out to Roman and um you know I assumed it wouldn't make sense for him to necessarily come on right now. But you know the government wants to retry him on these two charges. Uh the judge hasn't ruled on that yet. So I think April 9th is an important date on that. And so you know if they rule against Roman then you know we may have Roman on on the show. But I I hope that's not the case. I hope we don't have Roman on the case until he is a free man and we're talking about the

ordeal he went through in the past. But nevertheless, this is what is ongoing today. Um so I want to re you know recap what happened last week. So last week I announced that I am running for US Senate and uh I'll talk about this a little bit. I had my first public event last Saturday at Liberty Forum here in New Hampshire. where I spoke and then Scott Brown who is a Republican candidate for US Senate spoke. That was fairly interesting. But um I'll get into what happened on that in a minute. But last week I I went into a pretty lengthy detail about what the campaign is all about. So it was about two and a half hours and actually had to

con condensed that two and a half hour talk into 30 minutes which I did. And I I'll show you some of the some of the uh visuals for that uh because there's some new material that I presented above and beyond what I talked about last week. The episode prior to that we had on another prisoner of war in the war on crypto, Ray Yousef. And we are going to continue to follow his case. He's facing similar charges uh that Ian faced and in fact common charges amongst a lot of these crypto prisoners of the war. They try to get you for moneyaundering and operating without a money transmitter license which is absurd how they do it and you know the uh extent of the

charges that they they try to rack up with with that. So this is an example. This was the program for uh last Saturday. It was a pretty big deal I think for the Free State Project because the fact that we had a you know Republican candidate coming to the event. I think the Free State Project now has quite a bit of uh leverage and is is seen as a political force in the state whether you know people aren't happy about it but I think it's inevitable at this point. And you know, even Scott Brown said, you know, he can't win without the support of the Free State Project. Um, you know, I previously opposed Scott Brown. I had a super PAC and we raised like a quarter

of a million dollars to oppose Scott Brown in 2014, but this was not contentious between Scott and I. I don't agree with Scott on many positions. But but what we do agree with agree on is the fact that uh we're both running to stop his opponent in the Republican primary, a guy named John A or John E. Cenounu. And I think probably all states have this situation where you have these family dynasties, political dynasties that end up emerging where you have multiple family members, multiple generations, and they end up, you know, in the governor's office, they end up as mayor, they end up in Washington DC, and they have their fingers in absolutely everything. And then they position

themselves, you know, no one wants to go against them after a certain amount of time because of all of the power that they amass both within the state but then with their ties for Washington DC. But these are truly uh the people that everybody in all states should be trying to extricate because you will find it's the deals that they cut with Washington DC. the deals that they cut to enrich their own families and to enrich their own personal trajectory that erodess your state's sovereignty. And this is definitely the case with the CNU family. So, as an example of how bad this is, Scott Brown was a Trump supporter from the very beginning actually became Trump's uh ambassador to New Zealand and

Trump ended up endorsing John Eenu, who is a never Trumper. So, that goes to show you the amount of clout. We don't I don't know exactly what the quid proquo was for that endorsement, but at the end of the day, these are the kinds of of things where um you just need to cut those things out. So, we So, we had an interesting conversation back and forth. And actually, Scott said he would probably vote for me if if Cenounu was the Republican uh nominee, so in the general election, which is kind of a big deal. And I actually told people if you're going to vote in the Republican primary and you believe in that, you should probably vote for him. So, it was a very

interesting interesting conversation and uh you know, he's now aware of uh you know, usually when you do these political things, it's just you go up and talk or you're trying to ask for people's, you know, feedback or whatever. And that was not my that's not what my campaign is about. My campaign is about educating people about the threat that they're unaware of as opposed to asking, you know, trying to pander to what it is that they think that they want because people don't realize that the actual threat they have in front of them is technocracy. So, I actually, you know, compacted quite a bit of information into this talk and uh I think it was a lot of new information for some of the free

stator as well as as for Scott Brown. These were some of the points that I made and I'll tell you I've been been kind of racking my brain about this uh all week which is you know I'm a little concerned even here at New Hampshire that that technocracy may be you know planting hold at the state level and it it's caused me to want to start to research you know we know for instance that Peter Teal has heavily influenced has been playing strategically at the federal level uh with people like JD Vance and other US Senate candidates and congressional candidates around the country. And I've talked about several times, you know, what the endgame is with that with respect to technocracy. But now I'm

beginning to question whether he's been doing this as well at the state level. And so, you know, I've been predominantly trying to educate people all around the world about technocracy, not just locally. In fact, I've spent more of my time outside of New Hampshire than in New Hampshire. But I I realized this weekend that I think a lot of people in New Hampshire, in fact, even some people within the Free State Project might not be aware of what's going on. And some of this hinges on this what I have on the slide here, Curtis Yarvin and you've all Noah Harrari. Um, so, uh, Curtis Yarvin has become very popular within libertarian circles and Yarvin is the guy that influenced Peter

Teal and he's put forward a pretty controversial philosophy that sounds like it's about limited government with, you know, things like Rage, retire all government employees being one of his programs and attacks on, you know, uh, not only bureaucracy but the mainstream media and academia. and so on and so forth. It's not until you dig in and realize that he's actually a technocrat. And so, you know, yeah, you may replace government employees, but if you replace them with AI, uh, you don't get more freedom. And so, there's this this whole narrative being built up around mecracy, which is a backlash to all of the woke policies. It's a backlash to affirmative action and and certainly those things

are are uh disastrous. The problem is when you get into the mode of saying well well if these are the you know kind of the philosopher king types then they should be make they're better at making decisions than people are making for themselves and therefore they should be put in that position and that is actually not a freedomoriented position. This is where technocracy ends up leading which is that well okay scientists and engineers or AI is making better decisions for you and then you are essentially then become an NPC not exercising your own free will where all of your decisions are being made externally that is not libertarian that is not pro liberty in any way shape or

form nor is that pro- free will and I think this is has been lost and I think it's been lost just primarily as a backlash to all of the the woke stuff. So, there's a lot more work to be done, I think, within the libertarian community on communicating this. And one of the big points that I made is that, you know, I I I love New Hampshire and I came here 17 years ago as part of the Free State Project, but in the end, you know, we're the freest plantation in the slave colony. So, the fact that we're the freest isn't useful or meaningful if we are tethered to the federal government and the federal government is moving warp speed towards technocracy. And I have been making this point since

2012, since I got involved in politics in New Hampshire, which is that, you know, you can win all of these small things, like, you know, we don't have to have inspection stickers here in New Hampshire and you don't have to get a license to get to do hair braiding and so on and so forth, but um that's not all that meaningful if, for instance, you've caved on real ID, you've given up control of health care to the federal government through things like Obamacare, Medicaid expansion, destroyed free markets in health care and now 33% of your budget comes from the federal government. So you can't ignore the federal government. You you can't just say, well, you know,

screw DC, we're going to focus on New Hampshire, but then ignore all of the the ties that are associated with that. And so, and then I kind of outlined what those are in terms of what happened with CO tyranny and everything else. People don't like it when I talk about this, but I don't care. I I came to New Hampshire. I signed this pledge. It says, you know, the the point to come to the Free State Project is the maximum role of government being the protection of life, liberty, and property. And so, you know, I take that seriously and that's not possible if we continue to give up to the surveillance state. I presented this slide as well, which uh Dan will come on board and we'll talk

about the event coming on, but the war on cryptos expanded. We only had five total people at the event last year and they weren't all crypto people. We had Ross Olrich, Ian Freeman, and Roger Ver as the crypto people and then Edward Snowden and Julian Assange and now we have all these crypto prisoners and we still have Assange and we still have Snowden and then we have more people in different categories and so uh it's it's pretty pretty sad to to look at. So, um, I'm not going to go through the rest of of those slides, but I I will say that, you know, my punchline on all of this as I do the campaign, the whole point of the campaign is not vote for me, I'm going

to solve your problems in Washington DC. The point of the campaign is going to be to go across the state doing workshops, educating people about technocracy, but showing them how to exit the system. So, as we sit here today and we look at, you know, are we in World War II? you know, what do we think about bombing 170 school girls in Iran, so on and so forth. The answer to that isn't to, you know, chant audit the Fed or chant and the Fed. The answer to that, you don't have to vote for it. You just have to ditch the dollar. And that has remained the solution since it was my presidential theme uh in 2024. You don't have to vote for it at the ballot box. You have vote for it by taking your

money out of the banks. By the way, if you haven't noticed, there's all kinds of warnings all over the place. They're black rock. Other people are having issues with where they're halting withdrawals for from certain investment funds. There are all kinds of alerts around and you know, some of them may be fake or not, but about potential cyber attacks on banks. There's all kinds of there are all kinds of issues with the banking system itself and defaults, credit defaults all over the place. I mean, we're we're kind of in the same situation we were in 2008 before the collapse. Plus, we have World War II on top of it. So, um this isn't a drill. It's not a bumper sticker that

you're not supposed to pay attention to. The money in the bank doesn't belong to you, but by participating in the system. And by using the money, you enable the government to commit atrocities all over the world. And there's no voting that's going to fix that. But people don't understand this. And so I'm going to go show them and I'll show them how to use privacy coins, how to use gold backs, how to use physical silver to get out of the system. And I think a lot of this is people just don't think that they have a choice. The same with healthcare. You're not going to fix the healthcare. No politician is even offering a solution. We don't have any markets in healthcare

at all. The whole thing is is fraud. And now the government controls 50% of health care spending. So, the way out of that isn't to have some gimmick or some other new trade association lobby a political party. It's to cancel your insurance, form a medical trust to protect your assets, and engage in medical tourism uh in a free market. So, uh coming up next in terms of events, by the way, I'm going to be gone um next week, but I am going to do the podcast. I'm going to do the podcast on Monday instead of the normal Thursday. So, I'll do Monday at six o'clock and the topic next Monday is going to be on the board of peace. And so, um, you know, I

encourage you to research that ahead of time, but what I'm finding here is incredibly bad news. If you thought that we defeated the globalists or defeated the WEF, so on and so forth, Trump has put together this organization that he's the chair of for life that governments put money towards, including the US government, which has invested 10 billion dollars, and they're going around and doing reconstruction projects, building technocracy in other countries where the people on the board are personally profiting from it. Uh it's it's and but they're actually promoting technocracy. For instance, right now they have a plan, $12 billion plan to rebuild Gaza, and they're

calling it a technocratic state. It's going to have six to eight smart cities based on AI. It's going to use a digital currency, possibly even the Trump stable coin, which is a backdoor CBDC. This is uh this should be front page news and probably otherwise would be. in the fact that the first thing that the board of peace did was start World War III is, you know, I guess part for the course for these types of organizations. But I'm gonna have Craig Wkelitz on and we're going to go dig through all the people on the board. We're going to show where the money comes from, what the structure of the or situation is, and how all of this fits into um the technocratic agenda.

So, I'm going to go through before I bring Dan on, and I'm gonna I'll probably uh go through these slides somewhat quickly, but I wanted to give everybody a a sense of of what's going on with Roman Storm. um because I don't know if I've done a full thing on him or not, but you know on August the 23rd of 2023 at 6 o'clock in the morning uh in his home uh in Suni, Georgia, you know, his daughter was already awake because there were armed federal agents surrounding his home. She's awake because a SWAT team was pointing weapons at her father's head. So, think about that for a moment. quiet suburban neighborhood with manicured lawns and so forth, kids bicycles in the driveway. You know, the

most exciting thing in in a town like this is where the sprinklers go off at the wrong time and then all of a sudden without warning, black tactical vehicles with body armor, assault rifles, a full machinery of federal law enforcement descends on one family's home like they're allow about to take down a a drug kingpin. That's how this story uh started. And his alleged crime is writing computer code. So think about that for a second. In the United States, a man was treated like a violent criminal. His family was traumatized because he wrote software because he built something with his keyboard and his mind. And so, you know,

you might be thinking if you're new here, that there must be more to the story that the government doesn't send SWAT teams after programmers. There there must be something else at play here. But, um, the story gets worse the more you dig into it. Uh, Roman Storm came to America from Russia with $500 in his pocket. That's it. $500. And he was chasing the American dream. uh and the idea that if you work hard enough, if you're smart enough, if you build something valuable, America will reward you. And so he did just that. He learned, he worked, he built, became a software developer, contributing to the technological infrastructure that powers our modern world. He lived an immigrant

success story that we've been told represents everything great about this nation. And then one morning, federal agents surrounded his home and pointed guns at him in front of his daughter. So you need to understand something critical here. This isn't just about Roman storm or about one raid on one house in one Georgia suburb. What happened that August morning represents something much bigger and more dangerous and more relevant to your life than you might realize. Because if the government can send armed tactical teams after a software developer for writing code, what does it mean for innovation in America? What does it mean for the next generation of builders and creators?

What does it mean for the fundamental promise that you can come to this country, work hard, and build a better life? And you know, there's actually a video that uh was played at in Aarapoco, the video that I hadn't seen before with footage about the way that the feds raided Ian's house. And I may get a try to get a copy of that and and play that so that you can actually see how uh scary, but also over-the-top absurd these SWAT teams are for these cases. You know, again, Ian's case, selling selling Bitcoin without a license and then, you know, you've got to have five different federal departments coming in and a Bearcat breaking your windows and all this other stuff.

So, so to understand why armed federal agents arrest software developer at gunpoint and treat him like public enemy number one, you need to know his full story, what he built, why the government claims it's criminal. Because his case isn't hap hanging in a vacuum. It's part of a larger pattern, a pattern of the government using its most aggressive tools against people who build things they don't understand or can't control. A pattern that should terrify anyone who believes in innovation in privacy or the basic right to write software without the fear of a pre-dawn rate. So, so tonight we're going to go through his story. Again, it's becoming a common story. There's a lot of overlap. This is

why I did the song We Don't Bow and it's got it has um Ian, Roger, and Roman in it. I'm going to create more songs. Um frankly, I've got a queue of songs to make. I'm thinking about doing one for each of the prisoners, you know, and now I don't even know if I could do a song. There are so many of them. I don't even know if we could have an effective song without it being 10 minutes long that includes all of the crypto prisoners, let alone uh every everyone else. So, this is where this starts at this 6 a.m. raid. Um, you know, as I said, Roman came here to Russia with nothing but $500. And he actually started working as a bus boy while he learned to code. And

so, he's a self-educated developer, no CS degree or anything like that. He rose through the ranks to uh work at Amazon. I mean, he's literally the embodiment of the American dream. And if you're not familiar with what he built, he built something called Tornado Cash, which uh it's not a company, it's not a business, it's a ma mathematical equation that essentially runs on the blockchain. It's a privacy protocol built for Ethereum. So, you know, the idea behind this, you know, there are no employees, no bank accounts, no headquarters. And you know, Roman met Vitalik from Ethereum in 2019. And the way that I heard him describe it is, you know, you look at, if you want

to look at Ethereum as kind of an app store, um, you know, it's pretty pretty it would be pretty dangerous or, you know, who would want to have all of the apps that you download known publicly on a blockchain. So his idea was to uh create a kind of a privacy solution for managing you know Ethereum for managing things built uh on top of Ethereum. So pretty straightforward uh situation and you know there's something that is similar in in in a lot of these cases which is before he went and built it he he actually sought out advice from a lawyer about whether or not you know he needed to get for instance a money transmitter license

or something like this and and one of his investors he ended up having a a venture capital firm invest and the and the venture capital firm had their lawyer look at it and and came back with, "No, you don't need a uh you don't need to have a money transmitter license to do this." Well, um and in fact, in 2019, Fininset explicitly said, "Privacy prefering preserving protocols are legal." So, Roman had this in writing. This was um 2019 guidance. Anonymizing software providers are not money transmitters. So he hired VC lawyers to verify compliance. Again, legal counsel confirmed this and he built it in good faith based on official government guidance and based on getting legal

advice. So he did everything right and still got raided. So what changed? Well, as I've talked about on this show many times, we have Executive Order 14067 under Biden, which authorizes CBDC and authorized a complete crackdown on everything else. And again, why would you crack down on crypto or you you would need to crack down on crypto because no one's going to want a CBDC. So I think that um many of these cases although not all of them some of them now Rey and others actually were originated under Trump but most of the crypto prisoners awards that we're dealing with their situations started under Biden. So uh in August of 2023 the

DOJ brings charges against Roman. They allege a billion dollars laundered by third parties using the protocol. This is kind of similar to Ian's thing, right? You're going to say, "Oh, you don't have a money transmitter license, and now we're going to hold you responsible for people that you basically sold, you know, crypto to, which none of this ever happens with banks. Again, banks can can launder h literally hundreds of billions of dollars for cartels, get caught, and no one goes to prison." There was zero evidence that Roman knew any criminals. He had zero contact with any moneyaunderers. uh this would be like prosecuting somebody uh for building a highway uh

for drunk drivers. Uh so that's essentially what happened. And so they the the case went to the Southern District of New York, which as you probably know at this point, this is where they went after Trump. This is where they go after everybody. even though Roman wasn't based in New York, he ended up getting the worst possible uh court for his case. And so they had a uh kind of a drawn out trial and I know there was some back and forth. I think one of the jurors had a nail appointment or something and there was some deadline. I mean, it's it's one of those things when you read the details on this, it's ridiculous. But long story short, in August of 2025, he was found guilty on one count,

maximum uh jail sentence of 5 years, but the jury deadlocked on the two most important charges, the most serious charges. So, he was convicted on one count of money transmission, so without a license, and that's that's potential maximum five years. But the jury could not reach consensus on conspiracy charges. uh they couldn't reach uh you know there all all these allegations about things involving um working like with North Korea and terrorism and moneyaundering and all this other stuff but they deadlocked on uh on these other uh more important pieces elements of the case. So, so the government said tornado cash is so dangerous that they arrested Roman

and then they lifted the sanctions on tornado cash itself. So in March of 2025, Treasury lifts sanctions on tornado cash, the thing that Roman created. And then Trump signs an executive order, stop signing targeting crypto developers. And then there's a DOJ memo that says, we're not a regulator, stop overreach. Then there's uh something called the Galott opinion. Code is not a crime. So with all of this, so this is so it's looking pretty good, right? The software you created isn't illegal. The president has said, "We're not going to go after anybody anymore." You've got the DOJ saying, "Hey, we're going to stop overreach." And yet the DOJ has just requested a retrial on

these other two more serious charges. So now I believe he is potentially facing again back up now from five years to 40 years. So there are huge implications for this. If Roman loses the case then decentralized finance dies not in theory but in practice. First amendment protects written expression. Bernstein versus the DOJ in 1996 found that code is protected speech. Publishing encryption algorithms is protected activity. So if writing code is a crime then then no developer is safe. The entire opensource movement

is at stake. You know other crypto figures have received justice. Why not Roman? Although as we talk about Samurai wallet and then in a few weeks I'm going to talk to the lawyers uh for another Roman Roman Sterlingoff. We're going to find that uh this seems to be a target. It does seem as though the government is very much still interested in shutting down privacy and maybe even shutting down open-source development itself. And as I've discussed, Genius Act is a backdoor CBDC, clarity, and everything else. Everything that they're saying about America being the crypto capital world is more America becoming the surveillance crypto capital of the

world. And even then, with a specific caveat where if you are a family member related to Trump or you're part of the Trump administration, you can be one of the ones issuing surveillance cryptocurrencies around the world and profiting off of it. there doesn't seem to be any actual interest in protecting our privacy or Fourth Amendment rights at all. So, you know, there have been pardons. Um, you know, Ross Olrich was pardoned, CZ was pardoned. Now, you know, Ross was pardoned as a deal with the Libertarian Party that was secured for votes. CZ uh was pardoned uh and then went on to and raised $2 billion for Trump's World

Liberty Financial and also he actually created USD1 which is Trump's stable coin. So that's looking a little bit like a pay-forplay deal. But then you have Roman Storm and all of our other crypto prisoners that that don't have a deal with Trump still facing prosecution or still sitting in a cage. So the global picture here, this uh isn't just America. Governments around the world are criminalizing privacy as well. You have Alexi Perzf who has been sentenced to 64 months in prison in the Netherlands. Co-founder uh convicted for the same code in in Europe. So um you know this is tornado

cash. You have Roman Seoff third co-founder. He's currently at large. So there's a coordinated international assault on privacy tools. So if they can do this on code, then really nothing is safe. So there's a movement to bring this back. Um, you know, I guess let me actually look through the rest of of what I have to say here. I think let me bring on Dan Dan O'Neal to go talk about the next part of this. Um, Dan, are you there? Anyway, we'll wait for uh for Dan Dan to hop on here, but you know, this is why we're doing the enemies of the state

yet again. Um, >> hey Erin, how you doing tonight? >> I'm doing well. How are you? >> Good, good. Um, there seems to be a little back feed all of a sudden in your um am I the only one that hears that? I have no idea because you're the only one who hears it and no one else has uh has said anything. Um >> Okay. >> Has it been like this the whole time? >> No, it just started about a minute and a half ago. >> Interesting. >> So, it might be that the heater turned on here. I I don't know if you recall. I've got this like ridiculous aircraft carrier sound when the heater kicks on. Uh, it's a long story, so it might be

might be that. So, I'll put myself on mute when you're talking. We'll see how that fixes things. >> Well, the one thing I'm thinking of with the Roman Storm case is if uh if a banker gives out cash to anybody and they go and buy an ax and kill a whole bunch of people, you know, under the terms of how they're going after Roman Storm, they should be going after the banker. But they don't um the constitution which is still the law of the land that the uh politicians swear an oath to um the fifth amendment says everything should be clear. It it shouldn't be vague. Um and the fact that um he's facing almost 40 years for um

you know creating a code that he had nothing to do with. He didn't even hold the funds is um is just a form of lawfare and um where they're just trying to punish people um that you know don't want to do you know uh what they want. So, um, it's it's very, uh, tyrannical and and it's against the Bill of Rights, too. >> It is. I mean, you know, again, I've I've said many times, I think that Constitution's been dead for a long time. There's there's none of nothing about the financial surveillance laws that we have in this country that that is in any way constitutional

or that makes any sense at all. And none of it was necessary before 1970. And none of it and it hasn't worked. The the bank secrecy laws and anti-moneyaundering know your customer stuff catches less than 3% of the illicit activity yet it costs 61 billion dollars per year. And so rather than revisit the fact that we have too much financial surveillance and regulation today, we're adding more on top of it as we have this new technology, which makes absolutely no sense. But of course, this benefits the government and it benefits incumbent players and frankly it benefits people directly tied to the administration

unfortunately. >> Yeah, totally. Um and uh as far as the other crypto prisoners, there's one on operating an onlicensed um what is the term that they use? An on uh licensed financial business is that or conspiracy to do that. >> Unregistered, you know, money transmitter, >> an unlicensed money transmitter business. Now Ian Freeman, for example, um was charged with that, but there actually was nowhere you can actually get a license. Um so he got, you know, charged with conspiracy to do something where you can't even get a license to do

it in the first place. And um so he would be the most um you know, obvious case of uh lawfare that I can think of. Uh Roman Storm, same deal. uh William Hill, from what I understand, same thing. Um and uh this is supposed to be the most crypto friendly administration. Um and how come all these guys are being um charged, put behind bars, and um it's pretty uh it's pretty bad what's going on right now. >> It's bad. And I don't I don't know. I I I guess I'd be curious to see what the m I think the mood is changing. I I think uh I mean having attended Liberty Forum

this weekend and I will say my um my own feed uh has has been posted I I've been saying the same stuff for years and now it's getting you know a thousand times more traffic. And so I don't know whether that's the algorithm or or the fact that maybe maybe people are catching on to this. Some of the stuff that I was saying seemed extreme before but doesn't seem extreme now. And you know, one thing I didn't mention at the beginning, I was um I was recently on the Darkhorse podcast with Brett Weinstein uh and Steve Patterson. And um you know, and Brett Brett was one of the people that was you know, pushing this Trump strategy. He's he comes from the left. He's a Democrat. He's I guess I'

call him a liberal, but maybe in a liberal in the philosophical tradition, not necessarily what liberal has become known to mean. And so he ended up heavily supporting Trump. And then he came out, he was just on Tucker Carlson yesterday saying, you know, he's obviously profoundly uh disappointed in what Trump is doing. and and he's come out and he's getting a lot of flack for it too to the point where I think he's a little bit afraid for, you know, his physical well-being. He's come out against this war in Iran. And so people are starting to I and I I'm not going to mention some of the other names, but there's some people here in New Hampshire that were some of the main

activists on the ground supporting Trump and they have reached out to me and they've said, "Wow, I mean, I can't do it anymore because there's only you can only do trust the plan. Trust the plan doesn't fit the evidence, right? I mean, one of the things Trump ran on was no wars in the Middle East." I mean, he was explicit about it. I mean, you can find these tweets going back to 2012 or whatever, making fun of Obama, making fun of everybody else and trillions of dollars lost in the Middle East, and it's a waste of money and everything else. And he even said this in 2024. And then he does this thing with Iran. And it turns out the thing with Iran, this isn't even like a situation where, you

know, we had Coen Powell lying to the UN about Iraq and having yellow cake or whatever it happened to be. We didn't even have any evidence that they were close to nukes. Trump made his decision based on what his son-in-law Jared Kushner had to say. I'm bringing all this up in this context because uh Trump has been 180 degrees wrong on the war on crypto and on actual war. And at some point, you know, we have the midterms coming up here. It looks like he's already lost the house and the prediction markets have now the Democrats at 47% chance of winning the US Senate. Part, this is part of why I'm running. Part of why I'm running is that

um the seat in New Hampshire could determine which party has control of the US Senate. And you know, if if Trump is willing to do what he said he was going to do, which is end the war on crypto and free these crypto prisoners and and then not pass the Clarity Act, which by the way is the largest surveillance legislation in the history of this country. And you're not hearing that from anyone else. And then I'd throw on there a third point, which is fires Howard Luke. If he does those three things, maybe I won't run. But as it stands right now, he's going to get wiped out and they're going to lose Congress. Which by the way at this point as it stands wouldn't be a

bad thing because right now we have technocracy running without any obstacles. We've got real ID back door CBDC's. We've got war. We have crypto prisoners. All of it. Like what's the point in having complete Republican party rule? What are the big wins? What are the benefits of this? And I I I think people are looking at the price of gas. They're looking at the job numbers. They're looking at actual inflation, not not what is, you know, reported when the government is actually capable of reporting on such things. People know how much food actually costs. And they're saying, "What what is this all about? He hasn't made America great again." Remember, his whole thing was

make America great again, make America safe again, all this other stuff. None of that's happened. And he doesn't even have an excuse like co uh because he brought on the Iran thing himself. It was completely and totally unprovoked. And so now we have all these prisoners. And you know, we still have prisoners. And this is a good way to introduce the uh enemies of the state event. But as I said in the introduction, I mean, Dan is a a great friend of mine, and he's the brainchild behind this enemies of the state thing. And I remember when he came to me in 2024, he's like, "Hey, I've got this idea. Uh what do you think about, you know, doing this enemies of the

state thing?" And this was, you know, right shortly after Roger Ver had been uh arrested in Spain and everything else. And so like, yeah, this sounds like a pretty good idea. So he put this whole thing together in Washington DC, huge party at the Libertarian National Convention. And it just so happens the next day Ross, you know, Trump comes out and says he's going to commute Ross Olrich's sentence. Um, and then, you know, eventually Roger's situation gets, you know, partially resolved. I I still think Roger should get a pardon. Uh but I I think that this event did a hell of a lot to raise awareness uh for these prisoners and now um now he's at it again and and I you know I'm fully fully

behind this event as well. And so you know I thought I'd bring in Dan to talk about this event. Uh but maybe not only talk about this event, but also from the standpoint of, you know, sadly because we talk about this all the time, how much bigger this event is, how many more enemies of the state there are from last time. >> Yeah. Um well, last time we just had Julian Assange as a whip whistleblower, Edward Snowden. Um, and speaking of Julian Assange, he was a news reporter that um, he was the one that released the Wikileaks. Um, and the news reporter is getting charged with the Espionage Act. He pleaded guilty to it just to get out of prison. That's actually a direct

violation of the First Amendment. We can probably go down the line with every single one of our prisoners and how all their sentences are a direct violation of the the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, which just goes to show everyone how our government is actually um an occupying force. They're not they don't represent anybody or the people. But um we can go to Edward Snowden. He released a lot of things from the NSA um explaining to the American people that they're being spied on, they're being tracked, they're um you know, a lot of bad things are going on and nothing in this has anything to do with national security. Um Jonathan Salter,

Joshua Schultter, he's doing 40 years in a max prison in Colorado. He's the one who released Vault 7 in the Wikileaks. Um, we're hoping to have Gabriel Shipton come and he can talk about that and possibly even get an appearance from Julian. That would be nice. We're working on um Snowden, you know, being at this event and uh on a video of some sort. And we have another big names that we can't announce um that have confirmed, but uh it's going to be really interesting. um some of the some of the uh people that have stood up against the uh the state in in a massive way. And um it's going to be uh it's going to be an opportunity for people to

come there, meet everybody, network, find out how to get involved from all 50 states. Um you can also meet Lyn Albbrick. We're going to show we're going to showcase her organization, MACS, Mothers Against Cruel Sentencing. ask her, you know, how did she do it for the for all those years? Um, you know, going around and with a hand a paper petition for a while there and just herself and going everywhere to help her son. Um, and uh there's going to be um a lot of opportunities for people to come to this event, talk to everyone. You want to meet Aaron Day, you want to meet Bonnie Freeman, Mark Edge is going to be the MC. there's an outside chance

that some of the prisoners might actually be there, but I can't talk about it. Um, and um, so we have a lot of things in the works right now. the designing of the event. Um what's going to happen? Uh we can't announce a bunch of things quite yet, but uh it's going to be an event that we hope is going to get a lot of attention to a lot of these guys, get the activists going and let's get them out of prison and let's end this thing all, you know, once and for all. Um, yeah. I mean, it's it's going to be a great event and I've seen some of the concept ideas for, you know, just kind of the look and

feel. There's going to be a really uh interactive environment so people can actually chat and share information and get to know one another. You know, I think, you know, from my perspective, I I started talking about Roger right around this time. This was this this first event was was right after Roger was was arrested in Spain and people were not talking about his his case. I think a lot of people were like, "Oh, well, this is, you know, some guy that's outside of the country and it's some tax thing or whatever. He'll just resolve it." And, you know, I wrote my book I wrote this book, Final Countdown, in 2020 23. Part of it was to educate people about CBDC's, but also to warn

people about Biden's executive order and the at the time coming crackdown on on crypto. And um I mean we Ian hadn't yet been sentenced. Um there were certainly some others who had been targeted and then you know Roger was arrested just three weeks after his book hijacking Bitcoin was released and I'm like they're not targeting him for taxes. They're targeting him to silence him and they're target targeting him to have a chilling effect on people who are effective at promoting freedom tools and freedom technology. And that's why Ian was arrested in my opinion. It's very

very clear. It's obvious. Uh and and the other crypto prisoners that we have on this list, they're all either p open source privacy developers. These are people that write code to protect our Fourth Amendment rights or they or they promote the use of cryptocurrency as a way to stop central bank tyranny. I mean, these are these are people that um are heroic, you know? I mean, I look at Roman Storm and his background. I mean, coming here with $500 in his pocket and, you know, teaching himself how to code and and do the whole nine yards. Why would we be punishing somebody like this? It's it's just backwards. Now, I understood why Biden was doing it

because Biden wanted a CBDC and Biden didn't want these things. But Trump claims to want these things. And this this is part of the thing. We say the war on crypto is over. You have to what does crypto mean? Right? Because I would argue stable coins are not crypto. A digital token that can be programmed, tracked, and censored that's backed by fiat, that's not cryptocurrency. The whole point of Bitcoin was to separate money and state. When Ian was promoting these things, he was promoting things like Bitcoins, Bitcoin not bombs, was promoting the idea that if you could use these things, not only would it make it easier, faster, and cheaper for people to be able to just engage in

commerce, but you wouldn't be funding all all of these wars. Those are all of the people that were targeted. And the thing is, they're still being targeted. So when I see Trump launch a memecoin, excuse me, well, he also launched a meme coin, but a stable coin that's going to be used in the technocratic construction reconstruction of Gaza after they displaced 2.3 million Palestinians. When I see that Howard Lutnik is going to make money because he manages all of the treasuries backing Tether. So every time you use Tether, you're funding war, funding government debt, and Howard Lutnik gets a cut. Um, I'm I'm beginning to think that maybe we need to have a

definition and a discussion and a debate about what crypto is because we're not getting any crypto. We're getting surveillance. People in the administration are getting rich. We're losing our privacy. We're losing our freedom, our economic freedom, and then these prisoners are losing their actual freedom and being thrown in cages. And you know, I frankly, it's probably going to be somewhat difficult for us to amplify this. I hope if you're listening to this, you share share this. I'm going to be talking about this event and these prisoners every episode between now and the event. We should probably tell people a little bit about the logistics. I've got the website up here uh on the

screen, but you want to talk about kind of where it is, when it is, that kind of thing. So, it's going to be uh Saturday, May 23rd, Grand Rapids, Michigan at the Libertarian National Convention in Grand Rapids. Um it is um I guess the uh logistics of it, that's pretty much where that is. It's going to be um you could probably go to lnc.com, find uh more information on uh hotels or uh travel or whatever else. Um uh the website is um going to be expanding. We're going to be adding uh sections on the uh prisoners uh what they're accused of and um more information on how to get involved.

Um and um as far as Roger Ver, I want to go back to that for one second. What do you think the coincidence is that he comes out with a book called Hijacking Bitcoin and then gets arrested and charged with 109 years in jail? Um, >> well, I've I've always thought that there are two two elements to why he was arrested. One is the timing of the book, but the timing of the book is interesting because actually I think he got uh shafted twice by two administrations for different reasons. I think that he was arrested under Biden because, okay, hey, this

this is Bitcoin Jesus. We're trying to launch a CBDC. Uh, we don't want this guy out there talking about how to use Bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies like Zeno or privacy coins or whatever as a way to defeat the CBDC that we're trying to push through. So, I think there's an argument to be made that you would want to silence Roger even outside of the the scope of hijacking Bitcoin. But then but then I I think that there are some Bitcoin maxis that took advantage of the situation because I've thought about this a lot. I spent a lot of time trying to educate people about the hijacking of Bitcoin and it occurred to me that it's unlikely that the Trump administration knows

about the hijacking of Bitcoin because all of the people that donated money to Trump and that surrounded him and that advised him are people that were promoting the uh the Bitcoin maxi position. I I don't know how he would have heard of this other information. So, interestingly, once he was arrested, uh, you had a different group of people coming in saying, "Well, you know, and it was disgusting watching Maxis, watching people like Max Kaiser. I'm going to get pissed off if I have to start talking about this, but people that were saying, "Oh, yeah, he should rot in jail." Well, we were watching these people that were actively wanting Roger to be suppressed, which is part of

the reason that I continued to talk about it. I mean, the fact that it's the truth and it needs to get out was that it was also a major reason. But but man, the fact that, you know, I remember when they had that Bitcoin convention in 2024 and Trump was there and Cynthia Lumis is talking about a Bitcoin strategic reserve and RFK is there and I spent the whole event putting out threads based on the book Hijacking Bitcoin because I I know from traveling around the country that people have never heard about the stuff in hijacking Bitcoin. Now, here's the the irony of this. I got blocked by people just for writing a short little review about the book that Roger had

retweeted before he went to prison. And I got blocked by Bitcoin Core developers, people like Adam Back, a whole long long list. But then I actually started talking about Epstein's involvement three years ago with CBDC's and an overlap with the funding of the Bitcoin developers. and I wrote an article about it and then the Epstein files came out and now it turns out that it completely vindicates Roger and it's even worse than that. And so in a really interesting way these Epstein files have broken this open. I wrote an article that is called hijacking Bitcoin. Um, and it's funny to watch how people have responded to it because people they immediately say try to say that I'm

paring Roger's position from 10 years ago, which they misrepresent having not read the book, but it's not my my whole uh article on this and my whole position. I came at it from a completely different angle, but it turns out the two stories fit together. So, this is why I've been doing interviews with Steve Patterson, the co-author of Hijacking Bitcoin. We've done numerous interviews together. We've we've been on the Shannon Joy Show. We were just on with Brett Weinstein. Uh, and uh we're doing an interview with Katherine Austin Fitz on Friday. And there are some other things that we may be doing in in the future on this because now the genie is out of the bottle. So, there are a lot

of people that like to say, "Oh, well, the block size wars in the past." Well, you know, for 99.99% of the people on this planet, they've never heard of the block size war. So, it's not in the past. It's information that's completely unknown to most people on this earth. But, I will tell you, a hell of a lot of people that aren't involved in crypto are very interested in understanding what Jeffrey Epstein's involvement is. So, I think this is going to break the whole thing open. But to answer your original question, yeah, I I think that the timing of the book, um, and when you look at everything else and the charges and the fact that it's been 10 years and everything else, and

look, in a way, Roger still isn't talking because they they gave him this I read the agreement that they had that's online. I mean, he really can't say anything. He has, you know, kind of like effectively a gag order for three years. That's what they wanted. They wanted the silent. They didn't want the money. I mean, look, the government has spent what, $13 billion dollars already in this war in Iran that was supposed to last two days. >> Do you think that they needed his $50 million? >> They didn't need money. They don't need anybody's money. They can just print more money. Um, they wanted his silence and they got his silence at this critical period of time. And so now

there are a whole bunch of people, and I don't blame the people for this. I mean, again, I've talked to people like, I feel bad for somebody that didn't hear about Bitcoin until after 2017, and all you've heard is the Bitcoin standard. All you've heard, you can listen to 20 different podcasts of people saying the exact same thing, but then these people have said, "Well, you haven't studied Bitcoin unless you've invested 2,000 hours watching podcasts. It's the same people shilling their same thing." There's no information in it. There's no learning in it. It's just become kind of like this this cult, but it's very effective. And I'm I I'm actually pretty excited about the fact that for the

first time I have people now that want to debate me. They're like, "Why don't you debate these Bitcoin maxes?" I don't owe anybody a debate. These people have blocked me for years. They have blocked and silenced Roger for years and then they cheer on the state in silencing him some more. I'm not here to like I'm not rehashing the block size wars. My position is it when Bitcoin was released, it was after the financial collapse. Everybody agreed after the financial collapse, right and left, that the banks suck. Bitcoin was a way for people to transact without using banks. And now, how are we doing? um you know 16 years later uh we're in a situation where we don't have a solution to to the

2008 problem and now because of the hijacking of Bitcoin we have a worse problem which is that governments are adopting CBDC's or backdoor CBDC's you know tokenized fiat that they can control and now we have nothing because of the way that Bitcoin was hijacked. So, I take it from from that angle, but but um I you know, I'm grateful for the Epstein files, but I have no doubt as to why why Roger was was targeted. >> Yeah. And if you look at Ross Brig, for example, um he got a uh two life sentences plus 40 years for creating a website. So, um that's extreme in every which way. Um, and uh, thank God he's out, but um, he's the only one that's

out from what I understand. Um, and uh, you you look at um, well, as far as Ross goes, I mean, that was um, 2013. So, um, did he do almost a decade in jail? He lost 10 years of his life for creating a website. And um it's uh cruel and unusual punishment. You know, if you look at a lot of the um the prisoners in Gitmo, apparently they have no um there's no trial, there's no due process, no nothing. You just get put into solitary confinement and tortured. And so, uh the government is out of control with a lot of this stuff.

Um there's a new enemy that we're going to add to our um roster. That's Ray Yousef from Paxel. Apparently uh he got arrested right after he got off the stage of a Narutopia. Um and as much as I try to research what exactly he did wrong, it doesn't make any sense in any which way. Um is there any way you can elaborate on it to me anymore? Uh yeah, I mean he ran an exchange essentially uh in the US called Paxful and he had a dispute with his uh business partner and he left uh a while ago, few years ago and there

are all kinds of accusations back back and forth and then he went to go start something called no one's but in a classic scenario you know what they're charging him with is the same thing operating without a money transmitter license and because of that with now once you're in this category of when you're operating without a money transmitter license then you become legally and criminally liable for the actions of anybody that engaged in your illegal money transmitting service without a license. So one of the things that I saw in his filing was there were people that were using his crypto exchange on back page and so now they're trying to claim that he was some

you know facilitating uh prostitution or whatever it happens to be. I mean, this is just this is absolutely absurd. Again, it's like going after Ian for romance scams. He never interacted with these people. He didn't even know the person that committed the romance scam. Um, and but the way that the government drafts these complaints is that makes it look like that, you know, Ian or Ray was directly engaging in the activities, which is not true. They were simply providing an exchange and a way for people to obtain cryptocurrency. And this is this is the most common theme of all of this. And I, you know, I want to remind people if you're new to this that we have a government that uh is missing

$21 trillion. We have a Pentagon that can't successfully complete an audit. We don't know how much money is in Fort Knox. The Federal Reserve hasn't completed uh completed an audit. Like there's a there's a an irony here which um you know, again, we're supposed to have rights. The Constitution is supposed to limit the federal government. And yet, they have no transparency. They can't complete any audits. They're funding wars around the world. They are engaging in drug trafficking and everything else. And yet, they want to throw a guy like Gray in prison because he operated an exchange that somebody used that may have been involved in something that may or may not have been illegal. Um, and

that's the way this whole process works. Rumble says, "Sorry, I got somebody in the chat here." You know, we are live. Um, I got to figure out a better way to get comments. We should have a lot more comments here and we have 1500 people. We're still live now. Um, the commenting thing needs to be ramped up a bit. But uh but yeah know Ray's case and the thing about Ry is um is good. The thing about Ry that you have to also know is so now he he is living in the UAE but no one's is a crypto exchange targeting the global south targeting

Africa. And Rey is is Muslim and he's been very open about this. He's been very outspoken against US foreign policy. He's also been very outspoken against CZ and Binance and he has a lot to say from direct personal experience with his company and other interactions with Binance. And it just occurred to me that, you know, we have a situation here where Trump pardons CZ, went into business with CZ, and then launches a war against Iran. Um, seems to me like maybe Ray's a bit of a political target. So, um, I, you know, I, so I encourage everybody to, I I had Rey, he was like the sixth

episode ever on this podcast going back a few years ago. I was at Manaropia with him uh, two Monitopopias ago and actually he was supposed to speak right before me uh, this last time. He ended up switching his thing around and going first in the morning and then he got arrested and deported from Mexico first thing in >> you know what I want to talk about Ian Freeman again if you look at this guy I um he's a peaceful guy it's all if you listen to his podcast um you know he's been podcasting since the early 2000s with Mark Edge um nothing but peace he doesn't he he actually is um um goes out of his way to talk about

nonviolence and everything else. Uh he he had his house raided in the middle of the night with bearcats um you know, breaking his windows down. Um you know, machine guns in in their faces, you know, his wife Bonnie was scared to death. Um and this is the kind of stuff that they did to Roger Stone, too, I believe. And Roger Stone's wife. Um, so, uh, it's, uh, it's amazing, you know, what the FBI, the lengths that they'll go to to, um, scare, intimidate people that are not doing anything wrong to anybody. In fact, they probably wanted to take Ian out of the picture because he had a radio station that had

over 200 radio stations, three satellites going across a couple continents where he promote Bitcoin, peace, and liberty to a lot of people. And I guess they just couldn't have that. So, um, you know, Ian made a lot of people rich and he also made a lot of people, um, you know, he explained liberty to a lot of people. Um and um you know this this is a guy that has no victims in in any which way. In fact, I think a lot of the love scam people that they were claiming um they they they weren't even um part of his case um in in any which way. No, but the way that the government I I

like I I have I you know, as I've said this many times, I've been radicalized three times and the third time I was radicalized was at Ian's sensing hearing because part of what they did was they would have these romance scam victims come in on Zoom and tell their story, but it's almost as if the romance scam victims didn't even understand what was going on and that they were directed by the DOJ day to take out all their eyeire at Ian even though Ian wasn't involved in this. Ian wasn't the guy committing the romance scam. So the and I'm we're going to talk about this in in other episodes as we showcase other cases when I have Roman Sterling's lawyers come on which I think

is going to be April the 14th. It was supposed to be next Monday but we have to switch it around due to things involving Sterling's case. Um what you find is that the DOJ uh will omit information. They'll be very selective with information. They will take information like chain analysis, which is how you track crypto transactions. They'll take information where it's like A plus B doesn't equal C. They'll take things that um that don't make sense, that are that are wrong, but because it's confusing and they know the jury doesn't understand it. If you bury people with a bunch of uh diagrams and charts, they'll literally pull something up that's wrong. But if you're the jury and you don't

know anything about this technology and you see five suits from the DOJ with a bunch of complex diagrams, they've literally baffled these people with bullshit. And I mean, I'm not even kidding. This guy Roman Sterlingoff is accused of running a Bitcoin mixing service called Bitcoin Fog. It's literally a case of mistaken identity. He actually didn't run the service. Uh and yet he was still convicted and was sentenced to 12 and a half years in prison. I at some point as we go through and do this, I'm doing a lot of research on the DOJ, the history of the DOJ, their practices, and everything else. And I will do a full podcast to try to lay out for everyone how the DOJ operates. Now,

at this point, you know, people are looking at Pam Bondi now and looking at the way I mean, think about this thing with the Epstein files. They're now saying that the FBI was hacked and they lost 500 terabytes of information in 2023, but they never told anybody about it. the DOJ Pam Bondi went up and said that they've got like a, you know, tractor full of, you know, videos and everything to go through and then came out a month later and said there's no evidence uh of wrongdoing with the like this. It's kind of like when you learn you read the book The Devil's Chessboard about the CIA, you realize that, you know, if you're sitting here saying, "Oh, we've got the Constitution and the

DOJ plays by the rules to try to, you know, to make sure that if they're prosecuting us, it's according to the Constitution." That's never been how it works >> in this organization. And I what I'm going to I want to do some seminars and bring some of these lawyers on >> to explain to people how this how this process works. As an example, I was, you know, sitting at one of the other Monotopia talks and it's like delete all your information. Don't save any of your information. Don't save any Gmails or anything else. Whatever it is you think you might want to search for in the future, it won't benefit you. Because the way they do discovery in these processes is they'll take selective bits

of your information and they'll tell a story. They I I I'm not even kidding on this and I don't want to spoil all of it with this Sterlingoff thing, but they basically took all of his data as part of the discovery process and tried to search for moneyaundering and they found like uh they found something from an in-game chat from a non-player character and tried to submit that as evidence of Roman storm of Roman Sterling talking about moneyaundering. It was literally an NPC character from within a video game. that they'll present it that way anyway. And look, you know, there's a real question about jury of your peers. Who is a jury of your peers? If you're an open source developer and you're

dealing with cryptography and you're dealing with privacy software, like there there really is an element to this where I mean, you can almost see it where the, you know, the jury falls asleep, right? It's it's it's complicated. And then the government comes in and it's always like well you know was Roman Storm's stuff was he you know conspiring with North Korea or whatever. It's like that's not even how the software works. Roman Storm had no idea who any of these people were. As I said at the at the outset he wasn't dealing with any of these people. He wasn't doing anything knowingly wrong. It's it's code. the way the state uh uh fashions a narrative and cherrypicks

data and is willing to knowingly knowingly misrepresent information. And then what they do, you know, the other part of this is in Roman's case, Roman isn't like a a billionaire from crypto. He he's not been able to fund his own legal fees. He's already spent more than $5 million in legal fees. And now I know, you know, I guess maybe I I didn't realize that they could just go ahead and try him again because it was a deadlock jury. So now he's got to defend this all over again. I mean, who could afford you? You obviously can't if your legal defense is millions of dollars, you can't even afford to defend

yourself. And when they bungle the process, they'll do other things. We had uh uh Joe Roaches on from Dragon Chain and he was talking about how they would do situations, you know, as part of the discovery process where I think he said something like they lost some of the discovery. So you go through all this process of finding in, you know, information about giving them information that they can use to incriminate you and you spend tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of dollars compiling evidence against yourself and then they say they lose it to cause you to have to incur that expense again. The whole thing needs to be um exposed and and because it's not a oneoff, it's systemic.

>> Yeah. You look at Mike Pompeo, he had a um he put a kill out for Julian Assange. He wanted him assassinated. Julian Assange is just a news reporter. You look at the Epstein list. Not one person is in jail for that or or any which way. Um but you look at all these guys that are uh preaching freedom. Um you know, especially Roger and um you know, all of our guys, you know, they're all being persecuted. they're all in prison or they're going to be in prison uh based on trumped up charges that it's uh it's a reach according to the fifth amendment and due process for any of these uh guys to be in prison. Um the laws are supposed to be clear enough that the

average ordinary guy can understand it. Um but meanwhile we have like Pete Hexth bombing um a girl's high school. 170 people, 170 girls incinerated to the point where you they couldn't even recognize their bodies anymore. And in fact, the first missile hit, only a couple children died, and then they went on to the prayer hall. And then a second missile came in and incinerated the rest of them. And um he just said, "Well, that's that's the that's the casualties of war." So our government just has a whole new set of rules for what they can do. And uh the constitution was meant to restrain the government, not the people. Somehow everything is opposite at this

point. Uh they're using the constitution against the people. Meanwhile, the government is just, you know, running around imprisoning people. I think we imprison we. I don't want to use the word we. The United States imprisons more people per capita than the next 10 countries combined. None of these people are politicians though. >> No, they aren't. I, you know, I talked about this last week and again, this is part of my campaign. People get upset about this. Uh, America is not the freest country in the world. We're not The only areas that we rank number one on are defense spending and incarceration rate. We're not great. We're horrible in healthcare. We're 57th

in free speech. We're losing to China in 57 out of 64 technology categories. Incarceration rate is where it's at. And you know, when you really map this out, you end up finding out things like that judges own interests in private prisons. This is this is another thing that came up in the Roman Sterlingoff case. I I look forward to having these guys on. This guy Mike and Tor. This is Mike's first case as a lawyer, and it just it shattered his entire perspective of what the law was about. And you know, man, just listening to him uh describe this situation, I can't wait to have him on. And I I hope we I I hope

Roman Sterling off wins his appeal. I hope he wins his appeal. 12 and a half years for mistaken identity. But even if it wasn't mistaken identity, it's stupid. It's a It's another one of these mixing services. So So he's getting 12 and a half years for the same kind of crap that that Roman and the Samurai Wallet guys are charged with. And he didn't even actually do it. And none of these people should be in prison and none of them have actually done anything wrong. And the government's even come out and said, well, you know, now a couple days ago, well, it's, you know, there's a real use case here for these privacy mixing services. All right. So, the services are now legal, but you're

still going to throw the people that created them in prison. None of it makes sense. And and Trump knows about it. I think Trump had talked about made a statement about the the uh samurai Kony Rodriguez before his sentencing and people were kind of excited and enthusiastic and and were optimistic that his case would be uh dismissed based on the war on crypto being over and everything like none of this should be going on. And it's a it isn't a headscratcher frankly for me as to why this is going on but because you know because we're pushing back door CBDC's and we're pushing technocracy and because people are personally benefiting from it. There still is a war on privacy. This

administration does not actually have a strategic interest in privacy. They want to continue to control the currency and they want to actually use I mean it's interesting to even say leverage given the amount of debt we have but we're at kind of a late stage of the empire and they're trying to figure out a way to use hype and pressure to keep the dollar dominant in surveillable digital form. >> Yeah. Uh the I think the average person has started to at least realize that uh things are getting very expensive. Um the price of goods and services uh the cost of living everything is going up in

uh price. I don't think anyone realizes really why unless they maybe start reading the creature from Jackal Island uh start to learn about uh you know what inflation is and but um you know yes you're right that they are collapsing the dollar and uh you know I think Bitcoin was created in 2008 correct me if I'm wrong Aaron because of the banking collapse so the white papers were um a response to with Satoshi Nakamoto to um the tarp bailout of the uh United States government and all the banks and Bitcoin was supposed to be freedom money. It was supposed to be peer-to-peer cash and it turned into a get-rich scheme where freedom is not

even on the menu anymore. >> Yeah. I mean, that's what we think. I mean, we don't even know. I at some point I, you know, I've had to come to the conclusion of, you know, maybe the thing was always intended to just prime people for CBDC's. I I I don't know anymore. I keep my you know, you have to have enough humility after being involved in having enough things get hijacked and kind of ripped apart that, you know, maybe the whole thing was was a scam to begin with. But that's what we thought it was. Um, so I hold on a sec. I've got a guy Yes, we can see. I've got a guy that sorry, that's typing in comments here and uh doesn't realize that that that they're

live. We have a commenting thing here. I think he's on Rumble. We can see all of the or I can see all of the comments. I guess I don't know what uh other people can see, but I guess if he's on Rumble, my guess is people can see uh that uh on Rumble. So, um anyway, so yeah. No, we have any I don't know where we were, but this is a Yeah. Okay. We're have a very um we have a very inverted system and and we need to call it out and we need to use the leverage of this election. Again, Ross is free because he because Trump wanted votes. Obviously, Trump doesn't care about

the principle of releasing people or he would have released everybody that had a similar set of circumstances as Ross. He did not. He He did a oneoff negotiation for one guy in exchange for votes so he could win the election. We just have to understand and realize that this is how this guy works. So, this is why I'm like, "Okay, well, I'll run for US Senate." You know, the only way to get me out of the race is to, you know, do what you said you were going to do. Um, it's kind of the same thing again. Everything has to everything is a deal. Every I don't think things should be deals like this. I, you know, uh, we should have a constitution. We should have, you know,

a bill of rights. And, you know, I think politicians should be running to protect our rights, not to get their snout in the trough for their constituents or not so that they can benefit their own family and their own businesses or not because they're blackmailed by a foreign country. To me, somebody running for office should be running to protect those rights. But I I honestly don't think anybody anybody actually does that. So there's what's the point? By the way, just just to veer off on this, you know, I don't know if if um I don't know if we've talked about this or not. Maybe we should reach out to Thomas Massie to see if Thomas Massie might be willing to uh to say a few

words uh at our event. um you know simply because this is a guy who I in my opinion I haven't I I gave him I contributed $500 to Massiey's campaign. I haven't given any money to any politician in in over a decade and the um and and the reason is because of the Epstein file. The Epstein files is the most important thing that's happened politically in my lifetime because not necessarily because people are even being thrown in prison, but because that information is now available and people are crowdsourcing research and people are able to learn the truth. They're able to learn the truth about how the world works. You're able to follow the money, follow the actual money, the kind

of money you can't normally follow because it's an offshore trust, because you don't know the source of the money. We're able to learn about the history of crypto and the funding of CBDC's, genetics, AI, all of the different things that uh he had his fingers in and all the different relationships. Like this is a mind-blowing situation. This guy says, "I have a solution to voting that will make you a winner in November and president by 2028." I don't know if I want that. I I mean I but uh I I I'll bring you on at some point. I I will bring you on. Switch it on. But uh um just so that you know, my goal is is not any of that. My my goal is to use politics to make

people aware of the fact that they don't need to depend on politicians. They can actually exit the system and take control of their own lives. So I'm not uh I'm not eager for that solution, but I will bring you on anyway just to because I'd like to hear what what it is that you uh what you have to say. Um, so what do what do you So yeah, >> it's funny that you take um a guy like Ammon Bundy who's a you know guy from the West, wears a cowboy hat, talks about the Constitution, talks about God, he's like basically uh you know, apple pie and uh and uh America and uh this guy has um basically um being used lawfare against him right now. He owes $60 million on a

civil lawsuit because um his Liberty Network was protesting a hospital for kidnapping a child. Now, $60 million, that's not excessive. I mean, that's like uh he's not behind bars, but boy, um the uh it seems like the um they won't let him discharge this in bankruptcy either. So, it seems like the government likes to use these courts as weapons against our freedom leaders. Now what else did Ammon do during COVID? He stood up against it. He opened up all the churches over there in the Midwest in Idaho. Um they said nobody has to wear a mask. Nobody's taking vaccines out here. Um he was very outspoken against the whole thing. And uh then before that, 10 years ago, the whole BML

BLM incident with the Burrow of Land Management. But um so he's a hero out there and now he's being persecuted too. So um you know he's not a crypto guy. He's not a whistleblower. That's just a regular American hero that is um you know so our current DOJ is completely out of control. Um and our government is in every which way. and uh you know the only what Thomas Massiey's doing exposing this exposing the EP Epstein files being the only voice out there he's like the next Ron Paul um I think it'd be great if we get him to come to this event speak for a few minutes hopefully people can uh meet him and that would be terrific

>> yeah you know he and he certainly is an enemy of the state right I mean he's an enemy of Trump Trump's flying out to you know his district to campaign against Israel is spending millions of dollars uh against him. I mean, in my opinion, he's the only liberty guy we have in the entire House of Representatives and um and and he's done this at great risk to uh to himself. So, it'd be great uh great to get him great to get him there as well. And um it's just I I don't know. To me, it it is it is kind of I'm not going to say demoralizing, but it's just kind of like we don't know how many people we're going to be advocating for at this event, but it's going to be at

least twice as many as we had in 2024. And that that kind of that pisses me off that I'm grateful for Ross, but I mean, you know, one guy like people are like he likes to pardon people. Like, well, what what are the what are the criteria here? I mean, this is this is ridiculous. You know, you're not going to make America great again by, you know, retaining first in the world in incarceration rate. Like, why how are we why are we doing this? Um, and you know, look, you know, he's not up for election again, right? This the midterms are are it and chances are he's going to have a lame duck situation for a couple years.

And uh which frankly would be good at this point. I think we need grit lock. I mean he he still has an opportunity to do the right thing. I guess I would say and if he does the right thing then I guess he should be supported. I don't know why he hasn't done the right thing so far. But he could still do the right thing. And the right thing would be to free all to free these people to free all of these uh prisoners of war. not just crypto prisoners of war but but again Assange and uh and Snowden and all of these others um you know somebody like Ammon Bundy uh and and on and on and on long long list like you know what does it really cost is there really even any political

capital why wouldn't you do this I mean it's not like Trump is going to lose a seat in Congress by pardoning Ian Freeman right there There are no there's no vote loss in pardoning these people. It's the right thing to do. He said he was going to do and he's not going to lose any votes. So why not just do it for all of these crypto prisoners of war? And at this point I don't even understand the arguments of why you wouldn't do it for Stone or Assange. And I know some people think it's a hot potato or whatever the hell, but I don't get it. I you know I mean at this point I said you know Snowden showed us think about how far we've come. Snowden's like

oh my god this guy showed us that uh uh the government surveilling us and now what do we have? We have Trump like having Doge connect Palunteer to all these federal government databases. It's like public government policy. And and by the way people aren't outraged by it. The one thing I'm going to say is right up front it, you know, all of the blowback whether they're false flags or not stemming from this. Um, this is always what happens when there are these kinds of emergencies and then we the people get screwed because we get more surveillance. I, you know, I remember when Trump won, he brought in some TSA guy and people were talking about he's going to make the TSA great

again. This was this was like some story and I travel a lot. I mean, we travel probably half the time. TSA is worse. Going through the checkout process is worse. They've got these new scanners now where maybe you don't have to like take off your shoes or some other security theater thing, but then they have to run it through three times. It ends up taking longer. We we've actually we almost missed our flight recently and we show up to the airport first. There's no uh improvement in that process. And now, by the way, they have new rules where you can't have more than two computers per per person in carryon on a flight. I mean, I stopped doing this, but I used to take I used to take

three computers with me and an iPad and all this other stuff. And I stopped because I figured out how to, you know, use it reliably remotely or at least I thought I but I mean now it's like what are you going to do? You're going to confiscate my computer if I have three computers? Why is this a new added feature? And then there are new constraints and and now it's like medication you're you're you have to uh I saw somewhere depending on if you travel you have to provide a doctor's note about the medication that you're carrying. Like what the hell is going on? So that that hasn't improved either. And again, I don't get any of this. I don't know why why in every single

category of thing that he said he was going to do, we've gotten the opposite. Well, I think the surveillance state is being promoted by uh um all the people that think that if they just kick all the right people out and um get the voter registration roles just the right way that somehow they're going to secure these elections and that they're going to count the votes the right way. Um they don't realize we're dealing with people remember George Bush Senior, read my lips, no new taxes. >> Yeah. >> Or George Bush Jr. um he ran a whole campaign on uh peace and prosperity, no nation building. What did he do? You know, uh well, we can say um after 911, we don't know what involvement he had in

that, but um there was Afghanistan, Iraq, um Syria, and uh Iraq and Afghanistan lasted for over 20 years. So, it's pretty safe to say that when a politician says something, you just can't even take it seriously in any which way anymore. Um, what they're trying to do with this surveillance state u run by Palanteer where you know everywhere you go you're going to have facial recognition and um police checkpoints and whatever else. I mean, uh, that's so far from freedom, it's not even funny. Just the secured elections that, you know, we know we're completely rigged in every which way anyway. Um, like, you know, but we could we could have a you

could have a whole episode on how the elections are rigged. >> I think I we did have one. We were on the road and most of the audio got cut out, but you I mean, you bring up a good point. It's it's the average voter. So, go back to the founding of the country. you had to to uh you had to be a property owner. You had to be male. You you know, you had to be a white male owning property owner to uh to be able to vote. But there is there is something to be said, maybe not with those criteria, but you have to have skin in the game to vote. The idea that people can take benefits from the the government and still vote makes no sense. So,

so you know, somebody can be on welfare. So, what are they going to vote for? They're not putting anything into the system. They're only taking out. Well, what do you think they're going to vote for? >> The continuation of their dependency. So, the voting criteria make no sense. And I the way I put it like it's it would it it would be like if you have a company and instead of having shareholders vote I'm not saying it should be just like the shareholders based on the amount of taxes you pay but if you had every employee have one vote on every issue within a company the company would be bankrupt within eight weeks um because you know people that don't have any knowledge or interests or

anything like that but then so we've gone the other end. So if you actually looked at probably what the knowledge level of the voter was early on versus today and now we're in a situation where most eighth graders fail civics in history. Uh at one point in one of the podcasts I put a graph of of how the scoring is done here. Most people twothirds of Americans can't identify the three branches of government. So, you really think securing the vote is going to matter and it doesn't solve the fact that the candidates that you pick from are are predetermined who who you're even going to have on the ballot is a backroom deal that goes on behind the scenes and the

politicians aren't the people with any power anyway. It's the people like Jeffrey Epstein that are influencing things anyway. I mean, you look at something like, you know, Howard Lutnik, who before being US commerce secretary under Trump was one of the largest fundraisers for Hillary Clinton, right? These are the people that raise um millions of dollars behind the scenes. They throw these big ticket fundraisers and they anoint who the candidates are. And then there's a whole system where the media will only promote candidates that raise a certain amount of money. In order to be in debates, you have to have met a whole bunch of performance criteria. All these people are owned by

one another. So the idea that you're going to get a better outcome with ignorant voters that don't have stake in the game with a system that's pre-selected by people behind the scenes is is is absolutely stupid. It's just more cope. It's more unwillingness to take responsibility for our own actions and recognize that this thing has gotten so out of control that we need to take our power back, our money back and exit these systems. It's just more delay. You look at what Mark Pacio likes to talk about moral relativism. He thinks that's the biggest problem going on and um so you look at um for example Elon Musk he was the hero of the left u for quite some time and um everyone had uh

one everyone on the left was buying Tesla cars and they loved Elon Musk and then all of a sudden Elon became a Trump guy and then everyone on the left was uh they were running campaigns and get rid of your Tesla car. we don't like them anymore and everyone on the right was buying them, you know, based on no principle at all whatsoever, just u based on a guy and a party. So the, you know, politics is like a team sport based on uh no morals whatsoever, nor natural rights. Um and um America was based on natural rights. That's what uh this whole thing, you know, was supposed to be. Right now, the average person has no idea what rights are. They have no idea what right or wrong is. And that's

why they're um you know, for example, like in uh Princeton, New Jersey, everyone was protesting against the wars up until uh 2008 when George Bush was the president. And then in 2009 when Obama became the president, no, none of the wars changed. Afghanistan, Iraq still going strong, but the protest stopped because now their guy was in charge. So, I mean, we could just go on and on with one example after another, Democrat, Republican, and how they, you know, the principles don't mean anything. And it's just, you know, and this is where we're at right now. >> Yeah, this is where we're at. I mean, I, you know, actually, I don't know too many people that support this war in Iran. And uh

Jeffrey Tucker had sent out a tweet after we launched this thing. And usually, you know, historically, and you know, again, we've all been brainwashed. I remember sitting in junior high school and watching this channel one that was on TV. So, every morning we would show up to school and the first thing that we would see is like 30 minutes of news. And like Anderson Cooper, who's now on CNN, was actually part of this Channel One that was aired in public schools. And they would show like whatever it was where bombing Kuwait or whatever whatever the hell the the conflict was. And I just I remember watching this and like, wow, we were watching government propaganda

pro-war in public schools every morning with Anderson Cooper when I was a kid. But I remember when that happened, public support for that stuff was really high at the time. like when it when it originally happened and I even remember back with Reagan whenever Libya whatever it was we were doing and there would be you know only this is like before cable TV and everybody would sit here and watch these conflicts or whatever and polling would come out and it' be like 80% 90% are pro whatever this invasion is which of course the reality is you know probably the the percentage of people in support of the conflict is the inverse percentage actually uh represents how

many people can identify those countries on a map, right? And people, oh Kuwait, where the hell's Kuwait? I bet nobody knew where Kuwait was, but damn it, we were going to kick their ass. And the polling was really high. This thing in Iran only scored 27%. And that's right away, right? So, usually there's the well, they lie about it's only going to take a couple of days or whatever, you know, 10 years to flatten the earth, whatever it's going to be. But uh but in this particular instance, it's not popular out of the gates. And I think that there's a lack of understanding on the part of Trump and on the part of boomers about where Gen Z and millennials are on all of this.

And you know, we I think I saw something uh this week that 45% of uh Gen Z or millennials or whatever Republicans are Holocaust deniers. Um like you like that idea. So you've got like Mike Huckabe and all of these other people over here and L and Lindsey Graham and everything else and like 45% of the future of your party doesn't believe that the Holocaust uh existed or happened in any way near the the scope. Um, and you know, when I was at Liberty Forum, one of the things Scott Brown, he was asked some questions, and you know, he's uh he's been in the military for 40 years or whatever, and

he was asked about Iran, and the young people that came up are like, I'm I'm not dying for Israel. Like, I I don't think that there's an appreciation of the fact that younger people realize that they're not going to war to fight for God and country. They're going to war to fight for the people in the Epstein files. And they they really do understand that. And no one wants anything to do with it. And so that disconnect is is massive. I mean, I saw Trump the his press secretary came out and said, "We can't rule out the draft." Are you kidding me? I mean, you have kids that are like draft age or you've got one, right? And another one that you know depending upon how long this this goes and I you

know my my son is only a few years away from this. There is no way uh my kids are going to go for this and and there's no way anybody's kid should go for this. This is immoral and illegal and it's literally being done to benefit Kushner. I I'll do a whole other episode on this. We're going to do the Board of Peace on Monday, but I mean, uh, this war is is completely fake, unnecessary. Uh, there was no threat. All of this is is is kind of our responsibility and we need to get out of it. Um, and we need to change our thinking about about this stuff. Um, so anyway, I don't know how we got off on that rant, but it's it's

>> No, I I uh right now they're carpet bombing civilian cities. Um, there's a lot of people dying right now, you know, with with with the United States tax dollars paying for everything. Um, it it's, you know, I don't even think MAGA wanted this. I, you know, if you look at all the videos of Trump getting elected, he was uh he sounded like Ron Paul a whole bunch of times. >> You know, people were cheering him on and like um I heard the recruitment numbers were really bad for a while and all of a sudden they picked up again and people thought America was back and um you know basically um he's doing the you know the exact opposite of everything he campaigned on. Uh, I saw videos of um

troops of 18, 19, 20 year olds crying like a baby before they were getting on a plane to go. You know, um there's going to be a lot of people dying if they do a ground war, especially a draft. Oh boy. You know what a mess that's going to be. Uh the United States doesn't even make anything anymore. Like uh in Desert Storm, we still had manufacturing. We still had a lot of stuff in this country right now. How are they going to resupply anything? they can't, you know, um so we don't even have the ability to wage a war at at at this point. They've run out of missiles. Um they've taken the ones from South Korea and Taiwan and all the other Arab countries that they promised to protect

to give to Israel. And um it seems like uh this is turning really ugly uh very quickly. and instead of just leaving and saying, you know, this is over, you know, they're going to keep on doubling down on this. Um I I don't know what MAGA is thinking. I don't think they like this, but you know, I've heard a bunch of them justifying this, saying um you know, they're liberating the Iranian people. >> Yeah. Um I I've seen that, too. And and then you it's actually hard to find out what the actual truth is. But but then you can see other things where it's like they're saying death to America, but I like to say they're actually not that the Iranians are chanting debt to

America and they're, you know, and they're winning on on that front. I think that that's a pretty good uh that that'd be a good t-shirt. Iranians like protesting debt to America because they're we we are burning so much cash. they can run uh you know uh one cheap drone and then we're going to fire a $5 million uh missile against it. Like it's it's at some point we've become the red coats. We've absolutely become the red coats. And then clearly we were overconfident about this. I mean Trump's even saying today I said well they didn't expect this response or they thought it would be easier for regime change. I mean, we haven't been right in my lifetime uh in being able to estimate

this. I mean, how about Afghanistan? How about how's that going for everybody? No one's ever been able to figure that out. Nobody's had a clear situation. And so, um but >> they they replaced the Taliban with the Taliban after 20 years of ground war. >> Yeah. And we replaced the Ayatollah with with with his son who is more radical. How is that a good thing? I'm not even going into the fact that we created this whole mess when we did regime change in Iran in 1953 in order to protect British petroleum. The whole thing is uh you know a a scam of our own making. We created all of this problem that all of these situations and we never fix any of it. Regime change doesn't work. But the

thing is now I I actually was putting together a post. I was trying to see if I could find it on here. I was getting it ready be because I went down the path of I'm going to put together a post. I've been compiling uh military propaganda and recruitment films. And you know, you remember uh when Biden was president, they had all these like transgender ads. They would have like all of this like I'm going to compare and you know, the woke ads were stupid, but I mean the woke ads aren't any better than the Pete Hegth ads either, right? I mean it's all I I I don't know there's a certain degree of has ever anybody ever thought about the idea of is this really informed consent

like some concept of this of course when they're talking about the draft there is no consent but I mean if they're doing a lot of video game advertising in-game ads on Xbox in-game ads all over the place glorifying what this what this is all about and it seems to me That that shouldn't be uh it. This guy is trying to uh call a an a dude. I got a phone. I got headphones. I can log in to a URL. I can call a number. I put Dude, I put the URL there. I put the URL there twice. Hold on. This guy Hold on. I'm just trying to Here's the URL again. Here's the URL again. This guy's got the plan for for

winning these elections. And uh >> so but as far as self ownership goes and the cons you know the draft conscription um you know that's a direct violation of our rights and um they're basically committing you into slavery to go fight a war for Epstein's friends. Now, um, you know, it's so beyond disgusting that I, um, I can't even imagine that that's that's actually going to happen. But at this point, you know, what else, you know, they look at all the other things they've done. >> But I mean, you know, so so kids brains are not fully formed at the age in which

they're being targeted. They're being targeted these games with it. You know, look, if they're talking about banning pharma ads, we should bar we should ban military recruitment ads, right? There should be like, you know, not again, not that this is ever going to happen, but I think we should be roasting the hell out of these military recruitment ads, but but honestly, we should be coming up with some strategies to educate young people. you were telling me, I don't know if you want to share it here, but that do you want to share the story with your son and showing him the the movie or or not? If you don't, that's fine. >> Well, at one point, um um you know, if you show the movie Platoon

to your kids if they want to join the military, uh they are going to, you know, see like what's really going on and what's what you're really going to have to do. And um it's pretty disgusting. You know, there's a bunch of other movies too, but um you know, that's a prime example. Like usually the military recruitment u things are like they watch Top Gun or they see the uh these ads the few the bra the Marines that have a white glove and the sword and you know uh they don't see um you know guys coming home with one leg post-traumatic stress. They get put on tons of pharmaceutical drugs. 22 soldiers are killing themselves a day. Veterans, not not active duty anymore

from um from all the stress and the pharmaceuticals that they're on. The the amount of cost that this is going to cost the country in every which way is going to be amazing. That number 22 is going to go up a lot higher. Um and there's no actual win here in Iran for America. This war has nothing to do with the United States. >> No, it doesn't. So, so the question is how how can we counter this? How how how do we get to to young people because I now again it does seem like young people are when you see the polling or what was it the the USS Jerry Ford or whatever where they were stuffing clothes in the toilets to to to jam the toilets and then all of a sudden we didn't hear

about that about that story anymore. But but I mean >> now it has fires going on now. >> Oh, does it? >> Yeah. >> Good. I mean, look, we should be we we need to get to young people. To me, it is a uh No, I think a lot of the young people are already like, you know, look, if you're Gen Z or you're a millennial, your life is we've been in a perpetual state of war with uh um multiple economic collapses. I saw something today that the over 55 year olds control 74% of the wealth. young people can't get homes. This is why Meani won uh in New York City. This is why they have a communist

as mayor because because frankly our corrupt crony system has provided no hope and no economic opportunity. But for those like I you know I don't know how to deal with the issue. I mean, like even with Scott Brown being there, um I don't agree with the guy politically, but he believes in um he believes in the military. He believes this was just he was he was stating, "Well, you know, they've been terrorizing us for 40 years and we had to stop them." I'm like, "Dude, did you have you researched any of this or did you just hear the the sound bite?" And you know, because when you're in the military, you're taught to to give up your morality. You're taught to follow

orders and then this becomes like this multi-generational thing. I showed my daughter the movie. We watched Forest Gump the other night and you know I'd forgotten how good that movie is and I don't know if she got all the references right because I mean the thing starts from you know from Elvis Presley through Vietnam and the AIDS and everything like just it's a it's actually a great little kind of snapshot into these interesting historical events. But then I remember, you know, Gary Cise in that movie, uh, who who plays, uh, Sergeant Dan or whatever it is. Uh, that guy was so affected by that movie that I saw that this week he's like, um, he paid for a whole plane load of kids whose whose,

you know, parents died in the military to go to Disney, but I mean, he's like donated millions of dollars to these causes of just how affected he was. And I think that this stemmed from from that movie um amongst other things. And so um but how do we get this information across? I mean Vietnam was bullshit, right? People f realized after the fact to the extent that Vietnam was bullshit, but think about the position that they've got people in. So today I saw so so most college grads now can't find jobs. The job market is horrible. Um, almost Gen Z can't get housing. All of the

housing is owned by the boomers. The ratio of people selling homes to buying homes is at a record. The rate, there's never been this big of a disparity. And so, so to me, part of this is how many people are going into the military because it's the only way they can make money. Do you remember when we were at that conference in uh at Freedomfest and that guy came up and he's like, "Yeah, you know, I'm gonna do this and do this and I'm going to be able to buy a house and everything else." Um, why is this guy yo Aaron, where are you putting that link? I'm putting the link should be everywhere. This guy's trying to get on here. I've never had uh issues here. This the link should be in Rumble. Um,

>> I paste the link to the StreamYard here in StreamYard and then it goes out to YouTube and all these other channels. Now, it might not be on the Aaron Day Show uh site, but let me see about that. But you, if you're on Rumble, you should see it. If you're not seeing it, um, there's an error, but I don't even see any viewers on the airdayshow.com. I'm putting the link there as well, but you should be able to cut and paste that link. I free friotive. I don't even know that person's comments are not appearing here, which I don't know why that's happening. Uh oh, no. Friative says, "I see you." So, uh, everybody should be able to to chime in here unless

>> Did you see Did you see the US Marine in the Senate chambers last week? Yeah. The guy got his his uh arm broken. >> Yeah. Yeah. And uh that's the first time I've ever seen a US Marine actually fight the enemy. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, that was um and of course they're charging him, right? >> Yes. What is he getting charged with? Um some sort of um criminal whatever. They're going to give him like 30 years in jail even though he's a veteran. >> Yeah. Yeah. Of course. Um, and nothing's happening to the senator. But I don't know. We We should We should be creative with um AI and everything else. I I just I wonder what the profile

is of somebody >> entering the military. Now, >> I think the guy that broke his arm was a senator that was getting $840,000 per year from um Apac. So, um you know, he doesn't really even work for this country. And um you know that should have been a bigger deal uh for the American people to see that that was that's just a good example a microcosm of what's really going on in this country right now. >> It is. And so it does seem like young people are for but but we should be we I you know what maybe we should do this I I mean maybe not as part of enemies of the state but as a separate project. We should do we should get something going against the draft. The

idea that they even suggested the draft is so offensive. This guy ran on the idea of no wars in the Middle East, and now he's talking about a draft. >> I mean, no, that that shouldn't fly at all. >> The conscientious objector hotline apparently is overfilled with uh US troops trying to get out of this conflict. They realize that u this has nothing to do with America. people are dying and they don't want to have anything to do with it. Um, so as far as the draft goes, um, you know, like a a I don't know, uh, how you would actually, uh, do that as far as a go AWOL campaign or, um, you know, uh, do you get, uh, a

couple maybe Bernice King um would be a good person to talk about that. Um, what what are your thoughts on that? I don't know. I haven't really thought about it. I You know, there's um you probably get a bunch of people together. I my and my guess is there are a lot of people in the military that that might come out and speak out against this. I mean, and you actually kind of need that at some point as well. You just need a little bit of courage of people to stand up and say and say this isn't just. But the problem is that again, you know, Pacio is right on this. It's the whole idea that people are um uh order followers that they've that they've given up their

morality and they've they've allowed themselves to let to to do this whole chain of command and allow people to to issue orders and then you find out that the people issuing the orders are the Rothschilds and the Epsteines. And then it's kind of like, okay, that's actually how that works. This is actually that's the chain of command. And so this isn't something people shouldn't be proud of this. people are indoctrinated into thinking that somehow this is for something above and beyond yourself, you know, God and country and all the other stuff. And and that's that hasn't been the case, by the way. >> Um and it hasn't been the case since, you know, World War II, but you can even

argue World War II is also a false flag and all all this other stuff. Certainly in our lifetime, um there's never been a just war that was about anything other than making money for for banks and and for other for other parties. We have not been in a situation where it was this was a defensive thing at all. And and and this now is just ridiculous. Um you know, I I don't I don't even know. There's again once you find out that it's Kushner there's not like a secret oh you know people are trying to say well you just don't know what the information is you know you just didn't get access to the information people should follow Scott Horton by the way uh

at Scott Horton show and you should uh if you have the time it's worthwhile to read his books but if you don't want to read his books watch his videos and his interviews and he's frequently on all over the place he's on uh he's on with what's the guy's name uh the British guy Piers Morgan. He gets on that show quite a bit. He's always very entertaining uh to watch. Oh, I guess the Mark's telling me that this video is on freeow.com. Of course, I should have known that. The uh the uh video of them storming uh storming Ian's apartment. I may pull that up here uh in a minute. Um let me let me see.

Let me see this. All right. Let me see if this has got sound. You want me to play this uh 2 minute and 42 second clip here real quick? This is uh of of this is the government breaking into Ian Freeman. This is this is remember Ian Freeman the crime of selling Bitcoin without a license even though Ian had an opinion letter from a lawyer stating he didn't need a license. So this is the this is the scenario. This is the background on this. I need to have Mark on here to do the full story on this, but I'm going to play this real quick and uh we can come back after. >> Get over here to Ian's place. They got FBI here. I was awakened by smashing

glass. Crash >> an armored truck with a battering ram through the window and there's this big hunk of metal sticking through my window. I didn't believe it for a second. There's a bunch of people out there, the FBI, the ATF, the IRS, or the local police. There was at least half a dozen to a dozen different departments. It was absolutely horrifying and all over some victimless financial so-called crimes. >> It was the most egregious use of force I've ever seen. Ian Freeman was arrested alongside five other people for the masterly crime of selling cryptocurrency. >> Free the crypto. >> Nothing I could have done would have caught this. >> Thanks for fighting the good fight, man.

>> I came across this technology of the Bitcoin vending machine. This is a device that allows you to purchase different cryptocurrencies with US dollars. >> You put cash into it. You show it your wallet code for your Bitcoin wallet. And then Bitcoin arrives in your wallet. It literally is like selling a candy bar or a soda. You're just selling a product. Ian made every effort every effort to prevent scammers from being involved in this process. >> These people are so deep into these scams. It's so so tragic. >> What are you doing? What are you doing? You're under arrest. What am I under arrest for? >> I told you to back up. >> We did everything we could to stop those scams from happening.

>> Banks were involved in every one of these transactions. They never were successful in stopping these scammers. A 20-year FBI agent couldn't catch a scammer. Why is Ian Freeman responsible for catching them? >> Even though my codefendants took guilty p, they didn't do that because they actually did anyone any harm or created any kind of victims. They did it because they were afraid to be up against what could be a life sentence in prison for completely victimless crimes. >> It's a sad day for for liberty in New Hampshire. It's a sad day for Bitcoin. Fought for all of us for fought for our freedom. >> An incarcerated individual at Marramck County New Hampshire Department of Corrections.

>> Whenever the government prosecutes you, you always are going to lose. >> It wasn't ever really about stopping scam artists. It wasn't ever about protecting the old people that got taken advantage of. They were just the stepping stones that the federal agents used to get a conviction. They don't care about actually helping these people. >> Get over here to Ian's place. You know, there's actually a longer clip that uh was played at Anarchip Pokco, but that's good. The other one was like seven minutes long with kind of just

more of the footage of exactly what was going on. And you see Bonnie coming outside and and just, you know, destroying the windows, destroying just it's it's it's insane what the the level of the militarization of of the police. You know, the irony of this is that, you know, Ian was there along with many other free stator when we were protesting uh the city of conquered and others from even acquiring these military uh vehicles to begin with. That's a whole other conversation about the militarization of the police. But um but you know, this is this is where we're at. I'm trying to help this guy out. I'm trying to get to my uh my Rumble feed uh because he's claiming

which may very well be the case that I'm not getting all of the chats um all the chats from Rumble. Apparently, somebody's all right. Let's see what we got here. Uh I'm showing zero comments. Oh, okay. the live chat. I I see the live chat. Um yeah, now I'm seeing all that stuff. I I guess I'm not sure what uh you got to click on this. Oh, so I guess my my comments aren't that's new. I thought people were able to get this. This is

actually kind of eye opening. I got to fix this. Um that would explain a lot. people haven't been getting the the link to Streamyard to join the chat, then that explains that. I I'll look into a better way of of doing this. You know, the thing that that sucks about all this is most we have 2400 people live now, almost 200 people live, but most of them come through X and the X thing doesn't integrate chat. So, I've got to figure that out because we're missing the ability for the largest part of our audience to uh actually interact, which seems like a really bad design feature uh on the part of X. So, maybe there's a another

solution. I'll do some researching and see if there's a way to to get those comments added because it'd be better to get get people to be more interactive. So, now I now I see now I see what's going on. Now I see what this guy's been talking about. So anyway, where were we before this? I know we were talking about we were on some other thread. >> We were talking about the draft and uh whatever else. And uh um you know I I would not be surprised if there's a false flag attack anytime soon. Um where it justifies the administration having that ground war and having that draft. I really hope that doesn't happen. Um but um you know, who knows at this point. Um

the fact that um you have two different strategies in front of us. Um you can vote them out. You can keep on organizing to get your favorite politician elected and you know Aaron you know he's running uh in New Hampshire right now and you know hope he wins. But um you know another strategy also which Erin is actually the biggest proponent of is exit and build. you know, don't use their medical system. Don't use their money. You know, when you use their money, you're just promoting all the wars. You're promoting all the your enslavement. Um, you know, don't listen to controlled media. Um, you know, build a whole a whole uh new life, a whole new system for yourself

and your family and everyone around you. Um, you can still vote if you want to, but um, you know, um, real changes are going to come from exiting and building, you know, all brand new systems. Um, you know, we saw during the COVID um era that the whole medical system is completely corrupt. You know, Dr. FSY did crimes against humanity. He's still walking around free. Nobody's he never got in trouble. Um the financial system completely broken. The justice system completely broken. Um the elections are completely rigged. Um so this is kind of where we're at. I guess it's we could say it's a the end

of the empire and uh let's see what's going to happen next. You know, I just I I I just saw something here posted by uh Jeffrey Tucker and um new terms of service pushed out today for uh presumably his bank. So, new section 8E digital wires transaction limits to clarify that to protect your account online wire transaction limits may have daily or rolling 30-day restrictions and that we meet we may establish or modify limits on the amount, frequency, or type of transactions you can initiate using our payment services or your transaction limits may be temporarily

reduced or subject to additional restrictions. subsections following this one have been dumbered. Listen, I've said this time and time and time again. You do not own the money in your bank account. You never have. This has been part of the terms of service from the beginning of your bank account. They can cancel your account without cause. They can change the terms and conditions. But what Jeffrey is saying here is that very frightening. Look, the banking system isn't even fractional reserve anymore. After the car's act during COVID, you banks used to be required to have 10% of customer deposits on reserve and they got rid of that and they never put it back after the COVID thing went away.

Your banks do not have money. So, um, we're in a situation right now where there's all this volatility. All these bankers are investing all these leverage strategies with this kind of volatility with oil and with everything that's going on uh entire financial system could implode at any point in time. This is why since 2023 when I ran for president, I I initially called it bankr run now. And by the way, Ian Freeman had me on free talk live and he read the entirety of my bankr run manifesto which was the whole campaign strategy. Not campaign strategy was the whole point of the campaign. Listed all the stuff that I'm talking about now

that you don't own the money that the money is being used to fund all of these wars and that the way out of it doesn't require you to vote. just requires you to not comply and so on and so forth. But I was right then and in in in some respects I think I've been vindicated on a lot of things. I've been vindicated on the Epstein stuff with crypto. I've been indicate, you know, vindicated on some of the government regulation and surveillance. But I'm telling you that the the control of money is the key to this entire thing. And if they can restrict and program your money, which they already can, then that's the way they keep you trapped. If you get out and you start using privacy coins like

Zeno and Freedom Dollar and Monero um and Pirate Chain and others and you start to use those for day-to-day trade, if you start using gold backs, if you start using physical silver, then you are not dependent on their system. But the waiting does not benefit you. There's no situation if you're sitting around thinking, well, you know, Congress is going to put in things to protect me. They're not. What they're putting in place is backdoor CBDC's where now it, you know, the money you have is mostly electronic, but now it's going to be completely programmable. You can go to freedom.com. They've got a whole section where they outline all of the seizures that are going on with Tether

and USDC. You can see the billions and billions of dollars and thousands of transactions where people's money is shut off. If you thought COVID was bad and the situation with determining that hey your business is not essential or um you know whatever it is that they wanted to put in place, restrictions of travel and everything else, they will be able to meet and do all of this programmatically. Um, I mean, it took Trudeau a little bit of time to shut off the money to the truckers. There was a little bit of a process with programmable digital money. They could do this instantly. And if your business is in a category that's non-essential, they'll shut off your money. They'll shut off the supply

chain. Well, we're not moving. There's nothing being done to improve our privacy. All of the legislation, the Genius Act and the Clarity Act, makes all of this worse. So, if you're sitting there saying, "Well, I'm going to wait and see what happens." Well, I've been reporting on what's happening for an entire year. I've analyzed all of these bills. I provided this information in articles. You can find it at day2026.com. Your money is not safe in the bank. Your investments are not safe. Your 401ks aren't safe. What the Clarity Act is going to do, it's going to take your investment portfolio and it's going to do what's called tokenizing it, which basically means it's going to add the

ability for them to freeze and program and track your investment. So, it's not the situ the situation people talk about is, "Oh, I said something online and they shut off my money." No, they'll shut off your ability to sell your house. They may shut off your ability to use your car. They'll shut off your ability to transfer your assets to sell your investments. It is a complete control system and that is the end state of technocracy. We we can still defeat this but the thing that we don't have the only advantage we have is time. But once they put the clarity act in and they add more dig uh more tokenization and more surveillance, we lose the ability to exit. We lose the ability to

protest. Frankly, as we're talking about this, this is why these crypto prisoners of war are still crypto prisoners of war. Not that they did anything that was illegal, but that they were doing things that would actually give people a chance for freedom and a chance to opt out of a technocratic control system. And so, this is why we have to defend them, but more well, not more importantly, but as important as defending these guys. And I said this early on when they targeted Roger. Not only do we need to advocate for these prisoners, but we need to not let it have a chilling effect. I mean, that video with Ian where he's showing crypto ATMs and everything else, I can't

even imagine how many people Ian onboarded to crypto. Ian onboarded Roger Ver to Bitcoin. Ian onboarded countless businesses and ATMs, individuals and people throughout the state of New Hampshire. And so then when he's in prison, I will tell you, I was at Portfest. And there are other people that operated Bitcoin ATMs and they were getting out of the Bitcoin ATM business. There are probably fewer Bitcoin ATMs today than there were when Ian was there. There are certainly fewer restaurants and fewer shops that take crypto directly. So part of what I said is, well, look, I'm going to not only advocate for them, but I'm going to continue to advocate that people use

these technologies because that's where they win, not only by silencing them. What should happen is, you know, every time somebody like Ian gets thrown in prison, a thousand people should stand up and say, "No, we're not going to comply." and on board other people to these alternatives. Um, unfortunately this stuff has a tent. So people are living in fear. People, the average person has a job they hate and a lot of them have that job that they hate for insurance that won't protect them because every minute in this country somebody files for medical bankruptcy. Most of those people have insurance. So they have this job they don't like for insurance that doesn't protect them from

catastrophe so that they can earn retirement portfolios and have 401ks and stocks that they don't even own that Black Rockck votes in companies that are building their digital prison. And so at some point you have to wake up and look at that and say I already don't own anything. I'm not living my purpose. All of this shit is a scam and I'm not putting up with it anymore. And you start by exiting. The most effective thing you can do is to stop using the dollar because that stops them from blowing up 170 school girls in Iran. That stops them from being able to do this. We comply with this and then are surprised. All this could stop tomorrow. If everybody, if not even everybody, if

3% of the people took all their money out of the bank, the whole thing is shut down. That's literally all it takes. That's the thing that's frustrating because I've been saying this. I I write about this in this book, The Final Countdown. That is literally all it takes. There is no you don't have to win an election. There's no party that needs to change this. You just need to say I'm not going to use their money anymore. And then and then they're powerless. But they're only powerless for for this interim period of time before everything is a backdoor CBDC. Once they can program all of the money and everything that we own, then I don't know how the hell we're going to

protest. I guess we'll come up with something else. But but honestly, our our odds of winning become dramatically worse if we lose control over over money. So I am I'm continuing to advocate for that. That that's what my Senate race is going to be about. But but Senate race isn't any different than anything I've been doing for the last three and a half years. It's just doing it in the context of a of a campaign. But it's this is serious now. And you know, my shirt said, uh, bank run now, halt CBDC, stop World War II, end the Fed. That was what the shirt said. Now, now it's, you know, ditch the dollar, halt technocracy, stop World War II, and then the Fed. There's not that's that's the only

difference is that I realized as I've studied this more that CBDC's are just part of a an even worse framework of technocracy. But I'm serious about this and I post on it probably three times a week. And now I will say there are people that have listened to this. There are people that have commented that have actually done it. I've had people send me emails, thank you for this. I've exited the system. Same is true with gold and silver. You've got gold and silver through some fault or paper gold and silver, it's useless. anything where there's a third party or some company in the middle uh you're at risk because there's a that one the company may be committing fraud.

There's a whole I even outlined this in the book the whole history of of you know gold vaults and and you know what they've done with issuing certificates but they're also easy targets for the government for confiscation. This is why, you know, when I rip apart Bitcoin, you know, I mean, there are variety of reasons, but but if you have it through an ETF or on an exchange, you don't own it. And but I I want to add one thing to this, too. You see this new form they have for auditing people's crypto? It's like this long form where it lists a whole bunch of wallets and exchanges and you're supposed to report all of the holdings that you've ever had going back like before 2023.

This is under the Trump administration. I'm sorry. At some point, um this has been a complete rugpole and I've been adamant I've been very direct about the fact that I mean I have spent 30 years doing political activism. I've done it at a whole variety of different levels, which is why I don't have any confidence anymore. But I've never seen anything as incompetent as the way the Bitcoin maxis have gotten involved with these negotiations. And now I'm hearing the reason the Clarity Act might not pass is because people are upset that Brian Armstrong, the CEO of uh of Coinbase, isn't advocating for, you know, the elimination of tax on the use of Bitcoin for transactions less than

$300. The point of this was digital cash separate from state, not we're trying to get a crony deal for our crypto to not have tax applied to it while everybody's transactions are going to be tracked for five years and shared with foreign central banks. This is like this is idiotic. It's actually anti-freedom. These people are incompetent. They're unprincipled. And you know, and now in addition to having to fight the dollar, we have to fight the perception that somehow, you know, holding Bitcoin through a third party is going to be the answer to a CBDC, which is also nonsense if you just think about it for 10 seconds. So that's my that's that little rant. But, you know, I I don't know. Look, I

tried to be uh supportive of Trump. I told people when about Trump, if you're gonna vote for Trump, you know, you're voting for Trump because of the Ross pardon, but don't expect him to be good on anything else. I did a podcast with Dr. Irene and I said even at the time, I'm like, understand what you're doing, but don't think just because you're voting for him to pardon uh Ross that he's actually going to somehow become good on any policy issues. And he certainly hasn't. But we're we're now at the point where it's like, you know, we've done I don't know how many of these podcasts now. I I did 50 something podcast last year. I've generally been doing one a week or

whatever. And I have spent a lot of these talking about the Genius Act and the Clarity Act. And no one has come on to defend these things. And we've had thousands and thousands and tens of thousands of people. The one that I did on the Genius Act had 20,000 people live or something. at one point and no one has come on to defend this legislation. No one has come in the comments to defend this legislation. That should tell you something. I'm still waiting to find somebody to justify it. I There are all these accounts promoting this stuff, but then when you ask people about what's in it, they don't know what it is. They're like, "Well, you know, we're going to be

the crypto capital of the world. What the hell does that even mean?" Nobody knows what that means, but if you read the bill, you'll understand money flows to where there's the where it's the freest. This is a generally understood concept. So, the idea that we're adding surveillance on everybody's transactions and that somehow that's going to make us the crypto capital of the world flies in the face of anything anybody understands about markets at a very basic level. So, I don't know. That's h what a what a situation that we're in. But yeah, we should think about this. We should talk about something on the I'm sure if we if we encourage people to go awall, we end up getting thrown in

prison for doing something without a money transmitter license or conspiracy to commit treason. I'm sure they have some there's some fallback there that says no, it's perfectly legal for them to lie to people and manipulate people who are young and whose brains are still forming uh and to manipulate them without their informed consent because it's national defense. I'm sure that that that's a carveout somewhere. But it does make me mad. And I wonder what Pacio thinks. I mean, I know Pacio's thoughts and he's done a number of podcasts and everything talking about cops and people in the military and so forth u that are um you know order followers, but but then I

take it a step back. I mean, how how would So, if you're like if you're 17 and you grew up and you you were in government schools and you know, let's say your dad was in the military or whatever and and then his dad was in the military and you're taught growing up that, you know, God and country and this is this is the whole thing. And then and then you know you're you're playing on your Xbox and you've got all these ads telling you that you could be all you could be in the in the Marines and or excuse me in the army and then you know they show you use drones and blow stuff up and you know again you're 17 you're going through puberty you're pumped with testosterone and everything else. I mean

I can see how people get tricked into that. And after, you know, the Ron Paul revolution, I can't tell you how many people that got involved with Ron Paul because they were in the military and realized that they were lied to. And and I know several of those people even in New Hampshire that ended up committing suicide because of this. And so um so yes, they're order followers, but then there's also this issue of lack of informed consent. So, it's like I So, it's almost like it's a tragedy because you could see how they're pushed into this situation and then add to it that, you know, people have no economic uh opportunities or jobs. Oh, here we go. This might be this might be the guy. Hey,

>> hello. >> Hello. >> Here, let me change my audio back to headphones here. Hold on a second. >> All right. while he's doing that. Um, if if a lot of the troops like remember Adam Kesh, um, the Veterans Against the War and, uh, these guys realized right away that the very enemies of America were not in some overseas, um, you know, desert or some overseas place. They were actually right there in Washington DC. or as Ron Paul would say the biggest enemies to freedom and liberty are in the 10 square miles of Washington DC in the whole world. Um a lot of that, you know, the number one donation to Ron Paul when he ran for president was from

active duty servicemen. uh they outnumbered all the other 10 candidates combined because he uh you know they they get sold a bill of goods that they're going to fight for freedom and then they realize right away that freedom has nothing to do with their mission or America and u that's why you got the suicides and you got you know most of the Libertarian party are veterans you know um with an anti-war stance you know so >> well are they anti-war now I mean you know this is the I I I struggle with the Libertarian Party because every time I try to get involved, it's either it, you know, sometimes they're like left-wing communist and then then the next time all of a sudden they're like they're

like um neocons. >> That's true. >> It's baffling. I don't know. I even know how to and I don't understand where it is now. And I guess it depends on which state you're in. Um because I've seen some libertarians pushing some pretty authoritarian anti-lberty positions lately. That might have been uh the case of the veterans in the Libertarian Party. That might have been the case more about um 10 years ago. I'm not sure that's too much of a case anymore, but you know, a lot of the people you do meet in the Liberty Movement got there because they were soldiers and they found out real quickly um you know, what's really going on. So, um it's unfortunate that people have to

learn the hard way. Some pe a lot of them get their li uh arms blown off, legs blown off um you know mangled and uh and for what you know um it's it's it's really a shame. It's uh you know Pacio would say that the people that actually know what they're doing are Satanists. Um people that are actually receiving money to follow hurt other people. Um you know and he thinks this is a whole spiritual game. um being played out between uh good and evil. And um now the people on the bottom rung, you know, people have good intentions that realize real quickly what's going on, but they're they're they're not the Satanist, but the people at the top, the

people that are causing all this, the people that are sending all causing all these wars, death, destruction, debt, slavery, those people are bad people. And somehow they always seem to rise to the top. Um, I mean that could be a whole topic in itself, but um, I think that's what Pacio would say about that. >> Yep. >> Um, P in the RS, are you there? >> Uh, check one two. >> There we go. I can hear you. >> No way. You can hear me? >> Yeah. >> Wow. What about What about Blondie over there? >> Dan, can you hear him?

>> Yeah, I can hear him loud and clear. >> All right, cool. Yeah, I was just going to run something by just an idea. Okay. So, um for um kind of dovetails some of the things you been talking about like the disaffected youth, the uh elections coming up, the draft possibly coming up. What if we had a voting like okay, not a real voting system like the votes would not be counted by the electorate. just an alternative voting platform where you know kind of kind of kind of liken it to like

maybe Poly Market or something where everybody can vote, everybody votes. It's on a blockchain, a Zano blockchain, which is private, but by using our site to vote. They can see their answers on a blockchain, and they can send us a confirming email saying, "Yes, that is my vote, right?" And we basically what it would be is like, you know, people would vote on the site. Um it would be saved to blockchain you know it would be the value the key would be like a hashed uh key from you know comprising I'm thinking an address a name a a phone number and an email address

all of them being primary or whatever it's not going to work for everybody you know maybe somebody's like got some kind of weird addressing system that doesn't get hashed out correctly right? Or, you know, if it matches somebody else's hash, it's going to get kicked out. We don't have the time to figure out who's got the right hash, right? Which, you know, it's kind of first come, first serve. But it would give you a general impression, something you could trust, like you can say, well, you know, let's call the site um save your life or, you know, or, you know, vote America or whatever. And and they can go to the site. It'll produce a report saying this is how many people

voted for who in this race for who etc etc by our site. Uh and we can give the the statistics on how that's either a significant random sampling or you know not an insignificant but whatever man here's the data. I think it'd be a lot better than trusting the uh so-called surveying polling authorities as to what the uh what they what they figure you know what the you know when when they do when they do the uh when they ask people who they voted for you those polling things that they do. >> Yeah. Yep. >> To me, man, everything's fake at this point. All right. The voting numbers are fake. The polling numbers are fake. It's all control. This

would give us something that is, you know, testable at least. >> Yeah. I mean, you know, of course, the problem with that is you'd have to have enough people that would have Zeno and there are some other adoption barriers. But, you know, there is I, you know, I mean, my the whole point I've been saying is kind of, you know, America 1.0 is over. Then the question is, if you were to start something new, how would you do it? I think that that there's um some interesting things to explore if you were starting from scratch as to how you would handle handle voting. And you know there are network states which I think network states are an interesting concept. They just seem to be always

implemented by technocrats which is something that I'm struggling with. Um >> a a network state is is what what is that? A network state is, you know, it's basically a new um form of political organization where usually first people start out online where they have shared interests, but then they actually go and try to buy uh a physical sovereignty from another country and and then turn it into a country with its own rule sets where, you know, they have their own constitution or whatever their framework is, however they're structured. You have Liberland. I don't know if Liberland is technically a a network state, but Liberland is its own country and they

have their own voting system and and they're even developing like a a judicial system that's a hybrid between AI and and everything else. So, there's a there's Prospero and Honduras. There are a number of these network states that have been started all over over the world. Um and a lot of the network states start out with you know a specific focus like they may start with the idea that you know it's about longevity. So so all the people in the network state or it's people like Brian Johnson and people that are working on life extension but you know if you have your own sovereignty maybe you can do some genet do do some experiments that might not be legal in other countries. And so anyway,

there there are a bunch of these uh that that are being tried all around the world. This guy Sterling Luhan has has written about or is writing a book about it and has explored some of these things. The only problem is you know and a general concept behind these is that you should >> I'm not I'm not really talking about a network state. >> Yeah. >> I'm just talking about uh what's a good analogy? I'm just talking about basically a um let's say you know a way to a way to check your vote really. So uh you know these these tallies were just will just be uh reported from the website which is a

decentralized uh the architecture be have very decentralized uh kind of think of like a tour network but not as slow because but >> yeah in order to do that they'd have to get legislation to make that valid and accepted which which >> oh no no I'm Not even saying these votes are accepted. I'm just saying this is like instead of I'm just saying this would be something that you can check your vote against and say, "Listen, man. What's up? I know I voted this way." I've got 8,000 emails from my friends in town who say they voted this way, too, but he didn't win. You know, the guy didn't win. >> Yeah. >> So, people can sit around and say, "What's up with that?" You know, and you

know, there's 805 people in our city. 8,000 voted for Ted. Ted lost, you know. So, you know, >> I I hear you. I hear you. Well, yeah. If you found a a town or something you could experiment with that, that would be that would be interesting. That would be interesting. >> I I got one. Yeah. >> Yeah. Um so, yeah, I've got um somebody here. Quantum AI is took over. Look at the blockchain ISO 2022. This ISO 2022 thing is like I I want to find out who started promoting this scam. The ISO 2022 is just a information

format for banks to transfer information and people have come up with this story that it's somehow a new quantum financial system and it's like tied into XRP and XLM and it's just it's not. It's a data standard for formatting information about financial transactions. Um, I I I desperately want to find out who's behind this. I mean, I I actually suspect I think Steve Bannon or some other people are behind this, but so many people believe in this that I don't even know I I don't even know where to begin. But that's a little >> like like legit people believe in it. It's either legit or it's an effective massive number of bots.

>> Well, it's always it's always the bots, bro. At this point, you know, it's always the bots. Well, there's there's this guy that has this account, this guy on on X, Ariel, and like this guy has got a whole bunch of people believing in the re-evaluation of the dinar, Iraqi dinari, and like he's just this all of this stuff and and people keep believing this and now he's got like 500,000 followers and he's got a paid Substack and everything. And I'm like, I I can't I don't even know >> that's bots. Nobody no real person is gonna believe in something that extreme. >> Oh, I I I did a whole episode on Nsara and Jasara. You can go on to Rumble and the these are not bots. They they they

have tricked a whole bunch of a lot of them are frankly old ladies uh that believe there's going to be a debt jubilee. So there have been lawsuits about this because uh people have stopped paying their mortgages. I was following Chris Skyy's Telegram site and he tried to talk me into that. I don't know if it was the real Chris Sky. The account said the real Chris Sky, but >> yeah, they they tried they tried to hit me with that, but I was like I forgot my my response was something like um I don't know. I wanted to see some some some returns or I don't know. I asked them something. They like totally ghosted me. Yeah, but I mean this then then part of the scam became medbeds and I think that

actually the Nisara Jasar people that morphed into QAnon and and like this stuff is still going and now it now it's roped in XRP and XLM and it's just it's it's frustrating. I did a a a whole episode debunking it and then you obviously you know there are bots because there are a bunch of things on Rumble where their comments where they're pushing people to sign up for it >> where clearly the bot didn't they just saw that Jesara was in the title and didn't see that it was a >> video debunking it. But it pisses me off because there are a lot of old ladies in particular and then with the medbeds people are not getting medical treatment because there are going to be these med

beds that you just sit in and it cures all of your diseases. people aren't getting medical treatment and it's just, you know, on and on and on. Um >> I think I saw a piece on that through your site. >> Yeah. Yeah. No, I did an episode on it and um you know I I hope we can track some of this down. I I it is sophisticated and how it works, but I mean, you know, look that Trump even I I there are some top MAGA people that believe in this >> um >> yeah, >> and that actually push it. I'm trying to think of what's the guy um uh he works with Michael Flynn.

Uh he's >> Benz. No, >> no, not Benz. He's um he's bald. He's a short bald guy who was in the Green Beret. >> And he's been a lawyer and so he like he was at the Libertarian convention in 2024. I've seen this guy around. He was also at the Rage Against the War Machine thing and uh you know, I was texting him back and forth and you know, I told him I use crypto golden servers like oh yeah, you ready for the quantum reset and XRP and everything else? I'm like this this is like a guy that works directly with >> Ivan Ranken. >> Yeah, Ivan I Ivan pushes this stuff and that that actually set off a red flag that to me because he actually works directly with Michael Flynn and I'm kind of like all

right that actually is a piece of information. Um so I think we're getting getting close. >> That's a tip off right there. Flynn's involved. >> Yeah, Flynn and then I think Steve Bannon. Uh anyway, the long Steve Bannon and Brock Pierce and and the whole Gamergate thing and 4chan. I I believe at some point we might be able to track down where all this QAnon stuff came from. I was just you know the fact that people were rooting for military law and you know suspension of the Constitution and that we were going to execute pedophiles 10 days of darkness on closed caption TV. I mean, it just it's it's not only the fact that that was absurd that anybody was working on

that, but the idea that people were >> That was me, man. I put that out there. That was me, dude. Come on. >> That was you. Congratulations. >> Come on. Yeah, that was me. >> Someone say so ISO 2022 is messaging system and Fed Now is using it. Yes, it's a messaging system. It's a format for you're telling somebody how much money you're spending, where it's going to go, and whatever. It's literally like refor It's formatting a document. It doesn't change anything about money. There is nothing significant about it. It's a just a different way of of sharing information about a financial transaction than the previous Swift system. But it's not there's nothing important about it. Nobody's cry

nobody's crypto is using it. It has nothing to there's no quantum reset of the financial system. It's a outright scam. And I actually posted on this this week. So you if you search me, I did a whole kind of breakdown on what it is. But um you know, we get I I always want to remind people that about this stuff whenever it comes up because I've been to conferences and man, I'll tell you, it's a lot of boomers. I was at a medical freedom concert uh medical freedom concert, medical freedom event. There were 500 people in the audience and I gave a little talk or whatever about technocracy and most of the people that came up to me because this is not a native crypto crowd. The number one

thing they were asking me about was XRP and the quantum financial reset. Not even kidding. That was the So this stuff I don't know what you know boomer Facebook page or whatever. I don't know what set of media channels are pushing this stuff out, but it is very much alive and well and and real and and it it distracts from any ability to um to get people to use alternatives. Uh it's such a massive scop. I mean, and it's even to the point where it's like, yeah, well, you know, the Bank of International Settlements is involved and they're going to they're going to eliminate all of our debt and then they're going to give us these XRP tokens that are backed by gold. I'm

like, really? You're rooting for the BIS, the Bank of International Sundance, the guys that were that were laundering Nazi gold, where the guy now on there is saying that that uh they like CBDC's because they can program and freeze and track people's money. Those are the new white hats that are going to give you a gold token on XRP. Holy shit. >> They're not the head of the beast. They're the heart of the beast. >> Yep. I so I I don't know may maybe I haven't actually searched the Epstein files to see if there's anything about uh Qanon or any of these other concepts. I wouldn't be surprised at this point to find out that Jeffrey Epstein is cute. >> That the Jeff that Jeffrey Epste is

what? >> That Jeffrey Epstein is Q. That would make sense at this point, >> man. Dude, >> you need to copyright that, bro. Yeah, >> Jeffrey Stein is Q. Oh, people heads would explode instantaneously. >> Yeah. Um, >> it'd be like It'd be like mowing the daisies. >> Yeah. I don't know, man. We live in weird times. >> So, what does XRP uh what' you say? What's XRP? uh gold, >> XRP and XLM, they both get thrown into it, which is another mystery. And and that somehow everybody's like, "Oh, the banks are going to use it now ISO 2022

and it's going to be backed by gold. They're going to forgive all of debt." There's actually zero evidence for there's not a single piece of evidence before it that people have taken a bunch of concept like the idea that people would be promoting ISO an ISO standard as being significant. >> Well, see people are seeing that like Bitcoin may or may not be real. They don't know. So, people are throwing gold behind it and saying, "Oh, now it's real." Right? You can tell it's real, man, because it's got gold on it. Like tethered gold, you know, right? I mean, like uh wouldn't matter what it is. Once they go um

uh you know, once they go techn accuracy, it's it's whatever they want, man. It's whatever they say it is. It's like I don't know. >> Yeah. Listen, listen to this. I just searched this up uh some account Paul Gold Eagle. So this is from uh February the 20th 2026. The quantum financial system digital gold asset B uh based currency called ISO 2022 went live and was currently operating on XLM lumens and XRP stellar blockchain. On Sunday 1 March 2026, the deep state cabal's Federal Reserve fiat US dollar would no longer be accepted for payment according to President Trump on True Social 21 January 2026. Since then, the deadline

appears to have changed in the end of April. Uh like there's actually there's nothing uh you know XLM lumens and XRP stellar blockchain like like they didn't even spell blockchain right and like they like like the whole it would be XLM stellar lumens and then XRP like there's nothing accurate about this post and so this guy Paul White Gold Eagle has 147,000 or excuse 143,700 followers and his description is 5D, new earth rising, great awakening, XRP, QBS, RV, GCR,

love, joy, bliss, health, and abundance for all. Like, this this is fake. This this entire thing is fake. And so, are they all bots? Are all of the 147,000 followers bots? I mean, some of them aren't. There are there are people that fall for this and they use enough of the they you know you fake it till you make it. You use enough bots and then all of a sudden um you've captured 50,000 real people that believe that it's real because of the 50,000 bots. >> Dude, that's that's the most that that's the highest paying job you can get as an Indian uh AI specialist is sending out bots that look real but are fake.

Yeah. And and so I'm scrolling down. I just I typed in ISO 2002 and then the next account that pops up, John Fitzgerald Kennedy Jr., real John John Jr., right? So there's an account for you. Um, again, this is this is why I feel like it's it's it's it got the complete overlap with Q and um and and unfortunately people like some of these posts have a lot of traffic. So, it's really sophisticated bots and you know and some of these are some of these are verified accounts. Um, I just want to know who came up with the marketing strategy behind this.

>> What I mean, uh, uh, they just put out a fake announcement, man. That's all. I mean, it could it could be any, uh, you know, any, uh, sus. It's going to be somebody at a high level. All right. who has some bucks and they have some uh some leeway with the media and uh I'm going with MI6, man. What do you think? I mean, MI6 has access to Indian programmers, right? There you go. >> I mean, I don't know. I I I think Steve Bannon is involved. I just

his involvement with Brock Pierce, his involvement with Gamergate, uh 4chan, and and it this is the kind of strategy that he would do. And in the Epstein files, he was even talk they were talking about creating a uh uh a cryptocurrency and doing a fundraising scheme. Um and what do you call uh instead of deplorables, it was they they roped rubles in there. deplorables. Deplorables. And I'm just like, so you seeing this back and forth where it's like Steve Bannon doesn't care about populism. He's like laughing at everybody uh but good at putting together this message. Somebody says, "Do you know who R3 is?" Yeah. So, you know, R3 is uh the company

that's involved with um correct regulatory liability network, regulated liability network. and Mike Hearn, who is one of the Bitcoin Core developers, was working on this. I actually write about this in uh in my book. Yeah. They're all going to use ISO. Again, ISO 2022, who cares? It's a data standard for banks, right, >> to communicate payment information. Yeah. And for CBDC's. The the issue with this, >> it makes it makes you smarter, if you say it, though. But I mean the problem with it is it's like I'm like why would you be cheering on first of all there aren't any cryptocurrencies that are that are actually using it. Everybody will say XRP but but why would we think

that is a good idea? Why is this a how are people writing up posts like oh this is great. This is going to be financial reset because you're programmable centralized token that's backed by fiat can communicate with banks. >> Yeah. I mean, their press release is literally saying nothing. >> Yeah. No, I know. I This guy's not pushing this. He's just He's just I think he's just he's just pointing this out. It's scary. Yeah. No, it is. It is scary. The R3 thing is scary. The R3 is one of three pilots. This is true. Also that I discussed in my book, the the thing with R3 and regulated liability network is one of the pilots that MIT worked on with the Federal Reserve that

was funded by Jeffrey Epstein. It is really scary because you find out that all three of these USCBDC pilots and the stable coins USDC and Tether all had Epstein and you know Brock this intersection of ex Epstein and Brock Pierce and MIT. Uh it's absolutely frightening which is why when they hijacked Bitcoin and made Bitcoin digital gold instead of digital cash, this is the part that people are missing now. People aren't using Bitcoin as payments. They're using it as digital gold. and then they went off and created multiple versions of a programmable version uh uh version of the dollar and fiat. This is why we are screwed. This is why I'm saying that I don't care if

people hold Bitcoin, but Bitcoin is not an answer to CBDC's uh and it's not an answer to government regulated stable coins. You may decide you like it for other reasons, but make no mistake, it could have been that and it was repurposed. Are they going to hand over the ISO 2022 to AI? Well, yeah. I mean, they're using AI with your bank transactions already. Your bank and crypto exchanges are handing over all of the data. If you look at the Clarity Act, the reporting there, there's real time reporting on all of your financial transactions through exchanges, which will extend to realworld assets, right? >> And they have they have to keep they have to record it in real time. They

have to be able to reconstruct your transactions and then share that with the US government, foreign central banks. So, is ISO going to be a part of that? It actually doesn't even matter. The fact that there's a standard doesn't even matter when you have AI because you can use AI to actually track everything anyway. But you have to understand all your transactions are tracked anyway, >> right? >> It's all through stable coin. They're not going to use anything with stable coins for anything. You you go get your driver's license renewed. What are you paying? Stable coin, right? what whatever the whatever lookcoin or Trumpcoin whatever you know >> yeah literally USD1 or tether or

whatever so or or USDC which Epstein was an investor early on in 2014 it's it's all I don't know it's all it's also tiresome because I I don't know how to again I and I don't even know how much of this now is fake right it's kind of like we talked about the these accounts 143,000 followers is anybody actually excited about this or is All are all the articles are fake by the the crypto for uh so-called media which is owned by companies that benefit from the regulations and all of the engagement is fake. So I'm not even sure if anybody I I think the reality is probably nobody knows anything about it. Not that they're against it but there's just a complete lack of awareness.

My general experience is that the boss generally fail if you ask them just why is this important or some you know some some open-ended or or even specific wh why is ISO 22 specific to anything what are you talking about look me in the eyes you bought you know you know stuff like that >> well I got an argument with this guy Ariel and I actually wrote out what all of it was and and he's sitting there trying to convince people that oh now the banks have lost all of the power like the banks have lost all of the power because they change the formatting of the information that goes with your financial transaction. That doesn't make any sense. Um, so I I don't know. I I I do want to

find out the source of whoever came up with this and uh and they're, you know, they're laughing their ass off somewhere. Is Fed Now the on and off ramp for the digital dollar? I mean, you know, Fed Now is not even I don't even know where Fed Now fits into this now because Fed Now, the the point of Fed Now was to allow real-time settlement uh between banks. And this was a building block for a CBDC. Once we then went into the stable coin realm, I don't even know how important Fed Now is since um basically the biggest stable coin issuers are private companies and not banks. That that may change, but right now, you know, banks haven't really

jumped in. You're nobody's getting a JP Morgan stable coin yet. Um, and so, you know, it's you got lootcoin, you got USD1, and I don't even know how that plays into into Fed Now. Fed Now kind of dropped off my radar once they went this new backdoor strategy. Not saying it's not important. It's just um, you know, >> you're not gonna be able to memorize the entire uh, genome, bro. >> Yeah. >> I mean, yeah. Fed now. I don't know. It's probably some kind of maybe maybe it could be used. Maybe it's just a version one of the Griff. I don't know. Maybe some kind of backup. I don't know. But >> well, I mean, it could have been a threat, right? It could have been a

threat to Mastercard and Visa. If you could settle with your bank in real time for a fraction of a penny, then you know, now there's a question of do you need Visa and Mastercard? And there was a whole bunch of like uh potential that could have happened. But but it kind of it kind of diminished and went away and now everybody's focusing on these stable coins. The Trump stable coin USD1 is I think the third largest now and um and now they're gonna and now they're gonna >> what >> is that is that specifically related to the Trump family? >> Yes. >> You got >> Oh, are you ready for this? This this will make you sick. I I'll do an episode on it. USD1. Um, Trump pardons CZ from Binance, the

the uh exchange, >> right? >> And then, uh, CZ uh, builds the USD1 stablecoin, which is the Trump family stable coin through World Liberty Financial. Then, >> then he raised two billion dollars for World Liberty Financial through uh, Abu Dhabi for the Trump family. Uh, but wait, there's more. the guy that runs uh USD1 for the Trump family, a guy named WhitF, is also the M East Envoy, >> part of the Board of Peace, and they're now trying to uh get USB1 adopted for the new technocratic state of Gaza. So, it will be the new currency for Gaza, which is a $12 billion reconstruction

project where they're they're going to displace 2.3 million Palestinians. Uh, I haven't t I haven't written about that yet. I actually just learned about this in the last couple of weeks, but and it's almost hard that like the level of corruption on this, you know, I I spent a lot of time on LootNick and I'm like, "Hey, Lutnick doesn't even hold a candle to Trump. It looks like Trump's coming in coming in strong. Trump Trump wasn't going to have enough of this loot nick. He He's got to get a piece of the the Lutnick pie. But the funny thing is the largest holder of USD1 is CZ. He owns like 80% of the supply. >> What? Oh, dude. There's There's got to be a way we can get this on the front

and back of a t-shirt. Okay. And this is incredible. This is like No, dude. All right. They got this new thing called Space Force. You know what it's for? is so they can see the goddamn corruption from Earth. I mean, it this is sick. This is just a sickness. This is beyond That's why it's going to work, man. Because people can't deal with large masses, large quantities, man. They're like, "Oh, it's just a little of corruption." No, dude. >> I think they put out the Epstein files to make this look look tame in comparison, and I'm not even sure it does. Um, but yeah, I I think that uh it is so massive and it's so blatant.

Listen, do you remember uh people Republicans and MAGA and everybody else, these people used to hate Tony Blair? You remember this? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Tony Blair is on the board of directors of the board of peace. >> Oh yeah, I knew that, dude. Yeah. No, every every swinging dictator's on that board, bro. >> Yeah. Yeah. No, they got the president of the World Bank on there. I mean, this is like this is it's hil it's it's hilarious. It's you would think it it would be like a I'm waiting for Leslie Nielsen to star in this slapstick comedy and it's not. We're stuck with you know um like this is actually happening. >> No, we need we need Sam Kenisonson in this mofo.

>> We do. Well, somebody needs to set the record set the record straight. But this is going on. Nobody's talking about that. My episode on Monday is going to be about this. And uh like to me, this is why the things going on in Iran. They're literally just going to monetize the reconstruction projects and they're going to make them these technocratic states. This this new Gaza technocratic states going to have six to eight AI smart cities. >> Right. >> Right. like we we were everybody was complaining about Klaus Schwab and the UN agenda and it but it's good when Trump does it and Witoff's involved and CZ and everybody and Howard Loopnik it's fine fair game there but uh but it's

actually happening unlike it was theoretical before but I don't know I just people don't have enough time to pay attention to it >> check it out man do you know what would be the ultimate mind pull you know rug pull the ultimate mind f. >> It's like if we if you know if CNN went in there, let's check out whether tan is still experiencing oil rain, right? So they they get their people on over there and everything and they they draw the curtain back and it's it's a 15 minutes. Tran is another 15 minute city. >> Yeah. with like with like a you know a

huge statue of ball and and and just that's crazy man. But no seriously like along along the lines what you were saying uh I I you know I definitely think that No, you were you Yeah, I definitely think that uh the whole thing's just just gone off the rails right now. It's like uh people got I mean like I don't know, man. My only idea is t-shirts, man. That's all I got. I mean, hey, if we can get a if we can get a t-shirt to work, then uh uh anything to try to get the message out. I don't know. I don't know. Dan, you got some ideas? We got some t-shirt ideas.

>> Yeah, maybe we can make a Howard Lutnik um 911 t-shirt. That is number one with a bullet, baby. Number one. >> He seems to be like the Waldo of every conspiracy. He's involved in >> 911. What what else? Um the Epste he's on the Epstein island. He um >> with with his >> with with his s eating grin everywhere. >> Yeah. Like like Waldo, you identify him by the strip by the stripes, right? Lutnik, you just you identify him in a in a on a t-shirt with the huge choppers just just squint squint smiling at you

saying with dollar signs in, you know, in the front. >> Nope. He couldn't make it to work on 911 because he had to drive his kid to school that day. >> Right. >> Even though his kid even though the school wasn't even open for another week. >> Right. Right. Somebody went back and checked that and said, "Actually, that year school did not start till a year till a week later." >> Well, we got to get in on this. I I just saw that Larry Silverstein bought the tallest building in LA. >> So So we gota I think if we sell those shirts in advance, um that could go over well. Those could be collector's items. Did he take an insurance policy out on it against terrorism and then maybe next week I

don't get hit with a drone? >> I I think that's the expectation. >> Just in time for the Iranian drones, baby. >> Put put a bullseye on it. >> I think this is actually true or it's really Well, it's it's great. It's great propaganda, but they're showing what the building is and everything else. And uh um he made $60 million of improvements to the building. And um no, I mean that would be that would be another good I like the idea of board of peace. B O R E D of peace. >> That could be a t-shirt. Um insurance policy payable and XRP. Yeah, somebody said no. insurance policy payable and

goldbacked XRP quantum financial system XRP only. Um, >> we need a website called S you can't make up news, you know. >> Yeah. >> Or you can't make this s up.ne. >> Well, yeah, you mentioned Zeno. There is a pred there's a prediction market on Zeno. I I feel like we've had some good ideas here that we should be putting on this uh on this private prediction market. >> Oh, hell yeah, dude. >> Um, you know, I haven't checked that out yet. I've been meaning to. Let me let me see if I can find it even. I think it's Where is it? Um, resources maybe.

I'm trying to remember. There's a lottery as well. Um, what the hell is the site? I'm like, it's not Xanism. It's not >> Zeno prediction. >> Yeah. I mean, yeah. I mean, how do you even like how would one even write about current events these days? >> I don't know. I don't know how you how you write about it. It's everything's fake. So, I mean, I guess just AI.

There's no there are no current events, >> right? Your outline would be if this is true, then maybe this, maybe this, possibly this, no way this at this time. You know, it's like, >> yeah, >> it's like trying to follow the war on on uh on X. I mean, there's so much fake reporting and deep fakes going on on both sides. It's uh >> Oh, man. Yeah. Yeah. You can't do it. I mean, you can't believe any how. All right. I mean, they already they already uh let Pandora out of the back box, man. I mean, with with the deep fakes on AI, clearly clearly this is a post-truth world, bro.

You know, like like I'm really in actuality, I think I'm not really I'm not seeing you guys in real time right now. I'm seeing what the AI wants, you know, me to see as representing you. And like that's what the AI does, man. They can handle like, you know, quadrillions of threads at the same time. >> You ever see that movie Idiocracy? >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> Hilarious. >> It's probably um what we're, you know, what we're going through right now. >> Yeah. Except I think like we're going to be the last generation with an IQ high enough to even recognize what might be happening. So,

>> I'm trying to find this is driving me nuts that I can't find. >> Assuming they don't just kill 90% of us, which which would be like six billion and then plug a plug a plug into the rest of us. >> I think the fertility rates have gone down tremendously. um you know with all the uh medical um you know vaccines that have been going around >> uh and um you know it's safe to say that the population is going down in every single country right now and um they're they're not going to start the draft kill us with war and then they want to kill us after that with techn accuracy.

So, we're probably at the same time. >> Yeah, it seems like we're ruled by a bunch of eugenicis. >> We should probably get together and operate a crematorium, guys. That's all I'm thinking. I don't know. Might buy us a couple of weeks. >> Yeah. All right. Here we go. Bets.io. So, here we go. We've got here's your your private prediction market. I haven't used this yet. Apparently, people are betting on >> ah >> basketball games. Um I don't know what the requirements are here. They've got sports. Oh, they've only got sports. Wait, they got they don't have any other

categories. We don't we don't have the ability to bet on things like, you know, how much money is Silverstein going to make on the LA building? >> I'm disappointed. I like I'm disappointed if this is only sports. Let me see if what's under other. >> Does it have a bespoke tab or anything? >> I'm not seeing bespoke. I best I've got is other which doesn't but but it all seems to be um all seems to be sport related. So uh >> does it have a zo tab? >> Just kidding. I don't want to call any fire down on our site here. >> No. Let's see. We got gift card. Well, we got a lottery. I don't know. We'll

have to look into that. It would be good to have good to have some cutting edge uh prediction markets on here. >> Hell yeah. Right. Put that in your Tik Tok, bro, or your uh your voice recorder. Yeah. >> We need a Zenozillionaire bespoke bet category. Yeah, >> there you go, man. I I'll have the AI fix that for you by Wednesday. >> Awesome. I would see we got uh Wow wanted to convert Den social to prediction market on Zeno. Each post is already a prediction. Yeah, that would that would be cool. Dwave can run XRP and Ethereum.

Eternity rates are down. T is down. for anyone who's dead back to 500,000 population. There you go. I am for IM is coming in with the black bill. We going to 500k. I mean, you know, I guess he's not wrong. It's not a great great overall situation. >> Well, what's what what's the black bill? >> He's saying uh fraternity rates are down. I'm guessing he meant fertility rates. Tea is down. war. They want us dead back to 500,000. >> Yeah, man. Yeah. Like like the life I'm thinking, you know, if anybody like really did the, you know, life expectancy uh

formula, it'd be it'd be pretty bad, man. I'm thinking like 69. >> Oh, here we go. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. We've got an Epstein arrest betting live. I guess I was in the wrong section here. Hold on. Hold the phone. >> I was wrong. Look at this. >> You gotta put that earl in the chat, bro. >> Yep. I'm doing that. Let's um >> Here we go. This is uh >> I'm gonna run that through AI, dude. I'm gonna have you a bespoke thing. Will Kimble Musk be arrested by December 31st, 2026? That's a 5050 bet right now.

That's that's bold. I guess nobody's jumping in on this. Will will Steve I guess nobody's nobody's taking this action. Uh Deepo Chopra, I guess these things are starting out at all as 5050. Um I guess they need a better way to There's got to be a better way to seat these things. Deepock did nothing but like spiritual sex and shit, right? >> I I have no idea. So, I keep hearing stat Oh, my fan kicked in again. >> Yeah, I was going to say something, but now I can't hear anything. I put it on mute when I wasn't talking. But Les Wexner, man, people are sleeping on this. We got we got to start pumping

this uh >> prediction market, >> bro. We need to Oh, man. >> We need that. Earl, what's the uh What's up with Elon's kid? Why is he going to jail? >> Elon's kid. Which one? The >> I thought you said Musk. The first one. >> Oh, no. No, it was uh his brother Kimble Musk. >> Oh, what's what's up with him, man? Oh, he's in the Epstein files and I guess uh he was introduced to a girlfriend or something uh one or more ladies through uh through Epstein. So, you know, >> I've heard that the the Google searches

for Epstein files have gone down tremendously since the war started. >> Say that again. Ever since this war started, uh the people on uh searching for, you know, what is the uh the Epstein files on Google apparently uh the searches have gone down like 60 70% like it's uh so they basically have changed the narrative from you know um everyone in the government being blackmailed for a foreign country to um you know war you know World War II you know. So, um, right. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. They Well, that's the thing, right? That's a lot of people were saying that that's, you know, I mean, some people are saying that, uh,

Trump started the war. Trump Trump attacked Iran so that he could def deflect from the, uh, Epstein situation. But I don't I don't think that's bullshit because they've already showed that they're not going to give up the information regardless of who's asking uh whatever. So, you're not going to, you know, that's why that's why you got to like go outside the lines and just like, dude, what I'm thinking, man, is you got like this uh, you know, like this, you know, alternative voting kind of thing where it's got to, you know, it's got it's got to be verifiable. Okay. People got to un

people got to know that uh what they told you was what what was what you recorded, right? So I mean what they sent you whatever. So they can verify the data easily and then you know you got to you got an alternate situation where like you can use that you can build upon that to where you can say well let's just vote on all kinds of shit like by by state referendum and just let's just take control the whole goddamn thing like in milliseconds but of course you get shut down from the internet in powers and feet. So, you know, how do you get around to that is the next question, which is where I was like trying to go with like the tour network and the the Bastian,

you know, PPE type deal, you know, but uh uh you know, at this point, sure, man. I can, you know, I I feel like, you know, you know, there's only like two things I'm really interested in doing right now, which is like uh spending my because I got laid off a year ago, so you know, I'm 63. So, you know, there's only only two things I'm really interested right now. You know, there's like uh Frisbee golf help my veterans building my uh building veterans uh you know farming thing which is like every other weekend and like maybe like taking a taking a

you know a Hail Mary at something that might work but but then again you know I'd like you know it's like you know >> I'd like to Edward Snowden run for president. >> Yeah. Against JD Vance >> from Russia. That'd be awesome, bro. That'd be awesome. I like that. I like that. I mean, that could happen, dude. With this platform. With this platform, dude. That could happen. We can demand it. We could we because dude lot of things people don't know about is like at least on a local level if if a law if

a law says people can't be named Aaron uh you can you can just you can just say that anyone charged with that law I mean everybody in anybody in violation of that law anybody not named Aaron if they get a $250 fine they can take it to trial and try and it's called jury nullification, man. The jury would just say, "No, man. We don't believe that's a just law. That's a bullshit law." And you know, see, we could just break it down to that in like small localities and and you know, we can like run our own little thief feed them for at least give it a shot. I don't know. >> I'm seeing here breaking. The US Senate

just voted to ban a Federal Reserve CBDC until 2030. Oh my god. So, they're watching it. They're going to do one in 2030. Like the the the joke of this, it's not even a permanent ban. They're going to ban it until 2030. And people are celebrating this. And this idiot Tim Scott, who has got to be the dumbest in the Senate, is presiding over this. Oh, I I I don't even want to read the I'll read the details of the bill and then and then I'm sure we'll find Well, yeah, they can't launch it, but they can work on it, right? It's kind of like I I'm sure this is going to be the the worst case. >> Is Tim Scott doing an Israeli dance in the middle of Congress and stuff or what?

>> I I you know, I don't know. I don't know what he's doing. He's flapping his gums. He's excited. >> He's got to be so good. >> That's That's unbelievable. I so >> no viagra for that guy tonight, let me tell you. >> No, no, he's as excited as as you know Lindsey Graham about the the latest bombing in Iran. >> It's Christmas for the for the neocons and the central bankers. Um I mean uh Jim Scott, isn't he Virginia? >> No, I think he's South Carolina. Oh, that's even worse. Holy South Carolina, they just I mean,

I can deal with North Carolina. They don't make a point to sound like a hick. South Carolina takes pride >> and like >> you there there's a lot there are a lot of you drive through South Carolina and there are a lot of like repent signs and just you know >> Yeah. Yeah. >> You know it's pretty hardcore religious messaging that you're a shitty person as you're driving by the billboard. I mean, I just remember constantly seeing a barrage of these things, but uh >> Well, I heard them walk around with snakes on their shoulders.

>> I I don't know. We didn't stop. We didn't stop by, but I wouldn't I wouldn't be surprised. It was weird. We drove my wife and I drove from uh from New Hampshire to Dallas, Texas, and that that was that was one one interesting drive. You you learn about a lot about what's going on with the decaying of of the country based on the percentage of uh personal injury lawyer advertising billboards. Like you know, you know you're in a bad place. You could actually kind of almost tell what the crime rate and the and the uh welfare rate is by that metric alone. Ah, >> so that was it was pretty uh >> I'm guessing I'm guess I'm guessing man they were all they all said call Bob Aar

>> maybe not. >> So anyway good >> they're not even American lawyers on these billboards man. >> No no no they're not. But I mean this is this is the meal ticket. This is this is personal injury is is a retirement strategy now, >> right? No, you go through Kentucky, they say call Bob Azar to get your money back we just stole through uh what do they call that when the cops just take your money, man. Uh >> civil asset forfeite. >> Yeah, call civil asset forfeite Bob Aar. I mean, that's that's like every billboard I ever saw with Bob Azar.

Yeah. No, that's a hell of a cruise, bro. New Hampshire down to uh Houston or whatever. Dallas. What? >> Yeah. Down to Dallas. It was cold. It was like right near Thanksgiving and uh Yeah, the trip there and back was uh that was something. I don't know if I'd drive that again, >> dude. I heard Dallas was a ghost town. Um, I wouldn't say it was a ghost town, but it certainly is. It is not as dense as you might think, >> right? >> Very little like waning activity. >> Yeah, very very much very much not a bustling bustling place,

but um >> yeah, I forgot where I heard that from. I think it was like 30 von or something. >> Hey, what kind of material were the passports uh made out of in 911? Cuz everything else was melting for at least weeks. Um steel got turned into molten, but those passports were in perfect shape. They knew exactly who did it in a half an hour. They were made out of uh who's that like who's a real old lady with serious plastic plastic? >> Joan Rivers. >> They were made out of Joan Rivers cheeks, I think. >> Yeah.

>> They should have made the plane out of that stuff. >> Oh yeah. >> Hell yeah, bro. >> If the people in Gaza were smart, they should have just built their buildings out of those things. Right. Right. >> Well, that's okay because Jared Kushner is going to do that. So, >> oh boy, it's gonna be casinos there. >> Yeah. I I don't know. This whole thing is disgusting. I'm looking forward to uh too much switch for me. I'm out. Okay. I don't know what that what that means, but um any of that um yeah, I know watching the watching the news here is not good. Uh thank you. Thank you, Sylvia. I guess people are

people are getting ready. It's been about three hours and 40 minutes here, so it's probably probably getting to be time to wrap it up. >> All right, have a good night, guys. >> All right, >> good night. Well, again, reminder, we'll be back uh Monday at 6 PM where we talk about the Board of Peace. So, get ready for get ready to be completely infuriated. Uh next level 6 PM Monday, Eastern time. >> Eastern time. There we go. All right. >> All right, guys. Thanks for uh thanks for hopping on. I'm gonna play a couple songs on the way out as normal. Play hijacking Bitcoin and I'll play my campaign song. So, uh have a good one. Sounds good. >> Soldier freedom.

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